The Trump Message vs The Biden Message

[Toro]

Yeah, this is the guy who said our country was burning in his inauguration speech. Mr. Sunny indeed.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

 

[occupied]

Some people want to be bullshitted and some people want the horrible truth.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yeah, this is the guy who said our country was burning in his inauguration speech. Mr. Sunny indeed.

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You forget how leftists said the SAME THING about Reagan voters back then.

He was my first vote for president.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Trump's message: the US economy will get back to full employment, but needs fairness in trade deals.
Biden's message: we need to get back to globalism, the green new deal, higher taxes, moving jobs back to China, and more unfair trade deals so Hunter can pocket a few more $million.

Let's see, how'd that work out? We're a couple years into Trump's trade wars. Fail. Why don't we just stop touting his genius on trade deals, huh? If you don't believe me, read what these people had to say.

More pain than gain: How the US-China trade war hurt America | Brookings

The ultimate results of the phase one trade deal between China and the United States — and the trade war that preceded it — have significantly hurt the American economy without solving the underlying economic concerns that the trade war was meant to resolve, write Ryan Hass and Abraham Denmark.

www.brookings.edu

The US moved about 12,000 US factories to China over the last two or three decades, and Trump is supposed to fix the China problem in a year or two?? Get real. At least Trump is taking China on and protecting US interests.
Tell me you're a globalist who likes China's policies and goals at the expense of US interests? The Bidens will sell us out and pocket the Chinese cash.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

OK, so are you admitting here that the problem with outsourcing is both parties fault? Are you also admitting that Trump is just as heavily into China?...because he is. Where do you think a lot of his stuff is manufactured? You gonna call him out for that? Probably not. Because he was never going to fix it.

 

[rightwinger]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Trump is downright cheerful when it comes to COVID

It is no worse than the flu, it will be over by Easter, no the summer, no by Election Day, he has a cure, vaccines will be ready by the summer, he has everything under control.

Trump got the vaccine developed, tested, and manufactured in less than a year. That is a medical miracle.
Trump tried to keep the US economy from tanking as the democrats kept trying to shut it down.
We'll see how Joe Biden does if/when he gets a crisis to manage.

p.s. It was China that unleashed the COVID pandemic, not Trump. Watch the Bidens cash-in on China <again>.

Trump lied to us and told us he had COVID under control.....he didn’t.

He undermined attempts to get people to take protective measures and mocked people who did.

We have 4 percent of the worlds population and 20 percent of the cases

 

[kyzr]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

 

[kyzr]

Trump's message: the US economy will get back to full employment, but needs fairness in trade deals.
Biden's message: we need to get back to globalism, the green new deal, higher taxes, moving jobs back to China, and more unfair trade deals so Hunter can pocket a few more $million.

Let's see, how'd that work out? We're a couple years into Trump's trade wars. Fail. Why don't we just stop touting his genius on trade deals, huh? If you don't believe me, read what these people had to say.

More pain than gain: How the US-China trade war hurt America | Brookings

The ultimate results of the phase one trade deal between China and the United States — and the trade war that preceded it — have significantly hurt the American economy without solving the underlying economic concerns that the trade war was meant to resolve, write Ryan Hass and Abraham Denmark.

www.brookings.edu

The US moved about 12,000 US factories to China over the last two or three decades, and Trump is supposed to fix the China problem in a year or two?? Get real. At least Trump is taking China on and protecting US interests.
Tell me you're a globalist who likes China's policies and goals at the expense of US interests? The Bidens will sell us out and pocket the Chinese cash.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

OK, so are you admitting here that the problem with outsourcing is both parties fault? Are you also admitting that Trump is just as heavily into China?...because he is. Where do you think a lot of his stuff is manufactured? You gonna call him out for that? Probably not. Because he was never going to fix it.

1. Agree that outsourcing to China is both parties' fault, the "establishment" wings. Trump upset the GOP apple-cart with his "populist" America First message. Trying to roll-back China's unfair practices. Watch Biden suck-up to China and pocket cash.
2. Trump had his ties made in China, and Ivanka had her dresses made there. I don't think they still have those small businesses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/07/24/ivanka-trump-shuts-down-her-namesake-clothing-brand/

3. The point isn't making ties in China, the issue is Chinese stealing intellectual property and their global ambitions. What will Biden do to oppose China's global ambitions?

 

[kyzr]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

OMG, its not a sprint, its a marathon. There were 20m doses distributed to states by the end of 2020, as promised. It is a medical miracle, like it or not. The injections are just starting, stay tuned as the shots get to the wider public, whoever wants one will be able to get one.

