The evidence Trump was wiretapped laid out clearly by Mark Levin

[boedicca]

I don't recall Trump blaming some poor youtube videomaker for his bad decisions which led to the death of several Americans. Obabble did - and such bullying ruined the poor guy's life.

But you do recall President Trump tweeting an accusation that President Obama was complicit in a crime that would be one of the biggest political crimes in American history- attempting to ruin President Obama's life- without any evidence or substantiation.

So? Obabble's actions are highly suspicious. We deserve to know if he used the Executive Branch to spy on political adversaries.

Just as we deserve to know whether Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election- just as the Trumpsters actions are highly suspicious.

LOL

There is ZERO evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. Given all the leaks to the press, there is plenty of evidence that Trump and his associates were spied upon.

Thereis zero evidence that Obama ordered the bugging of the Trump campaign. Given all of the leaks to the press, there is more evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians than Trump's whacky claims.

Remember this is a pattern of Trump- he spent 5 years making idiotic Birther claims trying to bully Obama.

There is a ton of evidence that the Obabble Admin leaked highly confidential information that could only have been gotten via electronic surveillance methods - either with or without a FISA warrant.

 

[Syriusly]

But you do recall President Trump tweeting an accusation that President Obama was complicit in a crime that would be one of the biggest political crimes in American history- attempting to ruin President Obama's life- without any evidence or substantiation.

So? Obabble's actions are highly suspicious. We deserve to know if he used the Executive Branch to spy on political adversaries.

Just as we deserve to know whether Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election- just as the Trumpsters actions are highly suspicious.

LOL

There is ZERO evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. Given all the leaks to the press, there is plenty of evidence that Trump and his associates were spied upon.

Thereis zero evidence that Obama ordered the bugging of the Trump campaign. Given all of the leaks to the press, there is more evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians than Trump's whacky claims.

Remember this is a pattern of Trump- he spent 5 years making idiotic Birther claims trying to bully Obama.

There is a ton of evidence that the Obabble Admin leaked highly confidential information that could only have been gotten via electronic surveillance methods - either with or without a FISA warrant.

Just as there is a ton of evidence that Trumpies Admin is colluding with Russia.

LOL

 

[boedicca]

So? Obabble's actions are highly suspicious. We deserve to know if he used the Executive Branch to spy on political adversaries.

Just as we deserve to know whether Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election- just as the Trumpsters actions are highly suspicious.

LOL

There is ZERO evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. Given all the leaks to the press, there is plenty of evidence that Trump and his associates were spied upon.

Thereis zero evidence that Obama ordered the bugging of the Trump campaign. Given all of the leaks to the press, there is more evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians than Trump's whacky claims.

Remember this is a pattern of Trump- he spent 5 years making idiotic Birther claims trying to bully Obama.

There is a ton of evidence that the Obabble Admin leaked highly confidential information that could only have been gotten via electronic surveillance methods - either with or without a FISA warrant.

Just as there is a ton of evidence that Trumpies Admin is colluding with Russia.

LOL

Really? What is it?

 

[Syriusly]

Just as we deserve to know whether Trump colluded with the Russians to win the election- just as the Trumpsters actions are highly suspicious.

LOL

There is ZERO evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. Given all the leaks to the press, there is plenty of evidence that Trump and his associates were spied upon.

Thereis zero evidence that Obama ordered the bugging of the Trump campaign. Given all of the leaks to the press, there is more evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians than Trump's whacky claims.

Remember this is a pattern of Trump- he spent 5 years making idiotic Birther claims trying to bully Obama.

There is a ton of evidence that the Obabble Admin leaked highly confidential information that could only have been gotten via electronic surveillance methods - either with or without a FISA warrant.

Just as there is a ton of evidence that Trumpies Admin is colluding with Russia.

LOL

Really? What is it?

It is exactly where the 'ton of evidence that President Obama's administration leaked highly confidential information from electronic surveillance methods is kept.

 

[imawhosure]

No matter the circle jerk that the leftist Astro turfers on here keep saying trying to deflect, either the MSM or Democrats are going to get hosed on this one can't end any other way.

All of the Russian connection evidence came from the supposed taps Therefore, either they did tap, or the MSM lied about their evidence stream.

All Trump has to say is he got his information from reading the newspaper of record, the NYT.

The leftists are trying to change the narrative as hard as they can, but it isn't going to work. Every time a poster in this thread starts a new thread, what do they do? Why, post a link to their favorite news source that Trump did this or that. Now the left wants to ignore the fact that their own sources started this narrative, lol.

Got a challenge for ya, lol. Go back to all these leftist threads on Trump and the Russians, and see how many are based on facts garnered from supposed investigations by intelligence agencies reported by the MSM, lol. Their whole narrative is blown out of the water if there is no surveillance, which is why they must now somehow spin this all into Trumps fault. Not gonna happen-)


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[Divine Wind]

In the end, I think the truth will be revealed be it Watergate, Monicagate or Russiagate.

