The killer did not use an AR-15...he used a Sig....

[Mikeoxenormous]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Sure there is. If I want one then I can buy one. The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to own the very same weapons that were used by the military's of the world. Including our own.

And based on the corruption in our government that is now demonstrated on a daily basis, they were correct in doing so.

You are partially correct. I have fixed your statement to actually reflect the 2nd Amendment:

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the newly-created government became tyrannical against its citizenry as King George had become.

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the Fundamentally Transformed government became tyrannical against its citizenry as The Messiah OBama had become.

 

[there4eyeM]

Cars with automatic transmissions are different from cars with manual transmissions.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Who gives a shit? It was an assault weapon. You get the drift.

Do you even know what an Assault weapon is?
Because it has a clip that carries over 30 rounds is that what makes it an Assault weapon?
Because it has a pistol grip does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
Because it looks like an M-16/M-4 does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
AR-15, is a single shot, semi automatic loading rifle, not selective fire assault weapon. That means you have to pull the trigger for each round to come out. Oh my it is soo scary, save me, Obama from the evil guns..
As typical of a stupid liberal(redundant statement)you have no clue about Assault weapons.

Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

For God's sakes, learn what the fuck you are talking about.

Assault weapon is a legal term
Assault rifle is a military term

An AR 15 (and similar weapons) IS an assault weapon , it is NOT an assault rifle.

You can argue all day long about whether assault weapons should be illegal, but use the correct god damned lingo.

So you are saying that a kitchen knife, a hammer, a dunk behind the wheel is an assault weapon? Anything that can be used to assault another individual is an assault weapon? Sure when you nitpick you dictionary terms then once again, it isn't the weapon doing the harm but the liberal who is wielding that weapon.

No you fucking idiot I'm saying "assault weapon" is a legal term defined by CONGRESS. It has nothing to do with anything other than what CONGRESS has defined as an assault weapon.


Criteria of an assault weapon

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

• Folding or telescoping stock
• Pistol grip
• Bayonet mount
• Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
• Grenade launcher mount

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

• Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
• Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
• Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
• Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
• A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

• Folding or telescoping stock
• Pistol grip
• Detachable magazine.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



which is NOT the same thing as an assault rifle


God damn morons all around.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Sure there is. If I want one then I can buy one. The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to own the very same weapons that were used by the military's of the world. Including our own.

And based on the corruption in our government that is now demonstrated on a daily basis, they were correct in doing so.

You are partially correct. I have fixed your statement to actually reflect the 2nd Amendment:

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the newly-created government became tyrannical against its citizenry as King George had become.

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the Fundamentally Transformed government became tyrannical against its citizenry as The Messiah OBama had become.

How has the the government been fundamentally transformed? Gun sales went up astronomically after Obama was elected. Did he try to stop it?

Where's the militia?

Answer the questions or just be a troll.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Who gives a shit? It was an assault weapon. You get the drift.

Do you even know what an Assault weapon is?
Because it has a clip that carries over 30 rounds is that what makes it an Assault weapon?
Because it has a pistol grip does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
Because it looks like an M-16/M-4 does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
AR-15, is a single shot, semi automatic loading rifle, not selective fire assault weapon. That means you have to pull the trigger for each round to come out. Oh my it is soo scary, save me, Obama from the evil guns..
As typical of a stupid liberal(redundant statement)you have no clue about Assault weapons.

Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

For God's sakes, learn what the fuck you are talking about.

Assault weapon is a legal term
Assault rifle is a military term

An AR 15 (and similar weapons) IS an assault weapon , it is NOT an assault rifle.

You can argue all day long about whether assault weapons should be illegal, but use the correct god damned lingo.

So you are saying that a kitchen knife, a hammer, a dunk behind the wheel is an assault weapon? Anything that can be used to assault another individual is an assault weapon? Sure when you nitpick you dictionary terms then once again, it isn't the weapon doing the harm but the liberal who is wielding that weapon.

No you fucking idiot I'm saying "assault weapon" is a legal term defined by CONGRESS. It has nothing to do with anything other than what CONGRESS has defined as an assault weapon.


Criteria of an assault weapon

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

• Folding or telescoping stock
• Pistol grip
• Bayonet mount
• Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
• Grenade launcher mount

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

• Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
• Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
• Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
• Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
• A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

• Folding or telescoping stock
• Pistol grip
• Detachable magazine.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



which is NOT the same thing as an assault rifle


God damn morons all around.

