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How is he a nazi goon?Jim Carey shouldn't pay a cent. He should instead tweet every day about what a Nazi goon the kid is.They won't think it's so funny when they lose a million dollar judgement.Kathy Griffin and Jim Carrey
I'm pretty sure Jim Carrey can laugh off a million dollars.
Now THAT would be funny.
You mean like saying Ted Cruz's dad helped kill Kennedy?Since when does the First Amendment make it legal to libel someone?
You mean like spending years falsely claiming the President is not qualified to be President because he was born in Kenya?
Like that?
I see two huge problems here, and I don’t lay all at the feet of the media but at feet of our society that drives and consumes and spreads uncritically the fodder generated by the thousands of outlets that call themselves media and journalists and talking heads.
Sandmann. A 16 yr old kid attending an event. He may or may not have behaved rudely, depends on your point of video view, but it doesn’t matter. What he may or may not have done is hardly newsworthy. He is a typical teen, maybe a little bored, doing nothing wrong. Teen kid being a teen kid. Not news by any means. But some one takes a video, opinionated to their particular slant, and makes a nonevent into something of a crisis for him and his family who had no clue he had even done something wrong. Death threats? Media shredding of a teens charecter and motivation, and worse doubling down on it when debate issues? Unreal!
And if you think Hogg is any different shame on you. He is another kid, who survived a horrendous experience no kid should have, and chose to not just let it be swept under the rug. Whether you agree with his view point or not, shouldn’t matter. He was accused of being a crisis actor, of not even having been there, his personal life was intruded on when Laura Ingraham made fun of him on her show, his family received death threats.
These are the ADULTS behaving in this shameful manner towards KIDS! ADULTS! WTF is wrong with them? And then you (a general sweeping “you”) say itis ok to attack some kids but not others? No! This is not cool. We have lost something here.
How is he a nazi goon?Jim Carey shouldn't pay a cent. He should instead tweet every day about what a Nazi goon the kid is.They won't think it's so funny when they lose a million dollar judgement.Kathy Griffin and Jim Carrey
I'm pretty sure Jim Carrey can laugh off a million dollars.
Now THAT would be funny.
Like i said we"ll seeThey already have. Sandman will win this case in the end.they're walking a fine line and sooner or later they will fall over it.We'll seeThe judge made the wrong decision, and he will be overturned.I have already agreed that the judge made the right decision based on several reasons. I even agree with some of your legal arguments. But yes they were smeared and wapo allowed it through sloppy and unprofessional journalism. Yes the media also lied by omission which is not a crime nor can one sue for it. Yes the judges reasoning was sound but in fact wapo did smear them and spin the story which demonstrates they are a worthless raq and no better than a tabloidFirst off, he wasn't "smeared", but even if he was, he has to PROVE DAMAGES. He has to prove that the "smear" caused him some quantifiable cost. He wasn't fired, expelled, or forced to move. He wasn't denied any legal rights because of these media attention, nor did he have any material or qualtifiable losses. There is a vast difference between being unhappy about the way you're portrayed in the press, and having a legal case for defamation.
No one lied about Sandmann. No newspaper or media called him racist. Many people called him racist, but not the media. The media coverage was remarkably fair, but conservatives don't like it. Tough!
Stop being such snowflakes whenever somebody says something about you that you don't like, even when it's true. The children behaved horribly. Their minders were negligent, and if they have come into the group of black protestors there, they would have done more than pound a drum in the kid's faces.
When I send my children on a school trip, it's not to protest against women having abortion rights. And I expect the chaperones to keep the children away from other protestors and those who could harm them. These chaperones encouraged the children in a way that would actually cause problems with the other protestors.
Rude, entitled and arrogant, will get you in big trouble every time. The children should not have been in this position in the first place, and that's on their chaperones.
Having said all of that your claims are PROVEN lies
Yes Phillips lied about Sandmann. He lied about being intimidated and he lied about having his way blocked
Sandmann behaved in an excellent manner. It is outstanding behavior to meekly smile and act passively when an aggressor is deliberately getting in your face confronting you and that is all Sandmann did.
The other kids yelled and laughed but that is typical teen behavior and not horrible. The chaperones encouraged nothing of the sort and you are full of ten kinds of crap about protesters. Protesters are everywhere in DC all the time. It does not matter what they were there to do they have every right to do so and not be smeared AS THEY WERE
He was not rude or entitled you sir are a proven coward and liar. The video PROVES beyond question that your narrative is a baldfaced lie
I always side with first amendment protection even when worthless unprofessional journalists abuse it as wapo did.
The smear job on these kids was real,. Wapo did not out right lie about them or smear them but it did an excellent job of generating the narrative through selective editing and unprofessional reporting.
i'm hoping sooner.
Like i said we"ll see
Win or lose I'll enjoy making progressives into fools over this whole sordid mess they keep lying about
There are no vast differences. Other than partisan ones.I see two huge problems here, and I don’t lay all at the feet of the media but at feet of our society that drives and consumes and spreads uncritically the fodder generated by the thousands of outlets that call themselves media and journalists and talking heads.
