The Republic Has Imploded

[Hutch Starskey]

Many people see the choice of Donald Trump as the Republican nominee as a disaster for the Republican Party. Maybe. That out of the chaos of 17 Republican candidates we get Trump because of a disconnect between the Republican base & the money-men is one thing.

But, for the entire Democratic political & cultural establishment to get together & choose Hillary as their only possible standard-bearer is a rot of an entirely more profound order. The fact that within the Democratic Party the only faction that resisted Hillary’s spell was the space-cadet Left under Bernie Sanders just makes the total picture all the more horrifying.

Trump and Hillary are the symptoms, but not the disease.

Better get to your bunker.

 

[Katzndogz]

I hate to say it or even THINK it, Flacal..but I think the sweet meteor of death will be americans having had enough of the bullshit. Civil war. Which makes us weak and open to attack by enemies. But I think that is a very good possibility of happening.

It will get ugly. And dangerous. I don't think America realizes the depths of the crisis yet. That's why we need a mediation team to come in and put these 2 parties in time-out.

Johnson/Weld 2016 --- We're not dying, aren't endorsed by the KKK and we can't suck as badly as the other 2 choices.
I'll take that..

The solution is for everyone to just chill and get high?

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Many people see the choice of Donald Trump as the Republican nominee as a disaster for the Republican Party. Maybe. That out of the chaos of 17 Republican candidates we get Trump because of a disconnect between the Republican base & the money-men is one thing.

But, for the entire Democratic political & cultural establishment to get together & choose Hillary as their only possible standard-bearer is a rot of an entirely more profound order. The fact that within the Democratic Party the only faction that resisted Hillary’s spell was the space-cadet Left under Bernie Sanders just makes the total picture all the more horrifying.

Trump and Hillary are the symptoms, but not the disease.

I won't disagree. But these things happen in cycles. You have to hit a low point before you can start to put things back together. Too few people vote, way to few take their votes seriously.

I view either Hillary or Trump as a low point if elected. I'm reluctantly planning to vote for Hillary as I see that as a higher floor to hit so the bounce won't be quite as bad. The Democrats will be a mess in 2020 but the GOP will reform and kick out the #AltRight after such a loss.

Trump will be a spectacular crash if elected. Open defiance by his own party and the #AltRight folks ushered out of the basements and Twitter and into the mainstream.

Either way, the country will rebound.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Many people see the choice of Donald Trump as the Republican nominee as a disaster for the Republican Party. Maybe. That out of the chaos of 17 Republican candidates we get Trump because of a disconnect between the Republican base & the money-men is one thing.

But, for the entire Democratic political & cultural establishment to get together & choose Hillary as their only possible standard-bearer is a rot of an entirely more profound order. The fact that within the Democratic Party the only faction that resisted Hillary’s spell was the space-cadet Left under Bernie Sanders just makes the total picture all the more horrifying.

Trump and Hillary are the symptoms, but not the disease.

I won't disagree. But these things happen in cycles. You have to hit a low point before you can start to put things back together. Too few people vote, way to few take their votes seriously.

I view either Hillary or Trump as a low point if elected. I'm reluctantly planning to vote for Hillary as I see that as a higher floor to hit so the bounce won't be quite as bad. The Democrats will be a mess in 2020 but the GOP will reform and kick out the #AltRight after such a loss.

Trump will be a spectacular crash if elected. Open defiance by his own party and the #AltRight folks ushered out of the basements and Twitter and into the mainstream.

Either way, the country will rebound.

In the late 19th century America was in shambles but rebuilt. But the difference is back then everyone was better educated and had a loyalty to either their nation or the State they resided in. Today most everyone under 50 is unaware of even the most basic civics topics and believes a quasi Euro socialism/communism utopia is what America should be Fundamentaly transformed into.

 

[hazlnut]

Many people see the choice of Donald Trump as the Republican nominee as a disaster for the Republican Party. Maybe. That out of the chaos of 17 Republican candidates we get Trump because of a disconnect between the Republican base & the money-men is one thing.

But, for the entire Democratic political & cultural establishment to get together & choose Hillary as their only possible standard-bearer is a rot of an entirely more profound order. The fact that within the Democratic Party the only faction that resisted Hillary’s spell was the space-cadet Left under Bernie Sanders just makes the total picture all the more horrifying.

Trump and Hillary are the symptoms, but not the disease.

Dems punted.

GOP raised a demon with Oujia board.

 

[hazlnut]

Socialism has destroyed the republic… Fact

Facts are things that are provable with evidence.

You're welcome.

 

[Votto]

Socialism has destroyed the republic… Fact

The destruction of the Republic was the only way to get people to embrace socialism

 

[Votto]

I hate to say it or even THINK it, Flacal..but I think the sweet meteor of death will be americans having had enough of the bullshit. Civil war. Which makes us weak and open to attack by enemies. But I think that is a very good possibility of happening.