Is this weapon an Assault weapon?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Sure there is. If I want one then I can buy one. The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to own the very same weapons that were used by the military's of the world. Including our own.

And based on the corruption in our government that is now demonstrated on a daily basis, they were correct in doing so.

You are partially correct. I have fixed your statement to actually reflect the 2nd Amendment:

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the newly-created government became tyrannical against its citizenry as King George had become.

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the Fundamentally Transformed government became tyrannical against its citizenry as The Messiah OBama had become.

How has the the government been fundamentally transformed? Gun sales went up astronomically after Obama was elected. Did he try to stop it?

Where's the militia?

Answer the questions or just be a troll.

I guess you didn't know that Obama through his dictatorship Is allowing illegal aliens to come into the country like an invading horde? Of course not, those are future Dumbocrat voters, so turn that blind eye. Harry Ried, Nancy Pelosi, and Obama, behind closed doors illegally(not 2/3rd vote) passed the ACA FORCING upon US to first time ever purchase something we didn't want? You are soo stupid. Funny how when people die, the libidiots attack the weapon, not the liberal who used it. At this point what difference does it make that a Muslim killed 50 people and wounded 49 others while Obama and his FBI knew he was bad. Just a matter of time, and you too will be a victim of radical Islamic terrorism..

 

[westwall]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Sure there is. If I want one then I can buy one. The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to own the very same weapons that were used by the military's of the world. Including our own.

And based on the corruption in our government that is now demonstrated on a daily basis, they were correct in doing so.

You are partially correct. I have fixed your statement to actually reflect the 2nd Amendment's true intention:

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the newly-created government became tyrannical against its citizenry as King George III had become.

"A well regulated militia" is not private citizens acquiring military-style weapons to play with at the risk and peril of the general public.

Definition: "Militia: a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.""
Google

This has been argued many times over. The Founders mistrusted a standing army due to well known history of it's abuses. We are seeing how the Military Industrial Complex is doing that same thing today. The Founders ensured that the PEOPLE would have the same weaponry as any standing army so that the PEOPLE would be able to fight a tyrannical government on an equal footing. This is well documented no matter how hard you try and parse its meaning.

EVERY publication the Founders issued is clear on the meaning, and the intent of the 2nd Amendment. Your interpretation is factually, historically, and philosophically WRONG.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Sure there is. If I want one then I can buy one. The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to own the very same weapons that were used by the military's of the world. Including our own.

And based on the corruption in our government that is now demonstrated on a daily basis, they were correct in doing so.

You are partially correct. I have fixed your statement to actually reflect the 2nd Amendment's true intention:

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the newly-created government became tyrannical against its citizenry as King George III had become.

"A well regulated militia" is not private citizens acquiring military-style weapons to play with at the risk and peril of the general public.

Definition: "Militia: a military force that is raised from the civil population to supplement a regular army in an emergency.""
Google

This has been argued many times over. The Founders mistrusted a standing army due to well known history of it's abuses. We are seeing ow the Military Industrial Complex is doing that same thing today. The Founders ensured that the PEOPLE would have the same weaponry as any standing army so that the PEOPLE would be able to fight a tyrannical government on an equal footing. This is well documented no matter how hard you try and parse its meaning.

EVERY publication the Founders issued is clear on the meaning, and the intent of the 2nd Amendment. Your interpretation is factually, historically, and philosophically WRONG.

They don't care. They have an agenda. I mean how the same idiots who claim that we can't put a ban on Muslim immigration until we figure out a better way to screen them can turn right around and claim that we CAN restrict gun rights with a straight face is just beyond me. The ONLY explanation is that they are stupid and dishonest.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Who gives a shit? It was an assault weapon. You get the drift.

Do you even know what an Assault weapon is?
Because it has a clip that carries over 30 rounds is that what makes it an Assault weapon?
Because it has a pistol grip does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
Because it looks like an M-16/M-4 does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
AR-15, is a single shot, semi automatic loading rifle, not selective fire assault weapon. That means you have to pull the trigger for each round to come out. Oh my it is soo scary, save me, Obama from the evil guns..
As typical of a stupid liberal(redundant statement)you have no clue about Assault weapons.

Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

For God's sakes, learn what the fuck you are talking about.

Assault weapon is a legal term
Assault rifle is a military term

An AR 15 (and similar weapons) IS an assault weapon , it is NOT an assault rifle.

You can argue all day long about whether assault weapons should be illegal, but use the correct god damned lingo.

So you are saying that a kitchen knife, a hammer, a dunk behind the wheel is an assault weapon? Anything that can be used to assault another individual is an assault weapon? Sure when you nitpick you dictionary terms then once again, it isn't the weapon doing the harm but the liberal who is wielding that weapon.

No you fucking idiot I'm saying "assault weapon" is a legal term defined by CONGRESS. It has nothing to do with anything other than what CONGRESS has defined as an assault weapon.


Criteria of an assault weapon

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

• Folding or telescoping stock
• Pistol grip
• Bayonet mount
• Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
• Grenade launcher mount

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

• Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
• Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
• Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
• Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
• A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

• Folding or telescoping stock
• Pistol grip
• Detachable magazine.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



which is NOT the same thing as an assault rifle


God damn morons all around.

Is this weapon an Assault weapon?


View attachment 78248

Still haven't answered if this is an Assault weapon?

 

[Czernobog]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Okay. so, in view of how Sig Saur, themselves, markets this weapon:



Would someone still like to insist that this is just a "hunting" weapon, and not an assault weapon?

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Do you even know what an Assault weapon is?
Because it has a clip that carries over 30 rounds is that what makes it an Assault weapon?
Because it has a pistol grip does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
Because it looks like an M-16/M-4 does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
AR-15, is a single shot, semi automatic loading rifle, not selective fire assault weapon. That means you have to pull the trigger for each round to come out. Oh my it is soo scary, save me, Obama from the evil guns..
As typical of a stupid liberal(redundant statement)you have no clue about Assault weapons.

Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For God's sakes, learn what the fuck you are talking about.

Assault weapon is a legal term
Assault rifle is a military term

An AR 15 (and similar weapons) IS an assault weapon , it is NOT an assault rifle.

You can argue all day long about whether assault weapons should be illegal, but use the correct god damned lingo.

So you are saying that a kitchen knife, a hammer, a dunk behind the wheel is an assault weapon? Anything that can be used to assault another individual is an assault weapon? Sure when you nitpick you dictionary terms then once again, it isn't the weapon doing the harm but the liberal who is wielding that weapon.

No you fucking idiot I'm saying "assault weapon" is a legal term defined by CONGRESS. It has nothing to do with anything other than what CONGRESS has defined as an assault weapon.


Criteria of an assault weapon

Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

• Folding or telescoping stock
• Pistol grip
• Bayonet mount
• Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
• Grenade launcher mount

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

• Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
• Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
• Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
• Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
• A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

• Folding or telescoping stock
• Pistol grip
• Detachable magazine.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



which is NOT the same thing as an assault rifle


God damn morons all around.

Is this weapon an Assault weapon?


View attachment 78248

Still haven't answered if this is an Assault weapon?

You are one ignorant motherfucker.

Read the definition I provided, does the weapon you posted a picture of meet the criteria? If not then, no it is not an assault weapon.

How do you dumb motherfuckers make it through a day without forgetting to breathe? I'm being serious, some of yall should be outright embarrassed by how stupid you are.

"assault weapon" is a legal construct PERIOD. If anyone calls any weapon that does not meet the legal criteria an assault weapon they are wrong PERIOD. Assault weapon =/= assault rifle, PERIOD.

By the same token, if something meets the criteria for assault weapon than that is what it is . PERIOD.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Okay. so, in view of how Sig Saur, themselves, markets this weapon:



Would someone still like to insist that this is just a "hunting" weapon, and not an assault weapon?

assault weapon is a legal term as defined by Congress. NO manufacture defines their own weapons as "assault weapons"

Sig actually defines their weapon as a personal defense weapon.

Now , obviously that weapon meets the criteria for assault weapon according to the now defunct law, but that has nothing to do with how Sig markets it.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Okay. so, in view of how Sig Saur, themselves, markets this weapon:



Would someone still like to insist that this is just a "hunting" weapon, and not an assault weapon?

Scary weapon, please guberment, make sure the law abiding citizen doesn't get that weapon. But go ahead and allow the bad guys to get them like they did with fast and furious.

