Zone1 The Economist/YouGov Poll on Belief in the Holocaust

[Grau]

Except that the Holocaust is probably the best documented genocide in history, mostly thanks to the meticulous way the Germans documented it.

And when was Holocaust-denial criminalized, exactly? Sadly, deniers are allowed to spew their nonsense for years. The only difference now is that the Internet can amplify any kind of crazy to respectability.

No, the Holocaust is the most heavily hyped and crassly exploited tragedy due to Hollywood's participation in Holocaust propaganda and the political influence around the world of the international, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry.

How can the Holocaust qualify as a true genocide when Jews were among the Nazi Party leadership and 150,000 Jews served in Germany's WW 2 military?

There is absolutely no evidence that there was ever a genocidal German Agenda to kill all of Europe's Jews. I've read the Wannsee Minutes and related documents in the original German and the German Zionist Federation worked closely with Germany's National Socialists to transfer Jews to Palestine under the Haavara Agreement.
At the Evian Conference, the German Zionist Federation blocked the ability for Jews to go anywhere but Palestine but the war made that impossible.

For example:
“If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”

Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

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Finally, there are written orders from Stalin for mass murder and their are written orders from Eisenhower for the mass murder of nearly one million German POWs and civilians but no written order from Hitler for the killing of Germany's Jews:

“To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

- Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190

George Orwell who was intimately familiar with propaganda wrote:


"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."

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[JoeB131]

A nationwide survey released Wednesday shows a "worrying lack of basic Holocaust knowledge" among adults under 40, including over 1 in 10 respondents who did not recall ever having heard the word "Holocaust" before.

The survey, touted as the first 50-state survey of Holocaust knowledge among millennials and Generation Z, showed that many respondents were unclear about the basic facts of the genocide. Sixty-three percent of those surveyed did not know that 6 million Jews were murdered in the Holocaust, and over half of those thought the death toll was fewer than 2 million. Over 40,000 concentration camps and ghettos were established during World War II, but nearly half of U.S. respondents could not name a single one.

And how many of them know about the Armenian Genocide, the Rape of Nanking, the Great Leap Forward, the Killing Fields of Cambodia, the Ukrainian Holmador, or the abuses in the Belgian Congo? The Holocaust isn't the worst genocide that happened, just the best documented and the one that gets tons of media portrayals.

And you kind of fall for it yourself. You talk about the six million Jews who were killed but ignore the six million Slavs, Roma, disabled, gay, and other non-Jews who were sent to the camps and murdered.

Heck, I've only seen one movie on The Killing Fields or the Rape of Nanking, and they were both narratively told from the perspective of white people who weren't affected.

"The most important lesson is that we can't lose any more time," said Greg Schneider, executive vice president of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany, which commissioned the study. "If we let these trends continue for another generation, the crucial lessons from this terrible part of history could be lost."

The findings raise concerns not just about Holocaust ignorance, but also about Holocaust denial. Just 90 percent of respondents said they believed that the Holocaust happened. Seven percent were not sure, and 3 percent denied that it happened. One of the most disturbing revelations, the survey noted, is that 11 percent of respondents believe Jews caused the Holocaust. The number climbs to 19 percent in New York, the state with the largest Jewish population.

Okay, only 3% of people outright denying it happened just doesn't sound like a bad number. I do find the victim-blaming number a bit odd. (We do tend to whitewash all the stuff Jewish people did during the Weimar period to earn the ire of their fellow Germans.)

 

[JoeB131]

No, the Holocaust is the most heavily hyped and crassly exploited tragedy due to Hollywood's participation in Holocaust propaganda and the political influence around the world of the international, multi billion dollar Holocaust Industry.

How can the Holocaust qualify as a true genocide when Jews were among the Nazi Party leadership and 150,000 Jews served in Germany's WW 2 military?

Oh, I would agree that the Jews run Hollywood, and of course, they are going to tell stories that are interesting to them. If the Chinese were running Hollywood, we'd know a lot more about what a bunch of rat bastards the Japanese were during World War II. Or maybe we wouldn't, because films with non-white leads don't tend to do very well.