Really?

Personally I think that the GOP and Trump will ensure that Trump's claims will be buried.

Yes, really.

We shall see.

Personally IF any President- including President Obama- ever did order the bugging of a Presidential election campaign- I would support that being exposed and that president prosecuted.

I also happen to believe that if a President- any President and that includes President Trump- ever falsely accused a former President of bugging his campaign- that should also be exposed- and that president impeached.

Agreed about prosecution, however simply accusing someone, unless it was under oath like Bill Clinton, isn't sufficient for impeachment. It would, however, severely harm their reputation and political capital.

 

[Divine Wind]

There is ZERO evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. Given all the leaks to the press, there is plenty of evidence that Trump and his associates were spied upon.

Thereis zero evidence that Obama ordered the bugging of the Trump campaign. Given all of the leaks to the press, there is more evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians than Trump's whacky claims.

Remember this is a pattern of Trump- he spent 5 years making idiotic Birther claims trying to bully Obama.

There is a ton of evidence that the Obabble Admin leaked highly confidential information that could only have been gotten via electronic surveillance methods - either with or without a FISA warrant.

Just as there is a ton of evidence that Trumpies Admin is colluding with Russia.

LOL

Really? What is it?

It is exactly where the 'ton of evidence that President Obama's administration leaked highly confidential information from electronic surveillance methods is kept.

The fact remains leaks such as Flynn's had to come from somewhere and (probably) on someone's authority. That's a far cry from actively wiretapping Trump Tower, but it's still under the cognizance of the Obama administration regardless if POTUS knew about it or not.

 

[boedicca]

Thereis zero evidence that Obama ordered the bugging of the Trump campaign. Given all of the leaks to the press, there is more evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians than Trump's whacky claims.

Remember this is a pattern of Trump- he spent 5 years making idiotic Birther claims trying to bully Obama.

There is a ton of evidence that the Obabble Admin leaked highly confidential information that could only have been gotten via electronic surveillance methods - either with or without a FISA warrant.

Just as there is a ton of evidence that Trumpies Admin is colluding with Russia.

LOL

Really? What is it?

It is exactly where the 'ton of evidence that President Obama's administration leaked highly confidential information from electronic surveillance methods is kept.

The fact remains leaks such as Flynn's had to come from somewhere and (probably) on someone's authority. That's a far cry from actively wiretapping Trump Tower, but it's still under the cognizance of the Obama administration regardless if POTUS knew about it or not.

Focusing on "wiretap" and "order" is an Obama diversion.

The real issue is surveillance (by any method) and release of data concerning political adversaries.

 

[Divine Wind]

...The real issue is surveillance (by any method) and release of data concerning political adversaries.

We should maintain monitoring of foreign calls but, as noted above several times, using that for domestic political purposes is wrong.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

No matter the circle jerk that the leftist Astro turfers on here keep saying trying to deflect, either the MSM or Democrats are going to get hosed on this one can't end any other way.

All of the Russian connection evidence came from the supposed taps Therefore, either they did tap, or the MSM lied about their evidence stream.

All Trump has to say is he got his information from reading the newspaper of record, the NYT.

The leftists are trying to change the narrative as hard as they can, but it isn't going to work. Every time a poster in this thread starts a new thread, what do they do? Why, post a link to their favorite news source that Trump did this or that. Now the left wants to ignore the fact that their own sources started this narrative, lol.

Got a challenge for ya, lol. Go back to all these leftist threads on Trump and the Russians, and see how many are based on facts garnered from supposed investigations by intelligence agencies reported by the MSM, lol. Their whole narrative is blown out of the water if there is no surveillance, which is why they must now somehow spin this all into Trumps fault. Not gonna happen-)


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a Trumpian masterpiece....

 

[Syriusly]

Thereis zero evidence that Obama ordered the bugging of the Trump campaign. Given all of the leaks to the press, there is more evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians than Trump's whacky claims.

Remember this is a pattern of Trump- he spent 5 years making idiotic Birther claims trying to bully Obama.

There is a ton of evidence that the Obabble Admin leaked highly confidential information that could only have been gotten via electronic surveillance methods - either with or without a FISA warrant.

Just as there is a ton of evidence that Trumpies Admin is colluding with Russia.

LOL

Really? What is it?

It is exactly where the 'ton of evidence that President Obama's administration leaked highly confidential information from electronic surveillance methods is kept.

The fact remains leaks such as Flynn's had to come from somewhere and (probably) on someone's authority. That's a far cry from actively wiretapping Trump Tower, but it's still under the cognizance of the Obama administration regardless if POTUS knew about it or not.

And Trump campaign officials met with Russian officials during the campaign and prior to Trump being elected- and then lied about those meetings.

All under the 'cognizance' of Donald Trump.

 

[Syriusly]

...The real issue is surveillance (by any method) and release of data concerning political adversaries.

