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Ah. So it comes to light like I knew it would. Your emotional turmoil due to being biased is the reason you cant stay on topic. Furthermore your fear of muslims has warped your view so you cant simply discuss the OP which I may add you didnt have to address but chose to do so.>>"My opinion of you doesnt really matter. Your emotional turmoil comes from the OP. Just know I know."<<My opinion of you doesnt really matter. Your emotional turmoil comes from the OP. Just know I know.Your opinion of me is most welcome... but far from unsettling.It appears to me you cant stay on topic.It appears to me that you are incapable of admitting you are wrong, and even worse, incapable of change.My premise seems to have hurt your feelings. Lets discuss the topic.
You look ridiculous. You look the fool. But stubborn as a mule. How sad.
Of course Islam is the very worst stubborn mule in the world. Because their ideas cause enormous violence, murder, hatred, intolerance and fear. Book or no book, that religion is a terror to mankind.
You look retarded. You look the imbecile. Dumb as a box of lint. That is truly disheartening.
Of course people that cant deal with the topic go off on tangents. Your failure to see the OP and discuss it only shows me you have succumbed to emotional turmoil and all intellect has vacated your brain as a result.
The fact you have to harp to me or rosie about being off topic is tantamount to you saying "I do not want to engage you in a discussion because I am disarmed." You have no defense.
In fact. You do not even have a topic.
This is true. I dont want to engage with you on off topic tangents. I never claimed I desired to talk about anything other than the topic.
Yes I have a topic. Your failure of reading comprehension is the cause of you being in error.
Ok, I guess you know something I do not know?
FYI, I am not emotionally distressed because there is violence and killings in the Bible. My G-d has demonstrated His goodness, His omniscience, and His promises give me great hope.
I am emotionally distressed by Islam and its many followers who are blinded by this religion. They are causing the whole world to tremble. They are intolerant of everyone, hating on everyone and plotting to kill anyone who does not submit to their will. It is a very scary time. The Koran and Bagdadi and the internet are all reasons for me to be emotionally distressed. Yes.
You dont have to see the value. I made the thread not you. We all know there must be some value or you wouldnt be on the thread.If this was:
The Koran vs The Bible vs Aesop's
Aesop would win every time.
There are many books in the world ------of many kinds----somehow ASCLEPIAS
seems convinced that there is some reason to do a random line comparison
between the bible and the koran. I do not see the value
You dont have to see the value. I made the thread not you. We all know there must be some value or you wouldnt be on the thread.If this was:
The Koran vs The Bible vs Aesop's
Aesop would win every time.
There are many books in the world ------of many kinds----somehow ASCLEPIAS
seems convinced that there is some reason to do a random line comparison
between the bible and the koran. I do not see the value
Cant be the NT because it too has violence in it and also Jesus himself said the OT was still to be followed.Perhaps you don't have drumsticks in your hands, but how do you support that people are 'pretending' the bible isn't violent through an illustration that people just don't know what's in the bible? How do you support that this is driven by propaganda? What if it's driven by the New Testament or something like that?I disagree. This is not a case of twisting what is in the bible/quran. These entreatments/commands are in the books There is no doubt about that. Thats what makes them violent and oppressive.Books are not violent and oppressive. It's the people, governments and societies that indulge in them, and the extent which they do which makes all the difference.Youre not as perceptive as you imagine yourself to be. I dont feel a need moderate anything. I dont believe in either religion and find both books to be violent and oppressive. My OP was simply a remark on how people pretend the bible doesnt advocate violence like they claim the Quran does.I read into things like timing and what-not. At the moment, you're part of a wave of people who feel they need to moderate anti-islamic sentiments in the US. I think the best way would be an appeal to people's kindness, as I think these attempts at logical persuasion are failing. The logic is missing.Do you see anything in my OP attempting to excuse violence?
Thats your right to think its a deflection from the general conversation about the liability of that faith. I agree christians generally deflect from the violence in the bible.
The keeping it real movement, on the other hand, sees that the world is insulating muslims from the sort of social pressure and public opinion that shaped Christianity the way you describe.
Why? [Cue lecture on what it is to be American (likely from someone with a foreign accent)]
Your appeal on the otherhand seems more like a plea to not point out this hypocrisy. It seems like you have some personal motivation that is clouding your ability to be objective.
You could always be into this christian/muslim book review cause without any stake in it yourself, but that's weird. Indeed, my perceptiveness assumes people aren't weird as a limitation.
Are you aware that you're beating the drum for a recently popularized 'christians are equally violent/dangerous' meme, or are you really introverted and isolated in this pursuit as well?
