The Official Zimmerman Trial Verdict Thread

[boedicca]

This girl is going to end up with her own reality tv show, isn't she?

Here Comes Rachel's BooBoo!

 

[RKMBrown]

To show she is not a credible witness. All in the effort to produce reasonable doubt.

Yeah and at this point it appears he's trying too hard to get her to change her story by making up stuff about what she said. He's clearly trying to take advantage of the witness's speech issue to change her testimony so he can then discredit her testimony. How many dozens of times and different ways is he gonna ask her the same question?

As many as it takes to show she is lying.

So this could take a few months? Why don't they just waterboard her?

 

[Oldstyle]

You're still talking about it even though the case is over? Move along, create some more scenarios in your head.

Maybe Fox will hire you.

The scenario that was "created", Sarah is the scenario that George Zimmerman hunted down Trayvon Martin with the intent of killing him that night. The truth is...it's Trayvon Martin that was the one who instigated the conflict when he walked several hundred yards AWAY from safety to confront someone he just used a racial slur to describe.

 

[Ernie S.]

OK that's 65 minutes. Let's dose Dee Dee and get back to work.

 

[MeBelle]

Perhaps.. but her testimony matches the defendant's testimony that they were wrestling around, no? The extra part about tray saying get off... is irrelevant... Zimm admits they were wrestling around. What difference, at this point, does it make if at one point in the fight Zimm was on top and Tray yelled get off... this assuming the get off part was 7sec after the start of the fight.

Correct, no.

What does "Correct, no." mean...

Message board short hand. I agree with the majority of your statement,(correct) the bolded part is not true.(no)

 

[Sunshine]

Yeah and at this point it appears he's trying too hard to get her to change her story by making up stuff about what she said. He's clearly trying to take advantage of the witness's speech issue to change her testimony so he can then discredit her testimony. How many dozens of times and different ways is he gonna ask her the same question?

As many as it takes to show she is lying.

So this could take a few months? Why don't they just waterboard her?

Of course all of this will be perfectly acceptable to you when the prosecution does the same thing to Zimmerman. Bigot.

 

[Sarah G]

You're still talking about it even though the case is over? Move along, create some more scenarios in your head.

Maybe Fox will hire you.

The scenario that was "created", Sarah is the scenario that George Zimmerman hunted down Trayvon Martin with the intent of killing him that night. The truth is...it's Trayvon Martin that was the one who instigated the conflict when he walked several hundred yards AWAY from safety to confront someone he just used a racial slur to describe.

Case closed! No more questions, defense doesn't need to present a case, it's allll over..

 

[Ernie S.]

As many as it takes to show she is lying.

So this could take a few months? Why don't they just waterboard her?

Of course all of this will be perfectly acceptable to you when the prosecution does the same thing to Zimmerman. Bigot.

I believe that Mr Zimmerman speaks English.

 

[Sunshine]

Even if that was true (which it is not) did that give Martin the right to punch Zimmerman and bash his head into the ground?
You seem willfully to ignore this simple fact.

In Florida?

It's called "Stand your ground".

Stand your ground doesn't allow you to leave a scene...run several hundred yards away where safety exists (the condo)...then retrace your steps to confront the person who was earlier following you. That ISN'T standing your ground! THAT is deliberately seeking out a confrontation.

Stand your ground is not being argued here. Self Defense is being argued.

 

[RKMBrown]

Why do the ads that keep coming up above and below this thread keep talking about losing a lot of fat?

Took a look at the page source they are using google's advertising service. Basically the idea is when you search for something or browse a web page such as an item to buy in amazon, they (google, amazon etc.) keep track of it. Google's advertising product figures that you'd like to see advertisements about loosing weight, might even click on em. This presumably based on some recent searches you did. Or someone else did on your web browser.

 

[Gem]

I think he did a fair, albeit long-winded, job. He reminded the jurors quite clearly that this woman, with all of her inconsistencies, lies, changes of stories, etc. is the prosecutions MAIN WITNESS. She is the person the prosecution has put forward to PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that George Zimmerman pursued and then attacked Treyvon Martin, fatally shooting him.

