The failure of overriding Trump’s veto in the House is quite strange

[Rigby5]

Obviously a wall is more important for the right wing than military readiness.

A wall IS military readiness.

And, if you don't believe that, go take a tour of Europe and look at all the walls and castles.

.

The US has not been attacked since 1812.

 

[Rigby5]

Lol
Illegal aliens have no right to be here and should be treated as such

When an immigrant legally presents themselves at an entrance point, they are neither illegal or alien yet. They are applying for immigration. MOST of those 70,000 legally presented themselves to the border entrance points.

Good point in that the caravan I believe was mostly Hondurans who are fleeing the fascist military in Honduras being used to murder civilians ever since they deposed the elected president, Zalaya.
It appears the US was complicit with that takeover.

What happens in Honduras is none of our business

It becomes our business when it gets dumped on our doorstep. The US needs to be more proactive.

Lol
Na, not really
We can’t afford lost causes

It is not an accident when the Honduran military, trained and armed by the US, deposes the elected president of a Hondauras, after we threaten him for being too friendly with Chavez.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

This is obviously a victory for Trump despite the fact that Dems had voted against the measure initially. It’s not like any democrat in office doesn’t care about border security given the billions they agreed to in the spending bill. It’s just basic common sense a goddamn wall is a stupid idea. Sorry, republicans, even though this was a victory for Trump, the wall will NEVER be built. Why? Because even appropriate funding for such a thing wouldn’t nearly be the only obstacle in actually building a wall along the border. Ah, the repair of Washington will probably never come I guess.

It’s being built, right now. Every one of those pussies who say they are against it, are on video saying they were for it. They did a turnaround because Don is for it. A stupid idea, is open borders. Even with the security we have, we have 70k monthly trying to infiltrate the country. It costs way too much to house and feed them. They are made victim by their own people, and contribute nothing to the economy. Don’t puff your chest out too much. Dims lost, and continue to lose. Two years of bullshit and lies, not to mention the money wasted for nothing. And now all those tough guys are doing exactly what you’re queen dyke did after she lost....hiding. It’s just the same as when all those cocky experts were wrong. How could Don have won? How could we have been so wrong? I don’t understand. This is just driving it home. Round two, you lose! Now shut the fuck up!


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Okay, let's say that the wall is that important just for argument sake. The last two previous presidents built an average of 73 miles per year of either Wall or Security Fence for a total of 733 miles. For the fiscal years of 2017 and 2018 there was 1.3 billion funded by law for upkeep and new wall, security fencing allocated in the budgets. Do you know how many inches of new additional Wall or Security Fence were built in 2017 and 2018? Zero. Absolutely Zero. If the average that was funded, it would have been a total of 146 miles of new construction. It was ZERO. The money was allocated. And it was enough for upgrading and to build that new construction that I have said. You want to tell me where that money has gone? Considering that the maximum amount of real Wall/Security Fencing that can be built in a reasonable manner is about 1000 miles total along the border, that means that wall should have been completed without any changes by September of next year without any changes at all. And by the end of next year, all the walls and security fencing would have been funded to be upgraded and or replaced.

If there is an emergency, it is caused by not the lack of funds but the lack of building the damned thing in the first place that's already been funded. And that emergency is created by the Donald who is demanding that we cover up for his incompetence. What he really needs is a good old fashion Audit.

I think you are directly related to Mike. This has nothing to do with money. Only ones that are incompetent are dims.


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[Billy000]

Right how silly of them. The government wants to build a wall through their property and for the sake of sucking government dick, they should let them! I love how this example of big government is an exception for you hypocrites.

They have no property on the Rio Grande right of way liar. All Texas rivers have a right of way owned by the government. Other states do to. Next lie.

Lol what the fuck? Oh so your solution is to build the wall on a river. Wow that’s brilliant. This forum never ceases to amaze me lol

Your refusal to defend national sovereignty baffles many of us.

I’ve made it quite clear on this forum over and over that border security is critical. It’s just stupid to assume a wall is a good idea. How this simple nuance escapes you people is beyond me.

Right how silly of them. The government wants to build a wall through their property and for the sake of sucking government dick, they should let them! I love how this example of big government is an exception for you hypocrites.

They have no property on the Rio Grande right of way liar. All Texas rivers have a right of way owned by the government. Other states do to. Next lie.

Lol what the fuck? Oh so your solution is to build the wall on a river. Wow that’s brilliant. This forum never ceases to amaze me lol

Your refusal to defend national sovereignty baffles many of us.

I’ve made it quite clear on this forum over and over that border security is critical. It’s just stupid to assume a wall is a good idea. How this simple nuance escapes you people is beyond me.

