The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[Sunshine]

Zimmerman can't use the Public Defenders on the civil suit.

But O'Mara will be back taking public money on the stalker charge.

It was self defense. He cannot be sued for wrongful death. Zimmerman is the one who gets to do the suing now.

Zimmerman was acquitted of murder.

"self defense" was not part of the indictment or jury decision.

It was pled in as an affirmative defense. The defense is NEVER part of the indictment. DUH.

 

[DiamondDave]

MarkAtl.. racist to the core... excuse maker like none other

 

[Katzndogz]

You don't ?

Then the Martin's will have to pay for filing it per Florida law.

I don't think that's a problem.

Trayvon Martin?s family settles wrongful death lawsuit with Sanford, Florida, homeowner?s association - NY Daily News

I've posted this before, too. The suit filed against Zimmerman's HOA did not even go to court. The HOA settled quickly for over $1,000,000+. That speaks volumes to what happened.

And just as the Goldman's did with OJ Simpson, the Martins can sue for wrongful death but this time Zimmerman will have money that can be taken, unlike Simpson who only had his NFL retirement, which was exempted.

There will be no civil suit against Zimmerman because he has blanket immunity. The HOA never had any immunity. They settled quickly so the entire complex wasn't burned down. The suit against the HOA was based on negligence for failing to properly maintain security.

Zimmerman though has a MAJOR lawsuit against the networks and has a slam dunk case against CBS. He also has a case against the Sanford Police Department and the county for prosecuting him in the first place.

There can be no stalking charge because there was no stalking. Stalking is an action that is repeated. Since there never was repeated stalking there can be no charge.

 

[SuMar]

Mr. Zimmerman received a fair trial, justice was served case closed!! Time for all you self defense haters to move on.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Do you believe that if you're attacked you have the right to defend yourself? Let's say someone is bashing your head into the ground does that give you a right to use "deadly" force(gun, knife, etc) in order to save your own life.

It depends. Let's say you're a punk stalking someone else and he or she gets pissed and kicks your ass. Do you have the right to kill them?

Nope, I think not. Cry, scream, whine, apologize, but don't kill them. If you do you're going to hell no matter what a jury decides.

Awww.... Puddum upset because of the not guilty verdict?
Aww., poor puddum.

 

[KissMy]

Lets hope Zimmerman's life is destroyed since I and a lot of people think he committed murder. Just like OJ, remember.

I hope to God the Martin's sues him, attached themselves to every single penny he makes for life and he looks back on that shooting, not as a NRA victory, but a life changing/destroying night.

Now lets all take a second out of respect for the Martins tonight. Imagine how bad they must feel. Knowing they lost a son fo on damn reason.

You are a low IQ racist who hopes & dreams of injustice. Fuck you & the Martins. They knew Trayvon was a violent racist druggie thief thug beyond just being kicked out of school. Both of his moms had to kick him out of their homes. The fact that the parents orchestrated this lie about that & used his death to make money & fame is disgusting.

In his own text Trayvon refers to himself as a “gangsta.”

 

[Sunshine]

The racism came from the decision to charge Zimmerman after Sharpton and his minions made a stink and Obama declared if he had a son it would look like Trayvon. Were it not for that Zimmerman would have been a free man that very night.

lol.... you are a hoot..

here- the play by play as to how and why, we got here;


February 26, 2012 - George Zimmerman Shoots and Kills Trayvon Martin

Zimmerman claims self-defense. After an investigation, the police agree and decide not to press charges.



March 8, 2012 - The AP Falsely Describes Zimmerman as "White"

The story of the grieving parents of Trayvon Martin demanding Zimmerman be arrested first achieves national attention on March 8 when CBS This Morning runs a report.

Later that same day, the Associated Press throws the first log on the racial fire by inaccurately describing Zimmerman as white.



March 13, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Uses MSNBC Platform to Stoke Phony Racial Narrative

Breitbart editor-in-chief Joel Pollak:

Sharpton devoted a portion of his program on MSNBC, PoliticsNation, to the Trayvon Martin case. He interviewed Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, who reiterated the accusation that Zimmerman was “white”: “We think Trayvon Martin didn’t know who the heck this white man was who approached him before he got killed.”

Earlier that same day, Sharpton's National Action Network released a statement calling for...

...a “complete and thorough investigation” into Martin’s death. He added: “[W]e are told that racial language was used when the young man reported his suspicions to police[.]”

The story about Zimmerman's use of racial language was false.



March 13, 2012 - ABC News Reporter Claims Trayvon Shot Because "He Was Black"

About ten days before Al Sharpton and President Obama would launch the Zimmerman story into the stratosphere, Matt Gutman, an ABC News correspondent based in Miami, Florida, was already (and without a shred of evidence) laying the track for a racial narrative.

