The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[Soupnazi630]

MY REPLY TO A SIMPLE DENIALIST:

Jean Hill was not unsure about a shot in the car and your claim that she was is refuted by her 1971 interview.

Start at 1:48: This is an interview done in 1971 where Mrs. Hill directly admits to a shot in the car.

Roy Dennis: But ah, you do recall at least one shot from the front of the car?

Jean Hill: Yes.

Again, I know why you ignore that many people would've testified to Greer's shot because that destroys your simple denial of facts. All kinds of people reported evidence of a gunshot in or around the car. You just ignore most of the them and don't provide any other explanation besides the obvious, because there is no other logical explanation besides the driver shooting back.

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Arlen Specter told Dr. Ronald Coy Jones, ronald coy jones - Google Search

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"We have people who would testify that they saw somebody shoot the president from the front. But we don't want to interview them, and I don't want you to say anything about that, either."

December 28, 2013

By Alexander J. Marciniszyn

They didn't say anything for their own reasons and they didn't lie. It may matter to you, but not the facts that prove Greer's shot. To suggest they would've told the truth then or now is insane. It was very politically incorrect then or today. The film was altered, so anything that isn't there is because of that. Most of Greer's shot remains, though.

Your denials are stupid. Anyone who believes you is stupid and willfully ignorant. You have to go against everything factual about the shooting in order to believe that what really happened didn't. What you need (facts and evidence) you'll never get.

He passed the weapon starting at frame 241. That's the handgun he used to shoot jfk.

Jean hill did not testify to or report a shot from in the car that is fact.

Your other sources provide no evidence of Greer or anyone else in the limo shooting a weapon.

Even you statement attributed to Spector is fictional.

You have no evidence

 

[7forever]

still ANOTHER fart from the NAZI whining baby troll.

No it was from you

That idiot offers nothing to the debate and I find is best ignored.

Just sayin'.

The jfk case is almost 52 years old, but I was the one to finally prove Greer's shot five years ago. Lancer's, stupid video simply ignores a ton of evidence that precedes the three frames that it champions.LOL Greer, was passing the weapon with both hands off the wheel after frame 241.

There's an answer for most things which easily refute the simple denials that you and a few others have posted. Both guns visible in the motorcade were identified by Hugh Betzner. You can only post debunked videos that omits evidence that destroys its intended dupery.

JFK Lancer

JFK: Eyewitness statements, assassination of President John F. Kennedy, murder of J. D. Tippit and arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald: Hugh William Betzner

"I heard at least two shots fired and I saw what looked like a firecracker going off in the president's car. My assumption for this was because I saw fragments going up in the air. I also saw a man in either the President's car or the car behind his and someone down in one of those cars pulled out what looked like a rifle.

I also remember seeing what looked like a nickel revolver in someone's hand in the President's car or somewhere immediately around his car. Then the President's car sped on under the underpass."

Frame 258 is the gun.

 

[Soupnazi630]

still ANOTHER fart from the NAZI whining baby troll.

No it was from you

That idiot offers nothing to the debate and I find is best ignored.

Just sayin'.

The jfk case is almost 52 years old, but I was the one to finally prove Greer's shot five years ago. Lancer's, stupid video simply ignores a ton of evidence that precedes the three frames that it champions.LOL Greer, was passing the weapon with both hands off the wheel after frame 241.

There's an answer for most things which easily refute the simple denials that you and a few others have posted. Both guns visible in the motorcade were identified by Hugh Betzner. You can only post debunked videos that omits evidence that destroys its intended dupery.

JFK Lancer

JFK: Eyewitness statements, assassination of President John F. Kennedy, murder of J. D. Tippit and arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald: Hugh William Betzner

"I heard at least two shots fired and I saw what looked like a firecracker going off in the president's car. My assumption for this was because I saw fragments going up in the air. I also saw a man in either the President's car or the car behind his and someone down in one of those cars pulled out what looked like a rifle.

I also remember seeing what looked like a nickel revolver in someone's hand in the President's car or somewhere immediately around his car. Then the President's car sped on under the underpass."

Frame 258 is the gun.

You are the one who has spent years saying that Greer shot Kennedy and failing like a complete fool to provide any evidence or proof.

No one saw Greer shot a gun or hold a gun and there is no gun in any of the frames or images as everyone who looks at them can see.

 

[7forever]

Somebody refers to a specific person and the front excludes the grassy snow job. Bill Greer, provided an ironic photo a billion times over if the picture was taken after the assassination?