There is absolutely no evidence that there was ever a genocidal German Agenda to kill all of Europe's Jews. I've read the Wannsee Minutes and related documents in the original German and the German Zionist Federation worked closely with Germany's National Socialists to transfer Jews to Palestine under the Haavara Agreement.
At the Evian Conference, the German Zionist Federation blocked the ability for Jews to go anywhere but Palestine but the war made that impossible.

Oh, I agree, the Allies didn't do nearly enough to stop the Holocaust from happening. Ideal world, the Allies would have marched into Germany when Hitler violated the Versailles Treaty and remilitarized the Rhineland. (Which, for those playing at home, is where my Grandparents came from.) The Nazis would have quickly lost the war, and Hitler would have been deposed from Power.

But, um, yeah, the fact they killed 6 million Jews is well documented.

 

[Grau]

Oh, I would agree that the Jews run Hollywood, and of course, they are going to tell stories that are interesting to them. If the Chinese were running Hollywood, we'd know a lot more about what a bunch of rat bastards the Japanese were during World War II. Or maybe we wouldn't, because films with non-white leads don't tend to do very well.



Oh, I agree, the Allies didn't do nearly enough to stop the Holocaust from happening. Ideal world, the Allies would have marched into Germany when Hitler violated the Versailles Treaty and remilitarized the Rhineland. (Which, for those playing at home, is where my Grandparents came from.) The Nazis would have quickly lost the war, and Hitler would have been deposed from Power.

But, um, yeah, the fact they killed 6 million Jews is well documented.

First, there are over 167 references to "6 million Jews" either being killed, starving or in peril from 1900 to 1945. (1) Some claims were made even before the 2nd World War ended.

Do you believe all of them?

Next, the reason that the Allies didn't do anything about the Holocaust is because there was no genocidal German agenda.

The reason you haven't read anything about intercepted, secret German radio communications is that they contradict the standard Holocaust narrative. (2)

You still haven't explained how there could have been a genuine genocide against all of Germany's Jews if Jews were allowed to be high ranking Nazi Party members and German military Generals.

Finally, most people around the world know that the Holocaust story is grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited. Only about 1/3 of the people who know about the Holocaust believe the whole story.(3) Fortunately, the younger generations have the critical thinking skills to reject the impossible claims of the fraudulent Holocaust Industry.


(1) "167 newspaper and other references to "Six Million Jews" 1900-1945"

What really happened?

holocaust what really happened

www.whatreallyhappened.info

EXCERPTS
#165 1944 - Nahum Goldmann, Jewish Western Bulletin, December 8th, 1944: " ... apart from Jewish losses in combat service, 5,500,000 Jews have been killed in Germany and German-occupied tesritories [territories] since the outbreak of the awr [war]. These figures exceed the number anticipated even by the most pessimistic. ... Yes, the Germans murdered close to six million Jews ... "

#166 1944 - Ilya Ehrenburg, Soviet War News, December 22nd, 1944: "In the regions they seized, Germans killed all Jews, from the old folks to infants in arms. Ask any German prisoners why his fellow countrymen annihilated six million innocent people ... "



(2). “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
Full text of "Breaking The Spell - Holocaust Handbook #31 - Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom"

EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED



(3). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”

The World Is Full of Holocaust Deniers

A new survey suggests that many Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, young people, Muslims, and Hindus believe that facts about the genocide have been distorted.

www.theatlantic.com

EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

- Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

-Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

 

[Kruska]

Did the Nazis create death camps to kill the non-Jews?

The Nazis created death camps to kill everyone that didn't fit into their racial profiling. Far more Slavic people were their concern then Jews.
Since the designated new "Lebensraum" was to be the Ukraine and the SU as such.
The mass shootings and execution in the SU of millions, proved to be a "problem" for those being ordered to do it and "news" of these "on-goings" atrocities were feared to becoming known to the German public.

