The GOP fought to delay ACA by a year and lost. Will Obama do it anyway?

I like how the 'nuts are pretending that the GOP wanted to delay the mandate in order to make sure its implementation went smoothly.

I love how you have hallucinatory episodes yourself, no on ever said that king of the strawman....
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LOL, wake up Corky.

No one ever said that? Except maybe, for starters, the author of this thread:

"...parroting the very thing the GOP just fought for because of all the problems implementing the law..."

jeezus how do you people survive from day to day?
 
Right wing reactionary "Speculation is that currently only the sick are signing up for it while the healthy sit on the sidelines opting to pay the fine instead" with no evidence at all.

Got that fixed.
 
I like how the 'nuts are pretending that the GOP wanted to delay the mandate in order to make sure its implementation went smoothly.

I love how you have hallucinatory episodes yourself, no on ever said that king of the strawman....

they wanted to defund becasue it sucks, then day 2 of the shutdown they changed it to a suspension for a year.....

either way, hubristic obstinacy will come back to bite him in the ass and deservedly so, hes not a politician and he doesn't have any with him either, its all about the politics of the moment, one fire to the next with no thought for the future.

he could have had his cake an eaten it to ( just waiting a little longer to taste it) , but just an appearance of the gop getting anything, put a stop to that, well, here ya go, eat up.


Indeed. And this is where the GOP made a huge mistake in trying to delay O-Care.

In this case, the best disinfectant is sunlight. Let everyone behold the truly galactic, putrid, corrupt horror that ObamaCare truly is.

yup, a highs stakes game, BUT, they too can recover some of their image if indeed obama has to delay, thats exactly why he won't......

on the off chance he does, this thing will die, I think he knows that too, unless hillary picks up the mantle, if obama delays until say 2015, they can rework and resurrect their media zombies and do it all over again, beat up the gop nominee who wants to kill healthcare fo' da po' peeps.....
 
If the roll-out is going as badly as suggested, isn't that the result that the GOP and their backers have spent mega-bucks shooting for?
Ads with scary Uncle Sams and buses carting opponents around the country to rallies are just two examples.
Wringing your hands and expressing dismay and concern that sign-ups aren't happening at a satisfactory rate is disingenuous.
 
If the roll-out is going as badly as suggested, isn't that the result that the GOP and their backers have spent mega-bucks shooting for?
Ads with scary Uncle Sams and buses carting opponents around the country to rallies are just two examples.
Wringing your hands and expressing dismay and concern that sign-ups aren't happening at a satisfactory rate is disingenuous.


Pathetic spin.

The roll out is going badly because Obama mismanaged the IT development and implementation...and the entire thing is a Ponzi scheme to transfer income from the young and healthy to old boomers and Big Government Cronies.
 
I like how the 'nuts are pretending that the GOP wanted to delay the mandate in order to make sure its implementation went smoothly.

I love how you have hallucinatory episodes yourself, no on ever said that king of the strawman....
.

LOL, wake up Corky.

No one ever said that? Except maybe, for starters, the author of this thread:

"...parroting the very thing the GOP just fought for because of all the problems implementing the law..."

jeezus how do you people survive from day to day?

they for defunding becasue its sux ( hint; I said that) and then dropped their demand to a suspension....( hint; I said that too)....
 
If the roll-out is going as badly as suggested, isn't that the result that the GOP and their backers have spent mega-bucks shooting for?
Ads with scary Uncle Sams and buses carting opponents around the country to rallies are just two examples.
Wringing your hands and expressing dismay and concern that sign-ups aren't happening at a satisfactory rate is disingenuous.

so what? wanna cue the ryan pushing gramdma over the cliff? or is it unfair wherein the other side plays that game? :rolleyes:

hint; it was passed with ZERO votes from the opposite party....I'd say thats fairly well known....
 
I like how the 'nuts are pretending that the GOP wanted to delay the mandate in order to make sure its implementation went smoothly.

I love how you have hallucinatory episodes yourself, no on ever said that king of the strawman....
.

LOL, wake up Corky.

No one ever said that? Except maybe, for starters, the author of this thread:

"...parroting the very thing the GOP just fought for because of all the problems implementing the law..."

jeezus how do you people survive from day to day?

