The Reality of Man Made Global Warming Shows Up In Michigan.

[Unkotare]

Do you want to educate yourself regarding the matter?? If so, do some research to find out whether a rise in ambient CO2 precedes a rise in temperatures.

Logically, if the temperature changes are not preceded by the rise in CO2 levels, then the rise in CO2 levels can be ruled out as the causative factor of those temperature changes.

Been there, done that.

And did you find that the rise in CO2 preceded the rise in temperature? Or did you find that the rise in temperature preceded the rise in CO2 like all of us climatologists.

Wow! Are you full of crap! Each year all the volcanoes on earth release about 200 million tons of CO2 into the environment. The activities of humans are responsible for the release of about 26.8 BILLION tons. Like it or not, CO2 IS leading the way.s

You are dodging the question. The question you responded to has nothing to do with volcanoes. It was regarding whether rises in ambient temperature tend to precede rises of the CO2 levels in the ambient air or vice-versa.The fact that you dodged the question strongly indicates that you either have no clue or that you know that you are being deceptive.

How many ways do I need to say that CO2 leads the way.

Really? Water vapor is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I live in a town with a river running through it. For all my life, it has frozen over in the winter. In fact, one time when I was a kid, there were icebergs that pushed into the shore of Saginaw bay. These pushed up slabs of ice about three feet thick on to the shore. Destroying some shore front homes. This year, for one day, there was ice on the river thick enough for at least one foolhardy ice fisherman to brave ice fishing. The river has been largely ice free ever sense. Being mid January, there should be ice fishermen around on the river. But it is mostly just open water. Anybody who says man made global warming isn't real can blow it out their ass.

You misspelled Foolhardy.

 

[skookerasbil]

I live in a town with a river running through it. For all my life, it has frozen over in the winter. In fact, one time when I was a kid, there were icebergs that pushed into the shore of Saginaw bay. These pushed up slabs of ice about three feet thick on to the shore. Destroying some shore front homes. This year, for one day, there was ice on the river thick enough for at least one foolhardy ice fisherman to brave ice fishing. The river has been largely ice free ever sense. Being mid January, there should be ice fishermen around on the river. But it is mostly just open water. Anybody who says man made global warming isn't real can blow it out their ass.

Well then s0n........your little river not frozen appears to settle the science!!

 

[skookerasbil]

I love when a new SNOWFLAKE hits the environment forum.

 

[Old Rocks]

Been there, done that.

And did you find that the rise in CO2 preceded the rise in temperature? Or did you find that the rise in temperature preceded the rise in CO2 like all of us climatologists.

Wow! Are you full of crap! Each year all the volcanoes on earth release about 200 million tons of CO2 into the environment. The activities of humans are responsible for the release of about 26.8 BILLION tons. Like it or not, CO2 IS leading the way.s

You are dodging the question. The question you responded to has nothing to do with volcanoes. It was regarding whether rises in ambient temperature tend to precede rises of the CO2 levels in the ambient air or vice-versa.The fact that you dodged the question strongly indicates that you either have no clue or that you know that you are being deceptive.

How many ways do I need to say that CO2 leads the way.

Really? Water vapor is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.

And water vapor gets rained out in under 10 days, whereas CO2 is there for many decades. So the effect is that CO2 warms the atmosphere, which warms the oceans, resulting in more evaporation, which results in more warming.

Yes, water vapor is a more potent GHG than CO2, but it is is dependent on the long term warming of CO2. And the feedback effect is already noticeable in the much larger precipitation events we are now seeing.

 

[Old Rocks]

You didn't really just say that...

Look for yourself.

colored pictures that are not linked are not an argument nor science

If you don't believe it, look it up for yourself. Just enter into your browser, "Graphs that show earth's CO2 and temperature levels."

Do you want to educate yourself regarding the matter?? If so, do some research to find out whether a rise in ambient CO2 precedes a rise in temperatures.

Logically, if the temperature changes are not preceded by the rise in CO2 levels, then the rise in CO2 levels can be ruled out as the causative factor of those temperature changes.

Been there, done that.

Coolhardy, the deniers on this board will say anything, tell any lie, to cover their vast ignorance and outright deceit. They are, for the most part, really dumb assholes. However, it is worth keeping posting, with links to real information from real scientists, in order to show the lurkers what the reality is.

 

[Muhammed]

Coolhardy, the deniers on this board will say anything, tell any lie, to cover their vast ignorance and outright deceit. They are, for the most part, really dumb assholes.

Old Rocks

Don't you climategate deniers ever get tired of talking about yourself?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Look for yourself.

colored pictures that are not linked are not an argument nor science

If you don't believe it, look it up for yourself. Just enter into your browser, "Graphs that show earth's CO2 and temperature levels."

Do you want to educate yourself regarding the matter?? If so, do some research to find out whether a rise in ambient CO2 precedes a rise in temperatures.

Logically, if the temperature changes are not preceded by the rise in CO2 levels, then the rise in CO2 levels can be ruled out as the causative factor of those temperature changes.