Gutman covered the case for the network, and his Twitter feed at the time was full of falsehoods, innuendo, and irresponsible speculation. In one tweet, Gutman came right out and claimed Trayvon was shot "bc [because] he was black."

Gutman would also recklessly accuse Zimmerman of "stalking" and shooting down Trayvon.


March 19, 2012 - CBS News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Is White

A small detail that the Obama administration and the media apparently missed was that the white versus black racial narrative they were preparing to invest so much into was missing just one thing: a white person.

Proof of this is that CBS News falsely claimed Zimmerman was white about a week before the story exploded.

In their venomous zeal, the media and Democrats likely assumed that someone with the last name Zimmerman had to be white. But they were wrong, as Zimmerman is Hispanic.

Never ones to back off a good narrative, rather than use this revelation to tamp down tensions or correct their reporting, the media simply made up out of whole cloth a new racial category: the "white Hispanic."



March 22, 2012 - Zimmerman Described as a "White Hispanic" by The New York Times

Just in the nick of time, before the story was engineered to explode the very next day with the Sharpton rally, The New York Times put its stamp of approval on the term "white Hispanic."


March 21, 2012 - CNN Falsely Accuses Zimmerman of Saying "F**king Coon"

Knowing full well the phony racial storm brewing around the Zimmerman case was about to have gasoline thrown on it the next day, CNN went to extraordinary lengths to claim Zimmerman had uttered the racial slur "coon" when he had not.

This has to be watched to be believed.

CNN wouldn't officially retract their defamation until April 5th, long after it was too late.



March 22, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Goes to Florida

Though the police had investigated the shooting and saw no reason to charge George Zimmerman, in March of 2012, President Obama's reelection chances looked dim. He would need the crucial swing state of Florida to win another four years, and nothing brings out the Democrat vote like a good old racial bonfire.

With the help of thousands of dollars from Obama's Justice Department, it was then that Rev. Al Sharpton (anchor of MSNBC's Politics Nation) held his incendiary rally:

At the protest, Sharpton was flanked by Martin's parents. "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," he said. "Trayvon could have been any one of us."

He continued:

"We are tired of going to jail for nothing and others going home for something. Zimmerman should have been arrested that night ... you cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don't talk to us like we're stupid! Don't talk to us like we're ignorant! We love our children like you love yours. Lock him up!"

Sharpton said that he would stay on the case.

"We cannot allow a legal precedent to be established in this city that tells us it is legal for a man to kill us, tell any story he wants, and walks out with the murder weapon," he said.


March 23, 2012 - President Obama Repeats Sharpton's Talking Point

The day after Sharpton held his rally and said, "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," President Obama made huge news when he stepped before the cameras, demanded action in the Zimmerman case, and famously said, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."

In just two days, a network news anchor and an American president had blasted the Zimmerman case into the nation's top story and did so based on a racial narrative without a shred of evidence to support it. Almost every other major news outlet would now commit every journalistic sin imaginable to fabricate evidence.



March 24, 2012 - Reuters Describes Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic"

To keep the white versus black narrative alive, Reuters jumps on the ridiculous "white Hispanic" bandwagon.

Many others would follow.


March 27, 2012 - NBC News Edits 911 Audio to Make Zimmerman Look Racist

On the storied Today Show, NBC News told America Zimmerman said this on the 911 call:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.

When the truth is that the unedited audio actually went like this:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

After the fraudulent editing was discovered by the New Media (first by Breitbart News), former NBC News president Steve Capus would claim that the edit was "a mistake and not a deliberate act to misrepresent the phone call."

Eventually, several NBC producers would be fired (without being named), and Zimmerman would file a lawsuit against NBC; it remains unresolved.



March 28, 2012 - ABC News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Wasn't Injured Night of Shooting

The day after NBC News released its falsified 911 bombshell, ABC News released a phony, hyped-up story of its own. Using grainy surveillance video of Zimmerman at the police station on the night of the shooting, ABC News claimed, "A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman."

Obviously, if true, this would go a long way towards proving Zimmerman was not in fear of his life the night of the shooting and had lied about being beaten up.

The only problem is that the ABC News story was not true -- not even close. The network didn't bother to enhance the video before breaking the news. Had they, Zimmerman's bloody head would have been quite apparent.

It would take four days for ABC to retract its falsehood.



March 28, 2012 - Boston Globe Falsely Describes Zimmerman as White

By late March it was widely known that George Zimmerman was Hispanic. This did not stop the Boston Globe from using its pages to describe him as "a white neighborhood watch captain."

This error has never been corrected.


