The One Question No One So Far Can Answer

[Care4all]

What if they helped connect the thieves with the person who could get the goods to an outlet that could disseminate or distribute the stolen goods?

What if they helped the thieves decide when it was best to release the stolen goods in to the marketplace to achieve the best results for their candidate?

I don't think you have thought these speculative scenarios through completely....?

All those speculative scenarios are dividing the country, when will it be time for everyone to just shut up and let the investigation play out? Then no more speculation is required.

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When President Trump stops sticking his foot in his mouth and tweeting and trying to sidetrack the investigation and trying to obfuscate the investigation and firing the investigators and prosecutors, it'll be over soon enough...

HE IS WHY all of this is going on...

If he kept his mouth shut and stopped trying to interfere and redirect this investigation, NONE of us would be listening to this non stop crap daily from the news.

I think Trump thrives on controversy and being the center of attention, good or bad....the world only rotates around him.and by golly, he could be right at this point...

Why are you ignoring reality, Trump hasn't sidetracked anything. The investigations in the FBI and congress are moving along at the same pace they did before he fired Comey. The director does not conduct field investigations personally.

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Why are YOU ignoring reality, Trump, and his Republican accessories have done nothing but hindered the investigations...in the House with Nunes and that whole freak show that turned out to be absolutely nothing, and Nunes cancelling important hearings, and Trump tweeting Obama wire tapped him that turned out not to be true sent the press in to a frenzy, Getting the republican house and senate Intelligence committee heads to come out and defend him WHEN THEY are suppose to be conducting an independent investigation, the Senate and the House not FUNDING their investigations, NOT ONE extra staff was hired yet to help and Benghazi investigations put on something like 40 extra staffers.... Then Trump firing Yates, then Trump firing the NY AG who had trump under investigation and also handles the foreign money laundering cases for all of the US, then Trump firing Comey while he headed the investigation on the Russians, and then Trump snding his minions out to spread his lies, and then Trump claiming Comey asked to have dinner with him asking for his job, and then trump claiming he has taped the conversation....And Trump's Lester Holt interview contradicting everything he sent Pence and his talking heads to do....

IT'S ALL TRUMP

CAUSING ALL OF THIS

And any sane person would be asking, What in the heck is he trying to hide through all of these wild goose chases he sends the media on?

Nunes was given a series of intelligence report numbers that were reported to contain unmasked names of Trump associates. He tried to view them at a couple of intel agencies and they stonewalled him. So after a few weeks he arranged to view them at the WH secure facility, which is not located in the WH proper, but another office building on the WH grounds. You commiecrats politicized the crap out of it, as they have done pretty much everything since they got the asses kicked in Nov. The reality is he did nothing improper and will be exonerated by the ethics committee.

Trump made the accusation of the wire tapping after the contents of his and his staffs communication ended up on the news. What would you have concluded?

Feinstein and other Dems have said they haven't seen anything that would suggest collusion, it's not just Republicans saying that. And why would they need extra staff, this is primarily an investigation into Russian interference, it's not like there are thousand of documents to sift through, 99% of the data considered will come directly form our intel agencies.

BTW Trump doesn't have the authority to fire the NY AG, but Yates was fired for not doing her job and Comey was fired for taking actions on subjects he wasn't authorized to do. Spin it any you want, it won't change the facts, because even Trump is smart enough to know that firing people won't change or alter ongoing investigations.

Trump also did not claim he has tapes, he insinuated he might have, probably to give Comey some pause on what he might leak to the press.

BTW I agree he should get his communications in order before he does something, he'll learn, his learning curve is a bit steeper than polished politicians. America wanted change, they got it, it's time to stop bitching about the petty shit.

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NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

 

[OKTexas]

All those speculative scenarios are dividing the country, when will it be time for everyone to just shut up and let the investigation play out? Then no more speculation is required.

.

When President Trump stops sticking his foot in his mouth and tweeting and trying to sidetrack the investigation and trying to obfuscate the investigation and firing the investigators and prosecutors, it'll be over soon enough...

HE IS WHY all of this is going on...

If he kept his mouth shut and stopped trying to interfere and redirect this investigation, NONE of us would be listening to this non stop crap daily from the news.

I think Trump thrives on controversy and being the center of attention, good or bad....the world only rotates around him.and by golly, he could be right at this point...

Why are you ignoring reality, Trump hasn't sidetracked anything. The investigations in the FBI and congress are moving along at the same pace they did before he fired Comey. The director does not conduct field investigations personally.

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Why are YOU ignoring reality, Trump, and his Republican accessories have done nothing but hindered the investigations...in the House with Nunes and that whole freak show that turned out to be absolutely nothing, and Nunes cancelling important hearings, and Trump tweeting Obama wire tapped him that turned out not to be true sent the press in to a frenzy, Getting the republican house and senate Intelligence committee heads to come out and defend him WHEN THEY are suppose to be conducting an independent investigation, the Senate and the House not FUNDING their investigations, NOT ONE extra staff was hired yet to help and Benghazi investigations put on something like 40 extra staffers.... Then Trump firing Yates, then Trump firing the NY AG who had trump under investigation and also handles the foreign money laundering cases for all of the US, then Trump firing Comey while he headed the investigation on the Russians, and then Trump snding his minions out to spread his lies, and then Trump claiming Comey asked to have dinner with him asking for his job, and then trump claiming he has taped the conversation....And Trump's Lester Holt interview contradicting everything he sent Pence and his talking heads to do....

IT'S ALL TRUMP

CAUSING ALL OF THIS

And any sane person would be asking, What in the heck is he trying to hide through all of these wild goose chases he sends the media on?

Nunes was given a series of intelligence report numbers that were reported to contain unmasked names of Trump associates. He tried to view them at a couple of intel agencies and they stonewalled him. So after a few weeks he arranged to view them at the WH secure facility, which is not located in the WH proper, but another office building on the WH grounds. You commiecrats politicized the crap out of it, as they have done pretty much everything since they got the asses kicked in Nov. The reality is he did nothing improper and will be exonerated by the ethics committee.

Trump made the accusation of the wire tapping after the contents of his and his staffs communication ended up on the news. What would you have concluded?

Feinstein and other Dems have said they haven't seen anything that would suggest collusion, it's not just Republicans saying that. And why would they need extra staff, this is primarily an investigation into Russian interference, it's not like there are thousand of documents to sift through, 99% of the data considered will come directly form our intel agencies.

BTW Trump doesn't have the authority to fire the NY AG, but Yates was fired for not doing her job and Comey was fired for taking actions on subjects he wasn't authorized to do. Spin it any you want, it won't change the facts, because even Trump is smart enough to know that firing people won't change or alter ongoing investigations.

Trump also did not claim he has tapes, he insinuated he might have, probably to give Comey some pause on what he might leak to the press.

BTW I agree he should get his communications in order before he does something, he'll learn, his learning curve is a bit steeper than polished politicians. America wanted change, they got it, it's time to stop bitching about the petty shit.

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NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

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[Care4all]

When President Trump stops sticking his foot in his mouth and tweeting and trying to sidetrack the investigation and trying to obfuscate the investigation and firing the investigators and prosecutors, it'll be over soon enough...

HE IS WHY all of this is going on...

If he kept his mouth shut and stopped trying to interfere and redirect this investigation, NONE of us would be listening to this non stop crap daily from the news.

I think Trump thrives on controversy and being the center of attention, good or bad....the world only rotates around him.and by golly, he could be right at this point...

Why are you ignoring reality, Trump hasn't sidetracked anything. The investigations in the FBI and congress are moving along at the same pace they did before he fired Comey. The director does not conduct field investigations personally.

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Why are YOU ignoring reality, Trump, and his Republican accessories have done nothing but hindered the investigations...in the House with Nunes and that whole freak show that turned out to be absolutely nothing, and Nunes cancelling important hearings, and Trump tweeting Obama wire tapped him that turned out not to be true sent the press in to a frenzy, Getting the republican house and senate Intelligence committee heads to come out and defend him WHEN THEY are suppose to be conducting an independent investigation, the Senate and the House not FUNDING their investigations, NOT ONE extra staff was hired yet to help and Benghazi investigations put on something like 40 extra staffers.... Then Trump firing Yates, then Trump firing the NY AG who had trump under investigation and also handles the foreign money laundering cases for all of the US, then Trump firing Comey while he headed the investigation on the Russians, and then Trump snding his minions out to spread his lies, and then Trump claiming Comey asked to have dinner with him asking for his job, and then trump claiming he has taped the conversation....And Trump's Lester Holt interview contradicting everything he sent Pence and his talking heads to do....

