JoeB131
Diamond Member
Coming from the guy who won't vote for him because he's a Mormon; that's rich. Taking your rights for granted is a hubris that many women simply cannot afford but if you are to play the devil's advocate, at the very least mine is a policy matter; your reason not to vote for him is religious. If that floats your boat; fine but you're not electing a spiritual leader, you're electing a President.
I think you still miss my point about my objections to LDS. I could explain them to you again, but you probably still won't get it.
My problem with LDS is not religious. I think all religions are equally bogus and stupid. It's cultural. They are a culture of liars and crazy people who are only out for themselves. They're a cult. And cultists are always scary, not necessarily for what they believe, but because of their fanaticism.
On the subject of rights, I don't think there is a right to an abortion. (I also find the notion of 'rights' to be laughable, but that another discussion. Look up "Japanese Americans-1942") There is a body of law, and frankly, if your whole thing hinges on one unelected justice, it was a bad system of laws.
Supreme court terms are incredibly long which is why you've heard this very real concern for so many years. Those terms are at the outset of ending in the next four years....4 of the justices are over 70 y/o.
He says he wants Roe overturned.
He likely would have the opportunity to do that if he becomes President.
South Dakota? Yeah, so will Texas; 14 million women (give or take) live there....do you think for a moment that Texas would not outlaw abortions? The GOP is trying to outlaw critical thinking--it's in their State Party's platform.
Once again, guy, we've been hearing this shit since Reagan. It was shit in 1980, it's shit now.
I ain't buying it.
And incidently, since 1980, I've gone from being pro-life to pro-choice, not because I think Abortion is a wonderful thing, but because as a practical matter, you can't effectively outlaw it.
I also think Roe was a truly awful decision. Pure "I want to do it this way, so I will." But Republicans have appointed EIGHT- count them - EIGHT justices and two Chief Justices since Roe, and guess what.
Roe still stands, flaws and all.
And frankly, given the way he's flip-flopped on the issue, I'd be less worried about the Weird Mormon Robot appointing an anti-Choice justice than Santorum or McCain or Huckabee.
But it might actually be a good thing if they overturned Roe. Then we could have a national discussion on the issue we should have had back in the 1970's.