Sandmann. A 16 yr old kid attending an event. He may or may not have behaved rudely, depends on your point of video view, but it doesn’t matter. What he may or may not have done is hardly newsworthy. He is a typical teen, maybe a little bored, doing nothing wrong. Teen kid being a teen kid. Not news by any means. But some one takes a video, opinionated to their particular slant, and makes a nonevent into something of a crisis for him and his family who had no clue he had even done something wrong. Death threats? Media shredding of a teens charecter and motivation, and worse doubling down on it when debate issues? Unreal!
And if you think Hogg is any different shame on you. He is another kid, who survived a horrendous experience no kid should have, and chose to not just let it be swept under the rug. Whether you agree with his view point or not, shouldn’t matter. He was accused of being a crisis actor, of not even having been there, his personal life was intruded on when Laura Ingraham made fun of him on her show, his family received death threats.
These are the ADULTS behaving in this shameful manner towards KIDS! ADULTS! WTF is wrong with them? And then you (a general sweeping “you”) say itis ok to attack some kids but not others? No! This is not cool. We have lost something here.
There are vast differences between Hogg and Sandmann. Hogg threw his hat in the ring. Sandmann was dragged into it. Hogg is a political activist. Sandmann is not. Hogg goes out to deliberately get media attention for his cause. Sandmann only did a couple of interviews to explain his legal actions against the media. Had not the Indian approached Sandmann and somebody recorded it, nobody would have known his name. Hogg, not so much.
Should Hogg sue the media then?Like i said we"ll see
Win or lose I'll enjoy making progressives into fools over this whole sordid mess they keep lying about
Win or lose, it's costing the defenders of this lawsuit a hell of a lot of money. So even if they do win, they still have a hefty price to pay. The good part about it is that they will be more cautious on what and how they are reporting in the future........hopefully.
If these lawsuits make the media even a tinge more honest, then it's worth it, because much of America is sick of these fictitious reporting antics.
You shouldn’t obsess so much about other people’s anatomy.They are mostly all dead, so how would they collect?May we should offer cash prizes for Darwin Award nominees and winners?a couple. but they're hiding til at least a little growing up happens...one of the best things i've read in this forum in awhile.I see two huge problems here, and I don’t lay all at the feet of the media but at feet of our society that drives and consumes and spreads uncritically the fodder generated by the thousands of outlets that call themselves media and journalists and talking heads.
Sandmann. A 16 yr old kid attending an event. He may or may not have behaved rudely, depends on your point of video view, but it doesn’t matter. What he may or may not have done is hardly newsworthy. He is a typical teen, maybe a little bored, doing nothing wrong. Teen kid being a teen kid. Not news by any means. But some one takes a video, opinionated to their particular slant, and makes a nonevent into something of a crisis for him and his family who had no clue he had even done something wrong. Death threats? Media shredding of a teens charecter and motivation, and worse doubling down on it when debate issues? Unreal!
And if you think Hogg is any different shame on you. He is another kid, who survived a horrendous experience no kid should have, and chose to not just let it be swept under the rug. Whether you agree with his view point or not, shouldn’t matter. He was accused of being a crisis actor, of not even having been there, his personal life was intruded on when Laura Ingraham made fun of him on her show, his family received death threats.
These are the ADULTS behaving in this shameful manner towards KIDS! ADULTS! WTF is wrong with them? And then you (a general sweeping “you”) say itis ok to attack some kids but not others? No! This is not cool. We have lost something here.
we want this confusion or we'd stop doing it to each other.
i can only hope we grow out of it.
Are there any adults left out there?
why does evolution have to be so slow?
However, anyone who receives a sex change operation should receive a Darwin Award.
Should Hogg sue the media then?Like i said we"ll see
Win or lose I'll enjoy making progressives into fools over this whole sordid mess they keep lying about
Win or lose, it's costing the defenders of this lawsuit a hell of a lot of money. So even if they do win, they still have a hefty price to pay. The good part about it is that they will be more cautious on what and how they are reporting in the future........hopefully.
If these lawsuits make the media even a tinge more honest, then it's worth it, because much of America is sick of these fictitious reporting antics.
Defamation.Should Hogg sue the media then?Like i said we"ll see
Win or lose I'll enjoy making progressives into fools over this whole sordid mess they keep lying about
Win or lose, it's costing the defenders of this lawsuit a hell of a lot of money. So even if they do win, they still have a hefty price to pay. The good part about it is that they will be more cautious on what and how they are reporting in the future........hopefully.
If these lawsuits make the media even a tinge more honest, then it's worth it, because much of America is sick of these fictitious reporting antics.
Sue them for what?
There are no vast differences. Other than partisan ones.I see two huge problems here, and I don’t lay all at the feet of the media but at feet of our society that drives and consumes and spreads uncritically the fodder generated by the thousands of outlets that call themselves media and journalists and talking heads.