IT'S ALL TRUMP

CAUSING ALL OF THIS

And any sane person would be asking, What in the heck is he trying to hide through all of these wild goose chases he sends the media on?

Nunes was given a series of intelligence report numbers that were reported to contain unmasked names of Trump associates. He tried to view them at a couple of intel agencies and they stonewalled him. So after a few weeks he arranged to view them at the WH secure facility, which is not located in the WH proper, but another office building on the WH grounds. You commiecrats politicized the crap out of it, as they have done pretty much everything since they got the asses kicked in Nov. The reality is he did nothing improper and will be exonerated by the ethics committee.

Trump made the accusation of the wire tapping after the contents of his and his staffs communication ended up on the news. What would you have concluded?

Feinstein and other Dems have said they haven't seen anything that would suggest collusion, it's not just Republicans saying that. And why would they need extra staff, this is primarily an investigation into Russian interference, it's not like there are thousand of documents to sift through, 99% of the data considered will come directly form our intel agencies.

BTW Trump doesn't have the authority to fire the NY AG, but Yates was fired for not doing her job and Comey was fired for taking actions on subjects he wasn't authorized to do. Spin it any you want, it won't change the facts, because even Trump is smart enough to know that firing people won't change or alter ongoing investigations.

Trump also did not claim he has tapes, he insinuated he might have, probably to give Comey some pause on what he might leak to the press.

BTW I agree he should get his communications in order before he does something, he'll learn, his learning curve is a bit steeper than polished politicians. America wanted change, they got it, it's time to stop bitching about the petty shit.

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NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

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I am a female! We don't do Reader's Digest versions!

WHY would Nunes NOT advise his co chair of what's going on and yet run to the press with his cockamamie convoluted innuendos BEFORE even advising his committee on it? Looks to me like he either let himself be used and abused by the Admin or he was part of the ruse from the get go?

The republicans investigating won't say a flat out NO either....it always has a quantifier too...the investigation is simply not over and is on going...they just are not done yet....I don't know why and you don't know why, but THEY DO, just stop interfering and let them get their jobs done...these are not politicos investigating, these are dedicated career counter intelligence investigators. It very well could be they can't come out and clear the Trump team right now simply because they don't want to show that hand to the Russians who interfered yet....

oh and Rice asked for the unmasking for herself....we DO NOT KNOW who else asked for the unmasking in other areas of security within the gvt.

 

[OKTexas]

Why are you ignoring reality, Trump hasn't sidetracked anything. The investigations in the FBI and congress are moving along at the same pace they did before he fired Comey. The director does not conduct field investigations personally.

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Why are YOU ignoring reality, Trump, and his Republican accessories have done nothing but hindered the investigations...in the House with Nunes and that whole freak show that turned out to be absolutely nothing, and Nunes cancelling important hearings, and Trump tweeting Obama wire tapped him that turned out not to be true sent the press in to a frenzy, Getting the republican house and senate Intelligence committee heads to come out and defend him WHEN THEY are suppose to be conducting an independent investigation, the Senate and the House not FUNDING their investigations, NOT ONE extra staff was hired yet to help and Benghazi investigations put on something like 40 extra staffers.... Then Trump firing Yates, then Trump firing the NY AG who had trump under investigation and also handles the foreign money laundering cases for all of the US, then Trump firing Comey while he headed the investigation on the Russians, and then Trump snding his minions out to spread his lies, and then Trump claiming Comey asked to have dinner with him asking for his job, and then trump claiming he has taped the conversation....And Trump's Lester Holt interview contradicting everything he sent Pence and his talking heads to do....

IT'S ALL TRUMP

CAUSING ALL OF THIS

And any sane person would be asking, What in the heck is he trying to hide through all of these wild goose chases he sends the media on?

Nunes was given a series of intelligence report numbers that were reported to contain unmasked names of Trump associates. He tried to view them at a couple of intel agencies and they stonewalled him. So after a few weeks he arranged to view them at the WH secure facility, which is not located in the WH proper, but another office building on the WH grounds. You commiecrats politicized the crap out of it, as they have done pretty much everything since they got the asses kicked in Nov. The reality is he did nothing improper and will be exonerated by the ethics committee.

Trump made the accusation of the wire tapping after the contents of his and his staffs communication ended up on the news. What would you have concluded?

Feinstein and other Dems have said they haven't seen anything that would suggest collusion, it's not just Republicans saying that. And why would they need extra staff, this is primarily an investigation into Russian interference, it's not like there are thousand of documents to sift through, 99% of the data considered will come directly form our intel agencies.

BTW Trump doesn't have the authority to fire the NY AG, but Yates was fired for not doing her job and Comey was fired for taking actions on subjects he wasn't authorized to do. Spin it any you want, it won't change the facts, because even Trump is smart enough to know that firing people won't change or alter ongoing investigations.

Trump also did not claim he has tapes, he insinuated he might have, probably to give Comey some pause on what he might leak to the press.

BTW I agree he should get his communications in order before he does something, he'll learn, his learning curve is a bit steeper than polished politicians. America wanted change, they got it, it's time to stop bitching about the petty shit.

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NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

.

I am a female! We don't do Reader's Digest versions!

WHY would Nunes NOT advise his co chair of what's going on and yet run to the press with his cockamamie convoluted innuendos BEFORE even advising his committee on it? Looks to me like he either let himself be used and abused by the Admin or he was part of the ruse from the get go?

The republicans investigating won't say a flat out NO either....it always has a quantifier too...the investigation is simply not over and is on going...they just are not done yet....I don't know why and you don't know why, but THEY DO, just stop interfering and let them get their jobs done...these are not politicos investigating, these are dedicated career counter intelligence investigators. It very well could be they can't come out and clear the Trump team right now simply because they don't want to show that hand to the Russians who interfered yet....

oh and Rice asked for the unmasking for herself....we DO NOT KNOW who else asked for the unmasking in other areas of security within the gvt.

Well Shiff is not the co-chair, he is the ranking member of the minority party. If the intel folks hadn't stonewalled him, he wouldn't have needed to go the WH complex to view the reports. There was no ruse and if you noticed after viewing the reports the Dems went very silent on the maobama regime not having the campaign under surveillance. And I've already said he could have handled it better.

Grasslley and Feinstein both said flat out that Trump was not a target according to Comey. Like I said, they're going to keep the propaganda value as high as they can for as long as they can, it all politics.

Yeah and we don't know who she shared the information with, remember the reports of the regime spreading all kinds of raw data around the intel agencies?

I just hope they find the leaker's, they need to be locked up.

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[oreo]

Hence the conspiracy violation 18 USC 371. Where all conspirators are guilty of the crimes performed by any one of them.

each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Which Trump campaign member "conspired" with any hackers? Do you have any evidence of any of your sinister accusations?

Well it could be anyone of them--but it all started in Cleveland during the RNC Convention--and these are names we've heard before.

Kushner's involvement in a meeting was first reported by The New Yorker, and Flynn's by The New York Times.

The administration official disputed the idea that accepting a meeting with the Russian ambassador could be cause for concern in light of the discussion about Russian meddling in the US election, characterizing the meeting as merely an attempt to meet key international players during the transition to power.

Then this:

"Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today.

Gordon told CNN that along with national security advisers Carter Page and Walid Phares, Gordon stressed to the Russian envoy that he would like to improve relations with Russia.

Then at this same time--Republican Convention, Cleveland in July, 2016 and long before they were even close to winning an election they decided to write foreign policy with the Russian Ambassador.

"Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine."
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

This information came out only (AFTER Flynn was busted and only AFTER Session's lied under to Oath to congress and only AFTER the Trump administration denied 5 times that they had contact with any Russians during the campaign season.)
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

This sent off a tornado siren to every intelligence agency in this country, including abroad. Which is when Comey testified that the FBI started it's investigation into the Trump campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

Then this comes out: Shep Smith states that they have phone records of Trump surrogates being on the phone not only with the Russian ambassador, but Russian intelligence agents, including the "very day" that the DNC databases were being hacked into.



CNN confirms it

Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com

John McCain wants to know why the "we will not arm the Ukranians against pro-Russian separtists" was put into the Republican Platform.



Adam Schiff cochair of the House intelligence committee states there is MORE than circumstantial evidence.