Negged for twisting shit to suit you. I NEVER said they wanted to delay it for the betterment of it and neither did they
 
We have a crazy man in the White House


I wouldn't call him crazy. Obama appears to be an amoral narcissist who is perfectly aware of what he is doing and doesn't care how it hurts people.
 
If the roll-out is going as badly as suggested, isn't that the result that the GOP and their backers have spent mega-bucks shooting for?
Ads with scary Uncle Sams and buses carting opponents around the country to rallies are just two examples.
Wringing your hands and expressing dismay and concern that sign-ups aren't happening at a satisfactory rate is disingenuous.


Pathetic spin.

The roll out is going badly because Obama mismanaged the IT development and implementation...and the entire thing is a Ponzi scheme to transfer income from the young and healthy to old boomers and Big Government Cronies.

Read what I wrote.
I never said that there was no fault on the Whitehouse side.
I said that the other side are being dishonest when they are putting so much effort into derailing the scheme.

I see that 'Ponzi scheme' is the new meme.
I assume that you understand how insurance works - repeating that meme suggests either that you don't or that you're being dishonest.
 
If the roll-out is going as badly as suggested, isn't that the result that the GOP and their backers have spent mega-bucks shooting for?
Ads with scary Uncle Sams and buses carting opponents around the country to rallies are just two examples.
Wringing your hands and expressing dismay and concern that sign-ups aren't happening at a satisfactory rate is disingenuous.

so what? wanna cue the ryan pushing gramdma over the cliff? or is it unfair wherein the other side plays that game? :rolleyes:

hint; it was passed with ZERO votes from the opposite party....I'd say thats fairly well known....

One is an enacted law, the other was a policy proposal.

I wonder, if all the money being spent on opposing this law were actually put into assisting it roll out smoothly what the result might have been?
 
So many liberal talking heads on TV are now parroting the very thing the GOP just fought for because of all the problems implementing the law. Speculation is that currently only the sick are signing up for it while the healthy sit on the sidelines opting to pay the fine instead.

Momentum is mounting for this mess to be delayed least it collapse under its own weight. What's Obama going to do and how will he explain any delays that were part of the GOP's original comprimise offer.
If the administration delayed the implementation for another year, what do they tell hundreds of thousands of people who have been signing up for insurance on the exchanges and the Medicaid expansion to begin on Jan 1st? There's really no reason why the administration should delay it and a lot reason why they shouldn't.
 
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If the roll-out is going as badly as suggested, isn't that the result that the GOP and their backers have spent mega-bucks shooting for?
Ads with scary Uncle Sams and buses carting opponents around the country to rallies are just two examples.
Wringing your hands and expressing dismay and concern that sign-ups aren't happening at a satisfactory rate is disingenuous.

so what? wanna cue the ryan pushing gramdma over the cliff? or is it unfair wherein the other side plays that game? :rolleyes:

hint; it was passed with ZERO votes from the opposite party....I'd say thats fairly well known....

One is an enacted law, the other was a policy proposal.

I wonder, if all the money being spent on opposing this law were actually put into assisting it roll out smoothly what the result might have been?


Um...the government has spent $Billions and $Billions on this Obamanation.

Much more has been spent on the horrible government exchange than was spent to develop any global technology company. Do you really think that pouring more money down this grubby crony serving cesspool would have fixed the problems?
 
If the roll-out is going as badly as suggested, isn't that the result that the GOP and their backers have spent mega-bucks shooting for?
Ads with scary Uncle Sams and buses carting opponents around the country to rallies are just two examples.
Wringing your hands and expressing dismay and concern that sign-ups aren't happening at a satisfactory rate is disingenuous.

so what? wanna cue the ryan pushing gramdma over the cliff? or is it unfair wherein the other side plays that game? :rolleyes:

hint; it was passed with ZERO votes from the opposite party....I'd say thats fairly well known....

One is an enacted law, the other was a policy proposal.