Sandmann. A 16 yr old kid attending an event. He may or may not have behaved rudely, depends on your point of video view, but it doesn’t matter. What he may or may not have done is hardly newsworthy. He is a typical teen, maybe a little bored, doing nothing wrong. Teen kid being a teen kid. Not news by any means. But some one takes a video, opinionated to their particular slant, and makes a nonevent into something of a crisis for him and his family who had no clue he had even done something wrong. Death threats? Media shredding of a teens charecter and motivation, and worse doubling down on it when debate issues? Unreal!
And if you think Hogg is any different shame on you. He is another kid, who survived a horrendous experience no kid should have, and chose to not just let it be swept under the rug. Whether you agree with his view point or not, shouldn’t matter. He was accused of being a crisis actor, of not even having been there, his personal life was intruded on when Laura Ingraham made fun of him on her show, his family received death threats.
These are the ADULTS behaving in this shameful manner towards KIDS! ADULTS! WTF is wrong with them? And then you (a general sweeping “you”) say itis ok to attack some kids but not others? No! This is not cool. We have lost something here.
There are vast differences between Hogg and Sandmann. Hogg threw his hat in the ring. Sandmann was dragged into it. Hogg is a political activist. Sandmann is not. Hogg goes out to deliberately get media attention for his cause. Sandmann only did a couple of interviews to explain his legal actions against the media. Had not the Indian approached Sandmann and somebody recorded it, nobody would have known his name. Hogg, not so much.
Defamation.Should Hogg sue the media then?Like i said we"ll see
Win or lose I'll enjoy making progressives into fools over this whole sordid mess they keep lying about
Win or lose, it's costing the defenders of this lawsuit a hell of a lot of money. So even if they do win, they still have a hefty price to pay. The good part about it is that they will be more cautious on what and how they are reporting in the future........hopefully.
If these lawsuits make the media even a tinge more honest, then it's worth it, because much of America is sick of these fictitious reporting antics.
Sue them for what?
Defamation.Should Hogg sue the media then?Like i said we"ll see
Win or lose I'll enjoy making progressives into fools over this whole sordid mess they keep lying about
Win or lose, it's costing the defenders of this lawsuit a hell of a lot of money. So even if they do win, they still have a hefty price to pay. The good part about it is that they will be more cautious on what and how they are reporting in the future........hopefully.
If these lawsuits make the media even a tinge more honest, then it's worth it, because much of America is sick of these fictitious reporting antics.
Sue them for what?
So what news outlet was guilty of that?
I already gave examples in this thread.Should Hogg sue the media then?
Did the media smear him? Example?
Yes there areThere are no vast differences. Other than partisan ones.I see two huge problems here, and I don’t lay all at the feet of the media but at feet of our society that drives and consumes and spreads uncritically the fodder generated by the thousands of outlets that call themselves media and journalists and talking heads.
Sandmann. A 16 yr old kid attending an event. He may or may not have behaved rudely, depends on your point of video view, but it doesn’t matter. What he may or may not have done is hardly newsworthy. He is a typical teen, maybe a little bored, doing nothing wrong. Teen kid being a teen kid. Not news by any means. But some one takes a video, opinionated to their particular slant, and makes a nonevent into something of a crisis for him and his family who had no clue he had even done something wrong. Death threats? Media shredding of a teens charecter and motivation, and worse doubling down on it when debate issues? Unreal!
And if you think Hogg is any different shame on you. He is another kid, who survived a horrendous experience no kid should have, and chose to not just let it be swept under the rug. Whether you agree with his view point or not, shouldn’t matter. He was accused of being a crisis actor, of not even having been there, his personal life was intruded on when Laura Ingraham made fun of him on her show, his family received death threats.
These are the ADULTS behaving in this shameful manner towards KIDS! ADULTS! WTF is wrong with them? And then you (a general sweeping “you”) say itis ok to attack some kids but not others? No! This is not cool. We have lost something here.
There are vast differences between Hogg and Sandmann. Hogg threw his hat in the ring. Sandmann was dragged into it. Hogg is a political activist. Sandmann is not. Hogg goes out to deliberately get media attention for his cause. Sandmann only did a couple of interviews to explain his legal actions against the media. Had not the Indian approached Sandmann and somebody recorded it, nobody would have known his name. Hogg, not so much.
Defamation.Should Hogg sue the media then?Win or lose, it's costing the defenders of this lawsuit a hell of a lot of money. So even if they do win, they still have a hefty price to pay. The good part about it is that they will be more cautious on what and how they are reporting in the future........hopefully.
If these lawsuits make the media even a tinge more honest, then it's worth it, because much of America is sick of these fictitious reporting antics.
Sue them for what?
So what news outlet was guilty of that?
Already pointed that out. Media, such as Brietbart, Fox etc. I am sure you could come up with a lengthy list of names that spread false stories.
These two young men are kids. Folks try and make partisan excuses to try to legitimize the terrible way they have been attacked. Enough already.
You mean like saying Ted Cruz's dad helped kill Kennedy?Since when does the First Amendment make it legal to libel someone?
You mean like spending years falsely claiming the President is not qualified to be President because he was born in Kenya?
Like that?
More like when they report the President said all white supremacists are good people.