Due to the top of the SS and the NSDAP being aware that they might lose the war - priority towards extermination was given towards Jews from 1943 onward, instead of working and starving them to death (being deemed as the greater threat to Germany and the world).

The planing from 1943 onward, was to murder off all the Jews first - then to murder all the others, and then to destroy the evidence of those "death" camps (so that NO ONE - especially the Germans, would never get to be aware about this gruesome Nazi chapter) - whilst continuing towards maintaining officially the Labor camps - aka KZ's - who's existence were known to the German public.

It is only the Jews - who claim the Nazi's general extermination of racially inferior people, aka Holocaust solely for themselves.
Which payed off - since I am not aware that victims or rather their surviving Family-members of other ethnicity received US$80 Billion until today from the German government - see the ongoing dispute between today's Poland and Germany, Greece etc. etc. - in regards to demanding reparations.

Even the Negros in Namibia jumped onto the band wagon and got US$ 2 billion, for atrocities committed in 1905 by Imperial Germany.

 

[Kruska]

The Nazis utilized their death camps to dispose of gypsies, etc., but the camps were NOT created for that purpose. The overwhelming majority of people murdered and disposed of at the camps were JEWS.

No - obviously you haven't been to visit "death camps" and their museums and information displays as to the victims.

 

[JoeB131]

First, there are over 167 references to "6 million Jews" either being killed, starving or in peril from 1900 to 1945. (1) Some claims were made even before the 2nd World War ended.

Do you believe all of them?

Yes, I believe firmly established historical facts.

Next, the reason that the Allies didn't do anything about the Holocaust is because there was no genocidal German agenda.

No, they just didn't care about Jews all that much. For instance, General Patton not only kept Jews inside the camps under his Zone of Control, but he left the SS Men in charge of guarding them. (This was part of the reason why Ike relieved him of his command of Third Army.)

Patton the anti-Semite -- and hypocrite

Patton diary entry, September 15, 1945: Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. ...…

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Patton diary entry, September 15, 1945:

Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. … Harrison and his ilk believe that the Displaced Person is a human being, which he is not, and this applies particularly to the Jews, who are lower than animals.”

You still haven't explained how there could have been a genuine genocide against all of Germany's Jews if Jews were allowed to be high ranking Nazi Party members and German military Generals.

They weren't. In fact, every German was required to trace their ancestry to prove they weren't descended from Jews. My Aunt used to have the official documents, tracing back our "Jew Free" family tree.

Finally, most people around the world know that the Holocaust story is grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited. Only about 1/3 of the people who know about the Holocaust believe the whole story.(3) Fortunately, the younger generations have the critical thinking skills to reject the impossible claims of the fraudulent Holocaust Industry.

Actually, it shows how piss ignorant younger generations are. The kind that thinks Taylor Swift is the person of the year.

 

[K9Buck]

No - obviously you haven't been to visit "death camps" and their museums and information displays as to the victims.

So the "Final Solution" was about killing gypsies and not Jews?

 

[Kruska]

So the "Final Solution" was about killing gypsies and not Jews?

Where did I state that? - nowhere.
re-read my post # 45

However those death camps that I visited in Germany - not e.g. Poland - clearly documented far more murdered non-Jews then Jews.
Especially and foremost Russians POW's and Slavic civilian people. And surprisingly to me, a lot of French and Dutch - non-Jews, and even US POW's.

It was due to those visits in the 80'ies, that I started to "critically evaluate" the Holocaust having supposedly being a sole Jewish matter.
As taught "falsely" in school.

 

[K9Buck]

Where did I state that? - nowhere.
re-read my post # 45

However those death camps that I visited in Germany - not e.g. Poland - clearly documented far more murdered non-Jews then Jews.
Especially and foremost Russians POW's and Slavic civilian people. And surprisingly to me, a lot of French and Dutch - non-Jews, and even US POW's.

It was due to those visits in the 80'ies, that I started to "critically evaluate" the Holocaust having supposedly being a sole Jewish matter.
As taught "falsely" in school.

