The Dangerous Game of Smearing a Sitting President of the Most Powerful Country in the World

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Sooooooo much of Trumps criticism is underserved

You got that shit right! LOL

 

[LoneLaugher]

You don’t blame Nixon for Nixon?

I think Nixon got a bad rap. He really didn't do anything that all of his predecessors did with impunity. He just had the bad luck to do them with the country in a very cranky mood.

The ironic thing that liberals should consider is that Nixon wasn't such a bad guy. He gave us OSHA, the EPA, ended Vietnam, opened relations with China. He was a Republican, but he wasn't a nut.

He was a fucking nut.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Sooooooo much of Trumps criticism is underserved

You got that shit right! LOL

None of it is undeserved.

 

[LoneLaugher]

They can be both

A) That remains to be seen and B) something is no longer an allegation once it's confirmed or disproved.
So, no, they can't.

Trump has not disproved any of the charges
Until that time, he is presumed guilty

Why stop there? You're going to proclaim him guilty no matter what's proven.

In a traditional Democracy, Trump would be presumed innocent

However, voters decided on a Trumpian Democracy in 2016 where wild accusations can be made and the burden of proof shifts to the accused

MAGA Baby!

Nah, that's not where you're at. You've gone way down the line and simply proclaim guilt, no matter what evidence shows you're wrong.

Why did Trump fire Comey?

 

[hadit]

A) That remains to be seen and B) something is no longer an allegation once it's confirmed or disproved.
So, no, they can't.

Trump has not disproved any of the charges
Until that time, he is presumed guilty

Why stop there? You're going to proclaim him guilty no matter what's proven.

In a traditional Democracy, Trump would be presumed innocent

However, voters decided on a Trumpian Democracy in 2016 where wild accusations can be made and the burden of proof shifts to the accused

MAGA Baby!

Nah, that's not where you're at. You've gone way down the line and simply proclaim guilt, no matter what evidence shows you're wrong.

Why did Trump fire Comey?

Interesting question. What does it have to do with the topic in my post?

 

[BWK]

Well President Trumps meeting with the Norks went belly up.

No deal: Trump-Kim summit ends abruptly

In the eyes of the world, Trump is being undermined by his own countrymen with calls for impeachment, fake resolutions against his declarations of Emergency that h ave zero chance of actually sticking, and an opposition party that would rather see Americans lose in every negotiation and everything else included rather than to let the President have a single win.

Why should anyone in the world take such a Chief Executive seriously when he cannot achieve the symbolic respect of his own people?

Gone is the ability to talk the Norks into giving up their nukes for concessions, gone is the ability to help guide India and Pakistan away from nuclear war, gone is the ability to negotiate better trade deals for US workers all because Nancy Piglosi and Chucky Schmuker think this is what is required to win in 2020.

This is simply disgusting, disloyal and reckless.

Mike Cohen is a brazen liar, who has been repeatedly caught in perjury and is going to prison for perjury and he has even been disbarred. And the Democrats have turned over the operations of Congress to him and his lawyer Lanny Davis, to try and embarrass Trump with nothing but unsupported claims and unwarranted allegations of wrong doing by a known liar who is obviously wanting to plea deal with his little chip of testimony of betrayal of client privilege.

I have never felt so embarrassed for my country my whole life than I did yesterday with the Democrat Party self immolating our national interests and the interests of her people so they can say once again to the whole planet 'ORANGE MAN BAD!' with ZERO political consequences what so ever, only international consequences as we have seen.

In the meantime India and Pakistan may stumble into nuclear war because these Dimocrats are undermining the probably single man on Earth who can carrot and stick them into peace; and that is our duly elected sitting President, Donald J Trump.

Dimocrats, you are disgusting, you are traitorous, and you are a bunch of fools playing with consequences you cannot fathom all for your political horse shit.

Shame, shame, shame on you, you bloody imbeciles. The sooner you are drubbed into the ash heap of history the better it will be for Mankind.

The Democrats nailed the truth and the evidence. The fact that you can't deal with that, tells us you are a traitor to your country and the Constitution.

 

[Moonglow]

What you claim is law is no law...the bill died in committee..

That didn't stop you from making that erroneous "two doctors" claim did it?
The bill was just as dead when you made your faulty claim.

Do you need a bucket to collect the tears?

 

[Moonglow]

But, the interesting thing is, not even the finest of Trumpletons still maintain his (factual) innocence. They are now into, "but he wasn't convicted", so the allegations aren't proven before a court of law. Since under DoJ guidelines the president can't be indicted, much less convicted, that's their way to express they patently don't care about the president's criminality. If he makes the trains run on time, whatever criminality there may be - on 5th Avenue, or elsewhere - is of no import to them.

Reminds me of the King Obama reign when he could get away with illegality after illegality and none of his cheer leading supporters seemed to give a damn!
What's that? Give an example you say? Fine. How about Barry misusing and diverting TARP funds to take over GM (an illegality)? The Auto Bailout and the Rule of Law

That's how partisanship works, isn't it?
And now you folks mewl, whimper and whine now that the shoe is on the other foot. It's embarrassing, frankly.