March 29, 2012 - NBC's Chris Matthews Contradicts Guest to Claim Zimmerman Not Injured

By the next day, ABC's false story about Zimmerman not being injured had already gone viral. However, some were already doing the job ABC apparently didn't want to do: enhancing the video. A guest on MSNBC's Hardball told the show's host, Chris Matthews, that his enhancement did show bruises on the back of Zimmerman's head. MSNBC even broadcast the enhancement, which clearly showed cuts and bruising.

Regardless, during the same show, Matthews stridently claimed:

George Zimmerman says he shot Trayvon Martin after Trayvon broke his nose and repeatedly slammed the back of his head into a concrete sidewalk, but newly released video tape of Zimmerman arriving at the police station--we're looking at it there--appears to show no evidence of a broken nose or obvious wounds to the back of Zimmerman's head.



Late March, 2012 - Zimmerman's "Black Friend" Vilified by Media

Even though Zimmerman is Hispanic and there was no evidence of any racial motivation behind his actions, the media's racial-hysteria was, at this point, in full bloom. To try and tamp things down, Joe Oliver, a black reporter who had worked with CNN and an Orlando television station, started doing the national media interview rounds to speak on behalf of his friend, George Zimmerman.

The counterattack in the media (CNN, New York Times, and MSNBC, among others) was exceptionally vicious, personal, and effective.

Oliver went away.



April 1, 2012 - The New York Times Maliciously Edits Zimmerman's 911 Call

Although the NBC News malicious edit of Zimmerman's 911 call broadcast on the Today Show had already been loudly and publicly debunked, days later the New York Times did the same thing on its front page.

By rearranging the words of the call, the Times falsely made it look as though Zimmerman had profiled Trayvon as black:

Here is the 911 call transcript:

ZIMMERMAN: This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

911 DISPATCHER: Okay. And this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic?

ZIMMERMAN: He looks black.

And here is what the Times reported:

“Hey, we’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood,” Mr. Zimmerman said to start the conversation with the dispatcher. “And there’s a real suspicious guy.”

This guy seemed to be up to no good; like he was on drugs or something; in a gray hoodie. Asked to describe him further, he said, “He looks black.”

The print edition of the story was even worse than the online edition.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/02/u...-a-review-of-ideals.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&



April 9, 2012 - PBS Anchor Gwen Ifill Describes Zimmerman as "White"

Desperate to keep a non-existent racial narrative alive, during a broadcast of the PBS Newshour Gwen Ifill falsely stated:

Martin, who was black, was on his way to a convenience store in a mostly white gated community when George Zimmerman, who is white, shot and killed him after a disputed altercation.

Note Ifill's reporting of Zimmerman's gated community. The condos in Zimmerman's neighborhood sell for about $120,000.



April 11, 2012 - George Zimmerman Is Arrested, Charged with Second Degree Murder


After the arrest, and as the trial date neared the following year, NBC would allow Al Sharpton to turn his primetime MSNBC show into a platform dedicated to convicting Zimmerman.

CNN would continue to refer to Zimmerman as a "white Hispanic" and broadcast all of Zimmerman's personal information, including his social security number, address, and telephone number.


Guilty Until Proven Innocent: How the Press Prosecuted Zimmerman While Stoking Racial Tensions

Our forefathers created this country so they and their descendants would not have to fear the government. They created a 'free' press to aid in that and to keep the actions of government open. Now, it is the press we must ALL fear. Any of us could find ourselves in a similar scenario. Any of us.

 

[Caroljo]

If there were six black women on that jury instead of six white women, you really think we'd have the same outcome?

sorry, clown boy, but everything in this country is not decided based on race. The prosecutor chose those jurers, I am sure there were blacks in the jury pool that could have been chosen.

de la Rionda didn't dare pick a black jurist - he'd lose his job.

They probably couldn't find any blacks in the pool that weren't racist and hadn't already made up their minds on this! I know there are blacks out there that aren't racist, and I know of some that thought this trial was a farce....but just not in the Sanford area!

 

[M14 Shooter]

WTF are you scared of in Montana that you feel the need to carry? Is having the gun just make you feel safer?

I have lived what I think is a long time and I know of no instance that I ever needed a gun nor do I know of anyone who has had need of a gun, other then hunting. I spent my youth growing up in a major city and lived on the road for 2 years without so much as a credit card.

My brother carries a gun everywhere and I keep asking him why. Who exactly is he afraid of? Any criminal that is good at their trade and wants what you have will take it regardless of your gun. I knew of a guy that had an extensive gun collection, and had it all stolen. Carrying guns didn't help him one bit. I think if I had a gun I might become even a bigger ahole in that I might not be thinking of the consequences of a confrontation quite so much.

BTW, none of the above is to imply I think you foolish to carry a gun. You do what is right for you. Me, I can't keep track of my cell phone I seriously doubt I need to, or should, carry a gun.

