The real insurrection

[AntonToo]

I’m sure that the 99% of emotionally disturbed idiots who showed up are part of a planned conspiracy.

If you are so sure why the fuck are you wasting everyone's time with your denials that insurection happened on Jan 6th?

 

[Indeependent]

If you are so sure why the fuck are you wasting everyone's time with your denials that insurection happened on Jan 6th?

My job is to make sure you’re on the path to a mental breakdown and heart attack.

 

[bripat9643]

Bullshit. Violent crimes were clearly in pursuit of "stopping the steal" that was the certification of the election by Congress.

For example:

Conviction of Paul Allard Hodgkins :

Federal: Obstructing or Impeding Any Official Proceeding and Aiding and Abetting; Knowingly Entering ... Restricted Building or Grounds Without Lawful Authority and Impeding or Disrupting Official Functions; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in Capitol Buildings

Criminal proceedings in the January 6 United States Capitol attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That is clearly insurection against the government.

Did want to see true violent crimes?

Don't talk to us about violent crimes until you acknowledge these insurrectionists.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Sweetheart, that's the MISSION statement of MAGA...

Destroy the courts, destroy the press, destroy the election process, destroy our teaching institutions, destroy the Board of education, destroy the peaceful transfer of power.... Destroy our nation!!!!


LOOK IN THE gosh darn MIRROR, before you try to push that bull crud.

Wow you Dimmers get crazier and nuttier with each post....destroy the courts? Not us out there illegally whining about a non-decision...as for the press and teaching institutions, they need to be razed and rebuilt to correct all the commie crap they are spewing. Wow, nutbags.

 

[Care4all]

Wow you Dimmers get crazier and nuttier with each post....destroy the courts? Not us out there illegally whining about a non-decision...as for the press and teaching institutions, they need to be razed and rebuilt to correct all the commie crap they are spewing. Wow, nutbags.

Have you been deaf and blind the past 6 years? Trump's first mission was to destroy the judicial branch, claiming a judge's ruling against him was partisan, was because he was of Mexican decent....

and to push and brainwash you that the press was fake news, the enemy of the people, as all other dictator and crooked wannabes do!


Wake up!

 

[jbrownson0831]

Have you been deaf and blind the past 6 years? Trump's first mission was to destroy the judicial branch, claiming a judge's ruling against him was partisan, was because he was of Mexican decent....

and to push and brainwash you that the press was fake news, the enemy of the people, as all other dictator and crooked wannabes do!


Wake up!

You doofuses spend ALL your time obsessing over Trump and this or that thing you THINK he did, while all along you have proven felons in your party just feloning along continuing to break the law and screw the American people, while you just whistle a happy tune. Your clock is ticking, real Americans are fed up and it starts with the mid terms. You will be whining all alone.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The leaker is very likely to have been a conservative. What's that do for your theory?

Oh bullshit. There is a 50-50 chance the leaker was conservative. An equal likelihood is a liberal leaked it to fire up their base and hopefully grab Independents for the ‘22 ELECTIONS. $4-$6 gas prices and 8.3 percent inflation are not helping Biden-Harris-Pelosi-Schumer.

 

[AntonToo]

Did want to see true violent crimes?

Don't talk to us about violent crimes until you acknowledge these insurrectionists.

Dummy, what government function does GM TOBACCO perform?

Some other violence somewhere IS NOT evidence that Jan 6th wasn't an insurection.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Bullshit. Violent crimes were clearly in pursuit of "stopping the steal" that was the certification of the election by Congress.

For example:

Conviction of Paul Allard Hodgkins :

Federal: Obstructing or Impeding Any Official Proceeding and Aiding and Abetting; Knowingly Entering ... Restricted Building or Grounds Without Lawful Authority and Impeding or Disrupting Official Functions; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in Capitol Buildings

Criminal proceedings in the January 6 United States Capitol attack - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That is clearly insurection against the government.

Here is the LEGAL definition of Insurrection:

US Legal

Insurrection Law and Legal Definition​

Insurrection refers to an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. It is a violent revolt against an oppressive authority. Insurrection is different from riots and offenses connected with mob violence. In insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government whereas riots and offenses connected with mob violence are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.

LINK

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Over 95% of the people who entered into the Capital were UNARMED and mostly milling around not threatening anyone certainly not a sign of insurrection going on.

You say they tried to disrupt the certification process:

"Violent crimes were clearly in pursuit of "stopping the steal" that was the certification of the election by Congress."

That is called a Riot/Mob action not to overthrow anything but make a lot of noise aimlessly disrupt something and little else.

Seditious Conspiracy by law:

Wikipedia

In the United States, seditious conspiracy is codified at 18 U.S.C. § 2384:

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

This law was enacted in 1861 after secessionists gained control of most slaveholding states, although it was originally sought by Senator Stephen A. Douglas in response to John Brown's 1859 raid on a federal arsenal. A substantially similar offense appeared in the Sedition Act of 1798, which expired in 1801.[6]

LINK

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You have no case to prove just being ignorant and stupid is what you offer here.

You didn't post a link

There is NO insurrection at all just stupid mob actions.