The intro is posted in full on Amazon.com. Click the link below and scroll down. The shooter they would have named could've only been the driver of jfk's limousine. As a last resort click the book link to reach the introduction.

We Were There: Revelations from the Dallas Doctors Who Attended to JFK on November 22, 1963 Kindle Edition

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Alexander J. Marciniszyn was the person who wrote the short review that included that many eyewitnesses saw somebody shoot the President from the front.

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In the Introduction, on page xiii, the author writes: "Late in this project, I came upon a startling revelation in Dr. Ron Jones's oral history. After taking his Warren Commission deposition at Parkland, chief counsel Arlen Specter told Jones, 'We have people who would testify that they saw somebody shoot the president from the front. But we don't want to interview them, and I don't want you to say anything about that, either.'" Not much of a revelation to anyone who's studied the Kennedy assassination in depth. This author just throws up his hands in a "what is history and what is real or not?" kind of way at the end.

 

[Faun]

still ANOTHER fart from the NAZI whining baby troll.

No it was from you

That idiot offers nothing to the debate and I find is best ignored.

Just sayin'.

The jfk case is almost 52 years old, but I was the one to finally prove Greer's shot five years ago. Lancer's, stupid video simply ignores a ton of evidence that precedes the three frames that it champions.LOL Greer, was passing the weapon with both hands off the wheel after frame 241.

There's an answer for most things which easily refute the simple denials that you and a few others have posted. Both guns visible in the motorcade were identified by Hugh Betzner. You can only post debunked videos that omits evidence that destroys its intended dupery.

JFK Lancer

JFK: Eyewitness statements, assassination of President John F. Kennedy, murder of J. D. Tippit and arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald: Hugh William Betzner

"I heard at least two shots fired and I saw what looked like a firecracker going off in the president's car. My assumption for this was because I saw fragments going up in the air. I also saw a man in either the President's car or the car behind his and someone down in one of those cars pulled out what looked like a rifle.

I also remember seeing what looked like a nickel revolver in someone's hand in the President's car or somewhere immediately around his car. Then the President's car sped on under the underpass."

Frame 258 is the gun.

That's not a gun, you brain-dead freak of nature ... That's his hand on the steering wheel. In fact, it's his right hand. According to you (and don't forget, you're mentally retarded), Greer shot him with a gun in his left hand.

 

[7forever]

The only real difference between Tyler's transcript and mine is the word 'remember'. Roy, actual said 'recall' which means the same thing as remember. The words are clearly spoken and she answered yes, clearly.

'From the front of the car' can mean from within the car by taking out and rearranging words without adding any that weren't spoken. There could be more, but the point is made that she meant there was a shot in the President's car during the shooting.

-From the car
-The front of the car
-The car


Start at 1:48: This is an interview done in 1971 where Mrs. Hill directly admits to a shot in the car.

Roy Dennis: But ah, you do recall at least one shot from the front of the car?

Jean Hill: Yes.

Vocaroo | Voice message


Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

 

[Soupnazi630]

The only real difference between Tyler's transcript and mine is the word 'remember'. Roy, actual said 'recall' which means the same thing as remember. The words are clearly spoken and she answered yes, clearly.

'From the front of the car' can mean from within the car by taking out and rearranging words without adding any that weren't spoken. There could be more, but the point is made that she meant there was a shot in the President's car during the shooting.

-From the car
-The front of the car
-The car


Start at 1:48: This is an interview done in 1971 where Mrs. Hill directly admits to a shot in the car.

Roy Dennis: But ah, you do recall at least one shot from the front of the car?

Jean Hill: Yes.

Vocaroo | Voice message


Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

You are completely altering the meaning of what people.said are are lying to claim otherwisd.
In other words none of them.saw Greer shoot Kennedy and he did not.

Oswald did and unlike your claims the evidence proves he did

 

[daws101]

The only real difference between Tyler's transcript and mine is the word 'remember'. Roy, actual said 'recall' which means the same thing as remember. The words are clearly spoken and she answered yes, clearly.

'From the front of the car' can mean from within the car by taking out and rearranging words without adding any that weren't spoken. There could be more, but the point is made that she meant there was a shot in the President's car during the shooting.

-From the car
-The front of the car
-The car


Start at 1:48: This is an interview done in 1971 where Mrs. Hill directly admits to a shot in the car.

Roy Dennis: But ah, you do recall at least one shot from the front of the car?

Jean Hill: Yes.

