The glaring evidence that Obamacare is a catastrophic FAILURE continues to mount

[PMZ]

No, you don't. You want to force them to buy health insurance.

Why do you keep trying to speak for me?

I said that I expect them to pay for their own health care!

Are you no longer claiming that as justification for forcing them to buy health insurance? If you've changed your mind, that's great!

You are a bizarre thinker.

 

[PMZ]

You were doing okay right up to the part in bold above.
Here is a link to a website that lists 1000 current openings for positions that pay more than 100k a year ... And it is just one website.

100k Jobs, Employment | Indeed.com

Edit:
Businesses do offer well paying jobs ... And for the most part, the other three reasons are why they cannot find employees to fill them.

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You make it sound like businesses here don't benefit from a healthy economy. How weird is that? They want poor workers and wealthy customers, and they're the same people! In other words they want to benefit from other employers being smarter than they.

And then they want to blame their mess on government.

And you people fall for it every time. Yikes!

I provided you with the link to real jobs ... That pay dang good salaries ... Over a thousand of them that are current and just one website.

They are all empty ... And it isn't because they cannot find cheap employees.
It is because they don't teach people how to think in school anymore ... They teach them what to think, and a social agenda ... While that kind of thinking isn't innovative, and doesn't produce acceptable results.
It is because society excuses people's failures ... Doesn't expect people to excel anymore ... Makes it easier on people who put out minimal effort.
The ACA, the minimum wage ... And all the other garbage the Progressive Liberals promote now is in lieu of the fact that Democrats can no longer get away with straight over the counter handouts.

They have to find another way to keep supporting their voter base on the backs of the successful ... And when they cannot tax businesses any further to give away money to their voters ... They will still put it in their hand with minimum wage.

If anyone is fooling themselves ... it is you.
You cannot argue with the open jobs that pay far more than minimum wage ... And the absence of warm bodies to fill them.
You and your kind are failing your fellow citizens ... And nine times out of ten it is under the guise of attempting to help them.

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"It is because they don't teach people how to think in school anymore ... They teach them what to think, and a social agenda ... While that kind of thinking isn't innovative, and doesn't produce acceptable results."

Certainly you are a classic example of what you claim.

The essence of conservatism is, when faced with a problem or opportunity, do nothing. Unless you can find a way to do less. Than do that.

There is no creativity required to do that. There is only that one rule of thumb. Don't go near problems, you'll just make them worst.

Don't invest in anything because there is always risk. If you take a risk you will always lose.

If you have a chance, take. Take as much and as long as you can. Take from whoever you can.

There is no tomorrow, only today.

Most importantly, don't think for yourself. Stay in line. Goose step just like the guy on your right, just like the guy on your left.

America flirted with conservatism. We lost big time. Most of us learned. Some of us can't. Those are the conservatives who never learned to learn.

 

[dblack]

Why do you keep trying to speak for me?

I said that I expect them to pay for their own health care!

Are you no longer claiming that as justification for forcing them to buy health insurance? If you've changed your mind, that's great!

You are a bizarre thinker.

No, you're being deliberately evasive and I'm mocking you for it. Sorry. You're trying to pretend that you support the individual mandate to promote 'responsibility', which I've shown to be hypocritical nonsense. You want to force others to buy insurance to keep your premiums down. Others defending ACA are at least honest enough to admit that.

 

[skookerasbil]

The whole Ponzi scheme is collapsing..........and Im laughing!!!

 

[skookerasbil]

You make it sound like businesses here don't benefit from a healthy economy. How weird is that? They want poor workers and wealthy customers, and they're the same people! In other words they want to benefit from other employers being smarter than they.

And then they want to blame their mess on government.

And you people fall for it every time. Yikes!

I provided you with the link to real jobs ... That pay dang good salaries ... Over a thousand of them that are current and just one website.

They are all empty ... And it isn't because they cannot find cheap employees.
It is because they don't teach people how to think in school anymore ... They teach them what to think, and a social agenda ... While that kind of thinking isn't innovative, and doesn't produce acceptable results.
It is because society excuses people's failures ... Doesn't expect people to excel anymore ... Makes it easier on people who put out minimal effort.
The ACA, the minimum wage ... And all the other garbage the Progressive Liberals promote now is in lieu of the fact that Democrats can no longer get away with straight over the counter handouts.

