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I must say that this court room looks better than the Arias one.
Imo, that's stalking.
Such thinking is ridiculous.
How the fuck could it be "stalking" to follow around a person you find suspicious in a residential neighborhood some evening?
Words have meaning. Get to know them.
Read the constitution, stupid. Z's rights did not trump TM's right.
That's why there are stalking laws for weirdos like Z.
The George Zimmerman trial is coming up quick. The trial is set to begin on 10 June, 2013.
FROM THE AP:
SANFORD, Fla. A new judge will hear how close lawyers are to being ready for trial in the murder case of a Florida neighborhood watch volunteer accused of shooting an unarmed teenager.
George Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder, is not expected to be in court Wednesday for the procedural hearing.
Judge Debra S. Nelson was appointed to the case in late August after an appeals' court found that the former judge made disparaging remarks about Zimmerman's character and advocated for additional charges against him during a bond hearing.
The 29-year-old is charged with shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in February. Zimmerman has claimed self-defense and is pleading not guilty.
From: Richard E. Hornsby, PA--
Penalties for Second Degree Murder
The crime of Second Degree Murder is classified as a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 10 offense severity ranking under Florida's Criminal Punishment Code.
If convicted of Second Degree Murder, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 16¾ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:
Up to Life in prison.
Up to Life on probation.
Up to $10,000 in fines.
10/20/Life
Under Florida's 10-20-Life law, a person who uses a Firearm to commit Second Degree Murder must be sentenced to a minimum-mandatory prison sentence of 25 years. [1]
Defenses to Second Degree Murder
In addition to the pretrial defenses and trial defenses that can be raised in any criminal case, specific defenses to the crime of Second Degree Murder are:
Excusable Homicide
The killing of a human being is excusable, and therefore lawful, under any one of the following three circumstances:
When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent, or
When the killing occurs by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or
When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.
Justifiable Homicide
The killing of a human being is justifiable homicide and lawful if done while resisting an attempt by someone to kill you or to commit a felony against you.
Self Defense
Also known as the justified use of deadly force, self defense is a defense to the crime of Second Degree Murder. Please view the Florida Self Defense section for more information.
Such thinking is ridiculous.
How the fuck could it be "stalking" to follow around a person you find suspicious in a residential neighborhood some evening?
Words have meaning. Get to know them.
Read the constitution, stupid. Z's rights did not trump TM's right.
That's why there are stalking laws for weirdos like Z.
No no you moron. Reading the Constitution is not enough.
You'd have to have the ability to understand what you're reading. Clearly, you lack such skills.
It is not "stalking" to merely follow someone around in a residential area one evening, when you happen to find that individual suspicious.
Sorry, snoopie, but words still have actual meaning even if you cannot fathom it.
The George Zimmerman trial is coming up quick. The trial is set to begin on 10 June, 2013.
FROM THE AP:
SANFORD, Fla. A new judge will hear how close lawyers are to being ready for trial in the murder case of a Florida neighborhood watch volunteer accused of shooting an unarmed teenager.
George Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder, is not expected to be in court Wednesday for the procedural hearing.
Judge Debra S. Nelson was appointed to the case in late August after an appeals' court found that the former judge made disparaging remarks about Zimmerman's character and advocated for additional charges against him during a bond hearing.
The 29-year-old is charged with shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in February. Zimmerman has claimed self-defense and is pleading not guilty.
From: Richard E. Hornsby, PA--
Penalties for Second Degree Murder
The crime of Second Degree Murder is classified as a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 10 offense severity ranking under Florida's Criminal Punishment Code.
If convicted of Second Degree Murder, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 16¾ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:
Up to Life in prison.
Up to Life on probation.
Up to $10,000 in fines.
10/20/Life
Under Florida's 10-20-Life law, a person who uses a Firearm to commit Second Degree Murder must be sentenced to a minimum-mandatory prison sentence of 25 years. [1]
Defenses to Second Degree Murder
In addition to the pretrial defenses and trial defenses that can be raised in any criminal case, specific defenses to the crime of Second Degree Murder are:
Excusable Homicide
The killing of a human being is excusable, and therefore lawful, under any one of the following three circumstances:
When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent, or
When the killing occurs by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or
When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.
Justifiable Homicide
The killing of a human being is justifiable homicide and lawful if done while resisting an attempt by someone to kill you or to commit a felony against you.
Self Defense
Also known as the justified use of deadly force, self defense is a defense to the crime of Second Degree Murder. Please view the Florida Self Defense section for more information.
Thank you for the synopsis on what is at stake in this trial.
Assuming that a jury can be found that is entirely impartial and willing to hear both prosecution and defense cases then this case will depend largely upon the veracity of the only "witness" who was at the crime scene at the time. Since that is the person on trial it is going to be interesting to see if he takes the stand in his own defense.
If there is a single juror who is pro-NRA there will be a hung jury and then it will be up to the state to decide if they want to try again. In Florida the odds of this happening are pretty good so this is the most likely outcome in my humble opinion.