Right now there are Grand Jury Subpoenas against General Michael Flynn--who has already requested immunity from prosecution, with his lawyers stating "he has a story to tell."
Michael Flynn targeted by grand jury subpoenas, sources confirm
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/us/politics/michael-flynn-congress-immunity-russia.html

Right now the special task force within the Treasury department is looking for money laundering and shell corporations- Paul Manafort's name is mentioned in this also--who was in charge of the Trump campaign-and they're also tracking back to see who PAID the Russian hackers.
Paul Manafort’s finances, alliance with Trump draw Treasury, Justice, FBI eyes

One of Comey's comments about 1-1/2 months ago in front of a Senate hearing--he made this comment: "It's as if they didn't even care if they got caught." That can only mean one thing--they've been caught.

This by no means is going away anytime soon.

So you believe a GOP Platform debate is treason? Is that what you're left with here? Do YOU favor arming the Ukranians? Is it DEBATABLE? Should be. Without hysteria about Russian collusion FOR WHICH (on the platform issue) you have NONE..

Just like the rest of this paranoid delusion that's wasting everybody's time...

You should be investigating the DNC ties to Russian influence because CLEARLY the Ukranian policy they ENACTED was not largely different from this GOP platform plank.

Arming Ukraine: Where the 2016 Hopefuls Stand

President Barack Obama has so far resisted appeals from the beleaguered Ukrainian military to provide lethal aid such as small arms, ammunition, and anti-tank weaponry—though he has the authority to do so under a law he signed last year. President Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine, U.S. lawmakers from both parties, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and former diplomats and defense officials have all urged him to consider reversing course.

The former secretary of state and architect of the Russian "reset" policy, who has largely shunned public appearances in the last few months aside from the occasional paid speech, did comment on the Ukraine crisis last month. Clinton said she supported "putting more financial support into the Ukrainian government" during a paid speaking engagement in Winnipeg, Canada, as well as "new equipment, new training for the Ukrainians." She did not specify whether that "equipment" should include lethal arms.

A Clinton spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

Obviously those 2 DEMS were talking with Russians CONSTANTLY. And the Uranium give away approved by Mrs WhoreHopper is a MUCH clearer conflict of interest than anything you're mentioning. PLUS her campaign manager was LOBBYING for SberBank in Russia that literally OWNS 1/3 of the Russian economy..

If you're paranoid about Russians -- Let's investigate it all. That way --- the kind of question asked in this OP is APPLIED EQUALLY to both primitive warring tribes....

What an ELECTED (already won the election and is sworn into office) President does with Foreign policy is routine.

But no campaign in the middle of a campaign season has ever sat across the table from a Foreign adversary to write foreign policy. (Russians can't vote, nor can they make campaign donations.) Meaning there is absolutely no reason to meet or talk with them at that time.

It is the REASON that sent up the red flags to every intelligence agency in this country & Russian phone lines were wire tapped. Where anyone they were calling and anyone who was calling them was being wiretaped. Clearly they have a lot of contact with Trump surrogates & Russians during the campaign season.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

Furthermore the Trump administration DENIED 5 TIMES that they had any contact with Russians during the campaign season.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

According to Shep Smith's video--they were on the phone not only the Russian Ambassador but Russian intelligence agents, including the very day that DNC databases were getting hacked into.

Wrong. Hillary losing and the resulting mass hysteria of the snowflakes is the only reason that occurred.

The Trump administration denied it? You mean a couple of people denied it. The contacts were totally benign. There's no "there" there.

You're a fucking retard.

Like they say trying to reason with a Trump supporter is like trying to teach Algebra to a Chimpanzee.

This is not really a partisan political issue--it's an American issue--and we will not tolerate someone who colluded with Russians to interfere into ANY of our elections, much less occupy the Oval office. Collusion with a Foreign adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON.

I'm talking about the election. You honestly believed at the time that the wikileaks revelations would do NO HARM WHATSOEVER to Hillary's chances of winning?

Most Americans had made up their minds, snowflakes were going to vote Democrat no matter what. There wasn't much revealed that people did not already know or did not surprise them about democrats.

Hillary was the worst candidate in US history...that's the real problem with Hillary, not what was released about her.

To begin with, her name should never have been allowed on the ballot on election day anyway for being under MULTIPLE FBI investigations for crimes to conclude ESPIONAGE just days before the election.

As has been since revealed, Trump was also under investigation.

I really have no idea what news station you people are watching (if any) but I imagine it's FOX News and if they're not reporting on the ongoing Senate hearings right now--it's probably time to turn the channel.

"FBI Director James Comey told lawmakers Monday that his agency has been investigating possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian officials since last July.

The newly revealed timeline — which Comey detailed in a much-anticipated House Intelligence Committee hearing — means the FBI probe was occurring during the peak of an alleged Russian campaign to destabilize the presidential race and eventually help elect President Donald Trump."
Comey: FBI launched Trump-Russia probe in July

This news is over 3 weeks old now.

It all started at the RNC Convention in Cleveland when the Russian Ambassador met with Trump Surrogates and they started writing foreign policy together.

Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today.

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful.
But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Care4all]

Why are YOU ignoring reality, Trump, and his Republican accessories have done nothing but hindered the investigations...in the House with Nunes and that whole freak show that turned out to be absolutely nothing, and Nunes cancelling important hearings, and Trump tweeting Obama wire tapped him that turned out not to be true sent the press in to a frenzy, Getting the republican house and senate Intelligence committee heads to come out and defend him WHEN THEY are suppose to be conducting an independent investigation, the Senate and the House not FUNDING their investigations, NOT ONE extra staff was hired yet to help and Benghazi investigations put on something like 40 extra staffers.... Then Trump firing Yates, then Trump firing the NY AG who had trump under investigation and also handles the foreign money laundering cases for all of the US, then Trump firing Comey while he headed the investigation on the Russians, and then Trump snding his minions out to spread his lies, and then Trump claiming Comey asked to have dinner with him asking for his job, and then trump claiming he has taped the conversation....And Trump's Lester Holt interview contradicting everything he sent Pence and his talking heads to do....

IT'S ALL TRUMP

CAUSING ALL OF THIS

And any sane person would be asking, What in the heck is he trying to hide through all of these wild goose chases he sends the media on?

Nunes was given a series of intelligence report numbers that were reported to contain unmasked names of Trump associates. He tried to view them at a couple of intel agencies and they stonewalled him. So after a few weeks he arranged to view them at the WH secure facility, which is not located in the WH proper, but another office building on the WH grounds. You commiecrats politicized the crap out of it, as they have done pretty much everything since they got the asses kicked in Nov. The reality is he did nothing improper and will be exonerated by the ethics committee.

Trump made the accusation of the wire tapping after the contents of his and his staffs communication ended up on the news. What would you have concluded?

Feinstein and other Dems have said they haven't seen anything that would suggest collusion, it's not just Republicans saying that. And why would they need extra staff, this is primarily an investigation into Russian interference, it's not like there are thousand of documents to sift through, 99% of the data considered will come directly form our intel agencies.

BTW Trump doesn't have the authority to fire the NY AG, but Yates was fired for not doing her job and Comey was fired for taking actions on subjects he wasn't authorized to do. Spin it any you want, it won't change the facts, because even Trump is smart enough to know that firing people won't change or alter ongoing investigations.

Trump also did not claim he has tapes, he insinuated he might have, probably to give Comey some pause on what he might leak to the press.

BTW I agree he should get his communications in order before he does something, he'll learn, his learning curve is a bit steeper than polished politicians. America wanted change, they got it, it's time to stop bitching about the petty shit.

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NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

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I am a female! We don't do Reader's Digest versions!

WHY would Nunes NOT advise his co chair of what's going on and yet run to the press with his cockamamie convoluted innuendos BEFORE even advising his committee on it? Looks to me like he either let himself be used and abused by the Admin or he was part of the ruse from the get go?

The republicans investigating won't say a flat out NO either....it always has a quantifier too...the investigation is simply not over and is on going...they just are not done yet....I don't know why and you don't know why, but THEY DO, just stop interfering and let them get their jobs done...these are not politicos investigating, these are dedicated career counter intelligence investigators. It very well could be they can't come out and clear the Trump team right now simply because they don't want to show that hand to the Russians who interfered yet....

oh and Rice asked for the unmasking for herself....we DO NOT KNOW who else asked for the unmasking in other areas of security within the gvt.