Vocaroo | Voice message


Here's an email exchange between Tyler Newcomb and myself in regards to an audio interview of Jean Hill acquired by them around 1971. Tyler is working to get some of this vintage audio online. I will keep you abreast of Tyler's progress unless he starts posting himself. Below is an excerpt from Tyler's foreword in Murder from Within which was republished in 2011. Jean Hill confirms more directly in this interview that there was a shot in the front of Jfk's limo and that is just icing on top of icing at this point.

The exact quote on the tape was "Yes" when asked…"But you do remember at least one shot from the front of the car"

On Aug 4, 2013, at 1:17 PM, "." <.com> wrote:

You are completely altering the meaning of what people.said are are lying to claim otherwisd.
In other words none of them.saw Greer shoot Kennedy and he did not.

Oswald did and unlike your claims the evidence proves he did

Also 7forever's"evidence is hearsay!

 

[7forever]

The driver shot jfk with a handgun, likely a 38 service revolver fired from 6-8 feet in front of the President. The violent thrashing backward was caused by the close range shot.

John F. Kennedy Assassination Homepage :: Warren Commission :: Hearings :: Volume VI :: Page 38

This testimony and evidence leaves no doubt about Greer's close range shot with a high velocity handgun.

Dr. Mcclelland. I think even then you could make the statement that this wound could have resulted from this type bullet fired through this particular mass of soft tissue, losing that much velocity before it exited from the body. Where you would expect to see this really great hole that is left behind would be, for instance, from a very high velocity missile fired at close range with a heavy caliber bullet, such as a .45 pistol fired at close range, which would make a small entrance hole, relatively, and particularly if it entered some portion of the anatomy such as the head, where there was a sudden change in density from the brain to the skull cavity, as it entered. As it left the body, it would still have a great deal of force behind it and would blow up a large segment of tissue as it exited.

But I don't think the bullet of this nature fired from that distance and going through this large area of homogenous soft tissue would necessarily make the usual kind of exit wound like I just described, with a close range high velocity heavy caliber bullet. This is why it would be difficult to say with certainty as has been implied in some newspaper articles that quoted me, that you could tell for sure that this was an entrance or an exit wound. I think this was blown up a good deal.

"Handgun used"

2. Dr. Charles Wilbur: Dr. Charles Wilber concluded after reviewing the notes made by surgeons at Parkland Hospital, that they suggested that the head wound was made by a hand gun fired at close range.

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6. A.J. Millican: “It sounded like a .45 automatic, or a high-powered rifle.” <19WCH486>

7. S.M. Holland: “It would be like you’re firing a .38 pistol right beside a shotgun, or a .45 right beside a shotgun.”

 

[daws101]

The driver shot jfk with a handgun, likely a 38 service revolver fired from 6-8 feet in front of the President. The violent thrashing backward was caused by the close range shot.

John F. Kennedy Assassination Homepage :: Warren Commission :: Hearings :: Volume VI :: Page 38

This testimony and evidence leaves no doubt about Greer's close range shot with a high velocity handgun.

Dr. Mcclelland. I think even then you could make the statement that this wound could have resulted from this type bullet fired through this particular mass of soft tissue, losing that much velocity before it exited from the body. Where you would expect to see this really great hole that is left behind would be, for instance, from a very high velocity missile fired at close range with a heavy caliber bullet, such as a .45 pistol fired at close range, which would make a small entrance hole, relatively, and particularly if it entered some portion of the anatomy such as the head, where there was a sudden change in density from the brain to the skull cavity, as it entered. As it left the body, it would still have a great deal of force behind it and would blow up a large segment of tissue as it exited.

But I don't think the bullet of this nature fired from that distance and going through this large area of homogenous soft tissue would necessarily make the usual kind of exit wound like I just described, with a close range high velocity heavy caliber bullet. This is why it would be difficult to say with certainty as has been implied in some newspaper articles that quoted me, that you could tell for sure that this was an entrance or an exit wound. I think this was blown up a good deal.

"Handgun used"

2. Dr. Charles Wilbur: Dr. Charles Wilber concluded after reviewing the notes made by surgeons at Parkland Hospital, that they suggested that the head wound was made by a hand gun fired at close range.

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6. A.J. Millican: “It sounded like a .45 automatic, or a high-powered rifle.” <19WCH486>

7. S.M. Holland: “It would be like you’re firing a .38 pistol right beside a shotgun, or a .45 right beside a shotgun.”

More absolute bullshit!