 

[Sunsettommy]

If you are so sure why the fuck are you wasting everyone's time with your denials that insurection happened on Jan 6th?

The FBI and the DOJ doesn't agree with you which is why many here are saying there is no insurrection.

The FBI after 1 1/2 years of investigation said there was no insurrection at all.

 

[Sunsettommy]

From Find Law is this essay about Sedition:

Sedition​

By FindLaw Staff | Reviewed by Maddy Teka, Esq. | Last updated January 08, 2021

Excerpt:

Suppose that over the course of a few months, a small band of armed militants has coordinated strategies to distribute firearms and take over the nation's capital by force through a website on the clandestine "deep web." All indications show that the group is dead serious in its intentions, but they're thwarted by an FBI investigation that leads to arrests. While sharing information and discussing ideas -- even distasteful ones -- is generally protected as free speech, the FBI believes this crosses the line. The alleged ringleaders of the plot are charged with "seditious conspiracy" (simply referred to as "sedition"), a federal crime related to treason and other anti-government offenses.

Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it. The following provides an overview of this particular crime against the government, with historical references.

Seditious Conspiracy and Federal Law: The Basics​

LINK

Insurrection isn't the same as Seditious Conspiracy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Garland won't do a damn thing!

Democrats don't get punished.

 

[AntonToo]

Here is the LEGAL definition of Insurrection:

US Legal

Insurrection Law and Legal Definition​

Insurrection refers to an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. It is a violent revolt against an oppressive authority. Insurrection is different from riots and offenses connected with mob violence. In insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government whereas riots and offenses connected with mob violence are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.

LINK

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Over 95% of the people who entered into the Capital were UNARMED and mostly milling around not threatening anyone certainly not a sign of insurrection going on.

You say they tried to disrupt the certification process:

"Violent crimes were clearly in pursuit of "stopping the steal" that was the certification of the election by Congress."

That is called a Riot/Mob action not to overthrow anything but make a lot of noise aimlessly disrupt something and little else.

Seditious Conspiracy by law:

Wikipedia

In the United States, seditious conspiracy is codified at 18 U.S.C. § 2384:




LINK

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You have no case to prove just being ignorant and stupid is what you offer here.

You didn't post a link

There is NO insurrection at all just stupid mob actions.

Nice story.

Justice department has now brought Senditious Conspiracy charges in Jan6th attack.

Whoops.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Nice story.

Justice department has now brought Senditious Conspiracy charges in Jan6th attack.

Whoops.

That isn't what insurrection is you idiot!

I showed you the difference between what Insurrection is and what Sedition Conspiracy is, and you ignored it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nice story.

Justice department has now brought Senditious Conspiracy charges in Jan6th attack.

Whoops.

Can you be so stupid as to continue to parrot the lie about the false flag operation Jan6????


After your sort committed over 12 thousand riots, you actually believe it was Americans.....Trump supporters who rioted????????





“VIDEO: Suspicious Black-Clad ‘Operatives’ Were First Ones Up Capitol Building Stairs On 1/6

A new video exposed by Gateway Pundit shows suspicous black-clad figures on the steps of the Capitol building on 1/6.” VIDEO: Suspicious Black-Clad 'Operatives' Were First Ones Up Capitol Building Stairs On 1/6






‘Leftist Antifa Among Mob Storming US Capitol’



– Facial recognition experts and backers of American President Donald J. Trump said members of the hardline leftist Antifa movement infiltrated protestors who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.



Several witnesses and reports monitored by Worthy News suggested radical leftist vandals broke into the building housing the U.S. Congress while most Trump supporters were loud but peaceful.” https://www.worthynews.com/55452-leftist-antifa-among-mob-storming-us-capitol



There is no disputing that the Democrats have had far more practice at riots than the Right.



Biden voters are well practiced.





. “No one can point to any statement from President Trump calling upon his supporters to storm the Capitol, much less to stage a coup against the U.S. government, but it doesn’t matter anymore. The establishment media and the social media giants are insisting that he incited the attack on the Capitol and was trying to install himself as a dictator by means of a guy with a buffalo horn hat and some other dopes and wingnuts, and if you don’t believe it, you’re a racist, bigoted, MAGA-hat-wearing fascist who deserves to be silenced along with the president, and soon will be. But it’s clear who the real fascists are, and they are exploiting their Reichstag Fire moment to the fullest.” The Left Is Enjoying Its Reichstag Fire Moment







“Video Reveals Trump Supporters Tried to Stop the Violence
Violence by Antifa on the south side where Trump supporters were told to March to. Supporters stopped the breakage but he started again later. MSM keeps saying it’s Trump http://supporters.it’s not.

Video Reveals Trump Supporters Tried to Stop the Violence | Conservative Insider

conservativeinsider.org

“BLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested



The Utah Black Lives Matter "activist" has been bragging about his involvement in instigating the Capitol riots. Now, he's been arrested.



The deadly riots at the Capitol last week that have sparked Big Tech cancelations and prompted another impeachment of President Trump were instigated in part by Black Lives Matter and Antifa “activists,” according to multiple media reports. One of the highest profile suspects, John Earle Sullivan from Utah, has been arrested.”



