The Heartbreak of Leaving the Paris Agreement...

At any instant in time, both the CO2 in the atmosphere and the Earth's surface are radiating IR.

Shit, you don't seem to realize that diagrams like Trenberth's are instantaneous rates.
At any given time some vanishingly small percentage of CO2 is radiating because the time between collisions and energy transfer via that pathway is about a billion times smaller than the time it takes a CO2 molecule to absorb energy and emit a photon...and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth...the fact that there is no tropospheric hot spot confirms that fact. Were CO2 capable of the magic that you warmer wackos believe it has, then there would be an ever growing, ever warming hot spot at the top of the troposphere....there isn't because the mechanism you believe to exist....doesn't.
 
Days later and Im still celebrating...........especially to see how pissed the EU is, especially Germany. Fuck those asshole globalists over there. That Trump poked them square in the eyeballs is hysterical to me.:2up:
 
At any instant in time, both the CO2 in the atmosphere and the Earth's surface are radiating IR.

Shit, you don't seem to realize that diagrams like Trenberth's are instantaneous rates.
At any given time some vanishingly small percentage of CO2 is radiating because the time between collisions and energy transfer via that pathway is about a billion times smaller than the time it takes a CO2 molecule to absorb energy and emit a photon...and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth...the fact that there is no tropospheric hot spot confirms that fact. Were CO2 capable of the magic that you warmer wackos believe it has, then there would be an ever growing, ever warming hot spot at the top of the troposphere....there isn't because the mechanism you believe to exist....doesn't.

and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth..

Smart emitters!
 
At any instant in time, both the CO2 in the atmosphere and the Earth's surface are radiating IR.

Shit, you don't seem to realize that diagrams like Trenberth's are instantaneous rates.
At any given time some vanishingly small percentage of CO2 is radiating because the time between collisions and energy transfer via that pathway is about a billion times smaller than the time it takes a CO2 molecule to absorb energy and emit a photon...and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth...the fact that there is no tropospheric hot spot confirms that fact. Were CO2 capable of the magic that you warmer wackos believe it has, then there would be an ever growing, ever warming hot spot at the top of the troposphere....there isn't because the mechanism you believe to exist....doesn't.

and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth..

Smart emitters!

If the only way for you to wrap your little mind around the fact that every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics, you go right ahead and anthromorphize as much as you need to.
 
At any instant in time, both the CO2 in the atmosphere and the Earth's surface are radiating IR.

Shit, you don't seem to realize that diagrams like Trenberth's are instantaneous rates.
At any given time some vanishingly small percentage of CO2 is radiating because the time between collisions and energy transfer via that pathway is about a billion times smaller than the time it takes a CO2 molecule to absorb energy and emit a photon...and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth...the fact that there is no tropospheric hot spot confirms that fact. Were CO2 capable of the magic that you warmer wackos believe it has, then there would be an ever growing, ever warming hot spot at the top of the troposphere....there isn't because the mechanism you believe to exist....doesn't.

and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth..

Smart emitters!

If the only way for you to wrap your little mind around the fact that every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics, you go right ahead and anthromorphize as much as you need to.

every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics

Even the Sun's surface and the Sun's corona?
Shut up!
 
At any instant in time, both the CO2 in the atmosphere and the Earth's surface are radiating IR.

Shit, you don't seem to realize that diagrams like Trenberth's are instantaneous rates.
At any given time some vanishingly small percentage of CO2 is radiating because the time between collisions and energy transfer via that pathway is about a billion times smaller than the time it takes a CO2 molecule to absorb energy and emit a photon...and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth...the fact that there is no tropospheric hot spot confirms that fact. Were CO2 capable of the magic that you warmer wackos believe it has, then there would be an ever growing, ever warming hot spot at the top of the troposphere....there isn't because the mechanism you believe to exist....doesn't.

and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth..

Smart emitters!

If the only way for you to wrap your little mind around the fact that every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics, you go right ahead and anthromorphize as much as you need to.

every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics

Even the Sun's surface and the Sun's corona?
Shut up!

Been explained to you over and over sorry you don't understand. Probably no help for you.
 
At any instant in time, both the CO2 in the atmosphere and the Earth's surface are radiating IR.

Shit, you don't seem to realize that diagrams like Trenberth's are instantaneous rates.
At any given time some vanishingly small percentage of CO2 is radiating because the time between collisions and energy transfer via that pathway is about a billion times smaller than the time it takes a CO2 molecule to absorb energy and emit a photon...and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth...the fact that there is no tropospheric hot spot confirms that fact. Were CO2 capable of the magic that you warmer wackos believe it has, then there would be an ever growing, ever warming hot spot at the top of the troposphere....there isn't because the mechanism you believe to exist....doesn't.

and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth..

