The Dangers of Corporations Controlling National Secrets

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The Dangers of Corporations Controlling National Secrets

Corporations owe no loyalty to nations.

They've more than proven that to us for the last century or so.

 

[Seawytch]

I have a problem with our Nation's secrets being controlled by people who don't swear an oath and are beholden only to the bottom line.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

There's no difference between corporations and government today.

Until you support having 8000-12000 members in the House of Reps and repealing the 17th Amendment, it will always be this way.

 

[boilermaker55]

You are really on e ill-informed fool to try and spread that lie.
But while those around you that can pass legislation to put more of the money others helped some places make money into their pocket; the more they like children such as yourself believing they are the greatest thing to happen to this country.
They, corporations, sure seem to know when and where to exploit others but then, its their right.

You see what people like TemplarKormac don't quite get is that corporations own this country. They try to pretend this is the best place ever for free enterprise but look at some of the legislation passed over the last few decades.
It is all about corporate welfare, which the right thinks does not exist.
But they sure believe in the Old Jewish book of fairy tales.
One day they will know how they are living in a plutocratic society.

Corporate welfare is all the result of legislation supported by the left, like ethanol mandates.

 

[boilermaker55]

Every time I read a post of yours I shake my head and think, no wonder corporations love this country.

I'm pretty clear on the Fourth Amendment and its significance to our civil rights:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[1]"

I wonder if you are equally aware it is private for-profit corporations who are responsible for the "12 MAJOR scandals and revelations this week regarding (our) IMMEDIATE civil rights"?

Wrong, the government is responsible. Government is the institution violating our rights, not corporations.

 

[dilloduck]

There's no difference between corporations and government today.

Until you support having 8000-12000 members in the House of Reps and repealing the 17th Amendment, it will always be this way.

We have a Capitalist economy. What regulations would you place on corporations to fix anything ?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Why do I even bother coming to your OPs anymore? You post crap from Alternet and NPR. You liberals look for a way to inject anti-Corporatism into everything. Waste of my time.

Because we have no choice but to come and dismantle these well weaved lies, otherwise he'll suck others into the web.

 

[Contumacious]

The privatized national security apparatus isn’t just wasteful—it’s contrary to the founding principles of our democratic republic.

Only in Retardoland, are corporations more dangerous than the federal government

ONLY in Retardoland Bill Gates drones its enemies

ONLY in Retardoland is Bill Gates authorized to send "enemy noncombatants" to Gitmo

ONLY in Retardoland is Bill Gates authorized to send the powerful domestic

paramilitary to terminate citizens with extreme prejudice.

ONLY in Retardoland is Microsoft' s DOJ permitted to bring about a sham indictment , force the defendant to sell his home in order to defend himself before a SELF IMMUNIZED "judge" who will ignore his defenses , rule that the Constitution does not apply and send him to the slammer for a gazillion years.

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[The2ndAmendment]

The privatized national security apparatus isn’t just wasteful—it’s contrary to the founding principles of our democratic republic.

Only in Retardoland, are corporations more dangerous than the federal government

ONLY in Retardoland Bill Gates drones its enemies

ONLY in Retardoland is Bill Gates authorized to send "enemy noncombatants" to Gitmo

ONLY in Retardoland is Bill Gates authorized to send the powerful domestic

paramilitary to terminate citizens with extreme prejudice.

ONLY in Retardoland is Microsoft' s DOJ permitted to bring about a sham indictment , force the defendant to sell his home in order to defend himself before a SELF IMMUNIZED "judge" who will ignore his defenses , rule that the Constitution does not apply and send him to the slammer for a gazillion years.

.

Only in fantasy land, whihc includes Retardo-land, does one think that the federal government is a separate entity from the corporate oligarchy. You're simply in a higher subset of Moron land.

I bet you get a hard-on from the Federal Reserve and suck Rothschild penis daily.

 

[georgephillip]

Agreed. I'm 66 - so I'll never live to see the change - if it ever changes.

I will turn 66 by Labor Day, and we both could live long enough to see hundreds of Republicans AND Democrats FLUSHED from the US Congress in a single news cycle in November of 2014. The tool we are communicating with right now makes that possible; all that's lacking is the will.

It isn't going to happen. Get used to it.[/QUOTE]
Is that supposed to mean you favor fascism over what currently passes for a democracy in the US?

"Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in mid-20th century Europe. Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community,[3][4] relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles.[5]

"Hostile to liberal democracy, socialism, and communism, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism, ethnocentrism, and militarism.

"Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation[3][6][7][8] and asserts that nations and races deemed superior should obtain living space by displacing ones deemed weak or inferior."

Why are weak patriots always seeking strong leaders?

Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

I think it's guaranteed the trend will continue throughout all of our lives as long as we continue "choosing" our Representatives and Senators on the basis of Democrat or Republican. There is a multitude of third party candidates ranging from far right to lefty socialists already appearing on most ballots, and should millions of US voters decide to FLUSH hundreds of incumbents from DC in a single news cycle, Hope and Change won't be just an advertising slogan.