I never made an appeal. I made a statement about how interesting this denial regarding the violence, misogyny, etc in bible. I even used the word "interesting" in my OP.
What supernatural about being objective? I agree most people are not supernatural as a limitation.
I'm not beating any drum. I'm stating how interesting it is that people pretend like the bible isnt violent due to propaganda and believe the quran is violent.
Thanks for your input but it doesnt matter.You dont have to see the value. I made the thread not you. We all know there must be some value or you wouldnt be on the thread.If this was:
The Koran vs The Bible vs Aesop's
Aesop would win every time.
There are many books in the world ------of many kinds----somehow ASCLEPIAS
seems convinced that there is some reason to do a random line comparison
between the bible and the koran. I do not see the value
not true-----I am letting you know that the study is silly
Cant be the NT because it too has violence in it and also Jesus himself said the OT was still to be followed.Perhaps you don't have drumsticks in your hands, but how do you support that people are 'pretending' the bible isn't violent through an illustration that people just don't know what's in the bible? How do you support that this is driven by propaganda? What if it's driven by the New Testament or something like that?I disagree. This is not a case of twisting what is in the bible/quran. These entreatments/commands are in the books There is no doubt about that. Thats what makes them violent and oppressive.Books are not violent and oppressive. It's the people, governments and societies that indulge in them, and the extent which they do which makes all the difference.Youre not as perceptive as you imagine yourself to be. I dont feel a need moderate anything. I dont believe in either religion and find both books to be violent and oppressive. My OP was simply a remark on how people pretend the bible doesnt advocate violence like they claim the Quran does.I read into things like timing and what-not. At the moment, you're part of a wave of people who feel they need to moderate anti-islamic sentiments in the US. I think the best way would be an appeal to people's kindness, as I think these attempts at logical persuasion are failing. The logic is missing.
The keeping it real movement, on the other hand, sees that the world is insulating muslims from the sort of social pressure and public opinion that shaped Christianity the way you describe.
Why? [Cue lecture on what it is to be American (likely from someone with a foreign accent)]
Your appeal on the otherhand seems more like a plea to not point out this hypocrisy. It seems like you have some personal motivation that is clouding your ability to be objective.
You could always be into this christian/muslim book review cause without any stake in it yourself, but that's weird. Indeed, my perceptiveness assumes people aren't weird as a limitation.
Are you aware that you're beating the drum for a recently popularized 'christians are equally violent/dangerous' meme, or are you really introverted and isolated in this pursuit as well?
I never made an appeal. I made a statement about how interesting this denial regarding the violence, misogyny, etc in bible. I even used the word "interesting" in my OP.
What supernatural about being objective? I agree most people are not supernatural as a limitation.
I'm not beating any drum. I'm stating how interesting it is that people pretend like the bible isnt violent due to propaganda and believe the quran is violent.
Ah. So it comes to light like I knew it would. Your emotional turmoil due to being biased is the reason you cant stay on topic. Furthermore your fear of muslims has warped your view so you cant simply discuss the OP which I may add you didnt have to address but chose to do so.>>"My opinion of you doesnt really matter. Your emotional turmoil comes from the OP. Just know I know."<<My opinion of you doesnt really matter. Your emotional turmoil comes from the OP. Just know I know.Your opinion of me is most welcome... but far from unsettling.It appears to me you cant stay on topic.It appears to me that you are incapable of admitting you are wrong, and even worse, incapable of change.
You look ridiculous. You look the fool. But stubborn as a mule. How sad.
Of course Islam is the very worst stubborn mule in the world. Because their ideas cause enormous violence, murder, hatred, intolerance and fear. Book or no book, that religion is a terror to mankind.
You look retarded. You look the imbecile. Dumb as a box of lint. That is truly disheartening.
Of course people that cant deal with the topic go off on tangents. Your failure to see the OP and discuss it only shows me you have succumbed to emotional turmoil and all intellect has vacated your brain as a result.
The fact you have to harp to me or rosie about being off topic is tantamount to you saying "I do not want to engage you in a discussion because I am disarmed." You have no defense.
In fact. You do not even have a topic.
This is true. I dont want to engage with you on off topic tangents. I never claimed I desired to talk about anything other than the topic.
Yes I have a topic. Your failure of reading comprehension is the cause of you being in error.
Ok, I guess you know something I do not know?
FYI, I am not emotionally distressed because there is violence and killings in the Bible. My G-d has demonstrated His goodness, His omniscience, and His promises give me great hope.
I am emotionally distressed by Islam and its many followers who are blinded by this religion. They are causing the whole world to tremble. They are intolerant of everyone, hating on everyone and plotting to kill anyone who does not submit to their will. It is a very scary time. The Koran and Bagdadi and the internet are all reasons for me to be emotionally distressed. Yes.