Well Shiff is not the co-chair, he is the ranking member of the minority party. If the intel folks hadn't stonewalled him, he wouldn't have needed to go the WH complex to view the reports. There was no ruse and if you noticed after viewing the reports the Dems went very silent on the maobama regime not having the campaign under surveillance. And I've already said he could have handled it better.

Grasslley and Feinstein both said flat out that Trump was not a target according to Comey. Like I said, they're going to keep the propaganda value as high as they can for as long as they can, it all politics.

Yeah and we don't know who she shared the information with, remember the reports of the regime spreading all kinds of raw data around the intel agencies?

I just hope they find the leaker's, they need to be locked up.

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The rumor was not true about spreading the intel around according to Susan Rice, they did not spread the intel around, she GATHERED all the separate info together on the Russian interference investigation aspects in to 1 report, upon the president's request for such...

What was actually leaked? The info on Flynn Lying to the vice President?

 

[bripat9643]

If they were complicit in spreading false Informstion to influence an election then they are probably flirting with treason.

Spreading false information about Hillary is treason?

What'd they say, "She's the most qualified candidate for President, ever"?

Talk about false info.

Can you really not distinguish between the statement you put down and what I was talking about?

I think the "Russians influenced the election with false news" is a hilarious claim.
Almost as funny as "flirting with treason".

So when people like Rex Tillerson, and every Republican member of congress all speak out against the Russians actions and deem them a serious threat, and when our intel agencies open active investigations into these "hilarious" claims, Are all of these people just wasting time and energy over nothing? if so, what possible motive would they have in doing this?

So when people like Rex Tillerson, and every Republican member of congress all speak out against the Russians actions

Which actions? Posting fake stories about Hillary? Or posting real stories about Hillary?

Are all of these people just wasting time and energy over nothing?

Pretty much.

if so, what possible motive would they have in doing this?

Laughing at snowflake hysterics is the best way to trigger them.
If they instead nod, look serious and promise to investigate, they'll prevent millions of liberal breakdowns.

what are you talking about? Only dipshits like you get off on trying to provoke the snowflakes. The serious guys who are in charge, like Tillerson, do nod and look serious because it is serious. The fact that you can't even describe what the real issue is not recognize the threat just shows that you are only tuned into the partisan web of lies.

It's a joke and a hoax.

 

[bripat9643]

Nunes was given a series of intelligence report numbers that were reported to contain unmasked names of Trump associates. He tried to view them at a couple of intel agencies and they stonewalled him. So after a few weeks he arranged to view them at the WH secure facility, which is not located in the WH proper, but another office building on the WH grounds. You commiecrats politicized the crap out of it, as they have done pretty much everything since they got the asses kicked in Nov. The reality is he did nothing improper and will be exonerated by the ethics committee.

Trump made the accusation of the wire tapping after the contents of his and his staffs communication ended up on the news. What would you have concluded?

Feinstein and other Dems have said they haven't seen anything that would suggest collusion, it's not just Republicans saying that. And why would they need extra staff, this is primarily an investigation into Russian interference, it's not like there are thousand of documents to sift through, 99% of the data considered will come directly form our intel agencies.

BTW Trump doesn't have the authority to fire the NY AG, but Yates was fired for not doing her job and Comey was fired for taking actions on subjects he wasn't authorized to do. Spin it any you want, it won't change the facts, because even Trump is smart enough to know that firing people won't change or alter ongoing investigations.

Trump also did not claim he has tapes, he insinuated he might have, probably to give Comey some pause on what he might leak to the press.

BTW I agree he should get his communications in order before he does something, he'll learn, his learning curve is a bit steeper than polished politicians. America wanted change, they got it, it's time to stop bitching about the petty shit.

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NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

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I am a female! We don't do Reader's Digest versions!

WHY would Nunes NOT advise his co chair of what's going on and yet run to the press with his cockamamie convoluted innuendos BEFORE even advising his committee on it? Looks to me like he either let himself be used and abused by the Admin or he was part of the ruse from the get go?

The republicans investigating won't say a flat out NO either....it always has a quantifier too...the investigation is simply not over and is on going...they just are not done yet....I don't know why and you don't know why, but THEY DO, just stop interfering and let them get their jobs done...these are not politicos investigating, these are dedicated career counter intelligence investigators. It very well could be they can't come out and clear the Trump team right now simply because they don't want to show that hand to the Russians who interfered yet....

oh and Rice asked for the unmasking for herself....we DO NOT KNOW who else asked for the unmasking in other areas of security within the gvt.

Well Shiff is not the co-chair, he is the ranking member of the minority party. If the intel folks hadn't stonewalled him, he wouldn't have needed to go the WH complex to view the reports. There was no ruse and if you noticed after viewing the reports the Dems went very silent on the maobama regime not having the campaign under surveillance. And I've already said he could have handled it better.

Grasslley and Feinstein both said flat out that Trump was not a target according to Comey. Like I said, they're going to keep the propaganda value as high as they can for as long as they can, it all politics.

Yeah and we don't know who she shared the information with, remember the reports of the regime spreading all kinds of raw data around the intel agencies?

I just hope they find the leaker's, they need to be locked up.

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The rumor was not true about spreading the intel around according to Susan Rice, they did not spread the intel around, she GATHERED all the separate info together on the Russian interference investigation aspects in to 1 report, upon the president's request for such...

What was actually leaked? The info on Flynn Lying to the vice President?

Then how did the press find out about it?

 

[Care4all]

NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

.

I am a female! We don't do Reader's Digest versions!

WHY would Nunes NOT advise his co chair of what's going on and yet run to the press with his cockamamie convoluted innuendos BEFORE even advising his committee on it? Looks to me like he either let himself be used and abused by the Admin or he was part of the ruse from the get go?

The republicans investigating won't say a flat out NO either....it always has a quantifier too...the investigation is simply not over and is on going...they just are not done yet....I don't know why and you don't know why, but THEY DO, just stop interfering and let them get their jobs done...these are not politicos investigating, these are dedicated career counter intelligence investigators. It very well could be they can't come out and clear the Trump team right now simply because they don't want to show that hand to the Russians who interfered yet....

oh and Rice asked for the unmasking for herself....we DO NOT KNOW who else asked for the unmasking in other areas of security within the gvt.

Well Shiff is not the co-chair, he is the ranking member of the minority party. If the intel folks hadn't stonewalled him, he wouldn't have needed to go the WH complex to view the reports. There was no ruse and if you noticed after viewing the reports the Dems went very silent on the maobama regime not having the campaign under surveillance. And I've already said he could have handled it better.

Grasslley and Feinstein both said flat out that Trump was not a target according to Comey. Like I said, they're going to keep the propaganda value as high as they can for as long as they can, it all politics.

Yeah and we don't know who she shared the information with, remember the reports of the regime spreading all kinds of raw data around the intel agencies?

I just hope they find the leaker's, they need to be locked up.

.

The rumor was not true about spreading the intel around according to Susan Rice, they did not spread the intel around, she GATHERED all the separate info together on the Russian interference investigation aspects in to 1 report, upon the president's request for such...

What was actually leaked? The info on Flynn Lying to the vice President?

Then how did the press find out about it?

How did the press find out about what?

 

[OKTexas]

Nunes was given a series of intelligence report numbers that were reported to contain unmasked names of Trump associates. He tried to view them at a couple of intel agencies and they stonewalled him. So after a few weeks he arranged to view them at the WH secure facility, which is not located in the WH proper, but another office building on the WH grounds. You commiecrats politicized the crap out of it, as they have done pretty much everything since they got the asses kicked in Nov. The reality is he did nothing improper and will be exonerated by the ethics committee.

Trump made the accusation of the wire tapping after the contents of his and his staffs communication ended up on the news. What would you have concluded?

Feinstein and other Dems have said they haven't seen anything that would suggest collusion, it's not just Republicans saying that. And why would they need extra staff, this is primarily an investigation into Russian interference, it's not like there are thousand of documents to sift through, 99% of the data considered will come directly form our intel agencies.

BTW Trump doesn't have the authority to fire the NY AG, but Yates was fired for not doing her job and Comey was fired for taking actions on subjects he wasn't authorized to do. Spin it any you want, it won't change the facts, because even Trump is smart enough to know that firing people won't change or alter ongoing investigations.

Trump also did not claim he has tapes, he insinuated he might have, probably to give Comey some pause on what he might leak to the press.