And what Ms. Jeantel did was show that she has lied about elements of this case, been confused about this case, changed her mind about elements of this case...and, at the end of the day, only HEARD bits and pieces of an event. AND...it sounds like in her recollection...Treyvon Martin got away from George Zimmerman and was able to walk into his home and safety...but for some reason chose not to...he ran until winded...but somehow when he turned Zimmerman was "right there"...but she can not say whether he ran away from Zimmerman and Zimmerman somehow managed to keep up with him...or whether he ran away...and then ran back to Zimmerman to confront him.

He might to be up for any law-and-order auditions...but I think West did a fine job of discrediting this witness...remember if the jury does their duty...they can't find Zimmerman guilty if a reasonable person could find it at all believable that it was self-defense. I'm genuinely interested in hearing from anyone who feels that the Prosecution has proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt...and how, given what we now know.

 

[boedicca]

Yeah and at this point it appears he's trying too hard to get her to change her story by making up stuff about what she said. He's clearly trying to take advantage of the witness's speech issue to change her testimony so he can then discredit her testimony. How many dozens of times and different ways is he gonna ask her the same question?

As many as it takes to show she is lying.

So this could take a few months? Why don't they just waterboard her?

Because Obama prefers Drone Strikes to Waterboarding.

 

[Snookie]

did you listen to it, or are you just talking out of your ass? I posted what i heard.

well, you are wrong what you posted.

did you listen to it?

Yeah did you understand it?

Hell no, you too white and got no street cred.

All you crackers got no street cred.

 

[Sunshine]

I think he did a fair, albeit long-winded, job. He reminded the jurors quite clearly that this woman, with all of her inconsistencies, lies, changes of stories, etc. is the prosecutions MAIN WITNESS. She is the person the prosecution has put forward to PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that George Zimmerman pursued and then attacked Treyvon Martin, fatally shooting him.

And what Ms. Jeantel did was show that she has lied about elements of this case, been confused about this case, changed her mind about elements of this case...and, at the end of the day, only HEARD bits and pieces of an event. AND...it sounds like in her recollection...Treyvon Martin got away from George Zimmerman and was able to walk into his home and safety...but for some reason chose not to...he ran until winded...but somehow when he turned Zimmerman was "right there"...but she can not say whether he ran away from Zimmerman and Zimmerman somehow managed to keep up with him...or whether he ran away...and then ran back to Zimmerman to confront him.

He might to be up for any law-and-order auditions...but I think West did a fine job of discrediting this witness...remember if the jury does their duty...they can't find Zimmerman guilty if a reasonable person could find it at all believable that it was self-defense. I'm genuinely interested in hearing from anyone who feels that the Prosecution has proven their case beyond a reasonable doubt...and how, given what we now know.

It is too early to say they have or have not, but I don't think the prosecution can prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[legaleagle_45]

Bald headed dude.

 

[legaleagle_45]

Can she curse in cursive?

 

[Oldstyle]

That pretty much describes the reality of this case, Sarah. This case should never been brought in the first place. The initial decision, that this was self defense and shouldn't go to trial was in fact the proper one. The only reason this case took place is because of political pressure that was brought to bear by a main stream media pushing a "story" about a racist vigilante who stalked and killed an unarmed "child". That "story" however has little basis in truth. George Zimmerman isn't a racist. The person using racist language prior to this confrontation is in fact Trayvon Martin NOT George Zimmerman.

 

[Nate]

Bald headed dude is asking the questions now

 

[Sunshine]

Why do the ads that keep coming up above and below this thread keep talking about losing a lot of fat?

Took a look at the page source they are using google's advertising service. Basically the idea is when you search for something or browse a web page such as an item to buy in amazon, they (google, amazon etc.) keep track of it. Google's advertising product figures that you'd like to see advertisements about loosing weight, might even click on em. This presumably based on some recent searches you did. Or someone else did on your web browser.

I have done no recent searched about weight loss. I have a terminal illness and am losing without any aids.

Dumbass, those ads are coming up because people on this thread are discussing the fatness of the witness!

 

[Snookie]

If Z is not convicted Florida will have a new state song.

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