The Mystery Of Bernie Sanders Crowds.Did Most Of Them Fail Basic Math?

[Conservative65]

When you're for what she supports...

Am I? Prove it.

Do you support Obamacare and the concepts behind it?

 

[Conservative65]

You, again, ASSume someone not doing something you think they should do can't do it because they choose not to.

Not sure what that means in English, but may we assume that you support all of the GOP candidates?

You said another member should turn off Tapatalk and said because they didn't it meant they didn't know how. That assumes they didn't because they couldn't when it could easily be because they chose not to.

 

[Skylar]

You have to wonder, right? They cheer on all of the "Free-Stuff Bullchit" as if Obama has a surplus of 20 trillion dollars. Maybe we need to get some reporters to attend the rallies and ask some of his uninformed fans where Bernie is going to get the money for free college and health-care when we already owe 18 trillion dollars.
Then we may get answers like "Huh? what?, uh,,,,whats a trillion dollars? is that like a few million?"
Or someone might say, "Uhhh, what? what's a national debt?"

You do realize that most of the things that Bernie spoke of....we already pay for, right?

For example....most of that '20 trillion' is healthcare. We already pay for healthcare. Increasing your taxes by $1200 a year while eliminating the $1200 a year you pay in health insurance premiums is essentially a wash.

The max out of pocket AND the premiums I pay combined are 62.5% of that $1200 you stated.

It was a round number to illustrate the concept. The average family pays $4400 a year out of pocket for healthcare. Some more. Some less.

My premiums costs me nothing as part of my compensation and the max I will pay in a year is $750 based on the specifics of the policy I have.

Do you want to try and explain again how paying $1200/year in taxes is a wash for me?

Given the 20 trillion dollar figure, we're obviously speaking of a national policy. Which would presumably include more than just you. Most of the '20 trillion' in question is for expenses that are already being paid for.

Some folks will end up playing less under single payer. Some more. The average is essentially a wash.

 

[Arianrhod]

...look up the actual donations...

You didn't even click on the link, did you?

Lol yes I did.

Speed-reader, huh? Not much for comprehension, then. Or is it just a matter of being unable to admit you were uninformed?

The Sanders campaign raised $26 million from individual contributions in the same amount of time Hillary raised $28 million from her Very Special Friends.

Overnight following the debate, he raised an additional $1.4 million...all from individual contributions.

 

[thanatos144]

Again all you socialist dumb asses how is Bernie to pay for his socialist wishlists?

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[peach174]

The 'investors' EARNED the money initially. They were taxed once on those earnings. The profit they make is then invested and Bonobo then taxes the profit on the investments.

Bogus argument. Using that logic there should be no sales tax, excise tax, etc., because we are taxed when we earn the money used to buy those taxed items.

If you use your taxed wages to buy, for instance, an airless paint sprayer you are taxed at the going rate on the money you make using that machine.

But if you buy stocks with your taxed wages you pay only 15% on the capital gains.

How does that help anything?

BTW, Obama didn't invent the tax system.

you know they don't get that whole fact-based reality thing

It seems to me that it is the left that don't get the fact based reality thing.
We have 98.6 trillion in unfunded liabilities because of liberal policies. This is a fact based reality yet the left think that number is a lie.
Until the left gets it through their heads that;
The government takes from the haves and gives to the have nots. Both have last their freedom.
Those who have, lost their freedom to give voluntarily of their own free will and in the way they desire. Those who have not, lost their freedom because they did not earn what they received. They got something for nothing, and they will neither appreciate the gift nor the giver of the gift.

Under this climate, people gradually become blind to what has happened and to the vital freedoms which they have lost.
The above is also a true statement.

 

[Arianrhod]

You, again, ASSume someone not doing something you think they should do can't do it because they choose not to.

Not sure what that means in English, but may we assume that you support all of the GOP candidates?

You said another member should turn off Tapatalk and said because they didn't it meant they didn't know how. That assumes they didn't because they couldn't when it could easily be because they chose not to.

See, I thought you were still discussing the topic.

 

[thanatos144]

...look up the actual donations...

You didn't even click on the link, did you?

Lol yes I did.

Speed-reader, huh? Not much for comprehension, then. Or is it just a matter of being unable to admit you were uninformed?

The Sanders campaign raised $26 million from individual contributions in the same amount of time Hillary raised $28 million from her Very Special Friends.

Overnight following the debate, he raised an additional $1.4 million...all from individual contributions.

Now again retard look at whom the donations are from.... look at the pacs you ignorant hillbilly then look at who donated to sanders! They are the same people.

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[Arianrhod]

Again all you socialist dumb asses how is Bernie to pay for his socialist wishlists?

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Your fellow dumbasses can't help you with that because they're just repeating the same non-factual nonsense you believe.

You'd be better off reading the numerous posts that discuss the actuality.

Do you get what you want by insulting people IRL?