How Eric Holder spun the ‘Fast and Furious’ scandal to a lapdog media | New York Post

The documents relate to the Justice Department case “Fast and Furious” in which federal agents secretly facilitated delivery of thousands of ASSAULT weapons to Mexican drug cartels.

Bad guys, unless they pass a FBI background check because of political correctness, will get ASSAULT weapons legally with the governments blessing or get them illegally from other sources. Both were failed attempts by YOUR guberment that you voted for not once but twice. Save me my first White black messiah, from the Christians who just want to live their lives in peace and not harm anyone. Bunch of hypocrites you libidiots are.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Okay. so, in view of how Sig Saur, themselves, markets this weapon:



Would someone still like to insist that this is just a "hunting" weapon, and not an assault weapon?

assault weapon is a legal term as defined by Congress. NO manufacture defines their own weapons as "assault weapons"

Sig actually defines their weapon as a personal defense weapon.

Now , obviously that weapon meets the criteria for assault weapon according to the now defunct law, but that has nothing to do with how Sig markets it.

The liberals who are in charge of the guberment , don't know a rats ass from a hole in the ground. That is why people are dying in a Gun Free Zone called Chicago, but that doesn't meet the requirement since it is black on black crime. Why don't you libidiots HOWL about that war zone? Did you know most of those who died there were by pistol?
Chirp, Chirp, Chirp, hear those liberal crickets????? The ends justify the means...


As Expected, Chicago Ended Memorial Day Weekend With 69 People Shot

As Expected, Chicago Ended Memorial Day Weekend With 69 People Shot

 

[Czernobog]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Okay. so, in view of how Sig Saur, themselves, markets this weapon:



Would someone still like to insist that this is just a "hunting" weapon, and not an assault weapon?

assault weapon is a legal term as defined by Congress. NO manufacture defines their own weapons as "assault weapons"

Sig actually defines their weapon as a personal defense weapon.

Now , obviously that weapon meets the criteria for assault weapon according to the now defunct law, but that has nothing to do with how Sig markets it.

Really? A "personal defense"? They point out that it has a folding stock making it easily concealable, and comes with easy change barrels. How are these important features for personal safety? I mean, I can see how they might be imp-ortant to the terrorist who wants to conceal the gun he is bringing into the club to kill everyone with, but don't really see the advantage for personal safety.

I just don't understand why so many on the right are so adverse to simple, common sense regulation, like reinstating the assault weapon bans.

 

[Valerie]

the 2nd amendment right for 'the people' to bear arms presupposes what is "necessary to the security of" a FREE state.

totalitarian government my ass, we live by constitutional RULE OF LAW governed by the people for the people!

National Constitution Center

Shays' Rebellion

 

[Fair&Balanced]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Okay. so, in view of how Sig Saur, themselves, markets this weapon:



Would someone still like to insist that this is just a "hunting" weapon, and not an assault weapon?

assault weapon is a legal term as defined by Congress. NO manufacture defines their own weapons as "assault weapons"

Sig actually defines their weapon as a personal defense weapon.

Now , obviously that weapon meets the criteria for assault weapon according to the now defunct law, but that has nothing to do with how Sig markets it.

Really? A "personal defense"? They point out that it has a folding stock making it easily concealable, and comes with easy change barrels. How are these important features for personal safety? I mean, I can see how they might be imp-ortant to the terrorist who wants to conceal the gun he is bringing into the club to kill everyone with, but don't really see the advantage for personal safety.

I just don't understand why so many on the right are so adverse to simple, common sense regulation, like reinstating the assault weapon bans.

Oh, I can surely believe that you have no idea the advantages provided by certain gun features for personal defense. My bet is you've never fired a gun in your life.

You also don't seem to understand that the assault weapon ban would NOT do shit about the assault weapons already in private hands. They were grand fathered in then, they would be grand fathered in now.

That is to say that you are part right there is no reason for anyone to fight the reinstatement of the assault weapons ban. there are PLENTY of these weapons in circulation now. I have probably 60 or so myself.

In other words, the assault weapons ban is a placebo meant to make liberals feel better good about themselves for doing something that in reality does very little to battle the very problem they say they want to solve.

As horrible as the Orlando shooting was, you do realize that's average weekend in Chicago , right? And statistics prove that the overwhelming number of those people are shot with hand guns. So , are hand guns your next target?