BTW I agree he should get his communications in order before he does something, he'll learn, his learning curve is a bit steeper than polished politicians. America wanted change, they got it, it's time to stop bitching about the petty shit.

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NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

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I am a female! We don't do Reader's Digest versions!

WHY would Nunes NOT advise his co chair of what's going on and yet run to the press with his cockamamie convoluted innuendos BEFORE even advising his committee on it? Looks to me like he either let himself be used and abused by the Admin or he was part of the ruse from the get go?

The republicans investigating won't say a flat out NO either....it always has a quantifier too...the investigation is simply not over and is on going...they just are not done yet....I don't know why and you don't know why, but THEY DO, just stop interfering and let them get their jobs done...these are not politicos investigating, these are dedicated career counter intelligence investigators. It very well could be they can't come out and clear the Trump team right now simply because they don't want to show that hand to the Russians who interfered yet....

oh and Rice asked for the unmasking for herself....we DO NOT KNOW who else asked for the unmasking in other areas of security within the gvt.

Well Shiff is not the co-chair, he is the ranking member of the minority party. If the intel folks hadn't stonewalled him, he wouldn't have needed to go the WH complex to view the reports. There was no ruse and if you noticed after viewing the reports the Dems went very silent on the maobama regime not having the campaign under surveillance. And I've already said he could have handled it better.

Grasslley and Feinstein both said flat out that Trump was not a target according to Comey. Like I said, they're going to keep the propaganda value as high as they can for as long as they can, it all politics.

Yeah and we don't know who she shared the information with, remember the reports of the regime spreading all kinds of raw data around the intel agencies?

I just hope they find the leaker's, they need to be locked up.

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The rumor was not true about spreading the intel around according to Susan Rice, they did not spread the intel around, she GATHERED all the separate info together on the Russian interference investigation aspects in to 1 report, upon the president's request for such...

What was actually leaked? The info on Flynn Lying to the vice President?

It was the info in Flynn's call to the Russian ambassador that was leaked, which is a felony.

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[Slade3200]

Can you really not distinguish between the statement you put down and what I was talking about?

I think the "Russians influenced the election with false news" is a hilarious claim.
Almost as funny as "flirting with treason".

So when people like Rex Tillerson, and every Republican member of congress all speak out against the Russians actions and deem them a serious threat, and when our intel agencies open active investigations into these "hilarious" claims, Are all of these people just wasting time and energy over nothing? if so, what possible motive would they have in doing this?

So when people like Rex Tillerson, and every Republican member of congress all speak out against the Russians actions

Which actions? Posting fake stories about Hillary? Or posting real stories about Hillary?

Are all of these people just wasting time and energy over nothing?

Pretty much.

if so, what possible motive would they have in doing this?

Laughing at snowflake hysterics is the best way to trigger them.
If they instead nod, look serious and promise to investigate, they'll prevent millions of liberal breakdowns.

what are you talking about? Only dipshits like you get off on trying to provoke the snowflakes. The serious guys who are in charge, like Tillerson, do nod and look serious because it is serious. The fact that you can't even describe what the real issue is not recognize the threat just shows that you are only tuned into the partisan web of lies.

It's a joke and a hoax.

So Tillerson is lying along with everybody else in Washington. Your saying it is the biggest coordinated conspiracy in our nations history? That's really what you think is going on?

 

[Care4all]

NUNES publicizd it, and went in to some cryptic gobbledygook and had show boating press conferences twice which threw them in to a frenzy, Did NOT inform the minority co-chair or the rest of his committee on this information he was trying to get, cancelled their scheduled hearings for two weeks....CHAOS, basically, he got the press to change the subject and chase a bunch of nothingness, FOR THE PRESIDENT.

Unmasking is not a crime, nor is it unusual for the N S ADVISOR....and it was unmasked to HER only and she had to go to the intelligence agency who provided her the security briefing to both get legal permission for the unmasking from 3 legal experts at the pertinent intelligence agency and had to go to the agency to review the unmasking person in their safe rooms....it was not sent out in a memo for everyone else in the world to see, it was for her eyes only.

As far as Feinstein and the other Dems in the know on these committees, NOT ONE, has said a flat out NO, ....they all are using terms like, "Not at this time", or "not as of yet" or "not at the time of the Intelligence analysis briefing in January" or "Not that I am aware" or "Not that I have seen" etc etc etc....

THAT tells me, they are not letting on... one way or the other, and this is what I have seen from gvt people who have classified information that they are not permitted to talk about....

I would have NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS concluded what the President tweeted to the world about President Obama... it was irrational, illogical and ill informed partisan rhetoric and ignorant bull crap....but it sure got us off the more important topic going on at the time, now didn't it? Same with the Nunes fiasco, got us off the important topic in the news....Jeff Sessions lying under oath, twice.

Trump ORDERED Sessions to fire them....


Trump Abruptly Orders 46 Obama-Era Prosecutors to Resign
By CHARLIE SAVAGE and MAGGIE HABERMANMARCH 10, 2017

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration moved on Friday to sweep away most of the remaining vestiges of Obama administration prosecutors at the Justice Department, ordering 46 holdover United States attorneys to tender their resignations immediately — including Preet Bharara, the United States attorney in Manhattan.

The firings were a surprise — especially for Mr. Bharara, who has a reputation for prosecuting public corruption cases and for investigating insider trading. In November, Mr. Bharara met with then President-elect Donald J. Trump at Trump Tower in Manhattan and told reporters afterward that both Mr. Trump and Jeff Sessions, who is now the attorney general, had asked him about staying on, which the prosecutor said he expected to do.

But on Friday, Mr. Bharara was among federal prosecutors who received a call from Dana Boente, the acting deputy attorney general, instructing him to resign, according to a person familiar with the matter. As of Friday evening, though some of the prosecutors had publicly announced their resignations, Mr. Bharara had not. A spokesman for Mr. Bharara declined to comment.

Trump threatened FBI Director Comey, like he was in the New York MOB....that is unacceptable for a US President, and he handled the firing like a Mob boss as well....there is no excuse for his unprofessional-ism and his threats.

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

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I am a female! We don't do Reader's Digest versions!

WHY would Nunes NOT advise his co chair of what's going on and yet run to the press with his cockamamie convoluted innuendos BEFORE even advising his committee on it? Looks to me like he either let himself be used and abused by the Admin or he was part of the ruse from the get go?

The republicans investigating won't say a flat out NO either....it always has a quantifier too...the investigation is simply not over and is on going...they just are not done yet....I don't know why and you don't know why, but THEY DO, just stop interfering and let them get their jobs done...these are not politicos investigating, these are dedicated career counter intelligence investigators. It very well could be they can't come out and clear the Trump team right now simply because they don't want to show that hand to the Russians who interfered yet....

oh and Rice asked for the unmasking for herself....we DO NOT KNOW who else asked for the unmasking in other areas of security within the gvt.

Well Shiff is not the co-chair, he is the ranking member of the minority party. If the intel folks hadn't stonewalled him, he wouldn't have needed to go the WH complex to view the reports. There was no ruse and if you noticed after viewing the reports the Dems went very silent on the maobama regime not having the campaign under surveillance. And I've already said he could have handled it better.

Grasslley and Feinstein both said flat out that Trump was not a target according to Comey. Like I said, they're going to keep the propaganda value as high as they can for as long as they can, it all politics.

Yeah and we don't know who she shared the information with, remember the reports of the regime spreading all kinds of raw data around the intel agencies?

I just hope they find the leaker's, they need to be locked up.

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The rumor was not true about spreading the intel around according to Susan Rice, they did not spread the intel around, she GATHERED all the separate info together on the Russian interference investigation aspects in to 1 report, upon the president's request for such...

What was actually leaked? The info on Flynn Lying to the vice President?

It was the info in Flynn's call to the Russian ambassador that was leaked, which is a felony.

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except no one actually leaked it, we got the shortest Reader's Digest version... at best.... it was a ''someone said'' that Fynn did discuss sanctions, no one released the classified recording, no one in the public knows what was on those recordings...or that the rumors were true....until Trump fired him for lying about discussing sanctions and telling Pence he didn't..

the classified tape of Flynn's discussions were never leaked, we've not heard them...

 

[bripat9643]

Damn, can you do the reader digest version? LOL

Question, why would Nunes tell anyone about the whistle blower till he knew what he had? Especially Adam Shiff who is nothing but a partisan punk. That said I agree he could have handled it better, then there would be no ethics investigation to fool with. I do think he will be cleared.

