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It should be a crime in any neighborhoodIf some kids in that suburb decided to shoplift a candy bar would that crime cause that affluent area to be impoverished?
that does not mean throw the book at kids for stealing candy bars
but dont pat them on the head with no consequences either
and maybe more so in the ghetto cause those kids have a narrower window of oppertunity
I have not directly condemned your behaviorShow me where I have excused my own behavior or anyone else's?
I have not directly condemned your behaviorShow me where I have excused my own behavior or anyone else's?
that was your story and you can tell it the way you want to
Nor did I deny that poverty contributes to crime
but we do disagree on how and why
kids in poor neighborhoods grow up around adults who made poor choices in life themselves and never escaped the poverty
kids imitate their elders and often turn to stealing as an accepted activity
How would you like to be heading up Economic Development for Seattle trying to attract businesses to locate there? Relaxing criminal law while defunding the police. Yea, that's a great incentive.During the Great Depression, with much of the United States mired in grinding poverty and unemployment, some Americans found increased opportunities in criminal activities like bootlegging, robbing banks, loan-sharking—even murder.
Crime in the Great Depression - Rate, FBI, Prohibition | HISTORY
The Great Depression saw a rise in criminal activity and the glorification of the characters involved, from daring bank robbers to the G-men hunting them down.www.history.com
Criminal activity was illegal then, Seattle wants to make a lot of it acceptable. Time were different then, most of the country wasn't as mobile as it is now. So, if you stole something, people knew who you were and you didn't get away with it. Seattle wants to change that. Throw in the fact the Seattle and other cities want to defund the police, right? How does anyone not see the writing on the wall?
You mean stealing to buy drugs, Nike shoes, gold teeth, and “walking around money”When circumstances change people do not continue stealing to survive.
You mean stealing to buy drugs, Nike shoes, gold teeth, and “walking around money”When circumstances change people do not continue stealing to survive.
we throw hundreds of billions at the ghetto and no one starves, not even the most zonked out junkies
Only if their drug addicted mom spends the foodstamp money to get highyou'd be surprised how many hungry kids there are in the "ghetto"
Would they still do that as much if they could obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?You mean stealing to buy drugs, Nike shoes, gold teeth, and “walking around money”When circumstances change people do not continue stealing to survive.
we throw hundreds of billions at the ghetto and no one starves, not even the most zonked out junkies
Up for debate is a reform proposed by Seattle City Councilmember Lisa Herbold. For up to 100 different misdemeanor crimes, including theft, harassment, shoplifting, trespassing, and more, an individual could be excused if he or she claims poverty was their motive.
“In a situation where you took that sandwich because you were hungry and you were trying to meet your basic need of satisfying your hunger; we as the community will know that we should not punish that,” King County Director of Public Defense Anita Khandelwal said of the proposal, which she helped craft. “That conduct is excused.”
The intent of the proposal is to avoid punishing desperate people just trying to survive. But the provision exempts not only stealing food or similar necessities, but stealing anything—if you claim the money gained from its sale would be used for essentials.
First and foremost, this policy would obviously incentivize more crime and more theft.
Why Seattle’s Proposed ‘Poverty Excuse’ for Crimes Would Destroy the City’s Economy
“I think it’s insane,” one victimized barber told a local news outlet. He's not wrong.fee.org
Words fail to adequately describe the idiocy behind such proposals. If you want something, steal it and if you get caught plead poverty and cry me a river. This is basically anarchy, who could operate a business under such rules? Somebody breaks into your business and steals you blind and nothing happens. Or they burn the place down citing BLM. Geez, such a beautiful place that is on the fast track to being a shithole city.
During the Great Depression of the 1930s, did a lot of people engage in looting and robbery?
Absolutely.
10 Famous Depression-era Bank Robbers - Listverse
Only if their drug addicted mom spends the foodstamp money to get highyou'd be surprised how many hungry kids there are in the "ghetto"
what do you think welfare is?Would they still do that as much if they could obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?You mean stealing to buy drugs, Nike shoes, gold teeth, and “walking around money”When circumstances change people do not continue stealing to survive.
we throw hundreds of billions at the ghetto and no one starves, not even the most zonked out junkies
Up for debate is a reform proposed by Seattle City Councilmember Lisa Herbold. For up to 100 different misdemeanor crimes, including theft, harassment, shoplifting, trespassing, and more, an individual could be excused if he or she claims poverty was their motive.
“In a situation where you took that sandwich because you were hungry and you were trying to meet your basic need of satisfying your hunger; we as the community will know that we should not punish that,” King County Director of Public Defense Anita Khandelwal said of the proposal, which she helped craft. “That conduct is excused.”
The intent of the proposal is to avoid punishing desperate people just trying to survive. But the provision exempts not only stealing food or similar necessities, but stealing anything—if you claim the money gained from its sale would be used for essentials.
First and foremost, this policy would obviously incentivize more crime and more theft.