Too many want to deny or diminish the Holocaust by claiming that it was directed at lots of people and not just Jews. It is disingenuous and historically inaccurate propaganda.

 

[Kruska]

Too many want to deny or diminish the Holocaust by claiming that it was directed at lots of people and not just Jews. It is disingenuous and historically inaccurate propaganda.

NO it's a fact - any KZ, death camp stats and Wehrmacht/SS documentation prove it. As well as loss stats in regards to civilians from the Allies.

However your denial towards facts in this matter - clearly shows your personal "rigged" agenda - thanks and over.

 

[Arlette]

Looking at the crosstabs regarding the question "Agreement with Statements about Israel — The Holocaust is a myth", there are some interesting results:

Of 18-29 year olds (Gen Z) 20% believe the Holocaust is a myth and 30% are unsure. Gee, I wonder where they're getting that from?

Among black Americans 13% agree with that statement, while 33% aren't sure.

Democrats are more inclined to believe it's a myth with 10% agreeing while 19% are unsure compared to 6% and 11% respectively among Republicans.

Urbanites and political moderates also have a higher belief in the myth claim than others.

It's astonishing how so many people can be so ignorant on this issue.

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/econTabReport_BOEC4TZ.pdf

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I don't find those numbers shocking. Fact is that the vast majority of people of any age group are less informed than political junkies like us.

 

[K9Buck]

NO it's a fact - any KZ, death camp stats and Wehrmacht/SS documentation prove it. As well as loss stats in regards to civilians from the Allies.

However your denial towards facts in this matter - clearly shows your personal "rigged" agenda - thanks and over.

Yea, you're a LIAR.

 

[Kruska]

Yea, you're a LIAR.

Say's the liar

 

[AZrailwhale]

First, there are over 167 references to "6 million Jews" either being killed, starving or in peril from 1900 to 1945. (1) Some claims were made even before the 2nd World War ended.

Do you believe all of them?

Next, the reason that the Allies didn't do anything about the Holocaust is because there was no genocidal German agenda.

The reason you haven't read anything about intercepted, secret German radio communications is that they contradict the standard Holocaust narrative. (2)

You still haven't explained how there could have been a genuine genocide against all of Germany's Jews if Jews were allowed to be high ranking Nazi Party members and German military Generals.

Finally, most people around the world know that the Holocaust story is grossly exaggerated and crassly exploited. Only about 1/3 of the people who know about the Holocaust believe the whole story.(3) Fortunately, the younger generations have the critical thinking skills to reject the impossible claims of the fraudulent Holocaust Industry.


(1) "167 newspaper and other references to "Six Million Jews" 1900-1945"

What really happened?

holocaust what really happened

www.whatreallyhappened.info

EXCERPTS
#165 1944 - Nahum Goldmann, Jewish Western Bulletin, December 8th, 1944: " ... apart from Jewish losses in combat service, 5,500,000 Jews have been killed in Germany and German-occupied tesritories [territories] since the outbreak of the awr [war]. These figures exceed the number anticipated even by the most pessimistic. ... Yes, the Germans murdered close to six million Jews ... "

#166 1944 - Ilya Ehrenburg, Soviet War News, December 22nd, 1944: "In the regions they seized, Germans killed all Jews, from the old folks to infants in arms. Ask any German prisoners why his fellow countrymen annihilated six million innocent people ... "



(2). “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE”
Full text of "Breaking The Spell - Holocaust Handbook #31 - Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom"

EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.

Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED



(3). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”

The World Is Full of Holocaust Deniers

A new survey suggests that many Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, young people, Muslims, and Hindus believe that facts about the genocide have been distorted.

www.theatlantic.com

EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

- Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

-Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

I hate to burst your bubble, but enigma was a highly classified MILITARY coding system used for radio operational control of military units and ships. Messages about routine matters would have been sent by snail mail and conversations would have been on telephone, NOT RADIO. All the camps were tied into normal telephone networks so there would have been no need to send radio messages about normal operational matters.