No money from taxpayers should ever be used to support rich capitalist corporations...

 

[LoneLaugher]

Trump has not disproved any of the charges
Until that time, he is presumed guilty

Why stop there? You're going to proclaim him guilty no matter what's proven.

In a traditional Democracy, Trump would be presumed innocent

However, voters decided on a Trumpian Democracy in 2016 where wild accusations can be made and the burden of proof shifts to the accused

MAGA Baby!

Nah, that's not where you're at. You've gone way down the line and simply proclaim guilt, no matter what evidence shows you're wrong.

Why did Trump fire Comey?

Interesting question. What does it have to do with the topic in my post?

I want to know if you think the president is guilty of obstructing justice. You know, since he admitted to it.

 

[hadit]

Why stop there? You're going to proclaim him guilty no matter what's proven.

In a traditional Democracy, Trump would be presumed innocent

However, voters decided on a Trumpian Democracy in 2016 where wild accusations can be made and the burden of proof shifts to the accused

MAGA Baby!

Nah, that's not where you're at. You've gone way down the line and simply proclaim guilt, no matter what evidence shows you're wrong.

Why did Trump fire Comey?

Interesting question. What does it have to do with the topic in my post?

I want to know if you think the president is guilty of obstructing justice. You know, since he admitted to it.

Like I said, not related.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Trump should achieve the symbolic respect of his own people for ridiculing handicapped people and trashing our POWs and Gold star families. You don`t even realize how fucked up you are do you?

That is a lie and you know it.

Get over your hurt ass feelings and grow the hell up why dont you?

 

[JoeB131]

/—-/,Maybe If Trump were to put his feet up on the Oval Office desk you’d like him like Obozo.

Wow... so let's see... Putting your feet up on the desk...


vs.

Calling a free press, "The enemy of the people", mocking the disabled, throwing kids into concentration camps, declaring a illegal "National Emergency" to try to get a wall Congress told you that you couldn't have.

Yup, what that uppity Negro did was far less, disrespecting furniture.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/—-/,Maybe If Trump were to put his feet up on the Oval Office desk you’d like him like Obozo.

Wow... so let's see... Putting your feet up on the desk...


vs.

Calling a free press, "The enemy of the people", mocking the disabled, throwing kids into concentration camps, declaring a illegal "National Emergency" to try to get a wall Congress told you that you couldn't have.

Yup, what that uppity Negro did was far less, disrespecting furniture.

/——-/ The press is the enemy. Even Fox is starting to lean left. And the border is an emergency. The rest of your rant is BS.

 

[Vastator]

Well President Trumps meeting with the Norks went belly up.

No deal: Trump-Kim summit ends abruptly

In the eyes of the world, Trump is being undermined by his own countrymen with calls for impeachment, fake resolutions against his declarations of Emergency that h ave zero chance of actually sticking, and an opposition party that would rather see Americans lose in every negotiation and everything else included rather than to let the President have a single win.

Why should anyone in the world take such a Chief Executive seriously when he cannot achieve the symbolic respect of his own people?

Gone is the ability to talk the Norks into giving up their nukes for concessions, gone is the ability to help guide India and Pakistan away from nuclear war, gone is the ability to negotiate better trade deals for US workers all because Nancy Piglosi and Chucky Schmuker think this is what is required to win in 2020.

This is simply disgusting, disloyal and reckless.

Mike Cohen is a brazen liar, who has been repeatedly caught in perjury and is going to prison for perjury and he has even been disbarred. And the Democrats have turned over the operations of Congress to him and his lawyer Lanny Davis, to try and embarrass Trump with nothing but unsupported claims and unwarranted allegations of wrong doing by a known liar who is obviously wanting to plea deal with his little chip of testimony of betrayal of client privilege.

I have never felt so embarrassed for my country my whole life than I did yesterday with the Democrat Party self immolating our national interests and the interests of her people so they can say once again to the whole planet 'ORANGE MAN BAD!' with ZERO political consequences what so ever, only international consequences as we have seen.

In the meantime India and Pakistan may stumble into nuclear war because these Dimocrats are undermining the probably single man on Earth who can carrot and stick them into peace; and that is our duly elected sitting President, Donald J Trump.

Dimocrats, you are disgusting, you are traitorous, and you are a bunch of fools playing with consequences you cannot fathom all for your political horse shit.

Shame, shame, shame on you, you bloody imbeciles. The sooner you are drubbed into the ash heap of history the better it will be for Mankind.

And for 8 years Trump was claiming that the sitting President of the United States was not even born in this nation. Let me guess...that was principled, and well-reasoned opposition, right?

Yeah, considering that, that very President is on record claiming such...

 

[JoeB131]

/——-/ The press is the enemy. Even Fox is starting to lean left. And the border is an emergency. The rest of your rant is BS.