Look at this way, we ALL hate DUI (and of course there are some idiots who think that they have a right to drink and drive, but we don't count them) but do we make booze illegal? Do we punish those who drink legally and responsibly? No, we go after those who abuse their rights and punish them, harshly. Why? Because it doesn't make sense to make alcohol illegal. In fact we tried that once, a total disaster if you will recall.

I believe most of yall have good intentions, but you've been misled. Guns aren't your enemy. People who misuse weapons are.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

the 2nd amendment right for 'the people' to bear arms presupposes what is "necessary to the security of" a FREE state.

totalitarian government my ass, we live by constitutional RULE OF LAW governed by the people for the people!

National Constitution Center

Shays' Rebellion

Please give US an example of how your gubermant is constitutional?

 

[OldLady]

yep.......hammers got it wrong.....

NARRATIVE FAIL: Orlando Islamic Terrorist Did NOT Use An AR-15

The rifle used by the Islamist terrorist in Orlando was instead a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, a modular, multi-caliber (able to swap to different calibers, including 5.56 NATO, 300 BLK, and 7.62×39) rifle system that sometimes utilizes STANAG magazines common to more than 60 different firearms, but otherwise has no major parts that interface with AR-15s in any way, shape or form.

Who gives a shit? It was an assault weapon. You get the drift.

Do you even know what an Assault weapon is?
Because it has a clip that carries over 30 rounds is that what makes it an Assault weapon?
Because it has a pistol grip does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
Because it looks like an M-16/M-4 does that mean it is an Assault weapon?
AR-15, is a single shot, semi automatic loading rifle, not selective fire assault weapon. That means you have to pull the trigger for each round to come out. Oh my it is soo scary, save me, Obama from the evil guns..
As typical of a stupid liberal(redundant statement)you have no clue about Assault weapons.

Assault rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.

You guys are so predictable. Start quibbling over the definition of an assault weapon. If Clinton and Obama and commentators on Fox News can use the term "assault weapons," so can I. You know what we're talking about.

 

[OldLady]

there is no civilian lawful purpose for this military grade weapon...

SIG SAUER developed the MCX rifle for America’s special forces.


While the SIG SAUER MCX kinda looks like a standard AR-15, there’s one major difference: it’s gas piston operated. Buffer and gas tube? Gone. SIG’s replaced them with a short stroke gas piston and a compact recoil system contained completely within the upper receiver. To provide the force necessary to stop the bolt carrier’s rearward movement and return it to battery after each round, the MCX features a pair of recoil springs directly attached to the bolt carrier. Because the recoil springs are housed where an AR-15’s charging handle would normally sit the charging handle has been moved slightly higher than normal on the receiver.

When you run a suppressed rifle the added back pressure from the silencer creates additional force to the bolt carrier, which makes the rifle cycle faster. That’s not good; it can become uncontrollable and cause excessive wear on the operating bits. The MCX has an adjustable gas system that changes the amount of gas being sent to the piston, controlling the cycle rate. The system’s equipped with a gas regulator that the shooter can adjust on the fly.

[NB: There are currently two MCX version on the market. The first (sold through Cabela’s) uses a self-regulating gas system that vents super-heated gas directly into the air to control the pressure. The latest and now official version uses a closed system manually adjusted from “suppressed” to “unsuppressed.” The official word from SIG SAUER: the adjustable gas system was done on request, but they settled on the manual system to make the civilian MCX be as close as possible to the military MCX.]

Gun Review: SIG SAUER MCX - The Truth About Guns

Sure there is. If I want one then I can buy one. The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to own the very same weapons that were used by the military's of the world. Including our own.

And based on the corruption in our government that is now demonstrated on a daily basis, they were correct in doing so.

You are partially correct. I have fixed your statement to actually reflect the 2nd Amendment:

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the newly-created government became tyrannical against its citizenry as King George had become.

""""The Founders were far more worried about an illegitimate government abusing its power than they were about an invading army thus the 2nd Amendment is about the ability of the American public to "form a well-regulated militia" in the event the Fundamentally Transformed government became tyrannical against its citizenry as The Messiah OBama had become.

I don't see any of you fat mouths doing anything about it If you're going to form a militia, get to it or get off the pot and allow sane gun control in this country.