 

[Grau]

I hate to burst your bubble, but enigma was a highly classified MILITARY coding system used for radio operational control of military units and ships. Messages about routine matters would have been sent by snail mail and conversations would have been on telephone, NOT RADIO. All the camps were tied into normal telephone networks so there would have been no need to send radio messages about normal operational matters.

I hate to burst your bubble but an undertaking as enormous as the systematic killing of 6 million Jews and 5 million others would have to have involved the military and would not have been a "routine matter".
The logistics of transporting so many people, alone, would have required extensive radio communication and the alleged gassing of millions is far beyond "...normal operational matters"

In other words, there was, indeed, radio communication from the work camps.(1)

What about the 167 claims that "6 million Jews" had been killed, were starving and otherwise in peril?
Do you believe them all?

Why do you believe anything claimed claimed by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(2), (3) that has such a long history of lying, engaging in thousands of false restitution claims, long running scams, and infamous hoaxes such as the "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", "human skin pocketbooks" and shrunken heads from far away?

Thanks,



(1). "The Enemy Is Listening!"
https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/8/1/4028

EXCERPT "Oddly, only a very few Holocaust historians were interested in the information on the concentration camps. The reason for this astonishing lack of interest is presumably due to the following remark by author Hinsley:

The messages from Auschwitz, the largest camp, with 20,000 inmates,[4] mention disease as the chief cause of death, but also include references to executions by hanging and shooting. The decoded messages contain no references to gassings.

To sum up, the following facts may be considered established: The messages deciphered at Bletchley Park undoubtedly constitute one of the most reliable sources on the course of events during the Second World War.

They provide information on undertakings of the German army, navy, and air force. They provide an insight into the events occurring behind the Russian front and the conditions in the concentration camps.

Since the reports from Auschwitz contain no information on mass killings, the question of whether the British Intelligence Service "knew about the Holocaust," can be answered with a single word: "No!. CONTINUED



(2). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(3). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million

For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

www.jpost.com

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.”CONTINUED

 

[Grau]

Yes, I believe firmly established historical facts.

No, they just didn't care about Jews all that much. For instance, General Patton not only kept Jews inside the camps under his Zone of Control, but he left the SS Men in charge of guarding them. (This was part of the reason why Ike relieved him of his command of Third Army.)

Patton the anti-Semite -- and hypocrite

Patton diary entry, September 15, 1945: Evidently the virus started by Morgenthau and Baruch of a Semitic revenge against all Germans is still working. ...…

foreignpolicy.com

Patton diary entry, September 15, 1945:

They weren't. In fact, every German was required to trace their ancestry to prove they weren't descended from Jews. My Aunt used to have the official documents, tracing back our "Jew Free" family tree.

Actually, it shows how piss ignorant younger generations are. The kind that thinks Taylor Swift is the person of the year.

Re: Yes, I believe firmly established historical facts.

That was my point, most all of the 167 reports of 6 million Jews killed, starving or otherwise in peril turned out to be pure propaganda.
How could the Jewish sources that claimed that 6 million Jews had been killed be reliable when written in 1944?

Re: No, they just didn't care about Jews all that much. For instance, General Patton not only kept Jews inside the camps under his Zone of Control, but he left the SS Men in charge of guarding them. (This was part of the reason why Ike relieved him of his command of Third Army.)

Are you kidding? The most influential people in FDR's administration were Jewish who called for the complete destruction of Germany and sterilization of all Germans before America's entry to the war. (1), (2)

Patton was assassinated because he was going to expose Eisenhower's true death camps in which nearly 1 million German POWs and civilians were deliberately starved to death

Re:

They weren't.

I've already posted multiple sources that prove that Jews were not only high ranking Nazi Party members and Generals among the 150,000 Jews who fought for Germany.

Re: Actually, it shows how piss ignorant younger generations are. The kind that thinks Taylor Swift is the person of the year.

The source I cited stated that only 1/3 of the people who know about the Holocaust actually believe the physical impossibilities claimed by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry and that Hindus are most likely to point out the exaggerations claimed by the Holocaust Industry.