So Rice was the only one to see the unmasked info, so I guess we know who leaked it, RIGHT? Grey bar hotel time for her. LMAO

As for the Dems, hell no they're not going to say a flat out no, they would lose all the propaganda value. Everything has been available for months, do you seriously think there's anything new to find?

And I'm not even going into the prosecutors, it's SOP for every president, nothing to see there.

No Trump didn't threaten anyone, you folks crack me up.

Now can we get back to the topic of the thread?

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I am a female! We don't do Reader's Digest versions!

WHY would Nunes NOT advise his co chair of what's going on and yet run to the press with his cockamamie convoluted innuendos BEFORE even advising his committee on it? Looks to me like he either let himself be used and abused by the Admin or he was part of the ruse from the get go?

The republicans investigating won't say a flat out NO either....it always has a quantifier too...the investigation is simply not over and is on going...they just are not done yet....I don't know why and you don't know why, but THEY DO, just stop interfering and let them get their jobs done...these are not politicos investigating, these are dedicated career counter intelligence investigators. It very well could be they can't come out and clear the Trump team right now simply because they don't want to show that hand to the Russians who interfered yet....

oh and Rice asked for the unmasking for herself....we DO NOT KNOW who else asked for the unmasking in other areas of security within the gvt.

Well Shiff is not the co-chair, he is the ranking member of the minority party. If the intel folks hadn't stonewalled him, he wouldn't have needed to go the WH complex to view the reports. There was no ruse and if you noticed after viewing the reports the Dems went very silent on the maobama regime not having the campaign under surveillance. And I've already said he could have handled it better.

Grasslley and Feinstein both said flat out that Trump was not a target according to Comey. Like I said, they're going to keep the propaganda value as high as they can for as long as they can, it all politics.

Yeah and we don't know who she shared the information with, remember the reports of the regime spreading all kinds of raw data around the intel agencies?

I just hope they find the leaker's, they need to be locked up.

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The rumor was not true about spreading the intel around according to Susan Rice, they did not spread the intel around, she GATHERED all the separate info together on the Russian interference investigation aspects in to 1 report, upon the president's request for such...

What was actually leaked? The info on Flynn Lying to the vice President?

It was the info in Flynn's call to the Russian ambassador that was leaked, which is a felony.

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except no one actually leaked it, we got the shortest Reader's Digest version... at best.... it was a ''someone said'' that Fynn did discuss sanctions, no one released the classified recording, no one in the public knows what was on those recordings...or that the rumors were true....until Trump fired him for lying about discussing sanctions and telling Pence he didn't..

the classified tape of Flynn's discussions were never leaked, we've not heard them...

No one knows, but someone you know that he discussed sanctions. You don't have to release the recording to break the law. You simply have to discuss what is on the tape.

 

[bripat9643]

I think the "Russians influenced the election with false news" is a hilarious claim.
Almost as funny as "flirting with treason".

So when people like Rex Tillerson, and every Republican member of congress all speak out against the Russians actions and deem them a serious threat, and when our intel agencies open active investigations into these "hilarious" claims, Are all of these people just wasting time and energy over nothing? if so, what possible motive would they have in doing this?

So when people like Rex Tillerson, and every Republican member of congress all speak out against the Russians actions

Which actions? Posting fake stories about Hillary? Or posting real stories about Hillary?

Are all of these people just wasting time and energy over nothing?

Pretty much.

if so, what possible motive would they have in doing this?

Laughing at snowflake hysterics is the best way to trigger them.
If they instead nod, look serious and promise to investigate, they'll prevent millions of liberal breakdowns.

what are you talking about? Only dipshits like you get off on trying to provoke the snowflakes. The serious guys who are in charge, like Tillerson, do nod and look serious because it is serious. The fact that you can't even describe what the real issue is not recognize the threat just shows that you are only tuned into the partisan web of lies.

It's a joke and a hoax.

So Tillerson is lying along with everybody else in Washington. Your saying it is the biggest coordinated conspiracy in our nations history? That's really what you think is going on?

I don't know Tillerson's motivation, but it doesn't require a conspiracy for all of Washington to pile on Trump. They are all a bunch of lying scumbags who hate the guy.

You ridicule conspiracy, yet you and all the other snowflakes are accusing the Trump administration of that very thing.

Of course, you've never been above gross hypocrisy

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Which Trump campaign member "conspired" with any hackers? Do you have any evidence of any of your sinister accusations?

Well it could be anyone of them--but it all started in Cleveland during the RNC Convention--and these are names we've heard before.

Kushner's involvement in a meeting was first reported by The New Yorker, and Flynn's by The New York Times.

The administration official disputed the idea that accepting a meeting with the Russian ambassador could be cause for concern in light of the discussion about Russian meddling in the US election, characterizing the meeting as merely an attempt to meet key international players during the transition to power.

Then this:

"Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today.

Gordon told CNN that along with national security advisers Carter Page and Walid Phares, Gordon stressed to the Russian envoy that he would like to improve relations with Russia.

Then at this same time--Republican Convention, Cleveland in July, 2016 and long before they were even close to winning an election they decided to write foreign policy with the Russian Ambassador.

"Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine."
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

This information came out only (AFTER Flynn was busted and only AFTER Session's lied under to Oath to congress and only AFTER the Trump administration denied 5 times that they had contact with any Russians during the campaign season.)
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

This sent off a tornado siren to every intelligence agency in this country, including abroad. Which is when Comey testified that the FBI started it's investigation into the Trump campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

Then this comes out: Shep Smith states that they have phone records of Trump surrogates being on the phone not only with the Russian ambassador, but Russian intelligence agents, including the "very day" that the DNC databases were being hacked into.



CNN confirms it

Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com

John McCain wants to know why the "we will not arm the Ukranians against pro-Russian separtists" was put into the Republican Platform.



Adam Schiff cochair of the House intelligence committee states there is MORE than circumstantial evidence.



Right now there are Grand Jury Subpoenas against General Michael Flynn--who has already requested immunity from prosecution, with his lawyers stating "he has a story to tell."
Michael Flynn targeted by grand jury subpoenas, sources confirm
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/us/politics/michael-flynn-congress-immunity-russia.html

Right now the special task force within the Treasury department is looking for money laundering and shell corporations- Paul Manafort's name is mentioned in this also--who was in charge of the Trump campaign-and they're also tracking back to see who PAID the Russian hackers.
Paul Manafort’s finances, alliance with Trump draw Treasury, Justice, FBI eyes

One of Comey's comments about 1-1/2 months ago in front of a Senate hearing--he made this comment: "It's as if they didn't even care if they got caught." That can only mean one thing--they've been caught.

This by no means is going away anytime soon.

So you believe a GOP Platform debate is treason? Is that what you're left with here? Do YOU favor arming the Ukranians? Is it DEBATABLE? Should be. Without hysteria about Russian collusion FOR WHICH (on the platform issue) you have NONE..

Just like the rest of this paranoid delusion that's wasting everybody's time...

You should be investigating the DNC ties to Russian influence because CLEARLY the Ukranian policy they ENACTED was not largely different from this GOP platform plank.

Arming Ukraine: Where the 2016 Hopefuls Stand

President Barack Obama has so far resisted appeals from the beleaguered Ukrainian military to provide lethal aid such as small arms, ammunition, and anti-tank weaponry—though he has the authority to do so under a law he signed last year. President Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine, U.S. lawmakers from both parties, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and former diplomats and defense officials have all urged him to consider reversing course.

The former secretary of state and architect of the Russian "reset" policy, who has largely shunned public appearances in the last few months aside from the occasional paid speech, did comment on the Ukraine crisis last month. Clinton said she supported "putting more financial support into the Ukrainian government" during a paid speaking engagement in Winnipeg, Canada, as well as "new equipment, new training for the Ukrainians." She did not specify whether that "equipment" should include lethal arms.

A Clinton spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

Obviously those 2 DEMS were talking with Russians CONSTANTLY. And the Uranium give away approved by Mrs WhoreHopper is a MUCH clearer conflict of interest than anything you're mentioning. PLUS her campaign manager was LOBBYING for SberBank in Russia that literally OWNS 1/3 of the Russian economy..

If you're paranoid about Russians -- Let's investigate it all. That way --- the kind of question asked in this OP is APPLIED EQUALLY to both primitive warring tribes....

What an ELECTED (already won the election and is sworn into office) President does with Foreign policy is routine.