We should maintain monitoring of foreign calls but, as noted above several times, using that for domestic political purposes is wrong.

Agreed.

And if a President was found to be doing so he should be impeached and prosecuted.

Of course falsely accusing a former President of wiretapping for political purposes is also wrong. And a President found to do such a thing should resign, or be forced to resign.

 

[Syriusly]

In the end, I think the truth will be revealed be it Watergate, Monicagate or Russiagate.

Really?

Personally I think that the GOP and Trump will ensure that Trump's claims will be buried.

Yes, really.

We shall see.

Personally IF any President- including President Obama- ever did order the bugging of a Presidential election campaign- I would support that being exposed and that president prosecuted.

I also happen to believe that if a President- any President and that includes President Trump- ever falsely accused a former President of bugging his campaign- that should also be exposed- and that president impeached.

Agreed about prosecution, however simply accusing someone, unless it was under oath like Bill Clinton, isn't sufficient for impeachment. It would, however, severely harm their reputation and political capital.

Congress can impeach a President for anything it wants.

Would a GOP Congress impeach Donald Trump just because he lied about President Obama in order to attack him personally and politically?

Not a chance in hell.

 

[Divine Wind]

There is a ton of evidence that the Obabble Admin leaked highly confidential information that could only have been gotten via electronic surveillance methods - either with or without a FISA warrant.

Just as there is a ton of evidence that Trumpies Admin is colluding with Russia.

LOL

Really? What is it?

It is exactly where the 'ton of evidence that President Obama's administration leaked highly confidential information from electronic surveillance methods is kept.

The fact remains leaks such as Flynn's had to come from somewhere and (probably) on someone's authority. That's a far cry from actively wiretapping Trump Tower, but it's still under the cognizance of the Obama administration regardless if POTUS knew about it or not.

And Trump campaign officials met with Russian officials during the campaign and prior to Trump being elected- and then lied about those meetings.

All under the 'cognizance' of Donald Trump.

Please post the content and purpose of those meetings.

 

[Syriusly]

All Trump has to say is he got his information from reading the newspaper of record, the NYT.m

Except of course the New York Times never claimed that President Obama ordered the wire tapping of Donald Trump's phones- that would be President Trump's invention.

 

[Divine Wind]

...The real issue is surveillance (by any method) and release of data concerning political adversaries.

We should maintain monitoring of foreign calls but, as noted above several times, using that for domestic political purposes is wrong.

Agreed.

And if a President was found to be doing so he should be impeached and prosecuted.

Of course falsely accusing a former President of wiretapping for political purposes is also wrong. And a President found to do such a thing should resign, or be forced to resign.

How do you force a sitting President to resign other than impeachment?

 

[Syriusly]

Just as there is a ton of evidence that Trumpies Admin is colluding with Russia.

LOL

Really? What is it?

It is exactly where the 'ton of evidence that President Obama's administration leaked highly confidential information from electronic surveillance methods is kept.

The fact remains leaks such as Flynn's had to come from somewhere and (probably) on someone's authority. That's a far cry from actively wiretapping Trump Tower, but it's still under the cognizance of the Obama administration regardless if POTUS knew about it or not.

And Trump campaign officials met with Russian officials during the campaign and prior to Trump being elected- and then lied about those meetings.

All under the 'cognizance' of Donald Trump.

Please post the content and purpose of those meetings.

I am sure we would all love to know.

Why hasn't the Trump administration released them?

 

[Syriusly]

...The real issue is surveillance (by any method) and release of data concerning political adversaries.

We should maintain monitoring of foreign calls but, as noted above several times, using that for domestic political purposes is wrong.

Agreed.

And if a President was found to be doing so he should be impeached and prosecuted.

Of course falsely accusing a former President of wiretapping for political purposes is also wrong. And a President found to do such a thing should resign, or be forced to resign.

How do you force a sitting President to resign other than impeachment?

Richard Nixon was forced to resign.

 

[Divine Wind]

Congress can impeach a President for anything it wants.

Would a GOP Congress impeach Donald Trump just because he lied about President Obama in order to attack him personally and politically?

Not a chance in hell.

Sure they can, but will it stick? Again, Slick Willie set the bar on what a President can do, be impeached and still get away with it. Obviously lying to the public and committing perjury aren't enough.

 

[Divine Wind]

Really? What is it?

It is exactly where the 'ton of evidence that President Obama's administration leaked highly confidential information from electronic surveillance methods is kept.

The fact remains leaks such as Flynn's had to come from somewhere and (probably) on someone's authority. That's a far cry from actively wiretapping Trump Tower, but it's still under the cognizance of the Obama administration regardless if POTUS knew about it or not.

And Trump campaign officials met with Russian officials during the campaign and prior to Trump being elected- and then lied about those meetings.

All under the 'cognizance' of Donald Trump.

Please post the content and purpose of those meetings.

I am sure we would all love to know.

Why hasn't the Trump administration released them?

IDK. Ask them.