By "younger generations", I meant people younger than 65 years old. That's a lot of people to regard as "piss ignorant".
Are you so sure that the vast majority of people around the world are wrong?

Thanks,



(1). "Germany Must Perish!"
https://www.ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.shtml

EXCERPT "Kaufman's fervent proposal for the systematic sterilization of the entire German population was given respectful attention in the American press, including reviews in a number of newspapers. A review in the weekly Time magazine, March 24, 1941, called Kaufman's plan a "sensational idea." CONTINUED



(2). “Morgenthau Plan”

Morgenthau Plan

The Morgenthau Plan, proposed by United States Secretary of the Treasury Henry Morgenthau, Jr., advocated that the Allied occupation of Germany following World War II include measures to eliminate Germany's ability to wage war and to destroy enough of its industrial capacity to reduce Germany to...

military-history.fandom.com

EXCERPT “In the original proposal this was to be achieved in three main steps.

• Germany was to be partitioned into two independent states.
• Germany's main centers of mining and industry, including the Saar area, the Ruhr area and Upper Silesia were to be internationalized or annexed by neighboring nations.
• All heavy industry was to be dismantled or otherwise destroyed.
• 
  
• In early 1947 four million German soldiers were still being used as forced labour in the UK, France, and the Soviet Union. CONTINUED

(3). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”

The World Is Full of Holocaust Deniers

A new survey suggests that many Asians, Africans, Middle Easterners, young people, Muslims, and Hindus believe that facts about the genocide have been distorted.

www.theatlantic.com

EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

- Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

- Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED

 

[JoeB131]

Holy shit, man, get fucking professional help. YOU ARE NOT A WELL MAN!!!

That was my point, most all of the 167 reports of 6 million Jews killed, starving or otherwise in peril turned out to be pure propaganda.
How could the Jewish sources that claimed that 6 million Jews had been killed be reliable when written in 1944?

I wouldn't know what you claim was said. The fact is, six million Jews and five million others being exterminated was documented by the Germans themselves.

Are you kidding? The most influential people in FDR's administration were Jewish who called for the complete destruction of Germany and sterilization of all Germans before America's entry to the war. (1), (2)

Wow... man, you need to lay off the crazy.

Patton was assassinated because he was going to expose Eisenhower's true death camps in which nearly 1 million German POWs and civilians were deliberately starved to death

How do the Roswell Aliens work into this? You can't have a true batshit conspiracy theory without Rosewell Aliens, man.

I've already posted multiple sources that prove that Jews were not only high ranking Nazi Party members and Generals among the 150,000 Jews who fought for Germany.

Really? Name one. Who was the highest Ranking Jew who fought for Nazi Germany? Not someone who had a Jew somewhere back in his family tree, but full-blooded Jews who were fine with what Hitler was doing.

The source I cited stated that only 1/3 of the people who know about the Holocaust actually believe the physical impossibilities claimed by the fraudulent Holocaust Industry and that Hindus are most likely to point out the exaggerations claimed by the Holocaust Industry.

Hindus? Never mind, I don't want to know.
I am sure a lot of people who have never known a major war in their lifetime probably have a hard time getting their heads around the pure numbers of horror of World War II.

My dad liberated a concentration camp. He had nightmares for the rest of his life from what he saw in WWII. I have no great love for the Israelis, but when I hear a holocaust denier, all I can say is, "Fuck you!"

By "younger generations", I meant people younger than 65 years old. That's a lot of people to regard as "piss ignorant".
Are you so sure that the vast majority of people around the world are wrong?

Well, it's nowhere near a "vast majority". While the polls are a bit disheartening, the vast majority of people in the world know that the Holocaust happened.

 

[Lisa558]

What can we expect from the most ignorant generation since WWII?

They don’t even know when WWII was!

 

[Lisa558]

Holocaust denial is one of the biggest examples of antisemitism.

My European great-grandparents, great-aunt, great-uncle, and cousins all perished due to unspeakable Jew-hate, and we see it rising up again now.