They have to find another way to keep supporting their voter base on the backs of the successful ... And when they cannot tax businesses any further to give away money to their voters ... They will still put it in their hand with minimum wage.

If anyone is fooling themselves ... it is you.
You cannot argue with the open jobs that pay far more than minimum wage ... And the absence of warm bodies to fill them.
You and your kind are failing your fellow citizens ... And nine times out of ten it is under the guise of attempting to help them.

.

"It is because they don't teach people how to think in school anymore ... They teach them what to think, and a social agenda ... While that kind of thinking isn't innovative, and doesn't produce acceptable results."

Certainly you are a classic example of what you claim.

The essence of conservatism is, when faced with a problem or opportunity, do nothing. Unless you can find a way to do less. Than do that.

There is no creativity required to do that. There is only that one rule of thumb. Don't go near problems, you'll just make them worst.

Don't invest in anything because there is always risk. If you take a risk you will always lose.

If you have a chance, take. Take as much and as long as you can. Take from whoever you can.

There is no tomorrow, only today.

Most importantly, don't think for yourself. Stay in line. Goose step just like the guy on your right, just like the guy on your left.

America flirted with conservatism. We lost big time. Most of us learned. Some of us can't. Those are the conservatives who never learned to learn.

Oh......ok......

 

[BlackSand]

You make it sound like businesses here don't benefit from a healthy economy. How weird is that? They want poor workers and wealthy customers, and they're the same people! In other words they want to benefit from other employers being smarter than they.

And then they want to blame their mess on government.

And you people fall for it every time. Yikes!

I provided you with the link to real jobs ... That pay dang good salaries ... Over a thousand of them that are current and just one website.

They are all empty ... And it isn't because they cannot find cheap employees.
It is because they don't teach people how to think in school anymore ... They teach them what to think, and a social agenda ... While that kind of thinking isn't innovative, and doesn't produce acceptable results.
It is because society excuses people's failures ... Doesn't expect people to excel anymore ... Makes it easier on people who put out minimal effort.
The ACA, the minimum wage ... And all the other garbage the Progressive Liberals promote now is in lieu of the fact that Democrats can no longer get away with straight over the counter handouts.

They have to find another way to keep supporting their voter base on the backs of the successful ... And when they cannot tax businesses any further to give away money to their voters ... They will still put it in their hand with minimum wage.

If anyone is fooling themselves ... it is you.
You cannot argue with the open jobs that pay far more than minimum wage ... And the absence of warm bodies to fill them.
You and your kind are failing your fellow citizens ... And nine times out of ten it is under the guise of attempting to help them.

.

"It is because they don't teach people how to think in school anymore ... They teach them what to think, and a social agenda ... While that kind of thinking isn't innovative, and doesn't produce acceptable results."

Certainly you are a classic example of what you claim.

The essence of conservatism is, when faced with a problem or opportunity, do nothing. Unless you can find a way to do less. Than do that.

There is no creativity required to do that. There is only that one rule of thumb. Don't go near problems, you'll just make them worst.

Don't invest in anything because there is always risk. If you take a risk you will always lose.

If you have a chance, take. Take as much and as long as you can. Take from whoever you can.

There is no tomorrow, only today.

Most importantly, don't think for yourself. Stay in line. Goose step just like the guy on your right, just like the guy on your left.

America flirted with conservatism. We lost big time. Most of us learned. Some of us can't. Those are the conservatives who never learned to learn.

So in other words ... You don't really disagree with anything I said ... Other than the difference in what the two of us believe is productive thinking.

In the business world where innovation is key ... It doesn't have anything to do with Socialism versus Conservatism.
That is why there are empty jobs that pay so much money ... And you are silly enough to talk about people not earning a decent wage.

If what you offered them was what they needed to succeed ... Then we wouldn't be having this discussion ... And I am not surprised you cannot understand that.

.