But no campaign in the middle of a campaign season has ever sat across the table from a Foreign adversary to write foreign policy. (Russians can't vote, nor can they make campaign donations.) Meaning there is absolutely no reason to meet or talk with them at that time.

It is the REASON that sent up the red flags to every intelligence agency in this country & Russian phone lines were wire tapped. Where anyone they were calling and anyone who was calling them was being wiretaped. Clearly they have a lot of contact with Trump surrogates & Russians during the campaign season.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

Furthermore the Trump administration DENIED 5 TIMES that they had any contact with Russians during the campaign season.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

According to Shep Smith's video--they were on the phone not only the Russian Ambassador but Russian intelligence agents, including the very day that DNC databases were getting hacked into.

Wrong. Hillary losing and the resulting mass hysteria of the snowflakes is the only reason that occurred.

The Trump administration denied it? You mean a couple of people denied it. The contacts were totally benign. There's no "there" there.

You're a fucking retard.

Like they say trying to reason with a Trump supporter is like trying to teach Algebra to a Chimpanzee.

This is not really a partisan political issue--it's an American issue--and we will not tolerate someone who colluded with Russians to interfere into ANY of our elections, much less occupy the Oval office. Collusion with a Foreign adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON.

I'm talking about the election. You honestly believed at the time that the wikileaks revelations would do NO HARM WHATSOEVER to Hillary's chances of winning?

Most Americans had made up their minds, snowflakes were going to vote Democrat no matter what. There wasn't much revealed that people did not already know or did not surprise them about democrats.

Hillary was the worst candidate in US history...that's the real problem with Hillary, not what was released about her.

To begin with, her name should never have been allowed on the ballot on election day anyway for being under MULTIPLE FBI investigations for crimes to conclude ESPIONAGE just days before the election.

As has been since revealed, Trump was also under investigation.

I really have no idea what news station you people are watching (if any) but I imagine it's FOX News and if they're not reporting on the ongoing Senate hearings right now--it's probably time to turn the channel.

"FBI Director James Comey told lawmakers Monday that his agency has been investigating possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian officials since last July.

The newly revealed timeline — which Comey detailed in a much-anticipated House Intelligence Committee hearing — means the FBI probe was occurring during the peak of an alleged Russian campaign to destabilize the presidential race and eventually help elect President Donald Trump."
Comey: FBI launched Trump-Russia probe in July

This news is over 3 weeks old now.

It all started at the RNC Convention in Cleveland when the Russian Ambassador met with Trump Surrogates and they started writing foreign policy together.

Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today.

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful.
But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

Collusion with a Foreign adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON.

Clinton and Gore should be executed for getting illegal Chinese campaign contributions in 1996?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I think the "Russians influenced the election with false news" is a hilarious claim.
Almost as funny as "flirting with treason".

So when people like Rex Tillerson, and every Republican member of congress all speak out against the Russians actions and deem them a serious threat, and when our intel agencies open active investigations into these "hilarious" claims, Are all of these people just wasting time and energy over nothing? if so, what possible motive would they have in doing this?

So when people like Rex Tillerson, and every Republican member of congress all speak out against the Russians actions

Which actions? Posting fake stories about Hillary? Or posting real stories about Hillary?

Are all of these people just wasting time and energy over nothing?

Pretty much.

if so, what possible motive would they have in doing this?

Laughing at snowflake hysterics is the best way to trigger them.
If they instead nod, look serious and promise to investigate, they'll prevent millions of liberal breakdowns.

what are you talking about? Only dipshits like you get off on trying to provoke the snowflakes. The serious guys who are in charge, like Tillerson, do nod and look serious because it is serious. The fact that you can't even describe what the real issue is not recognize the threat just shows that you are only tuned into the partisan web of lies.

It's a joke and a hoax.

So Tillerson is lying along with everybody else in Washington. Your saying it is the biggest coordinated conspiracy in our nations history? That's really what you think is going on?

We've investigated jokes and hoaxes before.
Remember GHW Bush flying in an SR-71 to get Iran to keep the hostages until Jan 20, 1981?

 

[oreo]

Well it could be anyone of them--but it all started in Cleveland during the RNC Convention--and these are names we've heard before.

Kushner's involvement in a meeting was first reported by The New Yorker, and Flynn's by The New York Times.

The administration official disputed the idea that accepting a meeting with the Russian ambassador could be cause for concern in light of the discussion about Russian meddling in the US election, characterizing the meeting as merely an attempt to meet key international players during the transition to power.

Then this:

"Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today.

Gordon told CNN that along with national security advisers Carter Page and Walid Phares, Gordon stressed to the Russian envoy that he would like to improve relations with Russia.

Then at this same time--Republican Convention, Cleveland in July, 2016 and long before they were even close to winning an election they decided to write foreign policy with the Russian Ambassador.

"Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful. But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine."
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

This information came out only (AFTER Flynn was busted and only AFTER Session's lied under to Oath to congress and only AFTER the Trump administration denied 5 times that they had contact with any Russians during the campaign season.)
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

This sent off a tornado siren to every intelligence agency in this country, including abroad. Which is when Comey testified that the FBI started it's investigation into the Trump campaign.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

Then this comes out: Shep Smith states that they have phone records of Trump surrogates being on the phone not only with the Russian ambassador, but Russian intelligence agents, including the "very day" that the DNC databases were being hacked into.



CNN confirms it

Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com

John McCain wants to know why the "we will not arm the Ukranians against pro-Russian separtists" was put into the Republican Platform.



Adam Schiff cochair of the House intelligence committee states there is MORE than circumstantial evidence.



Right now there are Grand Jury Subpoenas against General Michael Flynn--who has already requested immunity from prosecution, with his lawyers stating "he has a story to tell."
Michael Flynn targeted by grand jury subpoenas, sources confirm
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/us/politics/michael-flynn-congress-immunity-russia.html

Right now the special task force within the Treasury department is looking for money laundering and shell corporations- Paul Manafort's name is mentioned in this also--who was in charge of the Trump campaign-and they're also tracking back to see who PAID the Russian hackers.
Paul Manafort’s finances, alliance with Trump draw Treasury, Justice, FBI eyes

One of Comey's comments about 1-1/2 months ago in front of a Senate hearing--he made this comment: "It's as if they didn't even care if they got caught." That can only mean one thing--they've been caught.

This by no means is going away anytime soon.

So you believe a GOP Platform debate is treason? Is that what you're left with here? Do YOU favor arming the Ukranians? Is it DEBATABLE? Should be. Without hysteria about Russian collusion FOR WHICH (on the platform issue) you have NONE..

Just like the rest of this paranoid delusion that's wasting everybody's time...

You should be investigating the DNC ties to Russian influence because CLEARLY the Ukranian policy they ENACTED was not largely different from this GOP platform plank.

Arming Ukraine: Where the 2016 Hopefuls Stand

President Barack Obama has so far resisted appeals from the beleaguered Ukrainian military to provide lethal aid such as small arms, ammunition, and anti-tank weaponry—though he has the authority to do so under a law he signed last year. President Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine, U.S. lawmakers from both parties, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and former diplomats and defense officials have all urged him to consider reversing course.

The former secretary of state and architect of the Russian "reset" policy, who has largely shunned public appearances in the last few months aside from the occasional paid speech, did comment on the Ukraine crisis last month. Clinton said she supported "putting more financial support into the Ukrainian government" during a paid speaking engagement in Winnipeg, Canada, as well as "new equipment, new training for the Ukrainians." She did not specify whether that "equipment" should include lethal arms.

A Clinton spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

Obviously those 2 DEMS were talking with Russians CONSTANTLY. And the Uranium give away approved by Mrs WhoreHopper is a MUCH clearer conflict of interest than anything you're mentioning. PLUS her campaign manager was LOBBYING for SberBank in Russia that literally OWNS 1/3 of the Russian economy..

If you're paranoid about Russians -- Let's investigate it all. That way --- the kind of question asked in this OP is APPLIED EQUALLY to both primitive warring tribes....

What an ELECTED (already won the election and is sworn into office) President does with Foreign policy is routine.

But no campaign in the middle of a campaign season has ever sat across the table from a Foreign adversary to write foreign policy. (Russians can't vote, nor can they make campaign donations.) Meaning there is absolutely no reason to meet or talk with them at that time.