 

[Arianrhod]

...look up the actual donations...

You didn't even click on the link, did you?

Lol yes I did.

Speed-reader, huh? Not much for comprehension, then. Or is it just a matter of being unable to admit you were uninformed?

The Sanders campaign raised $26 million from individual contributions in the same amount of time Hillary raised $28 million from her Very Special Friends.

Overnight following the debate, he raised an additional $1.4 million...all from individual contributions.

Now again retard look at whom the donations are from.... look at the pacs you ignorant hillbilly then look at who donated to sanders! They are the same people.

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There's a poster named "hillbilly" here? I'm not familiar with him.

 

[thanatos144]

You, again, ASSume someone not doing something you think they should do can't do it because they choose not to.

Not sure what that means in English, but may we assume that you support all of the GOP candidates?

You said another member should turn off Tapatalk and said because they didn't it meant they didn't know how. That assumes they didn't because they couldn't when it could easily be because they chose not to.

See, I thought you were still discussing the topic.

Gee attacking because the poster is correct?

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[Conservative65]

You have to wonder, right? They cheer on all of the "Free-Stuff Bullchit" as if Obama has a surplus of 20 trillion dollars. Maybe we need to get some reporters to attend the rallies and ask some of his uninformed fans where Bernie is going to get the money for free college and health-care when we already owe 18 trillion dollars.
Then we may get answers like "Huh? what?, uh,,,,whats a trillion dollars? is that like a few million?"
Or someone might say, "Uhhh, what? what's a national debt?"

You do realize that most of the things that Bernie spoke of....we already pay for, right?

For example....most of that '20 trillion' is healthcare. We already pay for healthcare. Increasing your taxes by $1200 a year while eliminating the $1200 a year you pay in health insurance premiums is essentially a wash.

The max out of pocket AND the premiums I pay combined are 62.5% of that $1200 you stated.

It was a round number to illustrate the concept. The average family pays $4400 a year out of pocket for healthcare. Some more. Some less.

My premiums costs me nothing as part of my compensation and the max I will pay in a year is $750 based on the specifics of the policy I have.

Do you want to try and explain again how paying $1200/year in taxes is a wash for me?

Given the 20 trillion dollar figure, we're obviously speaking of a national policy. Which would presumably include more than just you. Most of the '20 trillion' in question is for expenses that are already being paid for.

Some folks will end up playing less under single payer. Some more. The average is essentially a wash.

You have to wonder, right? They cheer on all of the "Free-Stuff Bullchit" as if Obama has a surplus of 20 trillion dollars. Maybe we need to get some reporters to attend the rallies and ask some of his uninformed fans where Bernie is going to get the money for free college and health-care when we already owe 18 trillion dollars.
Then we may get answers like "Huh? what?, uh,,,,whats a trillion dollars? is that like a few million?"
Or someone might say, "Uhhh, what? what's a national debt?"

You do realize that most of the things that Bernie spoke of....we already pay for, right?

For example....most of that '20 trillion' is healthcare. We already pay for healthcare. Increasing your taxes by $1200 a year while eliminating the $1200 a year you pay in health insurance premiums is essentially a wash.

The max out of pocket AND the premiums I pay combined are 62.5% of that $1200 you stated.

It was a round number to illustrate the concept. The average family pays $4400 a year out of pocket for healthcare. Some more. Some less.

My premiums costs me nothing as part of my compensation and the max I will pay in a year is $750 based on the specifics of the policy I have.

Do you want to try and explain again how paying $1200/year in taxes is a wash for me?

Given the 20 trillion dollar figure, we're obviously speaking of a national policy. Which would presumably include more than just you. Most of the '20 trillion' in question is for expenses that are already being paid for.

Some folks will end up playing less under single payer. Some more. The average is essentially a wash.

National policy or local policy. I used your numbers.

Since you can't provide anything but round numbers, explain why I should trust you have a clue when it comes to the statement that it would be a wash. If you're going to make that claim, you should have something to back it up other than round numbers.

If we're all getting the same coverage under single payer, why would some pay more and some pay less. I thought you guys were about equality. Seems that only means something when you get not when you have to contribute.

At least be honest. You believe that everyone deserves the same thing with healthcare despite not paying the same.

 

[rightwinger]

your confusion is apparent. while it is likely that all socialists are liberal, not all liberals are socialist.

so I reiterate.... education is important. you should probably get one beyond the rantings of the rightwingnut blogosphere.

Yet you can't provide even one example of a conservative socialist.

Education is important. That's why I am educated. Don't confuse your indoctrination with being educated. They aren't the same thing.

again, read my post. I don't need to.... all socialists are likely liberal.

not all liberals are socialist.

so please trying to read with comprehension little boy. you're sounding really absurd and ignorant.

All socialists ARE liberal not just likely.

Under what Liberal means today from an economic sense, I disagree with your statement that not all Liberals are socialists.