Been there, done that.

Coolhardy, the deniers on this board will say anything, tell any lie, to cover their vast ignorance and outright deceit. They are, for the most part, really dumb assholes. However, it is worth keeping posting, with links to real information from real scientists, in order to show the lurkers what the reality is.

I see your projection problems and crap links are still a problem..

 

[westwall]

And did you find that the rise in CO2 preceded the rise in temperature? Or did you find that the rise in temperature preceded the rise in CO2 like all of us climatologists.

Wow! Are you full of crap! Each year all the volcanoes on earth release about 200 million tons of CO2 into the environment. The activities of humans are responsible for the release of about 26.8 BILLION tons. Like it or not, CO2 IS leading the way.s

You are dodging the question. The question you responded to has nothing to do with volcanoes. It was regarding whether rises in ambient temperature tend to precede rises of the CO2 levels in the ambient air or vice-versa.The fact that you dodged the question strongly indicates that you either have no clue or that you know that you are being deceptive.

How many ways do I need to say that CO2 leads the way.

Really? Water vapor is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.

And water vapor gets rained out in under 10 days, whereas CO2 is there for many decades. So the effect is that CO2 warms the atmosphere, which warms the oceans, resulting in more evaporation, which results in more warming.

Yes, water vapor is a more potent GHG than CO2, but it is is dependent on the long term warming of CO2. And the feedback effect is already noticeable in the much larger precipitation events we are now seeing.

Bull poo. RT for CO2 ACCORDING to the overwhelming majority of peer reviewed studies is under 10 years. It is ONLY the ipcc who claims otherwise.

 

[keepitreal]

From noaa-
What's the hottest Earth's ever been? | NOAA Climate.gov

Our planet probably experienced its hottest temperatures in its earliest days, when it was still colliding with other rocky debris (planetesimals) careening around the solar system. The heat of these collisions would have kept Earth molten, with top-of-the-atmosphere temperatures upward of 3,600° Fahrenheit.

Even after those first scorching millennia, however, the planet has sometimes been much warmer than it is now. One of the warmest times was during the geologic period known as the Neoproterozoic, between 600 and 800 million years ago. Another “warm age” is a period geologists call the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, which occurred about 56 million years ago.

You didn't really just say that...

Man makes the climate change. Interesting.
How did our 200K year old species do it 3 billion years ago?

Man made global warming started to show up at the beginning of the industrial revolution. Coincidence?

Look for yourself.

You are talking about nonsense. What is happening now is much more important than what happened a billion years ago.

You are talking about nonsense. What is happening now is much more important than what happened a billion years ago.

If your brain were made of chocolate
it wouldn't fill a M & M!

 

[coolhardy]

How many ways do I need to say that CO2 leads the way.

Are you trying to become the King of Dumb Questions?

Okay, I will answer, the answer is ONE, you only need to say it once, as scientific fact. So go ahead, now is your chance.

It is scientific FACT that CO2 in the atmosphere increases global warming. If you are trying to tell me that the earth somehow is warming when it is supposed to be heading toward another ice age and that causes CO2 to increase, you are barking up the wrong tree. Also, feel like going for a COLD swim? Come to my home town and try to go ice fishing. It is a scientific fact that you will get wet.

 

[westwall]

How many ways do I need to say that CO2 leads the way.

Are you trying to become the King of Dumb Questions?

Okay, I will answer, the answer is ONE, you only need to say it once, as scientific fact. So go ahead, now is your chance.

It is scientific FACT that CO2 in the atmosphere increases global warming. If you are trying to tell me that the earth somehow is warming when it is supposed to be heading toward another ice age and that causes CO2 to increase, you are barking up the wrong tree. Also, feel like going for a COLD swim? Come to my home town and try to go ice fishing. It is a scientific fact that you will get wet.

Nope. It's a scientific theory. One that has no laboratory, nor empirical data to support. It is a theory wholly based on computer models and falsified data with a healthy dose of correlation tossed in for good measure.

 

[elektra]

It is scientific FACT that CO2 in the atmosphere increases global warming. If you are trying to tell me that the earth somehow is warming when it is supposed to be heading toward another ice age and that causes CO2 to increase, you are barking up the wrong tree. Also, feel like going for a COLD swim? Come to my home town and try to go ice fishing. It is a scientific fact that you will get wet.

It is Scientific Fact that I use CO2 to keep my beer cold during the hottest days that I go fishing. I kid you not, CO2 keeps my beer cold. Can you argue that scientific fact. You are about as smart as Old Crock, Crick, and Mattpew. Great company you keep there.

 

[coolhardy]

Been there, done that.

And did you find that the rise in CO2 preceded the rise in temperature? Or did you find that the rise in temperature preceded the rise in CO2 like all of us climatologists.

Wow! Are you full of crap! Each year all the volcanoes on earth release about 200 million tons of CO2 into the environment. The activities of humans are responsible for the release of about 26.8 BILLION tons. Like it or not, CO2 IS leading the way.