I wonder, if all the money being spent on opposing this law were actually put into assisting it roll out smoothly what the result might have been?
The law was enacted without Republican support so you have to expect that they will do everything possible to stop it. Almost all Red states have rejected the expanded Medicaid, have not created their own exchanges, and have actively worked against the implementation.
 
so what? wanna cue the ryan pushing gramdma over the cliff? or is it unfair wherein the other side plays that game? :rolleyes:

hint; it was passed with ZERO votes from the opposite party....I'd say thats fairly well known....

One is an enacted law, the other was a policy proposal.

I wonder, if all the money being spent on opposing this law were actually put into assisting it roll out smoothly what the result might have been?
The law was enacted without Republican support so you have to expect that they will do everything possible to stop it. Almost all Red states have rejected the expanded Medicaid, have not created their own exchanges, and have actively worked against the implementation.

The law was passed under the representative democratic process used in the US.
That the Republicans didn't have enough votes in Congress to stop it is a function of that process - i.e. they didn't have enough support from the American voters.
Damned inconvenient but that's, you know, the Constitution and all.

Would your argument be the same if, say, there was only one Republican in the Congress and that person didn't vote for the law?

How do the Red states justify not expanding Medicaid to their most vulnerable people?
 
One is an enacted law, the other was a policy proposal.

I wonder, if all the money being spent on opposing this law were actually put into assisting it roll out smoothly what the result might have been?
The law was enacted without Republican support so you have to expect that they will do everything possible to stop it. Almost all Red states have rejected the expanded Medicaid, have not created their own exchanges, and have actively worked against the implementation.

The law was passed under the representative democratic process used in the US.
That the Republicans didn't have enough votes in Congress to stop it is a function of that process - i.e. they didn't have enough support from the American voters.
Damned inconvenient but that's, you know, the Constitution and all.

Would your argument be the same if, say, there was only one Republican in the Congress and that person didn't vote for the law?

How do the Red states justify not expanding Medicaid to their most vulnerable people?



State governments are elected to represent the residents of said states. The governments of Red States are under no obligation to implement Blue State programs which are opposed by their constituents.
 
The law was enacted without Republican support so you have to expect that they will do everything possible to stop it. Almost all Red states have rejected the expanded Medicaid, have not created their own exchanges, and have actively worked against the implementation.

The law was passed under the representative democratic process used in the US.
That the Republicans didn't have enough votes in Congress to stop it is a function of that process - i.e. they didn't have enough support from the American voters.
Damned inconvenient but that's, you know, the Constitution and all.

Would your argument be the same if, say, there was only one Republican in the Congress and that person didn't vote for the law?

How do the Red states justify not expanding Medicaid to their most vulnerable people?



State governments are elected to represent the residents of said states. The governments of Red States are under no obligation to implement Blue State programs which are opposed by their constituents.

I thought it was a Federal program?
 
So many liberal talking heads on TV are now parroting the very thing the GOP just fought for because of all the problems implementing the law. Speculation is that currently only the sick are signing up for it while the healthy sit on the sidelines opting to pay the fine instead.

Momentum is mounting for this mess to be delayed least it collapse under its own weight. What's Obama going to do and how will he explain any delays that were part of the GOP's original comprimise offer.
If the administration delayed the implementation for another year, what do they tell hundreds of thousands of people who have been signing up for insurance on the exchanges and the Medicaid expansion to begin on Jan 1st? There's really no reason why the administration should delay it and a lot reason why they shouldn't.

You tell them "you're insured" you tell everyone else the mandate has been suspended temporarily.

It too you all that to defend stupidity and I debunked it in one sentence
 
If the roll-out is going as badly as suggested, isn't that the result that the GOP and their backers have spent mega-bucks shooting for?
Ads with scary Uncle Sams and buses carting opponents around the country to rallies are just two examples.
Wringing your hands and expressing dismay and concern that sign-ups aren't happening at a satisfactory rate is disingenuous.

so what? wanna cue the ryan pushing gramdma over the cliff? or is it unfair wherein the other side plays that game? :rolleyes:

hint; it was passed with ZERO votes from the opposite party....I'd say thats fairly well known....

One is an enacted law, the other was a policy proposal.

I wonder, if all the money being spent on opposing this law were actually put into assisting it roll out smoothly what the result might have been?

I wonder what would be if no one, opposed, anything- at all :rolleyes:
 

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