However if we assume that the jury is impartial then Zimmerman's credibility will be a crucial factor. In his favor is the lie detector but that can be nullified if the jury is presented with evidence that he is a habitual liar. Given that he lied to the judge earlier during the bail hearings that could count against him.
Personally I am hoping for the best but expecting the worst. The media circus is already ramping up the volume and that isn't going to help matters because whatever the outcome one group or another is going to be crying foul.
I think what is fascinating about this case is that both sides believe in what they are doing. The defense truly believes GZ...this is different than a lot of cases where you have to believe that the attorney knows their client is guilty but doing their best to either get them off on lesser charges or acquitted for a technicality. Kind of refreshing to watch for a change.
Like the OJ dream team...everyone of those attorneys knew he did it.
I think what is fascinating about this case is that both sides believe in what they are doing. The defense truly believes GZ...this is different than a lot of cases where you have to believe that the attorney knows their client is guilty but doing their best to either get them off on lesser charges or acquitted for a technicality. Kind of refreshing to watch for a change.
Like the OJ dream team...everyone of those attorneys knew he did it.
Mmmm, not both sides, I believe one is in the political spotlight/career changer.
At the beginning, when the judge was ruling against their every motion and then moved them without reason to another space in the courthouse, M O'M walked into somewhere and talked to someone after one such incident, he almost broke down and tears and said "they're going to convict him and he is innocent of this". He does truly believe and he's very committed. West I think is too, but doing his West job. On the other shoe. So far all I've seen roll out of A$$hole's mouth every time he opens it is a$$, today was yet another example the judge actually corrected him on, and the Bernster acts like a gawfawing, "do you have that Twitster, whatever it's called, I don't have that but my wife and kids do HA HA HA" joke on every single juror on the individual questioning. Dude, we know by the 2nd time you said it someone told you it's called Twitter so the 32nd time you said it was just really worn the f out, annoying Used Car Salesman I'm your pal attempt at a joke.
And that is my take on them.
The George Zimmerman trial is coming up quick. The trial is set to begin on 10 June, 2013.
FROM THE AP:
SANFORD, Fla. A new judge will hear how close lawyers are to being ready for trial in the murder case of a Florida neighborhood watch volunteer accused of shooting an unarmed teenager.
George Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder, is not expected to be in court Wednesday for the procedural hearing.
Judge Debra S. Nelson was appointed to the case in late August after an appeals' court found that the former judge made disparaging remarks about Zimmerman's character and advocated for additional charges against him during a bond hearing.
The 29-year-old is charged with shooting 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in February. Zimmerman has claimed self-defense and is pleading not guilty.
From: Richard E. Hornsby, PA--
Penalties for Second Degree Murder
The crime of Second Degree Murder is classified as a First Degree Felony and is assigned a Level 10 offense severity ranking under Florida's Criminal Punishment Code.
If convicted of Second Degree Murder, a judge is required to impose a minimum prison sentence of 16¾ years in prison and can impose any additional combination of the following penalties:
Up to Life in prison.
Up to Life on probation.
Up to $10,000 in fines.
10/20/Life
Under Florida's 10-20-Life law, a person who uses a Firearm to commit Second Degree Murder must be sentenced to a minimum-mandatory prison sentence of 25 years. [1]
Defenses to Second Degree Murder
In addition to the pretrial defenses and trial defenses that can be raised in any criminal case, specific defenses to the crime of Second Degree Murder are:
Excusable Homicide
The killing of a human being is excusable, and therefore lawful, under any one of the following three circumstances:
When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune in doing any lawful act by lawful means with usual ordinary caution and without any unlawful intent, or
When the killing occurs by accident and misfortune in the heat of passion, upon any sudden and sufficient provocation, or
When the killing is committed by accident and misfortune resulting from a sudden combat, if a dangerous weapon is not used and the killing is not done in a cruel or unusual manner.
Justifiable Homicide
The killing of a human being is justifiable homicide and lawful if done while resisting an attempt by someone to kill you or to commit a felony against you.
Self Defense
Also known as the justified use of deadly force, self defense is a defense to the crime of Second Degree Murder. Please view the Florida Self Defense section for more information.
Thank you for the synopsis on what is at stake in this trial.
Assuming that a jury can be found that is entirely impartial and willing to hear both prosecution and defense cases then this case will depend largely upon the veracity of the only "witness" who was at the crime scene at the time. Since that is the person on trial it is going to be interesting to see if he takes the stand in his own defense.
If there is a single juror who is pro-NRA there will be a hung jury and then it will be up to the state to decide if they want to try again. In Florida the odds of this happening are pretty good so this is the most likely outcome in my humble opinion.
However if we assume that the jury is impartial then Zimmerman's credibility will be a crucial factor. In his favor is the lie detector but that can be nullified if the jury is presented with evidence that he is a habitual liar. Given that he lied to the judge earlier during the bail hearings that could count against him.
Personally I am hoping for the best but expecting the worst. The media circus is already ramping up the volume and that isn't going to help matters because whatever the outcome one group or another is going to be crying foul.
Not too many women are pro nra. I wonder if the nra has contributed to Z's defense fund. I wish they would ask him about it.
