The last time...

I thought you were saying you thought they were unreliable. Your last post was pretty incomprehensible.
 
Neither will we say when the atmosphere caught fire or the Earth turned inside out or toads rained from the sky. We just don't like to talk about those things.
/——/ Dag dum climate just keeps on changing. Raise taxes and send AlBore more money.
 
Neither will we say when the atmosphere caught fire or the Earth turned inside out or toads rained from the sky. We just don't like to talk about those things.
we agree, because climate has always been changing since before man, and heaven forbid you all are honest and say climate change is a natural process. hahahahahahahahahah. Let me ask a hypothetical question, how long would it take for Antarctica to melt?
 
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Neither will we say when the atmosphere caught fire or the Earth turned inside out or toads rained from the sky. We just don't like to talk about those things.



Well, we have two and only two measures of atmospheric temps, and neither showed any warming in the atmosphere despite rising Co2 until your side


FUDGED THE DATA
 
we agree, because climate has always been changing since before man, and heaven forbid you all are honest and say climate change is a natural process. hahahahahahahahahah. Let me ask a hypothetical question, how long would it take for Antarctica to melt?
/——-/ Since global warmers won’t give specifics, I can only assume they want a constant 72 degrees world wide all year long.
 
/——-/ Since global warmers won’t give specifics, I can only assume they want a constant 72 degrees world wide all year long.
It's truly odd they think that the globe needs to be one temperature when the globe tilts and spins. They remain totally clueless to planetarium behavior.
 
It's truly odd they think that the globe needs to be one temperature when the globe tilts and spins. They remain totally clueless to planetarium behavior.
Planetarium behavior? Really? And one temperature? Really?!?! Wow... how long has it been like this?
 
Climate-wise, we'd like the world we had just before the Industrial Revolution began. Is that specific enough for you?
/---/ Pick up a history book and learn something. This is just one aspect.
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In late nineteenth century, New York contained somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 horses. All transport, whether of goods or people, was drawn by horses, from fancy carriages pulled by the finest breeds, to cabs and horse trolleys and countless carts, drays, and wains – all working to deliver the goods needed by the City’s rapidly growing population.
Each horse produced up to 30 pounds of manure per day and a quart of urine. All of this ended up in stables or along the streets. That added up to millions of pounds each day and over 100,000 tons per year (not to mention around 10 million gallons of urine).

By the end of the 19th century, vacant lots around New York City housed manure piles that reached 40 or 60 feet high. It was estimated that in a few decades, every street would have manure piled up to third story levels.

Streets covered by horse manure attracted huge numbers of flies. One estimate claimed that horse manure was the daily hatching ground for three billion disease spreading flies in the United States. In winter, manure mixed with the dirt of unpaved streets to form a detestable, smelly, gooey muck. In summer, the dried and ground-up manure was blown everywhere and the smell was overbearing. When it rained, mini-rivers of manure flooded the streets and sidewalks, often seeping into basements.

Horses also died. Often from overwork in the middle of the street. When they died, their carcasses were often abandoned, creating an additional health issue. In 1880, New York City removed an estimated 15,000 dead horses from its streets. But sometimes a big carcass would simply be left to rot until it had disintegrated enough for someone to pick up the pieces.
 
/---/ Pick up a history book and learn something. This is just one aspect.
unnamed18-300x265.jpg

In late nineteenth century, New York contained somewhere between 150,000 and 200,000 horses. All transport, whether of goods or people, was drawn by horses, from fancy carriages pulled by the finest breeds, to cabs and horse trolleys and countless carts, drays, and wains – all working to deliver the goods needed by the City’s rapidly growing population.
Each horse produced up to 30 pounds of manure per day and a quart of urine. All of this ended up in stables or along the streets. That added up to millions of pounds each day and over 100,000 tons per year (not to mention around 10 million gallons of urine).

By the end of the 19th century, vacant lots around New York City housed manure piles that reached 40 or 60 feet high. It was estimated that in a few decades, every street would have manure piled up to third story levels.

Streets covered by horse manure attracted huge numbers of flies. One estimate claimed that horse manure was the daily hatching ground for three billion disease spreading flies in the United States. In winter, manure mixed with the dirt of unpaved streets to form a detestable, smelly, gooey muck. In summer, the dried and ground-up manure was blown everywhere and the smell was overbearing. When it rained, mini-rivers of manure flooded the streets and sidewalks, often seeping into basements.

Horses also died. Often from overwork in the middle of the street. When they died, their carcasses were often abandoned, creating an additional health issue. In 1880, New York City removed an estimated 15,000 dead horses from its streets. But sometimes a big carcass would simply be left to rot until it had disintegrated enough for someone to pick up the pieces.
I said climate, not horses.
 

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