Right how silly of them. The government wants to build a wall through their property and for the sake of sucking government dick, they should let them! I love how this example of big government is an exception for you hypocrites.

They have no property on the Rio Grande right of way liar. All Texas rivers have a right of way owned by the government. Other states do to. Next lie.

Lol what the fuck? Oh so your solution is to build the wall on a river. Wow that’s brilliant. This forum never ceases to amaze me lol

Your refusal to defend national sovereignty baffles many of us.

I’ve made it quite clear on this forum over and over that border security is critical. It’s just stupid to assume a wall is a good idea. How this simple nuance escapes you people is beyond me.

Border Patrol and homeland security who asked for the wall are the experts.
What are your expert qualifications that says the opposite of what they know and want?

Lol I’m going to need some direct quotes and none of should be ones appointed by Trump.

 

[SmokeALib]

They have no property on the Rio Grande right of way liar. All Texas rivers have a right of way owned by the government. Other states do to. Next lie.

Lol what the fuck? Oh so your solution is to build the wall on a river. Wow that’s brilliant. This forum never ceases to amaze me lol

Your refusal to defend national sovereignty baffles many of us.

I’ve made it quite clear on this forum over and over that border security is critical. It’s just stupid to assume a wall is a good idea. How this simple nuance escapes you people is beyond me.

They have no property on the Rio Grande right of way liar. All Texas rivers have a right of way owned by the government. Other states do to. Next lie.

Lol what the fuck? Oh so your solution is to build the wall on a river. Wow that’s brilliant. This forum never ceases to amaze me lol

Your refusal to defend national sovereignty baffles many of us.

I’ve made it quite clear on this forum over and over that border security is critical. It’s just stupid to assume a wall is a good idea. How this simple nuance escapes you people is beyond me.

They have no property on the Rio Grande right of way liar. All Texas rivers have a right of way owned by the government. Other states do to. Next lie.

Lol what the fuck? Oh so your solution is to build the wall on a river. Wow that’s brilliant. This forum never ceases to amaze me lol

Your refusal to defend national sovereignty baffles many of us.

I’ve made it quite clear on this forum over and over that border security is critical. It’s just stupid to assume a wall is a good idea. How this simple nuance escapes you people is beyond me.

Border Patrol and homeland security who asked for the wall are the experts.
What are your expert qualifications that says the opposite of what they know and want?

Lol I’m going to need some direct quotes and none of should be ones appointed by Trump.

You lose.

 

[Billy000]

Walls work.

Oh you mean as a small perimeter? Yeah no shit lol. They are a waste otherwise.

Walls work:

This is the same non sense you posted last time lol. Not only do you have no link, but this graph makes the ridiculous conclusion that ZERO illegally crossed the border in 2017. That is such bullshit lol.

It's not bullshit. It's fact. the source of the data is printed on the chart.

I want the link that would provide actual context of what this graph means.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Obviously a wall is more important for the right wing than military readiness.

A wall IS military readiness.

And, if you don't believe that, go take a tour of Europe and look at all the walls and castles.

.

And read up on all the failures from all those walls and castles.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It becomes our business when it gets dumped on our doorstep. The US needs to be more proactive.

Fine.

Can we make them pay for it?

.

In a way. We just send them less foriegn aid and freeze them out of any trade agreements. That's the way we used to do it and it worked. In fact, it brought down entire governments.

 

[Rustic]

Obviously a wall is more important for the right wing than military readiness.

A wall IS military readiness.

And, if you don't believe that, go take a tour of Europe and look at all the walls and castles.

.

And read up on all the failures from all those walls and castles.

Up to this point our southern border policy has been a 100% failure, We have zero border security

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Lol
Illegal aliens have no right to be here and should be treated as such

When an immigrant legally presents themselves at an entrance point, they are neither illegal or alien yet. They are applying for immigration. MOST of those 70,000 legally presented themselves to the border entrance points.

Good point in that the caravan I believe was mostly Hondurans who are fleeing the fascist military in Honduras being used to murder civilians ever since they deposed the elected president, Zalaya.
It appears the US was complicit with that takeover.

What happens in Honduras is none of our business

It becomes our business when it gets dumped on our doorstep. The US needs to be more proactive.

Lol
Na, not really
We can’t afford lost causes

Oh, you short sighted person you.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

When an immigrant legally presents themselves at an entrance point, they are neither illegal or alien yet. They are applying for immigration. MOST of those 70,000 legally presented themselves to the border entrance points.

Good point in that the caravan I believe was mostly Hondurans who are fleeing the fascist military in Honduras being used to murder civilians ever since they deposed the elected president, Zalaya.
It appears the US was complicit with that takeover.