If that is the case, Conservatives are socialists also

They just want their socialist government to do other things

Only because you don't understand what makes a true conservative.

Is the military socialist?

How about schools, police, fire, infrastructure?

Whay are only programs that directly help people considered socialist while other government functions are not?

 

[thanatos144]

...look up the actual donations...

You didn't even click on the link, did you?

Lol yes I did.

Speed-reader, huh? Not much for comprehension, then. Or is it just a matter of being unable to admit you were uninformed?

The Sanders campaign raised $26 million from individual contributions in the same amount of time Hillary raised $28 million from her Very Special Friends.

Overnight following the debate, he raised an additional $1.4 million...all from individual contributions.

Now again retard look at whom the donations are from.... look at the pacs you ignorant hillbilly then look at who donated to sanders! They are the same people.

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There's a poster named "hillbilly" here? I'm not familiar with him.

Go back to smoking your weed.

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[Arianrhod]

Gee attacking because the poster is correct?

If you think I'm correct, why do you keep attacking me?

 

[thanatos144]

Yet you can't provide even one example of a conservative socialist.

Education is important. That's why I am educated. Don't confuse your indoctrination with being educated. They aren't the same thing.

again, read my post. I don't need to.... all socialists are likely liberal.

not all liberals are socialist.

so please trying to read with comprehension little boy. you're sounding really absurd and ignorant.

All socialists ARE liberal not just likely.

Under what Liberal means today from an economic sense, I disagree with your statement that not all Liberals are socialists.

If that is the case, Conservatives are socialists also

They just want their socialist government to do other things

Only because you don't understand what makes a true conservative.

Is the military socialist?

How about schools, police, fire, infrastructure?

Whay are only programs that directly help people considered socialist while other government functions are not?

Dummy do stop trying to argue stupid shit. Do you expect soldiers to fight and die for no money? Who am I kidding yiu are a progressive you hate soldiers.

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[jillian]

You didn't even click on the link, did you?

Lol yes I did.

Speed-reader, huh? Not much for comprehension, then. Or is it just a matter of being unable to admit you were uninformed?

The Sanders campaign raised $26 million from individual contributions in the same amount of time Hillary raised $28 million from her Very Special Friends.

Overnight following the debate, he raised an additional $1.4 million...all from individual contributions.

Now again retard look at whom the donations are from.... look at the pacs you ignorant hillbilly then look at who donated to sanders! They are the same people.

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There's a poster named "hillbilly" here? I'm not familiar with him.

Go back to smoking your weed.

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you should probably stop projecting.

 

[thanatos144]

Lol yes I did.

Speed-reader, huh? Not much for comprehension, then. Or is it just a matter of being unable to admit you were uninformed?

The Sanders campaign raised $26 million from individual contributions in the same amount of time Hillary raised $28 million from her Very Special Friends.

Overnight following the debate, he raised an additional $1.4 million...all from individual contributions.

Now again retard look at whom the donations are from.... look at the pacs you ignorant hillbilly then look at who donated to sanders! They are the same people.

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There's a poster named "hillbilly" here? I'm not familiar with him.

Go back to smoking your weed.

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you should probably stop projecting.

Unlike you I don't do drugs. I also read books and can do simple math

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[peach174]

The 'investors' EARNED the money initially. They were taxed once on those earnings. The profit they make is then invested and Bonobo then taxes the profit on the investments.

Bogus argument. Using that logic there should be no sales tax, excise tax, etc., because we are taxed when we earn the money used to buy those taxed items.

If you use your taxed wages to buy, for instance, an airless paint sprayer you are taxed at the going rate on the money you make using that machine.

But if you buy stocks with your taxed wages you pay only 15% on the capital gains.

How does that help anything?

BTW, Obama didn't invent the tax system.

we have a problem with guns because of people who think they still live in the wild west

Guns has nothing to do with this tread.
Go to many of the other threads out there on the board talking about guns.

 

[Conservative65]

Yet you can't provide even one example of a conservative socialist.

Education is important. That's why I am educated. Don't confuse your indoctrination with being educated. They aren't the same thing.

again, read my post. I don't need to.... all socialists are likely liberal.

not all liberals are socialist.

so please trying to read with comprehension little boy. you're sounding really absurd and ignorant.

All socialists ARE liberal not just likely.

Under what Liberal means today from an economic sense, I disagree with your statement that not all Liberals are socialists.

If that is the case, Conservatives are socialists also

They just want their socialist government to do other things

Only because you don't understand what makes a true conservative.

Is the military socialist?

How about schools, police, fire, infrastructure?

Whay are only programs that directly help people considered socialist while other government functions are not?

The military, as an entity is not socialist.

While schools are primarily Liberal controlled and try to indoctrinate socialist principles into students, the entity is not socialist. Fire, police, infrastructure no.

What makes social welfare programs socialist is that those doing the receiving aren't doing the funding and vice versa.