The Obesity Epidemic

[Carl in Michigan]

Do you believe that anyone who eats meat is cruel?

Have you ever seen what goes on on modern farms?

 

[Woodznutz]

Exploring a World without Food Animals : USDA ARS

www.ars.usda.gov

"A complete shift away from food animal production would present major challenges to meeting America's nutritional needs. With no meat, milk, eggs, fish, or cheese in our diets, the U.S. population would not receive enough of several different essential dietary nutrients from the foods they eat, according to the study results. The findings are based on information compiled in the USDA dietary guidelines."

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Exploring a World without Food Animals : USDA ARS

www.ars.usda.gov

"A complete shift away from food animal production would present major challenges to meeting America's nutritional needs. With no meat, milk, eggs, fish, or cheese in our diets, the U.S. population would not receive enough of several different essential dietary nutrients from the foods they eat, according to the study results. The findings are based on information compiled in the USDA dietary guidelines."

It's easier AND CHEAPER. And this modern generation wouldn't be obese.

If you eat a NATURAL DIET, it is impossible to get to a calorie surplus before you feel full

 

[Woodznutz]

The problem isn't eating meat per se, but eating too much meat, and meat that has been 'cured' with nitrites and nitrates.

 

[Woodznutz]

It's easier AND CHEAPER. And this modern generation wouldn't be obese.

If you eat a NATURAL DIET, it is impossible to get to a calorie surplus before you feel full

Meat, milk, fish, eggs are part of a 'natural' diet for humans.

The vegan diet would impoverish millions who are associated with animal agriculture. As a meat cutter I made more money than others in the retail food business as I had more skills. Veganism would 'dumb down' our whole society as hundreds of high paid skills would no longer be needed leading to massive unemployment.

 

[buttercup]

Exploring a World without Food Animals : USDA ARS

www.ars.usda.gov

"A complete shift away from food animal production would present major challenges to meeting America's nutritional needs. With no meat, milk, eggs, fish, or cheese in our diets, the U.S. population would not receive enough of several different essential dietary nutrients from the foods they eat, according to the study results. The findings are based on information compiled in the USDA dietary guidelines."

That is flatly false. I'm just going to do a copy pasta of something I posted on another thread recently.


Position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics

It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.

The Mayo Clinic

A well-planned vegetarian diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women. The key is to be aware of your nutritional needs so that you plan a diet that meets them.

Harvard Medical School

Traditionally, research into vegetarianism focused mainly on potential nutritional deficiencies, but in recent years, the pendulum has swung the other way, and studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses.

Dietitians of Canada

A healthy vegan diet can meet all your nutrient needs at any stage of life including when you are pregnant, breastfeeding or for older adults.

British Dietetic Association

Well planned vegetarian diets (see context) can be nutritious and healthy. They are associated with lower risks of heart disease, high blood pressure, Type 2 diabetes, obesity, certain cancers and lower cholesterol levels. This could be because such diets are lower in saturated fat, contain fewer calories and more fiber and phytonutrients/phytochemicals (these can have protective properties) than non-vegetarian diets. (...) Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life and have many benefits.

The British National Health Service

With good planning and an understanding of what makes up a healthy, balanced vegan diet, you can get all the nutrients your body needs.

The Dietitians Association of Australia

Vegan diets differ to other vegetarian diets in that no animal products are consumed or used. Despite these restrictions, with good planning it is still possible to obtain all the nutrients required for good health on a vegan diet.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Meat, milk, fish, eggs are part of a 'natural' diet for humans.

The vegan diet would impoverish millions who are associated with animal agriculture. As a meat cutter I made more money than others in the retail food business as I had more skills. Veganism would 'dumb down' our whole society as hundreds of high paid skills would no longer be needed leading to massive unemployment.

No. None of this is true.

IF health and fitness is your latest excuse, download Dr. Greger's Daily Dozen App. But we both know it just the latest if endless excuses to throw against the wall in the hope that SOMETHING sticks

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Despite these restrictions, with good planning it is still possible to obtain all the nutrients required for good health on a vegan diet

The ONLY problem I have with this is they make it sound like it's some kind of "chore" to be healthy on a natural diet. It is not. I would compare any vegan with any modern carnivore. The vegan is healthy and will live lobger

 

[Woodznutz]

I'm just going to do a copy pasta of something I posted on another thread recently.