What happens in Honduras is none of our business

It becomes our business when it gets dumped on our doorstep. The US needs to be more proactive.

Lol
Na, not really
We can’t afford lost causes

It is not an accident when the Honduran military, trained and armed by the US, deposes the elected president of a Hondauras, after we threaten him for being too friendly with Chavez.

Finally, someone that understands the right way to do it.

 

[Rustic]

When an immigrant legally presents themselves at an entrance point, they are neither illegal or alien yet. They are applying for immigration. MOST of those 70,000 legally presented themselves to the border entrance points.

Good point in that the caravan I believe was mostly Hondurans who are fleeing the fascist military in Honduras being used to murder civilians ever since they deposed the elected president, Zalaya.
It appears the US was complicit with that takeover.

What happens in Honduras is none of our business

It becomes our business when it gets dumped on our doorstep. The US needs to be more proactive.

Lol
Na, not really
We can’t afford lost causes

Oh, you short sighted person you.

There’s never any return for foreign aid... It’s a fools errand

 

[Daryl Hunt]

This is obviously a victory for Trump despite the fact that Dems had voted against the measure initially. It’s not like any democrat in office doesn’t care about border security given the billions they agreed to in the spending bill. It’s just basic common sense a goddamn wall is a stupid idea. Sorry, republicans, even though this was a victory for Trump, the wall will NEVER be built. Why? Because even appropriate funding for such a thing wouldn’t nearly be the only obstacle in actually building a wall along the border. Ah, the repair of Washington will probably never come I guess.

It’s being built, right now. Every one of those pussies who say they are against it, are on video saying they were for it. They did a turnaround because Don is for it. A stupid idea, is open borders. Even with the security we have, we have 70k monthly trying to infiltrate the country. It costs way too much to house and feed them. They are made victim by their own people, and contribute nothing to the economy. Don’t puff your chest out too much. Dims lost, and continue to lose. Two years of bullshit and lies, not to mention the money wasted for nothing. And now all those tough guys are doing exactly what you’re queen dyke did after she lost....hiding. It’s just the same as when all those cocky experts were wrong. How could Don have won? How could we have been so wrong? I don’t understand. This is just driving it home. Round two, you lose! Now shut the fuck up!


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Okay, let's say that the wall is that important just for argument sake. The last two previous presidents built an average of 73 miles per year of either Wall or Security Fence for a total of 733 miles. For the fiscal years of 2017 and 2018 there was 1.3 billion funded by law for upkeep and new wall, security fencing allocated in the budgets. Do you know how many inches of new additional Wall or Security Fence were built in 2017 and 2018? Zero. Absolutely Zero. If the average that was funded, it would have been a total of 146 miles of new construction. It was ZERO. The money was allocated. And it was enough for upgrading and to build that new construction that I have said. You want to tell me where that money has gone? Considering that the maximum amount of real Wall/Security Fencing that can be built in a reasonable manner is about 1000 miles total along the border, that means that wall should have been completed without any changes by September of next year without any changes at all. And by the end of next year, all the walls and security fencing would have been funded to be upgraded and or replaced.

If there is an emergency, it is caused by not the lack of funds but the lack of building the damned thing in the first place that's already been funded. And that emergency is created by the Donald who is demanding that we cover up for his incompetence. What he really needs is a good old fashion Audit.

I think you are directly related to Mike. This has nothing to do with money. Only ones that are incompetent are dims.


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I knew you strumpets are well below the intel limits to understand logic and economics. Doesn't surprise me one bit. Just keep drinking that orange koolaid.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Obviously a wall is more important for the right wing than military readiness.

A wall IS military readiness.

And, if you don't believe that, go take a tour of Europe and look at all the walls and castles.

.

And read up on all the failures from all those walls and castles.

Up to this point our southern border policy has been a 100% failure, We have zero border security

Actually, the plysical border security has been pretty damned good. Almost anyone trying to enter without coming through a portal is stopped cold either by the Mexican Police or the Border Patrol. What's broken is the ones legally (and illegally) coming through the portals. Some are just sneaky as hell while other overstay their visas and disappear for years. Like the Moron that was supposed to be deported in 2007. They caught him again in 2018 and he tried to sue under the Dreamers act. He even convinced a lower court he should be included in the Dreamers act. The last court disagreed. The Moron was immediately picked by ICE and deported just last month. If they are deporting some one, don't let them out of handcuffs. Put them directly on the bus and get them gone. Don't allow them to even go to the bathroom without an armed guard.

And track those Visas and Green Cards. When they run out, give them one chance to renew them. IF they don't in a reasonable amount of time, deport them without warning. They aren't citizens and don't deserve the same rights as a citizen when the green cards and visas run out.

