The gift of self-hatred...from feminism to your daughter

[Syriusly]

We do need to keep them helpless, barefoot and pregnant.

Exhibit A. is that the ONLY alternative to masculinization of young girls that can be imagined?

As a woman, I take EXTREME offence to the OP. Encouraging women to be active, smart and strong isn't making girls more masculine, it's making them more capable.s.

As the father of a daughter- I agree with you.

The OP is an asshole- and my daughter is stronger and wiser than any three of him/her/it.

 

[Syriusly]

They don't need me/you/anyone telling them what's proper for them.

Do they need Hollywood feminists telling them what is proper? .

Hollywood tells a story- it doesn't tell women what they must be- that would be you.

You are the one telling our girls what is proper- and projecting your hate onto them.

 

[DOTR]

Why are girls looking to swap gender based on a character in the Hunger Games? Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) is pretty hot as a girl and well capable physically. Why the need to swap gender? Just be a girl and do what you want to do. Maybe I shouldn't have asked...

Because youngsters have trouble understanding that its just a movie. That K Everdeen has never fired an arrow offscreen without special effects improving the shot. They are bombarded with this message and they look at themselves and, not being able to karate chop four guys into submission, they feel less than. They have feminine urges and they wonder why they are different (not knowing that it is the masculine women the media presents who are different) and they develop self hatred and self revulsion.
They are taught that only by being manly are they fully human.

 

[Syriusly]

As a woman, I take EXTREME offence to the OP. Encouraging women to be active, smart and strong isn't making girls more masculine, it's making them more capable.

I grew up playing sports, catching tadpoles in creeks and gathering wild berries for my mother to make into jam. All while wearing pretty dresses my mother made for me.

Today I'm making pretty dresses for my granddaughter to wear while she plays with her cars and Legos. Strong, capable women make the country stronger, make stronger marriages and more successful life partners.

Weakness encourages dependance, poverty and helplessness. I realize this is the preferred Conservative wife model but such women don't make good partners or helpmates.

Funny my wife is a conservative AND did all those things you did AND is a mother of 4 kids and cooks,cleans etc. She is the farthest thing from a femitard as she could be. Oh and she works as well. Feminism is a mental disorder just like liberalism.

So your wife is a strong woman? And probably independent in many ways?

Strong absolutely. Independent I don't know...we have been together since I was 20 and she was 18 so always depended on each other to get through things. I think if she had to that yes she could do things on her own.

I don't doubt that a bit, you on the other hand would certainly struggle. Would she need to remain in your nice white little town like you do? Or could she make it alone anywhere?

Why do this? You and Odium essentially agree on this topic. Why throw in the bullshit insults that have no bearing on the topic. As I said, Odium and I have disagreed (strongly) on many topics. But can't you be civil when you agree? This shows why there is so much animosity out here. Even when you agree you are hostile.

Kudo's- I agree exactly.

 

[Syriusly]

Why are girls looking to swap gender based on a character in the Hunger Games? Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) is pretty hot as a girl and well capable physically. Why the need to swap gender? Just be a girl and do what you want to do. Maybe I shouldn't have asked...

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They are taught that only by being manly are they fully human.

I seriously recommend you look inward to find why you believe this crap you are spewing.

For every Mockingjay- there is 3 or 4 La La Lands with women in skirts looking for love.

Why are you so terrified of the image of a strong woman competing equally with a man?

 

[DOTR]

They don't need me/you/anyone telling them what's proper for them.

Do they need Hollywood feminists telling them what is proper? .

Hollywood tells a story- it doesn't tell women what they must be- that would be you.

You are the one telling our girls what is proper- and projecting your hate onto them.

Hollywood deliberately imposes a view. And tells women what they must be. And then says "who me" if you disagree with it. Like yourself.

 

[DOTR]

Why are girls looking to swap gender based on a character in the Hunger Games? Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) is pretty hot as a girl and well capable physically. Why the need to swap gender? Just be a girl and do what you want to do. Maybe I shouldn't have asked...

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They are taught that only by being manly are they fully human.

I seriously recommend you look inward to find why you believe this crap you are spewing.

For every Mockingjay- there is 3 or 4 La La Lands with women in skirts looking for love.

Why are you so terrified of the image of a strong woman competing equally with a man?

Why do you associate "strong women" with (1) rarity and (2) terror?

 

[Syriusly]

Why are girls looking to swap gender based on a character in the Hunger Games? Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) is pretty hot as a girl and well capable physically. Why the need to swap gender? Just be a girl and do what you want to do. Maybe I shouldn't have asked...

Because youngsters have trouble understanding that its just a movie. That K Everdeen has never fired an arrow offscreen without special effects improving the shot. .

Because of course boys don't have to worry about that....look how Hollywood is trying to convince boys that they can all fire arrows without special effects improving the shot.....

 

[Syriusly]

They don't need me/you/anyone telling them what's proper for them.

Do they need Hollywood feminists telling them what is proper? .

Hollywood tells a story- it doesn't tell women what they must be- that would be you.

You are the one telling our girls what is proper- and projecting your hate onto them.