You are dodging the question. The question you responded to has nothing to do with volcanoes. It was regarding whether rises in ambient temperature tend to precede rises of the CO2 levels in the ambient air or vice-versa.The fact that you dodged the question strongly indicates that you either have no clue or that you know that you are being deceptive.

How many ways do I need to say that CO2 leads the way.

welllllll, you'd have to actually show that it does when EVERY single study has shown that CO2 lags temperature by hundreds of years. So you've already been shot down.

Do you get paid to be a denier fool, or is helping to destroy just fulfill a doomsday cult fetish. You people are like a water balloon. One part gets squeezed and you just puff out someplace else. As I was telling someone else, each year all the volcanoes on earth release 200 million tons of CO2. Each year human activity is responsible for the release of 26.8 BILLION tons! Only a delusional-evil fool would say that an independent rise in global warming is responsible for that. I will show you part of something I copied from a website. It is about real climate scientists talking about real science. You can read the rest by going to a website called, "The lag between temperature and CO2." Read it and weep sucka.

 

[westwall]

And did you find that the rise in CO2 preceded the rise in temperature? Or did you find that the rise in temperature preceded the rise in CO2 like all of us climatologists.

Wow! Are you full of crap! Each year all the volcanoes on earth release about 200 million tons of CO2 into the environment. The activities of humans are responsible for the release of about 26.8 BILLION tons. Like it or not, CO2 IS leading the way.

You are dodging the question. The question you responded to has nothing to do with volcanoes. It was regarding whether rises in ambient temperature tend to precede rises of the CO2 levels in the ambient air or vice-versa.The fact that you dodged the question strongly indicates that you either have no clue or that you know that you are being deceptive.

How many ways do I need to say that CO2 leads the way.

welllllll, you'd have to actually show that it does when EVERY single study has shown that CO2 lags temperature by hundreds of years. So you've already been shot down.

Do you get paid to be a denier fool, or is helping to destroy just fulfill a doomsday cult fetish. You people are like a water balloon. One part gets squeezed and you just puff out someplace else. As I was telling someone else, each year all the volcanoes on earth release 200 million tons of CO2. Each year human activity is responsible for the release of 26.8 BILLION tons! Only a delusional-evil fool would say that an independent rise in global warming is responsible for that. I will show you part of something I copied from a website. It is about real climate scientists talking about real science. You can read the rest by going to a website called, "The lag between temperature and CO2." Read it and weep sucka.

That's cute. You post an OPINION piece that has no corroboration. And you think that is meaningful? Get a clue son, you're dealing with the real world and real scientists here.

 

[elektra]

only a fool posts without linking, it used to be a rule here, it should still be, how about a link or you so inept, you do not know how to find information with links

 

[elektra]

Only a newbee to the boards would think the lag has not been addressed and debunked a hundred times before.

 

[coolhardy]

I live in a town with a river running through it. For all my life, it has frozen over in the winter. In fact, one time when I was a kid, there were icebergs that pushed into the shore of Saginaw bay. These pushed up slabs of ice about three feet thick on to the shore. Destroying some shore front homes. This year, for one day, there was ice on the river thick enough for at least one foolhardy ice fisherman to brave ice fishing. The river has been largely ice free ever sense. Being mid January, there should be ice fishermen around on the river. But it is mostly just open water. Anybody who says man made global warming isn't real can blow it out their ass.

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[coolhardy]

Man makes the climate change. Interesting.
How did our 200K year old species do it 3 billion years ago?

Man made global warming started to show up at the beginning of the industrial revolution. Coincidence?

We were exiting the Little Ice Age at the start of the industrial revolution.. SO your claiming that all of the warming is man made when it is easily shown to be natural variation?

The only "coincidence" is the fact we have just left an active solar phase (which created the increased heat) and our warming is coming to an end..

What little ice age are you talking about. There have been at least a few in historical times. And for those that did happen, could something like the eruption of Krakatoa have anything to do with it?

 

[coolhardy]

Wow! Are you full of crap! Each year all the volcanoes on earth release about 200 million tons of CO2 into the environment. The activities of humans are responsible for the release of about 26.8 BILLION tons. Like it or not, CO2 IS leading the way.s

You are dodging the question. The question you responded to has nothing to do with volcanoes. It was regarding whether rises in ambient temperature tend to precede rises of the CO2 levels in the ambient air or vice-versa.The fact that you dodged the question strongly indicates that you either have no clue or that you know that you are being deceptive.

How many ways do I need to say that CO2 leads the way.

Really? Water vapor is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO2.

And water vapor gets rained out in under 10 days, whereas CO2 is there for many decades. So the effect is that CO2 warms the atmosphere, which warms the oceans, resulting in more evaporation, which results in more warming.

Yes, water vapor is a more potent GHG than CO2, but it is is dependent on the long term warming of CO2. And the feedback effect is already noticeable in the much larger precipitation events we are now seeing.

Bull poo. RT for CO2 ACCORDING to the overwhelming majority of peer reviewed studies is under 10 years. It is ONLY the ipcc who claims otherwise.