There aren't many people in this country willing to vote for the Communist party, so your dream will never come to pass.

Stop being afraid of Change; it's the only Constant.

"Largest ( [US]voter registration over 75,000)...
Libertarian Party - Libertarianism, laissez-faire, pro-civil rights, anti-war
Green Party - Green politics, eco-socialism, progressivism
Constitution Party - Social conservatism, religious right, paleoconservatism"

Imagine tens of millions of regular and first time voters choosing from the above three parties during congressional midterms and the next White House showdown, instead of throwing their votes away on Wall Street.

Then speculate on the real choice Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul would offer for president.

Third party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[flacaltenn]

I think it's guaranteed the trend will continue throughout all of our lives as long as we continue "choosing" our Representatives and Senators on the basis of Democrat or Republican. There is a multitude of third party candidates ranging from far right to lefty socialists already appearing on most ballots, and should millions of US voters decide to FLUSH hundreds of incumbents from DC in a single news cycle, Hope and Change won't be just an advertising slogan.

There aren't many people in this country willing to vote for the Communist party, so your dream will never come to pass.

Stop being afraid of Change; it's the only Constant.

"Largest ( [US]voter registration over 75,000)...
Libertarian Party - Libertarianism, laissez-faire, pro-civil rights, anti-war
Green Party - Green politics, eco-socialism, progressivism
Constitution Party - Social conservatism, religious right, paleoconservatism"

Imagine tens of millions of regular and first time voters choosing from the above three parties during congressional midterms and the next White House showdown, instead of throwing their votes away on Wall Street.

Then speculate on the real choice Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul would offer for president.

Third party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

U doin anything to promote ballot and debate access? Because even tho you're a Prog mental midget and you tend to hijack your own threads, and abandons almost every OP you start --- you have a great concept there.

Would LOVE to defeat your 3rd party RESOUNDINGLY at the polls with mine..

 

[georgephillip]

Evil Conservative Cretin:

Several third party options for senators and representatives regularly appear on my ballot.
How does that compare to yours?
I'm less concerned with which third party wins a plurality at the polls than I am with FLUSHING hundreds of Republicans AND Democrats from DC in a single news cycle.

PS, you'll get the same RESOUNDING victory at the polls today that you got at Shiloh in 1862.

 

[Seawytch]

I think it's guaranteed the trend will continue throughout all of our lives as long as we continue "choosing" our Representatives and Senators on the basis of Democrat or Republican. There is a multitude of third party candidates ranging from far right to lefty socialists already appearing on most ballots, and should millions of US voters decide to FLUSH hundreds of incumbents from DC in a single news cycle, Hope and Change won't be just an advertising slogan.

There aren't many people in this country willing to vote for the Communist party, so your dream will never come to pass.

Stop being afraid of Change; it's the only Constant.

"Largest ( [US]voter registration over 75,000)...
Libertarian Party - Libertarianism, laissez-faire, pro-civil rights, anti-war
Green Party - Green politics, eco-socialism, progressivism
Constitution Party - Social conservatism, religious right, paleoconservatism"

Imagine tens of millions of regular and first time voters choosing from the above three parties during congressional midterms and the next White House showdown, instead of throwing their votes away on Wall Street.

Then speculate on the real choice Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul would offer for president.

Third party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As long as it takes big money to run for office, those parties are nothing but a seldom checked box on a registration form. You gotta have corporate cash to get elected and the Daddy Warbucks of the world aren't throwing cash at any of 'em.

 

[georgephillip]

There aren't many people in this country willing to vote for the Communist party, so your dream will never come to pass.

Stop being afraid of Change; it's the only Constant.

"Largest ( [US]voter registration over 75,000)...
Libertarian Party - Libertarianism, laissez-faire, pro-civil rights, anti-war
Green Party - Green politics, eco-socialism, progressivism
Constitution Party - Social conservatism, religious right, paleoconservatism"

Imagine tens of millions of regular and first time voters choosing from the above three parties during congressional midterms and the next White House showdown, instead of throwing their votes away on Wall Street.

Then speculate on the real choice Elizabeth Warren and Rand Paul would offer for president.

Third party (United States) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As long as it takes big money to run for office, those parties are nothing but a seldom checked box on a registration form. You gotta have corporate cash to get elected and the Daddy Warbucks of the world aren't throwing cash at any of 'em.

You can't remove the corporate cash and influence from US politics by "choosing" between Democrat OR Republican in the voting booth! There are millions of (mostly) political illiterates who (for mostly the wrong reasons) regularly choose to refrain from voting. Many of those millions are wired in to social media on a daily basis; they are susceptible to an Event Election, where hundreds of incumbents (Rs and Ds alike) would be FLUSHED from the DC toilet in a single news cycle. Brand it as Internet Reformation Politics:

"...invented the term 'Internet Reformation' to brilliantly describe the end of top-down elite control over information flow, history, politics and current events. This control mechanism was used for centuries by the state and behind-the-scenes power elites to control populations and political jurisdictions but now advances in electronic communications, alternative news and social media are threatening their world order..."