 

[PMZ]

Are you no longer claiming that as justification for forcing them to buy health insurance? If you've changed your mind, that's great!

You are a bizarre thinker.

No, you're being deliberately evasive and I'm mocking you for it. Sorry. You're trying to pretend that you support the individual mandate to promote 'responsibility', which I've shown to be hypocritical nonsense. You want to force others to buy insurance to keep your premiums down. Others defending ACA are at least honest enough to admit that.

You've shown nothing except confusion. Hypocritical nonsense is not wanting to pay for other people's health care but not wanted to prevent it.

Also preaching that avoiding responsibility is the same as assuming it.

 

[PMZ]

I provided you with the link to real jobs ... That pay dang good salaries ... Over a thousand of them that are current and just one website.

They are all empty ... And it isn't because they cannot find cheap employees.
It is because they don't teach people how to think in school anymore ... They teach them what to think, and a social agenda ... While that kind of thinking isn't innovative, and doesn't produce acceptable results.
It is because society excuses people's failures ... Doesn't expect people to excel anymore ... Makes it easier on people who put out minimal effort.
The ACA, the minimum wage ... And all the other garbage the Progressive Liberals promote now is in lieu of the fact that Democrats can no longer get away with straight over the counter handouts.

They have to find another way to keep supporting their voter base on the backs of the successful ... And when they cannot tax businesses any further to give away money to their voters ... They will still put it in their hand with minimum wage.

If anyone is fooling themselves ... it is you.
You cannot argue with the open jobs that pay far more than minimum wage ... And the absence of warm bodies to fill them.
You and your kind are failing your fellow citizens ... And nine times out of ten it is under the guise of attempting to help them.

.

"It is because they don't teach people how to think in school anymore ... They teach them what to think, and a social agenda ... While that kind of thinking isn't innovative, and doesn't produce acceptable results."

Certainly you are a classic example of what you claim.

The essence of conservatism is, when faced with a problem or opportunity, do nothing. Unless you can find a way to do less. Than do that.

There is no creativity required to do that. There is only that one rule of thumb. Don't go near problems, you'll just make them worst.

Don't invest in anything because there is always risk. If you take a risk you will always lose.

If you have a chance, take. Take as much and as long as you can. Take from whoever you can.

There is no tomorrow, only today.

Most importantly, don't think for yourself. Stay in line. Goose step just like the guy on your right, just like the guy on your left.

America flirted with conservatism. We lost big time. Most of us learned. Some of us can't. Those are the conservatives who never learned to learn.

So in other words ... You don't really disagree with anything I said ... Other than the difference in what the two of us believe is productive thinking.

In the business world where innovation is key ... It doesn't have anything to do with Socialism versus Conservatism.
That is why there are empty jobs that pay so much money ... And you are silly enough to talk about people not earning a decent wage.

If what you offered them was what they needed to succeed ... Then we wouldn't be having this discussion ... And I am not surprised you cannot understand that.

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You are very confused. There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate. Businesses could pay them a wage that allows them to pay for the cost of their minimal lives, but chooses not to. The consequences of that are higher taxes.

At the other end of the spectrum are highly specialized jobs where the demand exceeds the supply of qualified people. Under those circumstances there will always be jobs unfilled.

Those are not the same populations. The two problems are unrelated.

 

[BlackSand]

You are very confused. There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate. Businesses could pay them a wage that allows them to pay for the cost of their minimal lives, but chooses not to. The consequences of that are higher taxes.

At the other end of the spectrum are highly specialized jobs where the demand exceeds the supply of qualified people. Under those circumstances there will always be jobs unfilled.

Those are not the same populations. The two problems are unrelated.

I am not confused at all.

The problem with your assessment is that you think it is satisfactory to leave the people in the lower group ... Without giving them the incentive, initiative or tools to get to the upper group.
Your plan, and inability to facilitate that transfer is what puts the tax burden on all of us ... Not my desire to see everyone do better and become more productive.

Just because you have given up on the fools you have generated ... Doesn't mean that I have to discard them so easily ... And If they listened to me, they wouldn't need anything from you.

.