It will get ugly. And dangerous. I don't think America realizes the depths of the crisis yet. That's why we need a mediation team to come in and put these 2 parties in time-out.

Johnson/Weld 2016 --- We're not dying, aren't endorsed by the KKK and we can't suck as badly as the other 2 choices.
I'll take that..

But..Johnson seems kinda dumb. He didn't even know what Aleppo was. And he is for open borders. In short...to me, he seems like a really dumb hillary.

To win, a Libertarian candidate had to be an attack dog like Trump, only one that is smarter.

Gary seems like he is just going through the motions and even admitted, of all things, he needs to get smarter.

Do you see Trump or Hilary admitting any short comings, even though those short comings are painfully obvious?

Hell no. People love that.

 

[Ozone]

Many people see the choice of Donald Trump as the Republican nominee as a disaster for the Republican Party. Maybe. That out of the chaos of 17 Republican candidates we get Trump because of a disconnect between the Republican base & the money-men is one thing.

But, for the entire Democratic political & cultural establishment to get together & choose Hillary as their only possible standard-bearer is a rot of an entirely more profound order. The fact that within the Democratic Party the only faction that resisted Hillary’s spell was the space-cadet Left under Bernie Sanders just makes the total picture all the more horrifying.

Trump and Hillary are the symptoms, but not the disease.

you should have respected the ohio country, but you didn't. instead you turned it into your fly-over battleground state. and so, there are consequences.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I hate to say it or even THINK it, Flacal..but I think the sweet meteor of death will be americans having had enough of the bullshit. Civil war. Which makes us weak and open to attack by enemies. But I think that is a very good possibility of happening.

It will get ugly. And dangerous. I don't think America realizes the depths of the crisis yet. That's why we need a mediation team to come in and put these 2 parties in time-out.

Johnson/Weld 2016 --- We're not dying, aren't endorsed by the KKK and we can't suck as badly as the other 2 choices.
I'll take that..

But..Johnson seems kinda dumb. He didn't even know what Aleppo was. And he is for open borders. In short...to me, he seems like a really dumb hillary.

To win, a Libertarian candidate had to be an attack dog like Trump, only one that is smarter.

Gary seems like he is just going through the motions and even admitted, of all things, he needs to get smarter.

Do you see Trump or Hilary admitting any short comings, even though those short comings are painfully obvious?

Hell no. People love that.

I'm not aware of any topic where Hillary and Johnson have significant differences. So he is as irrelivent too.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Many people see the choice of Donald Trump as the Republican nominee as a disaster for the Republican Party. Maybe. That out of the chaos of 17 Republican candidates we get Trump because of a disconnect between the Republican base & the money-men is one thing.

But, for the entire Democratic political & cultural establishment to get together & choose Hillary as their only possible standard-bearer is a rot of an entirely more profound order. The fact that within the Democratic Party the only faction that resisted Hillary’s spell was the space-cadet Left under Bernie Sanders just makes the total picture all the more horrifying.

Trump and Hillary are the symptoms, but not the disease.

you should have respected the ohio country, but you didn't. instead you turned it into your fly-over battleground state. and so, there are consequences.

Did you bother reading the OP or are you on some kind of agenda here?

 

[Ozone]

Many people see the choice of Donald Trump as the Republican nominee as a disaster for the Republican Party. Maybe. That out of the chaos of 17 Republican candidates we get Trump because of a disconnect between the Republican base & the money-men is one thing.

But, for the entire Democratic political & cultural establishment to get together & choose Hillary as their only possible standard-bearer is a rot of an entirely more profound order. The fact that within the Democratic Party the only faction that resisted Hillary’s spell was the space-cadet Left under Bernie Sanders just makes the total picture all the more horrifying.

Trump and Hillary are the symptoms, but not the disease.

you should have respected the ohio country, but you didn't. instead you turned it into your fly-over battleground state. and so, there are consequences.

Did you bother reading the OP or are you on some kind of agenda here?

hey now, it's not my fault you're a deplorable bigot, okay? you said there are 17 stars on the flag in cleveland, and one of them is trump, then you said of all the stripes the worst is hillary. so pardon me if i politely suggest to you that you're about to get kicked in the nuts for this nonsense.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I hate to say it or even THINK it, Flacal..but I think the sweet meteor of death will be americans having had enough of the bullshit. Civil war. Which makes us weak and open to attack by enemies. But I think that is a very good possibility of happening.

It will get ugly. And dangerous. I don't think America realizes the depths of the crisis yet. That's why we need a mediation team to come in and put these 2 parties in time-out.