Holy Shit, even Fox News is "the enemy of the people' now?

Yes, your movement truly hasn't lost it's mind.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/——-/ The press is the enemy. Even Fox is starting to lean left. And the border is an emergency. The rest of your rant is BS.

Holy Shit, even Fox News is "the enemy of the people' now?

Yes, your movement truly hasn't lost it's mind.

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/——/ Work on your reading comprehension. The media is the enemy AND Fox is turning left. Is Fox News (Officially) Moving to the Political Left? » Politichicks.com

 

[rightwinger]

In a traditional Democracy, Trump would be presumed innocent

However, voters decided on a Trumpian Democracy in 2016 where wild accusations can be made and the burden of proof shifts to the accused

MAGA Baby!

I guess, you are just riling up the rubes, but still...

Legally speaking, Trump is presumed innocent. Insofar, the character of U.S. democracy hasn't changed.

Politically speaking, he's looking as corrupt as a Mob boss, with whatever organization he headed - campaign, transition, Trump Org., Trump foundation, Trump University - all under investigation.

But, the interesting thing is, not even the finest of Trumpletons still maintain his (factual) innocence. They are now into, "but he wasn't convicted", so the allegations aren't proven before a court of law. Since under DoJ guidelines the president can't be indicted, much less convicted, that's their way to express they patently don't care about the president's criminality. If he makes the trains run on time, whatever criminality there may be - on 5th Avenue, or elsewhere - is of no import to them.

You are given a presumption of innocence in a court of law

Everywhere else, you are subject to the court of public opinion

In Trumps case......Guilty

 

[candycorn]

Well President Trumps meeting with the Norks went belly up.

No deal: Trump-Kim summit ends abruptly

In the eyes of the world, Trump is being undermined by his own countrymen with calls for impeachment, fake resolutions against his declarations of Emergency that h ave zero chance of actually sticking, and an opposition party that would rather see Americans lose in every negotiation and everything else included rather than to let the President have a single win.

Why should anyone in the world take such a Chief Executive seriously when he cannot achieve the symbolic respect of his own people?

Gone is the ability to talk the Norks into giving up their nukes for concessions, gone is the ability to help guide India and Pakistan away from nuclear war, gone is the ability to negotiate better trade deals for US workers all because Nancy Piglosi and Chucky Schmuker think this is what is required to win in 2020.

This is simply disgusting, disloyal and reckless.

Mike Cohen is a brazen liar, who has been repeatedly caught in perjury and is going to prison for perjury and he has even been disbarred. And the Democrats have turned over the operations of Congress to him and his lawyer Lanny Davis, to try and embarrass Trump with nothing but unsupported claims and unwarranted allegations of wrong doing by a known liar who is obviously wanting to plea deal with his little chip of testimony of betrayal of client privilege.

I have never felt so embarrassed for my country my whole life than I did yesterday with the Democrat Party self immolating our national interests and the interests of her people so they can say once again to the whole planet 'ORANGE MAN BAD!' with ZERO political consequences what so ever, only international consequences as we have seen.

In the meantime India and Pakistan may stumble into nuclear war because these Dimocrats are undermining the probably single man on Earth who can carrot and stick them into peace; and that is our duly elected sitting President, Donald J Trump.

Dimocrats, you are disgusting, you are traitorous, and you are a bunch of fools playing with consequences you cannot fathom all for your political horse shit.

Shame, shame, shame on you, you bloody imbeciles. The sooner you are drubbed into the ash heap of history the better it will be for Mankind.

And for 8 years Trump was claiming that the sitting President of the United States was not even born in this nation. Let me guess...that was principled, and well-reasoned opposition, right?

Yeah, considering that, that very President is on record claiming such...

Again, total bullshit.

 

[rightwinger]

But, the interesting thing is, not even the finest of Trumpletons still maintain his (factual) innocence. They are now into, "but he wasn't convicted", so the allegations aren't proven before a court of law. Since under DoJ guidelines the president can't be indicted, much less convicted, that's their way to express they patently don't care about the president's criminality. If he makes the trains run on time, whatever criminality there may be - on 5th Avenue, or elsewhere - is of no import to them.

Reminds me of the King Obama reign when he could get away with illegality after illegality and none of his cheer leading supporters seemed to give a damn!
What's that? Give an example you say? Fine. How about Barry misusing and diverting TARP funds to take over GM (an illegality)? The Auto Bailout and the Rule of Law

That's how partisanship works, isn't it?
And now you folks mewl, whimper and whine now that the shoe is on the other foot. It's embarrassing, frankly.

The thing with rule of law, you actually have to use the law....opinions on Fox News are not a supstitute

 

[rightwinger]

They can be both

A) That remains to be seen and B) something is no longer an allegation once it's confirmed or disproved.
So, no, they can't.

Trump has not disproved any of the charges
Until that time, he is presumed guilty

Why stop there? You're going to proclaim him guilty no matter what's proven.

If Trump goes before Congress and swears under oath we can start to believe him