Why Seattle’s Proposed ‘Poverty Excuse’ for Crimes Would Destroy the City’s Economy
“I think it’s insane,” one victimized barber told a local news outlet. He's not wrong.
Words fail to adequately describe the idiocy behind such proposals. If you want something, steal it and if you get caught plead poverty and cry me a river. This is basically anarchy, who could operate a business under such rules? Somebody breaks into your business and steals you blind and nothing happens. Or they burn the place down citing BLM. Geez, such a beautiful place that is on the fast track to being a shithole city.
During the Great Depression of the 1930s, did a lot of people engage in looting and robbery?
Absolutely.
10 Famous Depression-era Bank Robbers - Listverse
I'll address the elephant in the room...white America is extremely law abiding, respect for law and order is deeply imbedded in our culture.
NO...criminality is not a poverty thing...look to all white Appalachia for proof.
• In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely.
For the crime of “shooting”—defined as firing a bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely. • If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.
• In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
“At-will employment in at-will employment states”Would they still do that as much if they could obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?
Up for debate is a reform proposed by Seattle City Councilmember Lisa Herbold. For up to 100 different misdemeanor crimes, including theft, harassment, shoplifting, trespassing, and more, an individual could be excused if he or she claims poverty was their motive.
“In a situation where you took that sandwich because you were hungry and you were trying to meet your basic need of satisfying your hunger; we as the community will know that we should not punish that,” King County Director of Public Defense Anita Khandelwal said of the proposal, which she helped craft. “That conduct is excused.”
The intent of the proposal is to avoid punishing desperate people just trying to survive. But the provision exempts not only stealing food or similar necessities, but stealing anything—if you claim the money gained from its sale would be used for essentials.
First and foremost, this policy would obviously incentivize more crime and more theft.
Why Seattle’s Proposed ‘Poverty Excuse’ for Crimes Would Destroy the City’s Economy
“I think it’s insane,” one victimized barber told a local news outlet. He's not wrong.
Words fail to adequately describe the idiocy behind such proposals. If you want something, steal it and if you get caught plead poverty and cry me a river. This is basically anarchy, who could operate a business under such rules? Somebody breaks into your business and steals you blind and nothing happens. Or they burn the place down citing BLM. Geez, such a beautiful place that is on the fast track to being a shithole city.
During the Great Depression of the 1930s, did a lot of people engage in looting and robbery?
Absolutely.
10 Famous Depression-era Bank Robbers - Listverse
I'll address the elephant in the room...white America is extremely law abiding, respect for law and order is deeply imbedded in our culture.
NO...criminality is not a poverty thing...look to all white Appalachia for proof.
• In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely.
For the crime of “shooting”—defined as firing a bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely. • If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.
• In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
What was Trump's excuse for ripping people off?
Greed. Poverty and greed are the two biggest contributor's to crime.
maybe more than bleeding heart liberals thinkand it happens more than you think.
While crime in Appalachia is low compared to national averages (see Exhibit l), part ofUp for debate is a reform proposed by Seattle City Councilmember Lisa Herbold. For up to 100 different misdemeanor crimes, including theft, harassment, shoplifting, trespassing, and more, an individual could be excused if he or she claims poverty was their motive.
“In a situation where you took that sandwich because you were hungry and you were trying to meet your basic need of satisfying your hunger; we as the community will know that we should not punish that,” King County Director of Public Defense Anita Khandelwal said of the proposal, which she helped craft. “That conduct is excused.”
The intent of the proposal is to avoid punishing desperate people just trying to survive. But the provision exempts not only stealing food or similar necessities, but stealing anything—if you claim the money gained from its sale would be used for essentials.
First and foremost, this policy would obviously incentivize more crime and more theft.
Why Seattle’s Proposed ‘Poverty Excuse’ for Crimes Would Destroy the City’s Economy
“I think it’s insane,” one victimized barber told a local news outlet. He's not wrong.
Words fail to adequately describe the idiocy behind such proposals. If you want something, steal it and if you get caught plead poverty and cry me a river. This is basically anarchy, who could operate a business under such rules? Somebody breaks into your business and steals you blind and nothing happens. Or they burn the place down citing BLM. Geez, such a beautiful place that is on the fast track to being a shithole city.
During the Great Depression of the 1930s, did a lot of people engage in looting and robbery?
Absolutely.
10 Famous Depression-era Bank Robbers - Listverse
I'll address the elephant in the room...white America is extremely law abiding, respect for law and order is deeply imbedded in our culture.
NO...criminality is not a poverty thing...look to all white Appalachia for proof.
• In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely.
For the crime of “shooting”—defined as firing a bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely. • If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.
• In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
What was Trump's excuse for ripping people off?
Greed. Poverty and greed are the two biggest contributor's to crime.
How did he rip people off?
Aren't we talking about how poverty correlates with crime?
Why is there such little crime in poverty stricken predominantly white Appalachia?