Of course there is not much being discussed regarding the topic and I fault myself for addressing your deflections to be honest. If you wish to discuss the OP then I suggest you read it and watch the video.Ah. So it comes to light like I knew it would. Your emotional turmoil due to being biased is the reason you cant stay on topic. Furthermore your fear of muslims has warped your view so you cant simply discuss the OP which I may add you didnt have to address but chose to do so.>>"My opinion of you doesnt really matter. Your emotional turmoil comes from the OP. Just know I know."<<My opinion of you doesnt really matter. Your emotional turmoil comes from the OP. Just know I know.Your opinion of me is most welcome... but far from unsettling.It appears to me you cant stay on topic.
You look retarded. You look the imbecile. Dumb as a box of lint. That is truly disheartening.
Of course people that cant deal with the topic go off on tangents. Your failure to see the OP and discuss it only shows me you have succumbed to emotional turmoil and all intellect has vacated your brain as a result.
The fact you have to harp to me or rosie about being off topic is tantamount to you saying "I do not want to engage you in a discussion because I am disarmed." You have no defense.
In fact. You do not even have a topic.
This is true. I dont want to engage with you on off topic tangents. I never claimed I desired to talk about anything other than the topic.
Yes I have a topic. Your failure of reading comprehension is the cause of you being in error.
Ok, I guess you know something I do not know?
FYI, I am not emotionally distressed because there is violence and killings in the Bible. My G-d has demonstrated His goodness, His omniscience, and His promises give me great hope.
I am emotionally distressed by Islam and its many followers who are blinded by this religion. They are causing the whole world to tremble. They are intolerant of everyone, hating on everyone and plotting to kill anyone who does not submit to their will. It is a very scary time. The Koran and Bagdadi and the internet are all reasons for me to be emotionally distressed. Yes.
I am going to give you an 'A' for persistence, and give myself a 'D' for chasing after this.
There is almost nothing being discussed. So I leave you with this (and I am sure that rosie is curious too) ---- What exactly is the main topic I am unable to stay on with? Is it a question or is it a declarative statement by you?
Interesting video. Kind of puts a bright light on the power of propaganda, ignorance, and how perception is dictated by those with the loudest voices.
.
Well he didnt say to not do the violence either. He just said follow the violent laws without distinguishing which ones.Cant be the NT because it too has violence in it and also Jesus himself said the OT was still to be followed.Perhaps you don't have drumsticks in your hands, but how do you support that people are 'pretending' the bible isn't violent through an illustration that people just don't know what's in the bible? How do you support that this is driven by propaganda? What if it's driven by the New Testament or something like that?I disagree. This is not a case of twisting what is in the bible/quran. These entreatments/commands are in the books There is no doubt about that. Thats what makes them violent and oppressive.Books are not violent and oppressive. It's the people, governments and societies that indulge in them, and the extent which they do which makes all the difference.Youre not as perceptive as you imagine yourself to be. I dont feel a need moderate anything. I dont believe in either religion and find both books to be violent and oppressive. My OP was simply a remark on how people pretend the bible doesnt advocate violence like they claim the Quran does.
Your appeal on the otherhand seems more like a plea to not point out this hypocrisy. It seems like you have some personal motivation that is clouding your ability to be objective.
You could always be into this christian/muslim book review cause without any stake in it yourself, but that's weird. Indeed, my perceptiveness assumes people aren't weird as a limitation.
Are you aware that you're beating the drum for a recently popularized 'christians are equally violent/dangerous' meme, or are you really introverted and isolated in this pursuit as well?
I never made an appeal. I made a statement about how interesting this denial regarding the violence, misogyny, etc in bible. I even used the word "interesting" in my OP.
What supernatural about being objective? I agree most people are not supernatural as a limitation.
I'm not beating any drum. I'm stating how interesting it is that people pretend like the bible isnt violent due to propaganda and believe the quran is violent.
right---Jesus did say that------he did not say
"DO THE VIOLENCE" I do not recall Jesus so much as intimating-----"since Samson knocked some people around with the jawbone of an ass, you should
do the same" There are a few stories about people committing suicide in
the bible-------I do not remember Jesus advising----"KILL YOURSELF"
Interesting video. Kind of puts a bright light on the power of propaganda, ignorance, and how perception is dictated by those with the loudest voices.
.
The Islamoapologists have to work overtime now.
Call me when people storm into a party shouting "For the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" as they slaughter everyone.
Thou shall not murder means thou shall not murder.