This is not a partisan problem. It's something EVERYONE needs to address.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Good point in that the caravan I believe was mostly Hondurans who are fleeing the fascist military in Honduras being used to murder civilians ever since they deposed the elected president, Zalaya.
It appears the US was complicit with that takeover.

What happens in Honduras is none of our business

It becomes our business when it gets dumped on our doorstep. The US needs to be more proactive.

Lol
Na, not really
We can’t afford lost causes

Oh, you short sighted person you.

There’s never any return for foreign aid... It’s a fools errand

You are seeing the return on not having adequate arm twisting using foreign aid right now at the southern border.

 

[bripat9643]

We hear all the time walls don't work, walls don't work what we never hear though is a viable alternative we get a lot of pie in the sky fantasy stuff that might sound good in a sound bite or or on a bumpersticker but are not realistic.

Dims have to say that walls don't work because what would happen if they admitted the truth? They would not be able to object to building the wall, and that's the last thing they want. They are flat out lying.

 

[bripat9643]

Obviously a wall is more important for the right wing than military readiness.

A wall IS military readiness.

And, if you don't believe that, go take a tour of Europe and look at all the walls and castles.

.

And read up on all the failures from all those walls and castles.

Up to this point our southern border policy has been a 100% failure, We have zero border security

Actually, the plysical border security has been pretty damned good. Almost anyone trying to enter without coming through a portal is stopped cold either by the Mexican Police or the Border Patrol. What's broken is the ones legally (and illegally) coming through the portals. Some are just sneaky as hell while other overstay their visas and disappear for years. Like the Moron that was supposed to be deported in 2007. They caught him again in 2018 and he tried to sue under the Dreamers act. He even convinced a lower court he should be included in the Dreamers act. The last court disagreed. The Moron was immediately picked by ICE and deported just last month. If they are deporting some one, don't let them out of handcuffs. Put them directly on the bus and get them gone. Don't allow them to even go to the bathroom without an armed guard.

And track those Visas and Green Cards. When they run out, give them one chance to renew them. IF they don't in a reasonable amount of time, deport them without warning. They aren't citizens and don't deserve the same rights as a citizen when the green cards and visas run out.

This is not a partisan problem. It's something EVERYONE needs to address.

Build the fucking wall.

 

[bripat9643]

What happens in Honduras is none of our business

It becomes our business when it gets dumped on our doorstep. The US needs to be more proactive.

Lol
Na, not really
We can’t afford lost causes

Oh, you short sighted person you.

There’s never any return for foreign aid... It’s a fools errand

You are seeing the return on not having adequate arm twisting using foreign aid right now at the southern border.

Build the fucking wall.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Obviously a wall is more important for the right wing than military readiness.

A wall IS military readiness.

And, if you don't believe that, go take a tour of Europe and look at all the walls and castles.

.

And read up on all the failures from all those walls and castles.

Up to this point our southern border policy has been a 100% failure, We have zero border security

Actually, the plysical border security has been pretty damned good. Almost anyone trying to enter without coming through a portal is stopped cold either by the Mexican Police or the Border Patrol. What's broken is the ones legally (and illegally) coming through the portals. Some are just sneaky as hell while other overstay their visas and disappear for years. Like the Moron that was supposed to be deported in 2007. They caught him again in 2018 and he tried to sue under the Dreamers act. He even convinced a lower court he should be included in the Dreamers act. The last court disagreed. The Moron was immediately picked by ICE and deported just last month. If they are deporting some one, don't let them out of handcuffs. Put them directly on the bus and get them gone. Don't allow them to even go to the bathroom without an armed guard.

And track those Visas and Green Cards. When they run out, give them one chance to renew them. IF they don't in a reasonable amount of time, deport them without warning. They aren't citizens and don't deserve the same rights as a citizen when the green cards and visas run out.

This is not a partisan problem. It's something EVERYONE needs to address.

Build the fucking wall.

Sure, but it should have been being built the last 2 years. Not one single inch of new wall or security fence construction was done even though it was funded. Looks to me like your Hero must have had one hell of a golfing outing with those funds. I suggest you stop giving him a free ride and get on his ass and have him tell us all what he did with the 2.6 billion he received to BUILD THAT DAMNED WALL already.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It becomes our business when it gets dumped on our doorstep. The US needs to be more proactive.

Lol
Na, not really
We can’t afford lost causes

Oh, you short sighted person you.

There’s never any return for foreign aid... It’s a fools errand

You are seeing the return on not having adequate arm twisting using foreign aid right now at the southern border.

Build the fucking wall.

You just won a special award for your spamming using the same worn out phrase over and over. Enjoy, spammy.