Johnson/Weld 2016 --- We're not dying, aren't endorsed by the KKK and we can't suck as badly as the other 2 choices.
I'll take that..

Those two DINGBATS don't even know where the fuck Syria is and what provinces were gassed not to mention they're OPEN BORDER SHILLS.. Yea, let's just let our borders be overrun..

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Attention.. attention.. Another NeverTrumper whinefest... Make sure you merge this with all of the others..

 

[Weatherman2020]

Attention.. attention.. Another NeverTrumper whinefest... Make sure you merge this with all of the others..

Clueless Maximus.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Many people see the choice of Donald Trump as the Republican nominee as a disaster for the Republican Party. Maybe. That out of the chaos of 17 Republican candidates we get Trump because of a disconnect between the Republican base & the money-men is one thing.

But, for the entire Democratic political & cultural establishment to get together & choose Hillary as their only possible standard-bearer is a rot of an entirely more profound order. The fact that within the Democratic Party the only faction that resisted Hillary’s spell was the space-cadet Left under Bernie Sanders just makes the total picture all the more horrifying.

Trump and Hillary are the symptoms, but not the disease.

I won't disagree. But these things happen in cycles. You have to hit a low point before you can start to put things back together. Too few people vote, way to few take their votes seriously.

I view either Hillary or Trump as a low point if elected. I'm reluctantly planning to vote for Hillary as I see that as a higher floor to hit so the bounce won't be quite as bad. The Democrats will be a mess in 2020 but the GOP will reform and kick out the #AltRight after such a loss.

Trump will be a spectacular crash if elected. Open defiance by his own party and the #AltRight folks ushered out of the basements and Twitter and into the mainstream.

Either way, the country will rebound.

In the late 19th century America was in shambles but rebuilt. But the difference is back then everyone was better educated and had a loyalty to either their nation or the State they resided in. Today most everyone under 50 is unaware of even the most basic civics topics and believes a quasi Euro socialism/communism utopia is what America should be Fundamentaly transformed into.

This is a transformative moment in US history. I've lived long enough to see quite a few elections and not one of them outright scared me. But this one does. On one hand you have a member of a political dynasty that feels they are "owed" a victory. On the other you have a strawman reality star being backed by modern Nazis. In the 19th century at least the Constitutional framework survived. In the Great Depression at least the Constitutional framework survived. I see this election as a true stress test for the system. There's an outright chance not even the framework survives either result. I have legitimate concerns that the #AltRight represents a movement willing to burn the whole thing down win or lose.

 

[Norman]

If Hillary wins, the banana-republic will merely emerge.

 

[P@triot]

The solution is to drive the entire Republican Party out of existence. Most of them are true liberals - which creates a significant problem for them. They don't want to become Dumbocrats (which has been hijacked by hard core socialists, communists, marxists, fascists, etc.) but they don't want to act like conservatives. We need to drive them over to the left where they belong and either force them to join the Dumbocrats are form their own new liberal party.

Then we need to consolidate the Constitution Party, the Tea Party, and the Libertarian Party. I think it only makes sense to brand it with the Constitution Party as that is what true conservatism stands for. We also need to ensure that the new party held the core values of conservatism as well as only accepted candidates of real character and integrity.

If we did these simple things, the U.S. would always have a viable candidate and we'd win most (if not all) elections.

 

[Trump.Stamped]

I hate to say it or even THINK it, Flacal..but I think the sweet meteor of death will be americans having had enough of the bullshit. Civil war. Which makes us weak and open to attack by enemies. But I think that is a very good possibility of happening.

It will get ugly. And dangerous. I don't think America realizes the depths of the crisis yet. That's why we need a mediation team to come in and put these 2 parties in time-out.

Johnson/Weld 2016 --- We're not dying, aren't endorsed by the KKK and we can't suck as badly as the other 2 choices.
I'll take that..

As long as Americans have a smart phone and Netflix, they DON'T CARE.

 

[P@triot]

In the 19th century at least the Constitutional framework survived. In the Great Depression at least the Constitutional framework survived.

You might want to check your history. FDR obliterated the U.S. Constitution during the Great Depression. He and the Dumbocrats engaged in a host of egregious actions that were far outside the legal responsibility of the federal government.

I see this election as a true stress test for the system. There's an outright chance not even the framework survives either result. I have legitimate concerns that the #AltRight represents a movement willing to burn the whole thing down win or lose.

Your partially right. This is a serious stress-test for our framework of government. But the entire thing was burned down years ago by progressives. All that left is some simmering ashes. The question is whether those ashes will be stomped out now or if we'll be able to use them to build a fire that we can use to rebuild the United States.

The bottom line is that progressivism is a cancer that is killing America and we desperately need to find a cure for it soon.