It is the REASON that sent up the red flags to every intelligence agency in this country & Russian phone lines were wire tapped. Where anyone they were calling and anyone who was calling them was being wiretaped. Clearly they have a lot of contact with Trump surrogates & Russians during the campaign season.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

Furthermore the Trump administration DENIED 5 TIMES that they had any contact with Russians during the campaign season.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

According to Shep Smith's video--they were on the phone not only the Russian Ambassador but Russian intelligence agents, including the very day that DNC databases were getting hacked into.

Wrong. Hillary losing and the resulting mass hysteria of the snowflakes is the only reason that occurred.

The Trump administration denied it? You mean a couple of people denied it. The contacts were totally benign. There's no "there" there.

You're a fucking retard.

Like they say trying to reason with a Trump supporter is like trying to teach Algebra to a Chimpanzee.

This is not really a partisan political issue--it's an American issue--and we will not tolerate someone who colluded with Russians to interfere into ANY of our elections, much less occupy the Oval office. Collusion with a Foreign adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON.

I'm talking about the election. You honestly believed at the time that the wikileaks revelations would do NO HARM WHATSOEVER to Hillary's chances of winning?

Most Americans had made up their minds, snowflakes were going to vote Democrat no matter what. There wasn't much revealed that people did not already know or did not surprise them about democrats.

Hillary was the worst candidate in US history...that's the real problem with Hillary, not what was released about her.

To begin with, her name should never have been allowed on the ballot on election day anyway for being under MULTIPLE FBI investigations for crimes to conclude ESPIONAGE just days before the election.

As has been since revealed, Trump was also under investigation.

I really have no idea what news station you people are watching (if any) but I imagine it's FOX News and if they're not reporting on the ongoing Senate hearings right now--it's probably time to turn the channel.

"FBI Director James Comey told lawmakers Monday that his agency has been investigating possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian officials since last July.

The newly revealed timeline — which Comey detailed in a much-anticipated House Intelligence Committee hearing — means the FBI probe was occurring during the peak of an alleged Russian campaign to destabilize the presidential race and eventually help elect President Donald Trump."
Comey: FBI launched Trump-Russia probe in July

This news is over 3 weeks old now.

It all started at the RNC Convention in Cleveland when the Russian Ambassador met with Trump Surrogates and they started writing foreign policy together.

Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today.

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful.
But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

Collusion with a Foreign adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON.

Clinton and Gore should be executed for getting illegal Chinese campaign contributions in 1996?

Well you'll have to pull a verifiable trusted link up for that one--otherwise it goes into the file.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.

Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.

Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.

Any takers?

.

How is it that you don't know the answer yourself?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So you believe a GOP Platform debate is treason? Is that what you're left with here? Do YOU favor arming the Ukranians? Is it DEBATABLE? Should be. Without hysteria about Russian collusion FOR WHICH (on the platform issue) you have NONE..

Just like the rest of this paranoid delusion that's wasting everybody's time...

You should be investigating the DNC ties to Russian influence because CLEARLY the Ukranian policy they ENACTED was not largely different from this GOP platform plank.

Arming Ukraine: Where the 2016 Hopefuls Stand

President Barack Obama has so far resisted appeals from the beleaguered Ukrainian military to provide lethal aid such as small arms, ammunition, and anti-tank weaponry—though he has the authority to do so under a law he signed last year. President Petro Poroshenko of Ukraine, U.S. lawmakers from both parties, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and former diplomats and defense officials have all urged him to consider reversing course.

The former secretary of state and architect of the Russian "reset" policy, who has largely shunned public appearances in the last few months aside from the occasional paid speech, did comment on the Ukraine crisis last month. Clinton said she supported "putting more financial support into the Ukrainian government" during a paid speaking engagement in Winnipeg, Canada, as well as "new equipment, new training for the Ukrainians." She did not specify whether that "equipment" should include lethal arms.

A Clinton spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

Obviously those 2 DEMS were talking with Russians CONSTANTLY. And the Uranium give away approved by Mrs WhoreHopper is a MUCH clearer conflict of interest than anything you're mentioning. PLUS her campaign manager was LOBBYING for SberBank in Russia that literally OWNS 1/3 of the Russian economy..

If you're paranoid about Russians -- Let's investigate it all. That way --- the kind of question asked in this OP is APPLIED EQUALLY to both primitive warring tribes....

What an ELECTED (already won the election and is sworn into office) President does with Foreign policy is routine.

But no campaign in the middle of a campaign season has ever sat across the table from a Foreign adversary to write foreign policy. (Russians can't vote, nor can they make campaign donations.) Meaning there is absolutely no reason to meet or talk with them at that time.

It is the REASON that sent up the red flags to every intelligence agency in this country & Russian phone lines were wire tapped. Where anyone they were calling and anyone who was calling them was being wiretaped. Clearly they have a lot of contact with Trump surrogates & Russians during the campaign season.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/20/us/politics/fbi-investigation-trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

Furthermore the Trump administration DENIED 5 TIMES that they had any contact with Russians during the campaign season.
Analysis | 5 times Donald Trump’s team denied contact with Russia

According to Shep Smith's video--they were on the phone not only the Russian Ambassador but Russian intelligence agents, including the very day that DNC databases were getting hacked into.

Wrong. Hillary losing and the resulting mass hysteria of the snowflakes is the only reason that occurred.

The Trump administration denied it? You mean a couple of people denied it. The contacts were totally benign. There's no "there" there.

You're a fucking retard.

Like they say trying to reason with a Trump supporter is like trying to teach Algebra to a Chimpanzee.

This is not really a partisan political issue--it's an American issue--and we will not tolerate someone who colluded with Russians to interfere into ANY of our elections, much less occupy the Oval office. Collusion with a Foreign adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON.

I'm talking about the election. You honestly believed at the time that the wikileaks revelations would do NO HARM WHATSOEVER to Hillary's chances of winning?

Most Americans had made up their minds, snowflakes were going to vote Democrat no matter what. There wasn't much revealed that people did not already know or did not surprise them about democrats.

Hillary was the worst candidate in US history...that's the real problem with Hillary, not what was released about her.

To begin with, her name should never have been allowed on the ballot on election day anyway for being under MULTIPLE FBI investigations for crimes to conclude ESPIONAGE just days before the election.

As has been since revealed, Trump was also under investigation.

I really have no idea what news station you people are watching (if any) but I imagine it's FOX News and if they're not reporting on the ongoing Senate hearings right now--it's probably time to turn the channel.

"FBI Director James Comey told lawmakers Monday that his agency has been investigating possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Russian officials since last July.

The newly revealed timeline — which Comey detailed in a much-anticipated House Intelligence Committee hearing — means the FBI probe was occurring during the peak of an alleged Russian campaign to destabilize the presidential race and eventually help elect President Donald Trump."
Comey: FBI launched Trump-Russia probe in July

This news is over 3 weeks old now.

It all started at the RNC Convention in Cleveland when the Russian Ambassador met with Trump Surrogates and they started writing foreign policy together.

Another national security adviser to the Trump campaign, J.D. Gordon, also disclosed Thursday that he had met with Kislyak, this time during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July. That meeting was first reported by USA Today.

Gordon had advocated for language in the GOP platform that the Ukrainians not be armed in their battle against pro-Russian separatists, an effort was ultimately successful.
But Gordon says he was simply advocating what Trump himself had expressed -- that he did not wish to see major war break out over the situation in Ukraine.
More Trump advisers disclose meeting with Russia's ambassador - CNNPolitics.com

Collusion with a Foreign adversary to interfere into an American election is TREASON.

Clinton and Gore should be executed for getting illegal Chinese campaign contributions in 1996?

Well you'll have to pull a verifiable trusted link up for that one--otherwise it goes into the file.

Washingtonpost.com: Campaign Finance Special Report

 

[oreo]

I've posed this hypothetical question to a couple of members and so far no one seems up to the task of providing an answer. So now I'm posing it the whole board.

Ok, here's a hypothetical scenario. Let's say a Trump associate spoke to a Russian representative. The Russian told him we have some really bad shit on the hildabitch and the representative said wow, it would sure help us if you released it on Tuesday and they did exactly that.

Tell me, what specific law would have been broken? Don't give me an opinion, quote the law.

Any takers?

.

How is it that you don't know the answer yourself?

They don't know the answer themselves because they're attached to Trump's fairy Godfather, Sean Hannity and other right wing talk show hosts--so they can listen to the news (they WANT to hear.)