Smart emitters!

If the only way for you to wrap your little mind around the fact that every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics, you go right ahead and anthromorphize as much as you need to.

every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics

Even the Sun's surface and the Sun's corona?
Shut up!

Been explained to you over and over sorry you don't understand. Probably no help for you.

Been explained to you over

I know, the Sun violates your confused misunderstanding of the 2nd Law.
 
At any given time some vanishingly small percentage of CO2 is radiating because the time between collisions and energy transfer via that pathway is about a billion times smaller than the time it takes a CO2 molecule to absorb energy and emit a photon...and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth...the fact that there is no tropospheric hot spot confirms that fact. Were CO2 capable of the magic that you warmer wackos believe it has, then there would be an ever growing, ever warming hot spot at the top of the troposphere....there isn't because the mechanism you believe to exist....doesn't.

and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth..

Smart emitters!

If the only way for you to wrap your little mind around the fact that every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics, you go right ahead and anthromorphize as much as you need to.

every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics

Even the Sun's surface and the Sun's corona?
Shut up!

Been explained to you over and over sorry you don't understand. Probably no help for you.

Been explained to you over

I know, the Sun violates your confused misunderstanding of the 2nd Law.

Actually, it doesn't...which goes to the whole "you don't understand thing" which inevitably leads to the whole "probably no help for you" thing. Sorry guy. When you get an explanation that explains a thing, and is in line with the laws of physics, you can either be rational and accept it or hang on to your misunderstanding...you chose unwisely.
 
and even when they are emitting, they aren't emitting towards the warmer surface of the earth..

Smart emitters!

If the only way for you to wrap your little mind around the fact that every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics, you go right ahead and anthromorphize as much as you need to.

every thing obeys the second law of thermodynamics

Even the Sun's surface and the Sun's corona?
Shut up!

Been explained to you over and over sorry you don't understand. Probably no help for you.

Been explained to you over

I know, the Sun violates your confused misunderstanding of the 2nd Law.

Actually, it doesn't...which goes to the whole "you don't understand thing" which inevitably leads to the whole "probably no help for you" thing. Sorry guy. When you get an explanation that explains a thing, and is in line with the laws of physics, you can either be rational and accept it or hang on to your misunderstanding...you chose unwisely.

Actually, it doesn't...


I see you're still not explaining why the Sun can violate your confused version of the 2nd Law.

When you get an explanation that explains a thing

All matter above 0K emits in all directions, all the time, regardless of the presence of warmer matter nearby.
No need for smart emitters, smart photons, dimmer switches or photons that can violate causality and predict the future.
 
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I see you're still not explaining why the Sun can violate your confused version of the 2nd Law.

It has been explained to you over and over and it doesn't violate anything...you seem to become more like pee wee herman every day. Congratulations.
 
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I see you're still not explaining why the Sun can violate your confused version of the 2nd Law.

It has been explained to you over and over and it doesn't violate anything...you seem to become more like pee wee herman every day. Congratulations.

It has been explained to you over and over and it doesn't violate anything

You've said, over and over, that energy simply cannot flow from cooler matter to hotter matter.
It clearly does, from the Sun's surface to the corona.
That refutes your claim.
You've never reconciled your claim with that fact.

Congratulations. Very liberal of you.
 
What was the temperature in the Atlantic ocean in 436 BC?
 
What was the temperature in the Atlantic ocean in 436 BC?

Considerably warmer than it is at present according to this gold standard temperature reconstruction.

Lappi_Greenland_ice_core_10000yrs.jpg
 
One of the funniest things you'll see in the Enviro section is temperature reading from 1880 that are accurate to a 1/10 of a degree.
 
What was the temperature in the Atlantic ocean in 436 BC?

Considerably warmer than it is at present according to this gold standard temperature reconstruction.

Lappi_Greenland_ice_core_10000yrs.jpg
lmao! no one can tell what temps were then. you lie.

Sorry guy, but I don't...I never said what exact temperature the atlantic was, I just said that it was warmer then than it is now which we can tell by ice cores taken from above the arctic circle. We can get a pretty damned good estimate of global temperatures through those ice cores. We do know that at that time the earth was a good bit warmer than it is at present. As you can see 2400 years ago we were coming up on the Roman Warm Period and there are proxy studies from all over the earth that tell us that that particular period was warmer than the present.
 
4 billion years old. no proof from the past. Still defends it
 
4 billion years old. no proof from the past. Still defends it

Idiots believe all sorts of stuff...you want to believe that we have no idea what the climate of the past was like, go ahead and believe...believe that the climate doesn't leave a fingerprint behind...hell, believe that there was no climate if you like...but people who believe rather than having actual evidence to back themselves up are operating from a position of faith...not knowledge.
 

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