 

[PMZ]

You are very confused. There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate. Businesses could pay them a wage that allows them to pay for the cost of their minimal lives, but chooses not to. The consequences of that are higher taxes.

At the other end of the spectrum are highly specialized jobs where the demand exceeds the supply of qualified people. Under those circumstances there will always be jobs unfilled.

Those are not the same populations. The two problems are unrelated.

I am not confused at all.

The problem with your assessment is that you think it is satisfactory to leave the people in the lower group ... Without giving them the incentive, initiative or tools to get to the upper group.
Your plan, and inability to facilitate that transfer is what puts the tax burden on all of us ... Not my desire to see everyone do better and become more productive.

Just because you have given up on the fools you have generated ... Doesn't mean that I have to discard them so easily ... And If they listened to me, they wouldn't need anything from you.

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So by your assessment, the less that business pays entry level workers, and therefore the more welfare they need, the more motivated they will be because of the attractive salaries of jobs that they're not qualified for.

I don't think so.

 

[P@triot]

The essence of conservatism is, when faced with a problem or opportunity, do nothing. Unless you can find a way to do less. Than do that.

Sadly, the essence of liberalism is: feign a problem. See a problem where no problem actually exists. Lie to create problems. And do all of it so you can force someone else to pay your way through life. You first statement right here is a prime example. You completely and knowningly lie about conservatism. That's to create a problem. You want to create the problem that conservatism is a problem.

The essence of conservatism is: if you have a problem, solve it yourself. The government does not exist because you are too lazy to do for yourself.

There is no creativity required to do that. There is only that one rule of thumb. Don't go near problems, you'll just make them worst.

Why do you want creativity for the sake of creativity? Furthermore, history has proven that government (especially under Dumbocrats) has made everything exponentially worse. $17 trillion son - enough said!

Don't invest in anything because there is always risk. If you take a risk you will always lose.

Actually, conservatives are the king of investing. The difference is, they invest (ie take risk) with their money. While parasites like you want to invest (ie take risk) with other people's money. You want to take my money and then risk it. Sorry, just proves what an idiot you are. If you want to take risk and invest - do it with YOUR own money.

If you have a chance, take. Take as much and as long as you can. Take from whoever you can.

Yes. That's called competition. The objective is to win. To win within the rules. But to win. You can't understand that being a parasite of the participation trophy mentality.

Most importantly, don't think for yourself. Stay in line. Goose step just like the guy on your right, just like the guy on your left.

You're projecting again PMZ. Everything you just said is the foundation of the liberal ideology. You've proven over and over on this thread alone that you do not think for yourself. You've literally been drowned in overwhelming evidence that Obamcare has been an unmitigated disaster. You just keep goose-stepping while toeing the party line. Remember, Adolf Hitler was left-wing oppressive socialist/stateist. It was your side that created goose-stepping. You can't blame that on conservatives no matter how hard you want to rewrite history.

America flirted with conservatism. We lost big time. Most of us learned. Some of us can't. Those are the conservatives who never learned to learn.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner-Winner-Chicken-Dinner! You just summed it all up accurately for the first time! American "flirted" with conservatism and we lost big time, because instead of going with the ONLY proven ideology that works (conservatism), we flirted with it while serving the people large doses of the failed ideology known as liberalism.

Here's the bottom line PMZ - your entire ideology has been a spectacular failure worldwide. A 100% failure rate. Socialism failed in Greece and collapsed it. Socialism failed in the U.S.S.R. and collapsed it. Socialism failed in Cuba and collapsed it. Socialism failed in Cambodia and collapsed it.

The truth is - you know it's a failed ideology and you know it will collapse the United States ($17 trillion in debt). But you don't care for two reasons. One, you're a hateful, spiteful, envious little man who wants everyone dragged down to your miserable level. Two, you would rather have the U.S. collapse while your fellow citizens are forced to pay for you than see the U.S. flourish and have to work and provide for yourself.

 

[P@triot]

There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate.

So who's fault is that PMZ? People with "minimal skills" have no one to blame but themselves. This is still the land of endless opportunity (even if you libtard Dumbocrats are trying to end that). If someone doesn't have the skill set they need, it's because they chose to spend their life getting high (like you) and expecting that someone else would pay their way (like you).