Definitely not a solution. Means testing is not the same as actually solving for economic phenomena.what do you think welfare is?Would they still do that as much if they could obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?You mean stealing to buy drugs, Nike shoes, gold teeth, and “walking around money”When circumstances change people do not continue stealing to survive.
we throw hundreds of billions at the ghetto and no one starves, not even the most zonked out junkies
You simply have no solutions. Why blame the Poor.“At-will employment in at-will employment states”Would they still do that as much if they could obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States?
who else besides you speaks that dialect of Liberish?
but i think I savvy your lingo
let me see if I do
you have a 27 year old loser with a BA in gender studies working as a soda jerk at Starbucks
and he wants to go hiking in the desert for a month but cant afford to leave his job unless he gets paid unemployment insurance
which the state will not do
And all I can say is thank goodness
No big cities in Appalachia?Up for debate is a reform proposed by Seattle City Councilmember Lisa Herbold. For up to 100 different misdemeanor crimes, including theft, harassment, shoplifting, trespassing, and more, an individual could be excused if he or she claims poverty was their motive.
“In a situation where you took that sandwich because you were hungry and you were trying to meet your basic need of satisfying your hunger; we as the community will know that we should not punish that,” King County Director of Public Defense Anita Khandelwal said of the proposal, which she helped craft. “That conduct is excused.”
The intent of the proposal is to avoid punishing desperate people just trying to survive. But the provision exempts not only stealing food or similar necessities, but stealing anything—if you claim the money gained from its sale would be used for essentials.
First and foremost, this policy would obviously incentivize more crime and more theft.
Why Seattle’s Proposed ‘Poverty Excuse’ for Crimes Would Destroy the City’s Economy
“I think it’s insane,” one victimized barber told a local news outlet. He's not wrong.
Words fail to adequately describe the idiocy behind such proposals. If you want something, steal it and if you get caught plead poverty and cry me a river. This is basically anarchy, who could operate a business under such rules? Somebody breaks into your business and steals you blind and nothing happens. Or they burn the place down citing BLM. Geez, such a beautiful place that is on the fast track to being a shithole city.
During the Great Depression of the 1930s, did a lot of people engage in looting and robbery?
Absolutely.
10 Famous Depression-era Bank Robbers - Listverse
I'll address the elephant in the room...white America is extremely law abiding, respect for law and order is deeply imbedded in our culture.
NO...criminality is not a poverty thing...look to all white Appalachia for proof.
• In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely.
For the crime of “shooting”—defined as firing a bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely. • If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.
• In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
What was Trump's excuse for ripping people off?
Greed. Poverty and greed are the two biggest contributor's to crime.
How did he rip people off?
Aren't we talking about how poverty correlates with crime?
Why is there such little crime in poverty stricken predominantly white Appalachia?
While crime in Appalachia is low compared to national averages (see Exhibit l), part ofUp for debate is a reform proposed by Seattle City Councilmember Lisa Herbold. For up to 100 different misdemeanor crimes, including theft, harassment, shoplifting, trespassing, and more, an individual could be excused if he or she claims poverty was their motive.
“In a situation where you took that sandwich because you were hungry and you were trying to meet your basic need of satisfying your hunger; we as the community will know that we should not punish that,” King County Director of Public Defense Anita Khandelwal said of the proposal, which she helped craft. “That conduct is excused.”
The intent of the proposal is to avoid punishing desperate people just trying to survive. But the provision exempts not only stealing food or similar necessities, but stealing anything—if you claim the money gained from its sale would be used for essentials.
First and foremost, this policy would obviously incentivize more crime and more theft.
Why Seattle’s Proposed ‘Poverty Excuse’ for Crimes Would Destroy the City’s Economy
“I think it’s insane,” one victimized barber told a local news outlet. He's not wrong.
Words fail to adequately describe the idiocy behind such proposals. If you want something, steal it and if you get caught plead poverty and cry me a river. This is basically anarchy, who could operate a business under such rules? Somebody breaks into your business and steals you blind and nothing happens. Or they burn the place down citing BLM. Geez, such a beautiful place that is on the fast track to being a shithole city.
During the Great Depression of the 1930s, did a lot of people engage in looting and robbery?
Absolutely.
10 Famous Depression-era Bank Robbers - Listverse
I'll address the elephant in the room...white America is extremely law abiding, respect for law and order is deeply imbedded in our culture.
NO...criminality is not a poverty thing...look to all white Appalachia for proof.
• In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely.
For the crime of “shooting”—defined as firing a bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely. • If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.
• In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
What was Trump's excuse for ripping people off?
Greed. Poverty and greed are the two biggest contributor's to crime.
How did he rip people off?
Aren't we talking about how poverty correlates with crime?
Why is there such little crime in poverty stricken predominantly white Appalachia?
this is due to the predominately nonmetropolitan character of the Region. Crime levels in
nonmetropolitan areas in every part of the country are almost always well below those of
metropolitan locations.--https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/189560.pdf
