sealybobo
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- Jun 5, 2008
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Ok, who created the creator then? You want me to accept that your god character gets to defy all logic, fact, science and reason. And gets to break all the rules.Theistic arguments which assume god’s existence are logically valid.
Simply because a logically valid argument can be constructed does not imply a true premise or true conclusion.
All cups are green.
Socrates is a cup.
Therefore, Socrates is green.
Apples and oranges. Anyone can construct a fallacious syllogism precisely because the fundamental principles of logic are universally understood. Hence everybody knows what a sound syllogism looks like:
1. Socrates likes all flowers.
2. Roses are flowers.
3. Socrates likes roses.
Although the above argument is logically valid, neither its premise nor conclusion are actually true. An argument is only sound if it is valid and its premise and conclusions are true.
Hogwash!
1. That which begins to exist must have a cause of its existence.
2. The physical world began to exist.
And just like that, atheists stop believing that the incontrovertible principle of sufficient causation and the logical, mathematical and empirical ramifications thereof are true.
LOL! Suddenly like a dog they go all squirrel! and imagine that the physical world just popped into existence from an ontological nothingness.
If what you are telling me doesn't pass the scientific method then I throw it out.