Education in this country through high school is not only FREE, it is MANDATORY. With that high school diploma, no matter how destitute you are, you can get an entry level job with any corporation in America and go to college at the expense of the company. A FREE college education as well. And then there are libraries filled with volumes of information for any profession in the world which are FREE as well. And then, even more jaw dropping that libraries, is the endless volumes of FREE information on the internet for any profession in the world as well.

Game. Set. Match. You lose...

 

[P@triot]

You are very confused. There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate. Businesses could pay them a wage that allows them to pay for the cost of their minimal lives, but chooses not to. The consequences of that are higher taxes.

PMZ displaying his extraordinary ignorance once again. Businesses paying low wages has not lead to higher taxes. Dumbocrat higher taxes has lead to businesses paying lower wages.

Dumbocrats have made it so that it's nearly impossibly for a business to stay in business. And that's exactly what the Dumbocrats want. To punish business owners for their success.

In their infinite stupidity though, they fail to realize that successful people are successful because they know how to meet challenges and over come adversity. So business owners see they are not welcomed in the U.S. and they ship jobs overseas to nations that do welcome them. As always, the result is the American people pay the ultimate price for Dumbocrat policy - poverty, failure, and misery. It always ends the same with the left.

 

[PMZ]

The essence of conservatism is, when faced with a problem or opportunity, do nothing. Unless you can find a way to do less. Than do that.

Sadly, the essence of liberalism is: feign a problem. See a problem where no problem actually exists. Lie to create problems. And do all of it so you can force someone else to pay your way through life. You first statement right here is a prime example. You completely and knowningly lie about conservatism. That's to create a problem. You want to create the problem that conservatism is a problem.

The essence of conservatism is: if you have a problem, solve it yourself. The government does not exist because you are too lazy to do for yourself.

There is no creativity required to do that. There is only that one rule of thumb. Don't go near problems, you'll just make them worst.

Why do you want creativity for the sake of creativity? Furthermore, history has proven that government (especially under Dumbocrats) has made everything exponentially worse. $17 trillion son - enough said!



Actually, conservatives are the king of investing. The difference is, they invest (ie take risk) with their money. While parasites like you want to invest (ie take risk) with other people's money. You want to take my money and then risk it. Sorry, just proves what an idiot you are. If you want to take risk and invest - do it with YOUR own money.



Yes. That's called competition. The objective is to win. To win within the rules. But to win. You can't understand that being a parasite of the participation trophy mentality.

Most importantly, don't think for yourself. Stay in line. Goose step just like the guy on your right, just like the guy on your left.

You're projecting again PMZ. Everything you just said is the foundation of the liberal ideology. You've proven over and over on this thread alone that you do not think for yourself. You've literally been drowned in overwhelming evidence that Obamcare has been an unmitigated disaster. You just keep goose-stepping while toeing the party line. Remember, Adolf Hitler was left-wing oppressive socialist/stateist. It was your side that created goose-stepping. You can't blame that on conservatives no matter how hard you want to rewrite history.

America flirted with conservatism. We lost big time. Most of us learned. Some of us can't. Those are the conservatives who never learned to learn.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner-Winner-Chicken-Dinner! You just summed it all up accurately for the first time! American "flirted" with conservatism and we lost big time, because instead of going with the ONLY proven ideology that works (conservatism), we flirted with it while serving the people large doses of the failed ideology known as liberalism.

Here's the bottom line PMZ - your entire ideology has been a spectacular failure worldwide. A 100% failure rate. Socialism failed in Greece and collapsed it. Socialism failed in the U.S.S.R. and collapsed it. Socialism failed in Cuba and collapsed it. Socialism failed in Cambodia and collapsed it.

The truth is - you know it's a failed ideology and you know it will collapse the United States ($17 trillion in debt). But you don't care for two reasons. One, you're a hateful, spiteful, envious little man who wants everyone dragged down to your miserable level. Two, you would rather have the U.S. collapse while your fellow citizens are forced to pay for you than see the U.S. flourish and have to work and provide for yourself.