This story will be buried by mainstream media and suppressed by Big Tech. The arrest of John Earle Sullivan, a known Black Lives Matter leader and provocateur, belies the accepted narrative that Trump-supporters alone caused the riots.” BLM instigator of Capitol riots, John Earle Sullivan, arrested





“James, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots

John Sullivan was arrested yesterday in connection with instigating the Capitol riots on January 6th. A video of him and CNN photojournalist Jade Sacker emerged this week that shows them giddy following the murder of Trump-supporter Ashli Babbitt. Now, Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani is wondering why a text message from James Sullivan was not revealed during the President’s second impeachment hearings in Congress.



According to the text, James Sullivan makes a very bold claim: “I’m currently working with the FBI to expose and place total blame on John and the 226 members of antifa that instigated the Capitol ‘riot’ I was able to get my agent out of trouble along with three other uthan’s.”



…every day brings more evidence that Antifa and other left-wing “activists” incited the crowd to commit crimes. Videos of Antifa members secretly embedded with the Trump-supporters appear to reinforce these claims.



This all jibes with the credible conspiracy theory that Democrats or other interested parties planned this “false flag” attack in order to push for impeachment.” James, brother of accused leftist provocateur John Sullivan, claims 226 Antifa members started Capitol riots







“Verified twitter user Amuse breaks everything down in further detail in a series of tweets.



"To make this clear. CNN was embedded with BLM/Antifa pretending to be Trump supporters taping them incite a riot. This is freaking huge. If CNN is allowed to maintain its press access anywhere in DC there needs to be a serious overhaul of our entire system," he tweeted.



Here's another one, who showed up with furs, and also got himself arrested. According to the New York Post:



Aaron Mostofsky was busted Tuesday at his brother’s house in Brooklyn by federal agents on multiple charges, including theft of government property for allegedly stealing a police riot shield and bulletproof vest, the source said.



Mostofsky, who is the son of Shlomo Mostofsky, a Supreme Court judge and a prominent figure in the Orthodox Jewish community, was photographed with both items.



Video circulating on Twitter following Mostofsky’s arrest shows FBI agents swarming the home and carting out what appeared to be the fur pelts and walking stick he had on him during the insurrection.



His politics? According to this report, registered Democrat.”

Rush to judgment on Trump? Multiple leftists arrested for Capitol riot



And Zero Hedge.

 

[AntonToo]

That isn't what insurrection is you idiot!

I showed you the difference between what Insurrection is and what Sedition Conspiracy is, and you ignored it.

Dictionary definition of the word:

in·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a violent uprising against an authority or government


Now explain to me why you think Jan6th does not fit that definition. Just because it is not codified that way in law does not mean it's not insurection.

 

[Orangecat]

The leaker is very likely to have been a conservative.

Save your alinsky bullshit for your fellow useful idiots, please.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Dictionary definition of the word:

in·sur·rec·tion
/ˌinsəˈrekSH(ə)n/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a violent uprising against an authority or government


Now explain to me why you think Jan6th does not fit that definition. Just because it is not codified that way in law does not mean it's not insurection.

I gave you the LEGAL definition and you ignored it here it is again:

Insurrection Law and Legal Definition​

Insurrection refers to an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. It is a violent revolt against an oppressive authority. Insurrection is different from riots and offenses connected with mob violence. In insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government whereas riots and offenses connected with mob violence are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.

LINK

Instead, we get Seditious Conspiracy which is defined here:

Seditious Conspiracy by law:

Wikipedia

In the United States, seditious conspiracy is codified at 18 U.S.C. § 2384:

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

This law was enacted in 1861 after secessionists gained control of most slaveholding states, although it was originally sought by Senator Stephen A. Douglas in response to John Brown's 1859 raid on a federal arsenal. A substantially similar offense appeared in the Sedition Act of 1798, which expired in 1801.[6]

LINK

The difference is obvious to intelligent people, you one of them?

 

[AntonToo]

I gave you the LEGAL definition and you ignored it here it is again:

Insurrection Law and Legal Definition​

Insurrection refers to an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. It is a violent revolt against an oppressive authority. Insurrection is different from riots and offenses connected with mob violence. In insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government whereas riots and offenses connected with mob violence are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.

LINK

Instead, we get Seditious Conspiracy which is defined here:

Seditious Conspiracy by law:

Wikipedia

In the United States, seditious conspiracy is codified at 18 U.S.C. § 2384:




LINK

The difference is obvious to intelligent people, you one of them?

You keep talking like words have meaning only as codified law. THAT IS BLATANTLY FALSE.

I gave you dictionary definition of the word and it clearly fits what happened on Jan 6th.

You can't refute that.

 

[Sunsettommy]

You keep talking like words have meaning only as codified law. THAT IS BLATANTLY FALSE.

I gave you dictionary definition of the word and it clearly fits what happened on Jan 6th.

You can't refute that.

You are pathetic since your definition isn't helping your case and you never post the link to it while I have the GALL to post a LEGAL definition based on US law.

I go with the legal definition any day.

The 11 charged with Seditious conspiracy was 5 months ago when is the trials going to happen?