Interesting video. Kind of puts a bright light on the power of propaganda, ignorance, and how perception is dictated by those with the loudest voices.
.
The Islamoapologists have to work overtime now.
Call me when people storm into a party shouting "For the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" as they slaughter everyone.
Thou shall not murder means thou shall not murder.
No one called you in the first place or you dialed the wrong number.
Well he didnt say to not do the violence either. He just said follow the violent laws without distinguishing which ones.Cant be the NT because it too has violence in it and also Jesus himself said the OT was still to be followed.Perhaps you don't have drumsticks in your hands, but how do you support that people are 'pretending' the bible isn't violent through an illustration that people just don't know what's in the bible? How do you support that this is driven by propaganda? What if it's driven by the New Testament or something like that?I disagree. This is not a case of twisting what is in the bible/quran. These entreatments/commands are in the books There is no doubt about that. Thats what makes them violent and oppressive.Books are not violent and oppressive. It's the people, governments and societies that indulge in them, and the extent which they do which makes all the difference.
You could always be into this christian/muslim book review cause without any stake in it yourself, but that's weird. Indeed, my perceptiveness assumes people aren't weird as a limitation.
Are you aware that you're beating the drum for a recently popularized 'christians are equally violent/dangerous' meme, or are you really introverted and isolated in this pursuit as well?
I never made an appeal. I made a statement about how interesting this denial regarding the violence, misogyny, etc in bible. I even used the word "interesting" in my OP.
What supernatural about being objective? I agree most people are not supernatural as a limitation.
I'm not beating any drum. I'm stating how interesting it is that people pretend like the bible isnt violent due to propaganda and believe the quran is violent.
right---Jesus did say that------he did not say
"DO THE VIOLENCE" I do not recall Jesus so much as intimating-----"since Samson knocked some people around with the jawbone of an ass, you should
do the same" There are a few stories about people committing suicide in
the bible-------I do not remember Jesus advising----"KILL YOURSELF"
I thought you said you read the bible before?Well he didnt say to not do the violence either. He just said follow the violent laws without distinguishing which ones.Cant be the NT because it too has violence in it and also Jesus himself said the OT was still to be followed.Perhaps you don't have drumsticks in your hands, but how do you support that people are 'pretending' the bible isn't violent through an illustration that people just don't know what's in the bible? How do you support that this is driven by propaganda? What if it's driven by the New Testament or something like that?I disagree. This is not a case of twisting what is in the bible/quran. These entreatments/commands are in the books There is no doubt about that. Thats what makes them violent and oppressive.
I never made an appeal. I made a statement about how interesting this denial regarding the violence, misogyny, etc in bible. I even used the word "interesting" in my OP.
What supernatural about being objective? I agree most people are not supernatural as a limitation.
I'm not beating any drum. I'm stating how interesting it is that people pretend like the bible isnt violent due to propaganda and believe the quran is violent.
right---Jesus did say that------he did not say
"DO THE VIOLENCE" I do not recall Jesus so much as intimating-----"since Samson knocked some people around with the jawbone of an ass, you should
do the same" There are a few stories about people committing suicide in
the bible-------I do not remember Jesus advising----"KILL YOURSELF"
to what "violent" laws do you refer? banging people around with the jawbone of an ass? <<<< that one was never part of jewish law.
Interesting video. Kind of puts a bright light on the power of propaganda, ignorance, and how perception is dictated by those with the loudest voices.
.
The Islamoapologists have to work overtime now.
Call me when people storm into a party shouting "For the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" as they slaughter everyone.
Thou shall not murder means thou shall not murder.
No one called you in the first place or you dialed the wrong number.
No one asked you to lie for your Mulum masters either.
Interesting video. Kind of puts a bright light on the power of propaganda, ignorance, and how perception is dictated by those with the loudest voices.
.
The Islamoapologists have to work overtime now.
Call me when people storm into a party shouting "For the Father, Son and Holy Spirit" as they slaughter everyone.
Thou shall not murder means thou shall not murder.
No one called you in the first place or you dialed the wrong number.
No one asked you to lie for your Mulum masters either.
Where did I lie? Are you claiming the bible doesnt have violence in it?