So if 300,000,000 have a problem, you expect 300,000,000 different solutions. Bizarre.

"One, you're a hateful, spiteful, envious little man who wants everyone dragged down to your miserable level. Two, you would rather have the U.S. collapse while your fellow citizens are forced to pay for you than see the U.S. flourish and have to work and provide for yourself."

The essence of propaganda. Scapegoating.

 

[P@triot]

There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate. Businesses could pay them a wage that allows them to pay for the cost of their minimal lives, but chooses not to. The consequences of that are higher taxes.

Perhaps you could clarify this statement? How/Why are the wages paid by business directly connected to taxes and what makes that connection increase the taxes instead of decreasing the taxes?

 

[PMZ]

There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate.

So who's fault is that PMZ? People with "minimal skills" have no one to blame but themselves. This is still the land of endless opportunity (even if you libtard Dumbocrats are trying to end that). If someone doesn't have the skill set they need, it's because they chose to spend their life getting high (like you) and expecting that someone else would pay their way (like you).

Education in this country through high school is not only FREE, it is MANDATORY. With that high school diploma, no matter how destitute you are, you can get an entry level job with any corporation in America and go to college at the expense of the company. A FREE college education as well. And then there are libraries filled with volumes of information for any profession in the world which are FREE as well. And then, even more jaw dropping that libraries, is the endless volumes of FREE information on the internet for any profession in the world as well.

Game. Set. Match. You lose...

Another conservative myth. There is no unemployment.

Let me ask, how come you're not wealthier than Bill Gates? You just too lazy?

 

[PMZ]

The essence of conservatism is, when faced with a problem or opportunity, do nothing. Unless you can find a way to do less. Than do that.

Sadly, the essence of liberalism is: feign a problem. See a problem where no problem actually exists. Lie to create problems. And do all of it so you can force someone else to pay your way through life. You first statement right here is a prime example. You completely and knowningly lie about conservatism. That's to create a problem. You want to create the problem that conservatism is a problem.

The essence of conservatism is: if you have a problem, solve it yourself. The government does not exist because you are too lazy to do for yourself.

There is no creativity required to do that. There is only that one rule of thumb. Don't go near problems, you'll just make them worst.

Why do you want creativity for the sake of creativity? Furthermore, history has proven that government (especially under Dumbocrats) has made everything exponentially worse. $17 trillion son - enough said!



Actually, conservatives are the king of investing. The difference is, they invest (ie take risk) with their money. While parasites like you want to invest (ie take risk) with other people's money. You want to take my money and then risk it. Sorry, just proves what an idiot you are. If you want to take risk and invest - do it with YOUR own money.



Yes. That's called competition. The objective is to win. To win within the rules. But to win. You can't understand that being a parasite of the participation trophy mentality.

Most importantly, don't think for yourself. Stay in line. Goose step just like the guy on your right, just like the guy on your left.

You're projecting again PMZ. Everything you just said is the foundation of the liberal ideology. You've proven over and over on this thread alone that you do not think for yourself. You've literally been drowned in overwhelming evidence that Obamcare has been an unmitigated disaster. You just keep goose-stepping while toeing the party line. Remember, Adolf Hitler was left-wing oppressive socialist/stateist. It was your side that created goose-stepping. You can't blame that on conservatives no matter how hard you want to rewrite history.

America flirted with conservatism. We lost big time. Most of us learned. Some of us can't. Those are the conservatives who never learned to learn.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner-Winner-Chicken-Dinner! You just summed it all up accurately for the first time! American "flirted" with conservatism and we lost big time, because instead of going with the ONLY proven ideology that works (conservatism), we flirted with it while serving the people large doses of the failed ideology known as liberalism.

Here's the bottom line PMZ - your entire ideology has been a spectacular failure worldwide. A 100% failure rate. Socialism failed in Greece and collapsed it. Socialism failed in the U.S.S.R. and collapsed it. Socialism failed in Cuba and collapsed it. Socialism failed in Cambodia and collapsed it.