Hollywood deliberately imposes a view. And tells women what they must be. And then says "who me" if you disagree with it. Like yourself.

Hollywood is not you. That is what you are doing. Not Hollywood.

Remember- the only one 'hating' in this thread- is you.

 

[Syriusly]

Why are girls looking to swap gender based on a character in the Hunger Games? Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) is pretty hot as a girl and well capable physically. Why the need to swap gender? Just be a girl and do what you want to do. Maybe I shouldn't have asked...

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They are taught that only by being manly are they fully human.

I seriously recommend you look inward to find why you believe this crap you are spewing.

For every Mockingjay- there is 3 or 4 La La Lands with women in skirts looking for love.

Why are you so terrified of the image of a strong woman competing equally with a man?

Why do you associate "strong women" with (1) rarity and (2) terror?

I seriously recommend you look inward to find why you believe this crap you are spewing.

For every Mockingjay- there is 3 or 4 La La Lands with women in skirts looking for love.

Why are you so terrified of the image of a strong woman competing equally with a man?

 

[DOTR]

But suppose (hopefully hypothetical) something happened to you. It sounds as though your wife could support the family and still be a great Mom. I think the kind of dependence the two of you have is voluntary. That works well. It is the idea that a woman must be dependent that I see as a great disservice to women in general.

Transparent lie. You see any suggestion or hint that a woman is not masculine as cause for insults and degradation aimed at them. Nothing about "must". The very act pf women making a natural choice infuriates you.

 

[hjmick]

Anybody with any sense (not liberal), or with any morals, can see that feminism is a blinding hatred for anything feminine.



Popularity of tomboys is encouraging girls to swap gender, says NHS psychologist

More than double the number of girls compared to boys now seek the NHS's gender identity development service

• Peter Walker

8 MAY 2017 • 10:00PM
The popularity of tomboys has sparked a sharp rise in the number of girls wanting to swap gender, according to a leading NHS psychologist.

New statistics show that for the first time, more than double the number of girls compared to boys seek the NHS's gender identity development service.

In popular culture, lead characters such as Katniss Everdeen in The Hunger Games, Tris Prior in the Divergent series, or Eleven in Stranger Things, have sparked a revival of strong tomboyoish, females.

In the past year there have been 1,400 'assigned at birth' females who have sought treatment, compared with 616 males.

"It's a very interesting question, and an important question, because it was the other way around initially," said Dr Polly Carmichael, who is the head of the gender identity development service.

"There have been different ideas put forward. Some people have talked about how it is easier for girls to cross-gender identify because it's a positive image to be a tomboy.

"People are also wondering what it is to be a female at the moment and whether that's something that is a cause for concern for young people."

Characters such as Katniss Everdeen in the Hunger Games have helped tomboys to become popular
The service - which is the NHS's only gender identity service and is based at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust in north London - was commissioned in 2009.

In its first year, it recorded carrying out appointments for 56 males compared with 40 girls.

Since then, the numbers have grown astronomically, and the gender gap has both flipped around and widened.

There were 88 males compared with 118 females in 2011/12, 121 compared with 188 in 2012/13, 188 to 278 in 2013/14, 270 to 427 in 2014/15, and 490 to 929 in 2015/16.

Popular arguments that suggest it is unappealing to be female include a perception of being tied to domestic labour, body image pressures and a gender pay gap.

One in four people earning between £43,000 and £150,000 in each of the last six financial years were women, according to the latest research by global law firm Clyde & Co.

"It's a sensitive and contentious area and people have strong views about treatment and so the arguments get polarised and very heated," added Dr Carmichael.

The latest figures also show the number of total referrals to the Tavistock Centre has increased from 97 in 2009/10 to 2,016 this time around.

The number of referrals has generally risen by more than 50 per cent each year, although the most recent data indicates only a 42 per cent increase.

Dr Carmichael and her colleagues believe the numbers are levelling out slightly because the message - that seeking treatment for gender dyphoria is acceptable - is "out there".

The data also revealed meanwhile that 32 children aged five or below - or at least just their parents - visited the clinic in 2016/17, compared with 20 in 2015/16, and just six in 2009/10.

Only about 40 per cent go through with identifying as a different gender, known as a "social transition", and the clinic will only consider referring children for hormone blockers once they reach stage two of puberty.

Danni McFadyen, at three years old, is believed to be the youngest child to undergo a "social transition" when her story was widely reported in 2015.

The clinic only expects families to visit if the children are showing genuine distress, and does not expect the particularly young kids to join their parents at appointment.

"There has been a huge increase in interest over the last couple of years," added Dr Carmichael.

"Some people have argued that social media has had an impact by spreading awareness, and the media coverage has been phenomenal.

"Schools are also really backing children who want to make that decision.

"It's also something people have become interested in and we have people who feel they now have a voice when they didn't before.

"I think if parents have a concern it's entirely appropriate to seek expert advice. We don't say 'they need a transition', but it's an opportunity for them to discuss what they have heard and to develop a dialogue and relationship.

"If families don't seek support then it might be that only later, at puberty, they're very distressed so it's not unhelpful to make contact earlier."