 

[Soupnazi630]

The driver shot jfk with a handgun, likely a 38 service revolver fired from 6-8 feet in front of the President. The violent thrashing backward was caused by the close range shot.

John F. Kennedy Assassination Homepage :: Warren Commission :: Hearings :: Volume VI :: Page 38

This testimony and evidence leaves no doubt about Greer's close range shot with a high velocity handgun.

Dr. Mcclelland. I think even then you could make the statement that this wound could have resulted from this type bullet fired through this particular mass of soft tissue, losing that much velocity before it exited from the body. Where you would expect to see this really great hole that is left behind would be, for instance, from a very high velocity missile fired at close range with a heavy caliber bullet, such as a .45 pistol fired at close range, which would make a small entrance hole, relatively, and particularly if it entered some portion of the anatomy such as the head, where there was a sudden change in density from the brain to the skull cavity, as it entered. As it left the body, it would still have a great deal of force behind it and would blow up a large segment of tissue as it exited.

But I don't think the bullet of this nature fired from that distance and going through this large area of homogenous soft tissue would necessarily make the usual kind of exit wound like I just described, with a close range high velocity heavy caliber bullet. This is why it would be difficult to say with certainty as has been implied in some newspaper articles that quoted me, that you could tell for sure that this was an entrance or an exit wound. I think this was blown up a good deal.

"Handgun used"

2. Dr. Charles Wilbur: Dr. Charles Wilber concluded after reviewing the notes made by surgeons at Parkland Hospital, that they suggested that the head wound was made by a hand gun fired at close range.

Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: U.S. Secret Service involvement in the JFK assassination

6. A.J. Millican: “It sounded like a .45 automatic, or a high-powered rifle.” <19WCH486>

7. S.M. Holland: “It would be like you’re firing a .38 pistol right beside a shotgun, or a .45 right beside a shotgun.”

So one doctor said he could NOT tell if it is entrance or exit wound.

Another is ambiguous and uncertain and clearly does no more than SUGGEST a wound from a handgun and clearly states uncertainty about the size of the gun.

This is why you have no evidence.

You lie about what people say and then claim to know what they mean.

They meant what they said and not what you wish.

They did not state fact and admit that nothing they say is fact.

The evidence proves Oswald shot Kennedy and Greer did not.

That is fact which you cannot refute

 

[Soupnazi630]

Clint Hill heard Greer's revolver. He knew what it sounded like because all agents at the time were likely carrying one. Testimony Of Clinton J. Hill, Special Agent, Secret Service

Mr. HILL. This is the first sound that I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car.

He heard a gun shot he described it in a way which was not precise.

He did not hear or see Greer shoot Kennedy.

Oswald did

 

[7forever]

Clint Hill heard Greer's revolver. He knew what it sounded like because all agents at the time were likely carrying one. Testimony Of Clinton J. Hill, Special Agent, Secret Service

Mr. HILL. This is the first sound that I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Clint Hill heard Greer's revolver. He knew what it sounded like because all agents at the time were likely carrying one. Testimony Of Clinton J. Hill, Special Agent, Secret Service

Mr. HILL. This is the first sound that I heard; yes, sir. I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, ran to the Presidential limousine. Just about as I reached it, there was another sound, which was different than the first sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object--it seemed to have some type of an echo. I put my right foot, I believe it was, on the left rear step of the automobile, and I had a hold of the handgrip with my hand, when the car lurched forward. I lost my footing and I had to run about three or four more steps before I could get back up in the car.

Yes describing a sound is not witnessing a gun being fired.


Hill did not hear or see Greer shoot Kennedy.

Oswald shot Kennedy Greer did not

 

[Delta4Embassy]

It was a CIA-backed military coup. Get over it.

 

[Soupnazi630]

It was a CIA-backed military coup. Get over it.

There is no evidence of that.

Oswald acted alone , face reality

 

[LA RAM FAN]

the NAZI agent farted after your post delta.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

It was a CIA-backed military coup. Get over it.

agent dawgshit posted a laugh to your post because the truth hurts his feelings and his handlers people like you are awake to this truth.

 

[daws101]

It was a CIA-backed military coup. Get over it.

agent dawgshit posted a laugh to your post because the truth hurts his feelings and his handlers people like you are awake to this truth.

delusional as always hand JOB,, D4E is not me neither are any of the other you think are.

 

[Soupnazi630]

the NAZI agent farted after your post delta.

No you did.

There are no agents here