You don't want to carry? Then don't. I am not an "ahole" as you claim that you might be. I don't look for trouble. However, if it comes calling, I'm prepared. You, on the other hand, are another victim.

I've never been a victim (of anything other than my own stupidity) in my life. I have no intention of becoming one now.

A bit touchy are you Randy? All I asked is what is you reasoning for carrying a gun.

Funny how you did not respond to -my- answer.

 

[longknife]

Zimmerman can't use the Public Defenders on the civil suit.

But O'Mara will be back taking public money on the stalker charge.

Zimmerman will stay in hiding - BUT he's gonna make lots of $$$$$ telling his stories - and the lawyers are going after it for all they're worth!

 

[Sunshine]

We can be relieved that the system worked. We cannot be relieved that the press facilitated anything but racism and destruction of the innocent.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

This trial has shown us that the constant accusations of racism from the left directed at Conservatives is total BS. You guys got the market cornered.
I have never in my life seen such blatant disregard of evidence that clearly supports GZs account of what happened that night.
And the only plausible reason for this willful blindness is race.

 

[thanatos144]

as long as some stupid ghetto rat doesn't try to kill him

 

[Jarlaxle]

You don't ?

Then the Martin's will have to pay for filing it per Florida law.

I don't think that's a problem.

Trayvon Martin?s family settles wrongful death lawsuit with Sanford, Florida, homeowner?s association - NY Daily News

I've posted this before, too. The suit filed against Zimmerman's HOA did not even go to court. The HOA settled quickly for over $1,000,000+. That speaks volumes to what happened.

And just as the Goldman's did with OJ Simpson, the Martins can sue for wrongful death but this time Zimmerman will have money that can be taken, unlike Simpson who only had his NFL retirement, which was exempted.

Yes: the HOA decided it was cheaper to write a check and be done than to fight it...happens all the time and has no bearing whatsoever on the merits of the case.

 

[Misty]

You are the dumbest poster I have seen on this forum. Isn't it past your bed time, junior?

Creepy ass cracker is still racist. You can be racist against white people. I know it's hard to believe since it's rarely reported.

 

[Trajan]

I hope the jury takes a few days to deliberate. I'd like to feel like they took this very seriously and spent time going over all evidence, the instructions from the judge and all testimony from both sides.

Yes..they did take it very seriously.

That decided that open season on black kids is just peachy.

open season sounds to me like whats going on in Chicago.......



In Violent Holiday Weekend, 9 Dead And 48 Injured From Chicago Shootings

Perry Stein 1:28 PM EDT, Sunday July 7, 2013

Chicago had a violent Fourth Of July weekend, with nine dead and 48 injured from shootings across the city as of Sunday morning.

Two boys are among the injured, according to the Chicago Sun-Times.

The latest deadly shooting occurred Saturday evening on the West Side, when a spary of bullets hit seven people, leaving a 48-year-old man dead.


In Violent Holiday Weekend, 9 Dead And 48 Injured From Chicago Shootings | TPM LiveWire




so, you have any of that idiotic vitriol to spare for these folks, or is it just another holiday weekend in Chicago? Or does your programming run just one way?




oh wait, theres an update, -



By Staff Report
| Monday, Jul 8, 2013 | Updated 8:48 AM

Source: 72 Shot in Chicago in Wave of Holiday Weekend Violence | NBC Chicago

 

[Avatar4321]

Count on it.

We are far beyond the point where there will be any healing between races.

we are never too far for forgiveness

 

[Cowman]

So I take it that you were wrong, justice prevailed, in the case of OJ Simpson?

Give me a fucking break.

 

[Katzndogz]

I don't think that's a problem.

Trayvon Martin?s family settles wrongful death lawsuit with Sanford, Florida, homeowner?s association - NY Daily News

So they file a suit .....it goes to court .......the judge has to throw it out per Florida law and the filing party pays all costs.

Nope....civil suit is coming...just like the Goldmans did to O.J.

I'm going to explain the difference between OJ and Zimmerman.

In the OJ case, he was charged with murder. His defense was he didn't do it. Someone else did it. He was found not guilty because the state never met its burden that he committed the murders beyond a reasonable doubt. The Goldman's sued in civil court which has a lower standard of proof. They only needed to prove that it was more likely that he did it, than someone else.

In the Zimmerman case, the identity of the killer was never in doubt and the prosecution was never in the position of having to prove that it was Zimmerman and no one else. The act was admitted to in the very beginning. The killing of Trayvon Martin was justified as a matter of law.

California does not have a stand your ground law that provides the kind of blanket immunity that Florida has. Which is ANOTHER reason why there can be no civil suit.

 

[Ernie S.]

I would love to see the IRS look into zimmerman's finances.

I'll bet he has not paid a nickel of taxes on his donation money.

I think I'll write them about that.

How much have the Martins paid on the donations they received?