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Depends on the worker no? In my experience people who are given something for no effort, usually don't appreciate the thing.Oh and people who are paid decently work harder than people who are paid shitty.How does it not justify it? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? You're talking about borderline slavery here dude.
And no, it is far from fuzzy. It based off tangible ideas like inflation, cost of living rates, and prices of goods and services.
so we force a person to work at McDonalds? We force them to screw up their life in such a way that a low paying job is the only thing available?
If a person is paid more than the value they add to something, one of two things has to happen, either the price of that something goes up, negating any increase they get in wages, or the company has to cut something to make the something still viable. The outside option is the something isn't done anymore, and everyone loses their job.
Nice non-response to my questions.
A minimum wage worker at $7 an hour suddenly gets all motivated at $10 an hour??? Really???
Pay raises can be vital to a Worker's performance and productivity. And Corporations have become despicably stingy. So yes, at $10 an hour you will likely have a more motivated productive worker.
I have you two separate responses.Oh and people who are paid decently work harder than people who are paid shitty.How does it not justify it? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? You're talking about borderline slavery here dude.If a worker is working as many hours a week they are allowed and are doing their job well, why wouldn't they deserve a liveable wage?
because what they are doing does not add enough value to the product or service provided to justify it. and of all the terms "livable wage" is the fuzziest of them all.
And no, it is far from fuzzy. It based off tangible ideas like inflation, cost of living rates, and prices of goods and services.
so we force a person to work at McDonalds? We force them to screw up their life in such a way that a low paying job is the only thing available?
If a person is paid more than the value they add to something, one of two things has to happen, either the price of that something goes up, negating any increase they get in wages, or the company has to cut something to make the something still viable. The outside option is the something isn't done anymore, and everyone loses their job.
Nice non-response to my questions.
A minimum wage worker at $7 an hour suddenly gets all motivated at $10 an hour??? Really???
No it won't. You are omitting the fact that businesses are competitive. You pay a guy $4/hr and he can't eat so he leaves and works for your competitor for a decent wage.But without a minimum wage, what is to stop ANY employer from paying their employees 2.00 an hour. I know you'll say "well the skilled, experienced workers won't get 2.00/h", but what if the employer's idea of "more" is 4 or 5? What the fuck is stopping employers from doing that? I don't give a shit if an employer is liberal or conservative. That is what will happen.
If the job requires any skill at all the tightwad will have a massive turnover and training problem with lots of unhappy customers. People want a good price but will quickly flee from the lower priced product or service once they realize it's crap.
I have you two separate responses.Oh and people who are paid decently work harder than people who are paid shitty.How does it not justify it? Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? You're talking about borderline slavery here dude.because what they are doing does not add enough value to the product or service provided to justify it. and of all the terms "livable wage" is the fuzziest of them all.
And no, it is far from fuzzy. It based off tangible ideas like inflation, cost of living rates, and prices of goods and services.
so we force a person to work at McDonalds? We force them to screw up their life in such a way that a low paying job is the only thing available?
If a person is paid more than the value they add to something, one of two things has to happen, either the price of that something goes up, negating any increase they get in wages, or the company has to cut something to make the something still viable. The outside option is the something isn't done anymore, and everyone loses their job.
Nice non-response to my questions.
A minimum wage worker at $7 an hour suddenly gets all motivated at $10 an hour??? Really???
I'm close to being in business for three decades. How about you? I'm guessing ZERO.Businesses don't "compete," they collude.
I'm close to being in business for three decades. How about you? I'm guessing ZERO.Businesses don't "compete," they collude.
What the market will bear. A rising economy moves the bar up.What do you think a fair & decent wage is? Just curious.
What the market will bear. A rising economy moves the bar up.What do you think a fair & decent wage is? Just curious.
I'm close to being in business for three decades. How about you? I'm guessing ZERO.Businesses don't "compete," they collude.
I'm curious why you need somebody else to explain what everybody else needs to life on? What living conditions would you allow them to have?That hasn't been proven to be the case. Wages have been steadily decreasing for years. So decide on a number. What do you think an average American can survive on? I'm just curious.What the market will bear. A rising economy moves the bar up.What do you think a fair & decent wage is? Just curious.
The relevance was 100%. The fact that you speak about shit you know nothing about is the problem. Being a dependent doesn't qualify nor do your wild emotions mean anything to me.Relevance to the point? ZEROI'm close to being in business for three decades. How about you? I'm guessing ZERO.Businesses don't "compete," they collude.
I was raised by small businesspeople: fed, clothed, and sheltered by the labor my father took a small business loan out every winter to see to it that those who did so much for MY family could do the same for their own. It's a little something called reciprocity, something that died with my father's generation. You would never understand my admiration for my father, and never comprehend the disgust I hold for people like you.
The relevance was 100%. The fact that you speak about shit you know nothing about is the problem. Being a dependent doesn't qualify nor do your wild emotions mean anything to me.Relevance to the point? ZEROI'm close to being in business for three decades. How about you? I'm guessing ZERO.Businesses don't "compete," they collude.
I was raised by small businesspeople: fed, clothed, and sheltered by the labor my father took a small business loan out every winter to see to it that those who did so much for MY family could do the same for their own. It's a little something called reciprocity, something that died with my father's generation. You would never understand my admiration for my father, and never comprehend the disgust I hold for people like you.
SO when Republicans get elected they need to go along with Democrats otherwise it's over reach.
When Democrats get elected they are carrying out hte will of the people because they have a mandate.
Very convenient.
The truth is the GOP is going to roll over the Democrats and show them how adults get things done.
Really? You are as clueless as some of the leaders in the GOP. I will admit that both sides overreach when given the chance. the Dems have done it and the Reps have done it. But don't you think that sooner or later one of the parties would learn? The GOP has the most to lose here. The number coming to the voting booth are not in their favor in the future.
In other words...white people are becoming a minority.
Democrats have become a threat to this country like no time before in our history. The GOP was sent to cut spending and instead increased spending. Which is more of an overreach?
They need to DEFUND Obama and all these government Agencies who now thinks they are a government themselves and can write laws and regulations on their own
Call your Representatives folks
It depends. If the gop can paint Obama's veto as a refusal to compromise, it'll hurt Hill. Whackadoodle stuff, like privatizing medicare or Soc Sec, which the gop rountinely gets politically smacked for falling into, will not accomplish that. However, we have an opportunity to fix corp taxes and some aspects of Obamacare. The fact that Boehner apparently lacks the stones to pass immigration reform is ... disappointing, and I expect Obama will hit the gop over the head with it.
Poor Barb. Letting her ass do the talking.The relevance was 100%. The fact that you speak about shit you know nothing about is the problem. Being a dependent doesn't qualify nor do your wild emotions mean anything to me.Relevance to the point? ZEROI'm close to being in business for three decades. How about you? I'm guessing ZERO.Businesses don't "compete," they collude.
I was raised by small businesspeople: fed, clothed, and sheltered by the labor my father took a small business loan out every winter to see to it that those who did so much for MY family could do the same for their own. It's a little something called reciprocity, something that died with my father's generation. You would never understand my admiration for my father, and never comprehend the disgust I hold for people like you.
I did their books, ass wipe. My mom is still living handsomely from the proceeds. You have ZERO relevance to anything I have experienced. My emotions have nothing to do with what I've contributed to the conversation, although my take on your contribution, based on first hand experience, is that you're talking out your ass.