The truth is - you know it's a failed ideology and you know it will collapse the United States ($17 trillion in debt). But you don't care for two reasons. One, you're a hateful, spiteful, envious little man who wants everyone dragged down to your miserable level. Two, you would rather have the U.S. collapse while your fellow citizens are forced to pay for you than see the U.S. flourish and have to work and provide for yourself.

No question. Delusion of the year. If you elect people that drag your country to the lowest point that it's ever been, and they do that in only eight years, elect them again.

This passes for intelligence in the conservative cult.

 

[P@triot]

There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate. Businesses could pay them a wage that allows them to pay for the cost of their minimal lives, but chooses not to. The consequences of that are higher taxes.

In the history of this nation [MENTION=43872]PMZ[/MENTION], there has never been a single business that didn't pay a "living wage". Never. It has never happened.

The problem comes in the parasite (such as you) definition of "living wage". You believe you are entitled to a $700 iPhone, a $700 iPad, and $3,000 plasma tv, a $65,000 BMW, and a $400,000 home, among other things because you've seen other people with them. What you haven't seen is the work they had to put in to achieve those things.

If you weren't so greedy and lazy, you would realize that the lowest minimum wage job at McDonald's provides more than enough "living wage" in America. And it comes with tremendous perks such as college tuition to better yourself and become whatever you want to become. But a McDonald's minimum wage requires that you forgo the iPhone, the iPad, the plasma tv, the BMW, and the large home for paying your necessities such as food, health insurance, and utilities.

In summary - you want to put in the effort and hours of a minimum wage worker, live like a skilled and hard working executive, and have your fellow tax payer pick up the large gap left over.

 

[RKMBrown]

There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate. Businesses could pay them a wage that allows them to pay for the cost of their minimal lives, but chooses not to. The consequences of that are higher taxes.

In the history of this nation [MENTION=43872]PMZ[/MENTION], there has never been a single business that didn't pay a "living wage". Never. It has never happened.

The problem comes in the parasite (such as you) definition of "living wage". You believe you are entitled to a $700 iPhone, a $700 iPad, and $3,000 plasma tv, a $65,000 BMW, and a $400,000 home, among other things because you've seen other people with them. What you haven't seen is the work they had to put in to achieve those things.

If you weren't so greedy and lazy, you would realize that the lowest minimum wage job at McDonald's provides more than enough "living wage" in America. And it comes with tremendous perks such as college tuition to better yourself and become whatever you want to become. But a McDonald's minimum wage requires that you forgo the iPhone, the iPad, the plasma tv, the BMW, and the large home for paying your necessities such as food, health insurance, and utilities.

In summary - you want to put in the effort and hours of a minimum wage worker, live like a skilled and hard working executive, and have your fellow tax payer pick up the large gap left over.

Never is a long time. The problem is the folks were are required to read Grapes of Wrath in HS.

 

[PMZ]

There are jobs that can be done by people with relatively little education and minimal skills. In other words, people who apply for them are not in a good position to negotiate. Businesses could pay them a wage that allows them to pay for the cost of their minimal lives, but chooses not to. The consequences of that are higher taxes.

In the history of this nation [MENTION=43872]PMZ[/MENTION], there has never been a single business that didn't pay a "living wage". Never. It has never happened.

The problem comes in the parasite (such as you) definition of "living wage". You believe you are entitled to a $700 iPhone, a $700 iPad, and $3,000 plasma tv, a $65,000 BMW, and a $400,000 home, among other things because you've seen other people with them. What you haven't seen is the work they had to put in to achieve those things.

If you weren't so greedy and lazy, you would realize that the lowest minimum wage job at McDonald's provides more than enough "living wage" in America. And it comes with tremendous perks such as college tuition to better yourself and become whatever you want to become. But a McDonald's minimum wage requires that you forgo the iPhone, the iPad, the plasma tv, the BMW, and the large home for paying your necessities such as food, health insurance, and utilities.

In summary - you want to put in the effort and hours of a minimum wage worker, live like a skilled and hard working executive, and have your fellow tax payer pick up the large gap left over.

Never is a long time. The problem is the folks were are required to read Grapes of Wrath in HS.

Yes. If we employ censorship, we will be free.