Do we even know if the 'subjects' have ever read the bible?Perhaps you don't have drumsticks in your hands, but how do you support that people are 'pretending' the bible isn't violent through an illustration that people just don't know what's in the bible? How do you support that this is driven by propaganda? What if it's driven by the New Testament or something like that?I disagree. This is not a case of twisting what is in the bible/quran. These entreatments/commands are in the books There is no doubt about that. Thats what makes them violent and oppressive.Books are not violent and oppressive. It's the people, governments and societies that indulge in them, and the extent which they do which makes all the difference.Youre not as perceptive as you imagine yourself to be. I dont feel a need moderate anything. I dont believe in either religion and find both books to be violent and oppressive. My OP was simply a remark on how people pretend the bible doesnt advocate violence like they claim the Quran does.I read into things like timing and what-not. At the moment, you're part of a wave of people who feel they need to moderate anti-islamic sentiments in the US. I think the best way would be an appeal to people's kindness, as I think these attempts at logical persuasion are failing. The logic is missing.Do you see anything in my OP attempting to excuse violence?
Thats your right to think its a deflection from the general conversation about the liability of that faith. I agree christians generally deflect from the violence in the bible.
The keeping it real movement, on the other hand, sees that the world is insulating muslims from the sort of social pressure and public opinion that shaped Christianity the way you describe.
Why? [Cue lecture on what it is to be American (likely from someone with a foreign accent)]
Your appeal on the otherhand seems more like a plea to not point out this hypocrisy. It seems like you have some personal motivation that is clouding your ability to be objective.
You could always be into this christian/muslim book review cause without any stake in it yourself, but that's weird. Indeed, my perceptiveness assumes people aren't weird as a limitation.
Are you aware that you're beating the drum for a recently popularized 'christians are equally violent/dangerous' meme, or are you really introverted and isolated in this pursuit as well?
I never made an appeal. I made a statement about how interesting this denial regarding the violence, misogyny, etc in bible. I even used the word "interesting" in my OP.
What supernatural about being objective? I agree most people are not supernatural as a limitation.
I'm not beating any drum. I'm stating how interesting it is that people pretend like the bible isnt violent due to propaganda and believe the quran is violent.
Good Christian men have been beating their wives since Jesus walked the earth (these men still are - Welcome to CDD), and good Christian men made the laws that said it was impossible for a man to rape his wife, and she was property. As for the slaughter of the enemy, the Jews were good at that, with the help of God no less. It's recorded in the Bible.Of course you equate recorded history with directions to murder all none Muslims and how to properly beat your wife. You're a lefty loony.
And right on cue here comes the Islamoapologist with his lies to divert attention away from his religion.Good Christian men have been beating their wives since Jesus walked the earth (these men still are - Welcome to CDD), and good Christian men made the laws that said it was impossible for a man to rape his wife, and she was property. As for the slaughter of the enemy, the Jews were good at that, with the help of God no less. It's recorded in the Bible...Of course you equate recorded history with directions to murder all none Muslims and how to properly beat your wife. You're a lefty loony.
Please enlighten me with this same exercise using the New Testament.Cant be the NT because it too has violence in it and also Jesus himself said the OT was still to be followed.Perhaps you don't have drumsticks in your hands, but how do you support that people are 'pretending' the bible isn't violent through an illustration that people just don't know what's in the bible? How do you support that this is driven by propaganda? What if it's driven by the New Testament or something like that?I disagree. This is not a case of twisting what is in the bible/quran. These entreatments/commands are in the books There is no doubt about that. Thats what makes them violent and oppressive.Books are not violent and oppressive. It's the people, governments and societies that indulge in them, and the extent which they do which makes all the difference.Youre not as perceptive as you imagine yourself to be. I dont feel a need moderate anything. I dont believe in either religion and find both books to be violent and oppressive. My OP was simply a remark on how people pretend the bible doesnt advocate violence like they claim the Quran does.I read into things like timing and what-not. At the moment, you're part of a wave of people who feel they need to moderate anti-islamic sentiments in the US. I think the best way would be an appeal to people's kindness, as I think these attempts at logical persuasion are failing. The logic is missing.
The keeping it real movement, on the other hand, sees that the world is insulating muslims from the sort of social pressure and public opinion that shaped Christianity the way you describe.
Why? [Cue lecture on what it is to be American (likely from someone with a foreign accent)]
Your appeal on the otherhand seems more like a plea to not point out this hypocrisy. It seems like you have some personal motivation that is clouding your ability to be objective.
You could always be into this christian/muslim book review cause without any stake in it yourself, but that's weird. Indeed, my perceptiveness assumes people aren't weird as a limitation.
Are you aware that you're beating the drum for a recently popularized 'christians are equally violent/dangerous' meme, or are you really introverted and isolated in this pursuit as well?
I never made an appeal. I made a statement about how interesting this denial regarding the violence, misogyny, etc in bible. I even used the word "interesting" in my OP.
What supernatural about being objective? I agree most people are not supernatural as a limitation.
I'm not beating any drum. I'm stating how interesting it is that people pretend like the bible isnt violent due to propaganda and believe the quran is violent.