Orignal Article

Your OP is stupid as hell.....


We always had Tom boys as kids, in my age group/class none of them became Lesbos..



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What OP? He posted one sentence, using it as an opportunity to poke liberals, then posted the entire article. He is eagerly awaiting someone to tell him what he thinks. Christ, I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit a better OP...

 

[DOTR]

o hell no...we wont go from the op's topic to saying that dotr doesnt take care of his own.....just o hell no

The dangers to young girls, pointed out by a psychologist who works with them, cannot be discussed openly. This is very much thoughtcrime in their minds. And so they direct their hatred at the source of the information in hope the information will be hidden.
Feminists would sacrifice EVERY young girl to advance feminism. It is evil.

 

[ricechickie]

Why are girls looking to swap gender based on a character in the Hunger Games? Katniss Everdeen (Jennifer Lawrence) is pretty hot as a girl and well capable physically. Why the need to swap gender? Just be a girl and do what you want to do. Maybe I shouldn't have asked...

Because youngsters have trouble understanding that its just a movie. That K Everdeen has never fired an arrow offscreen without special effects improving the shot. They are bombarded with this message and they look at themselves and, not being able to karate chop four guys into submission, they feel less than. They have feminine urges and they wonder why they are different (not knowing that it is the masculine women the media presents who are different) and they develop self hatred and self revulsion.
They are taught that only by being manly are they fully human.

What "feminine urges" do you believe girls have that make them wonder if they're different?

 

[Syriusly]

You need to get out more. I know plenty of single women raising children and supporting the household. And they do so without gov't assistance. But I can see why you would say you don't know any. That would mess up your narrative.

Single mothers raising fatherless kids...I need to seek these out? Why?

Well for one thing you might learn something.

Secondly, you might meet some interesting people.

Thirdly, you might be in a position to be a helpful neighbor.

Or you could just sit in righteous judgment of them.

 

[Syriusly]

o hell no...we wont go from the op's topic to saying that dotr doesnt take care of his own.....just o hell no

Feminists would sacrifice EVERY young girl to advance feminism. It is evil.

You would sacrifice EVERY young girl to deny all girls the opportunity to decide what is the correct path for themselves-that is evil.

 

[Syriusly]

o hell no...we wont go from the op's topic to saying that dotr doesnt take care of his own.....just o hell no

The dangers to young girls, pointed out by a psychologist who works with them, cannot be discussed openly..

What psychologist?

 

[Syriusly]

But suppose (hopefully hypothetical) something happened to you. It sounds as though your wife could support the family and still be a great Mom. I think the kind of dependence the two of you have is voluntary. That works well. It is the idea that a woman must be dependent that I see as a great disservice to women in general.

Transparent lie. You see any suggestion or hint that a woman is not masculine as cause for insults and degradation aimed at them. Nothing about "must". The very act pf women making a natural choice infuriates you.

Winterborn is not the one starting a thread whining about how feminism is hurting all of our daughters- that would be you telling all of us how we should raise our daughters.

Thanks to feminism- my daughter has a choice- she can be the dress wearing, make up enjoying young lady she usually is, or she can be the bad ass kicking her boyfriends ass in paintball.

She can choose in life to go to college- well she really doesn't have a choice there- she is going to college- thanks to her feminist parents- and she can choose between a professional career- any professional career- thanks to feminists- or she can take on the incredibly hard profession of full time mom- if she has a partner she can team up with to do so.

And she doesn't have to be like Katniss.

She can be like Geena Davis

 

[Anathema]

What say we leave it up to the individual females, they can determine that for themselves......

Okay. Just a couple clarifications:

1. They will be expected to compete at the same standard as their biologically Male counterparts.

2. They will not expect any grester form of courtesy be shown to tben by Males than those Males would show to other Males in a similar situation.

3. Any special Rights or Privileges granted to females by society will be withheld from them

If they want to be one of the bots and play with the bots, they have to play by the same rules as the boys.

 

[WinterBorn]

But let's not get sidetracked by that. Your claiming to not know any strong, independent women does, in fact, speak volumes. Unless you are talking physical strength, you are either lying or are willfully ignorant. Do you know any single mothers who work and raise children?

Not that I can think of. I see them in the store checkout sometimes with their food stamp cards. But I don't really know them. Sometimes I see the grandmother, mother and already knockup grandchild in line together. All three with food stamps.
The new matriarchy! It's going to really make for nice stable families!

You need to get out more. I know plenty of single women raising children and supporting the household. And they do so without gov't assistance. But I can see why you would say you don't know any. That would mess up your narrative.

What is wrong with a woman wanting to be independent? Why is that so bad, in your mind?

Comprehension problems once again. I was speaking of, and the article concentrated on, Hollywood vitriol towards femininity in favor of feminism and the fact that this hatred is starting to become medically observable.
Dont project. It is you who conflated femininity and dependence. You who see an article on masculine women and decide to take that as "independent" women.

No, I see it as people deciding for themselves who they want to be.

You, on the otherhand, want females to conform to YOUR ideas of what they should be.