Position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics

It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes. Plant-based diets are more environmentally sustainable than diets rich in animal products because they use fewer natural resources and are associated with much less environmental damage. Vegetarians and vegans are at reduced risk of certain health conditions, including ischemic heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension, certain types of cancer, and obesity.

The Mayo Clinic

A well-planned vegetarian diet can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women. The key is to be aware of your nutritional needs so that you plan a diet that meets them.

Harvard Medical School

Traditionally, research into vegetarianism focused mainly on potential nutritional deficiencies, but in recent years, the pendulum has swung the other way, and studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses.

Dietitians of Canada

A healthy vegan diet can meet all your nutrient needs at any stage of life including when you are pregnant, breastfeeding or for older adults.

British Dietetic Association

Well planned vegetarian diets (see context) can be nutritious and healthy. They are associated with lower risks of heart disease, high blood pressure, Type 2 diabetes, obesity, certain cancers and lower cholesterol levels. This could be because such diets are lower in saturated fat, contain fewer calories and more fiber and phytonutrients/phytochemicals (these can have protective properties) than non-vegetarian diets. (...) Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life and have many benefits.

The British National Health Service

With good planning and an understanding of what makes up a healthy, balanced vegan diet, you can get all the nutrients your body needs.

The Dietitians Association of Australia

Vegan diets differ to other vegetarian diets in that no animal products are consumed or used. Despite these restrictions, with good planning it is still possible to obtain all the nutrients required for good health on a vegan diet.

The 'Achilles Heel' in all this is "good planning and understanding" requirement. No more needs to be said as most people are unwilling or incapable of doing this. However, with a diet rich in animal products no such requirement is required.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The 'Achilles Heel' in all this is "good planning and understanding" requirement. No more needs to be said as most people are unwilling or incapable of doing this. However, with a diet rich in animal products no such requirement is required.

You know better than that

 

[Woodznutz]

No. None of this is true.

IF health and fitness is your latest excuse, download Dr. Greger's Daily Dozen App. But we both know it just the latest if endless excuses to throw against the wall in the hope that SOMETHING sticks

Do you think meat eaters have to make 'excuses' to vegans for their food choices? That is pretty arrogant.

 

[buttercup]

The ONLY problem I have with this is they make it sound like it's some kind of "chore" to be healthy on a natural diet. It is not. I would compare any vegan with any modern carnivore. The vegan is healthy and will live lobger

Good point, I agree with you on that. I have found that it's not at all difficult to be vegan, and those quotes do make it sound like it's something that needs to be planned out. It really just takes common sense, and like with any diet it should be balanced. It's not rocket science.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You KNOW this is a pretty typical American

 

[Woodznutz]

You know better than that

People aren't going to give up meat. Vegans should just be happy that they are superior and let it go at that.

 

[gipper]

And the world would be richer if humans were strong enough to choose kindness over cruelty

And do you think this means not eating animal flesh?

I’d be satisfied with world peace.

 

[gipper]

People aren't going to give up meat. Vegans should just be happy that they are superior and let it go at that.

I can assure you, they won’t be happy. They are very unhappy authoritarians.

 

[Woodznutz]

The vegan is healthy and will live longer

There is no definitive proof that diet alone accounts for this. Vegans generally live a less stressful life. I also live a stress-free life, and I eat animal products. I have outlived most everyone.

 

[Woodznutz]

I can assure you, they won’t be happy. They are very unhappy authoritarians.

I get that. I too wish the world would march to my tune. Everyone would enjoy the peace, health, and prosperity that I enjoy.

 

[gipper]

The ONLY problem I have with this is they make it sound like it's some kind of "chore" to be healthy on a natural diet. It is not. I would compare any vegan with any modern carnivore. The vegan is healthy and will live lobger

No they don’t. They live unhealthy shorter lives.

 

[gipper]

The ONLY problem I have with this is they make it sound like it's some kind of "chore" to be healthy on a natural diet. It is not. I would compare any vegan with any modern carnivore. The vegan is healthy and will live lobger

Your posts are proof of THIS….