MSN

Scientists worry as more Americans say they’ll refuse COVID-19 vaccine

Why a growing number of Americans say they’ll refuse to take a COVID vaccine — and scientists are worried.

nypost.com

 

[Whodatsaywhodat.]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Trump is downright cheerful when it comes to COVID

It is no worse than the flu, it will be over by Easter, no the summer, no by Election Day, he has a cure, vaccines will be ready by the summer, he has everything under control.

Trump got the vaccine developed, tested, and manufactured in less than a year. That is a medical miracle.
Trump tried to keep the US economy from tanking as the democrats kept trying to shut it down.
We'll see how Joe Biden does if/when he gets a crisis to manage.

p.s. It was China that unleashed the COVID pandemic, not Trump. Watch the Bidens cash-in on China <again>.

He had nothing to do with the development. And it looks like he blew having the proper distribution plans in place as well too. No shock here. Even after Warp Speed was clumsily put together a full five months after he got home from Davos and declared it was only one person coming home from China and we had it under control.

Again, Biden has shown more leadership and planning for tackling this virus in two months than Trump's administration has over the last eleven. I welcome the return of competence and look forward to Biden purging every last person that Trump and his minions brought into government.

Bla , Bla , Bla .

 

[jknowgood]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

If hillary was president, the vaccine would still be an idea. Trump got the ball rolling and got rid of regulations that would slow down the vaccine being produced.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

If hillary was president, the vaccine would still be an idea. Trump got the ball rolling and got rid of regulations that would slow down the vaccine being produced.

If Hillary was President the vaccine would have still been developed. However, her response to the virus would have been swift, decisive, and competent. We wouldn't be in nearly the dire position we are right now. Mostly because in Jan-March she wouldn't be tweeting, golfing, or holding pep rallies. She's a career politician. She knows how government works and is supposed to work. I will even stipulate that we'd be in a better position with Cruz, Rubio, or Bush in WH as well.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

If hillary was president, the vaccine would still be an idea. Trump got the ball rolling and got rid of regulations that would slow down the vaccine being produced.

Biden will take credit for the vaccine and his sheep will buy that. Biden spent his whole career stealing ideas and words, and now elections.

ZERO RESPECT for the thief

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

OMG, its not a sprint, its a marathon. There were 20m doses distributed to states by the end of 2020, as promised. It is a medical miracle, like it or not. The injections are just starting, stay tuned as the shots get to the wider public, whoever wants one will be able to get one.

MSN

Scientists worry as more Americans say they’ll refuse COVID-19 vaccine

Why a growing number of Americans say they’ll refuse to take a COVID vaccine — and scientists are worried.

nypost.com

Promises were made by the Warp Speed team. You can't move the goal posts here. The failure to get the number of vaccines out and then the double failure of having the infrastructure in place to distribute them and having them get into people's arms in a timely fashion is a result of poor planning. You can't give Trump the credit for being the savior by developing the vaccine (which he didn't) and not give him the blame for the distro issues. If you can't, you're just a homer.

 

[jknowgood]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

If hillary was president, the vaccine would still be an idea. Trump got the ball rolling and got rid of regulations that would slow down the vaccine being produced.

If Hillary was President the vaccine would have still been developed. However, her response to the virus would have been swift, decisive, and competent. We wouldn't be in nearly the dire position we are right now. Mostly because in Jan-March she wouldn't be tweeting, golfing, or holding pep rallies. She's a career politician. She knows how government works and is supposed to work. I will even stipulate that we'd be in a better position with Cruz, Rubio, or Bush in WH as well.

Lol, so you are saying hillary would've got rid of regulations? You’re an idiot, anyway if Hillary was president we wouldn't be talking about corona. The deaths would be hidden just like H1N1 was stopped under obama. By quitting the counting of the deaths.

 

[jknowgood]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

If hillary was president, the vaccine would still be an idea. Trump got the ball rolling and got rid of regulations that would slow down the vaccine being produced.

Biden will take credit for the vaccine and his sheep will buy that. Biden spent his whole career stealing ideas and words, and now elections.

ZERO RESPECT for the thief

 

[kyzr]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

OMG, its not a sprint, its a marathon. There were 20m doses distributed to states by the end of 2020, as promised. It is a medical miracle, like it or not. The injections are just starting, stay tuned as the shots get to the wider public, whoever wants one will be able to get one.

MSN

Scientists worry as more Americans say they’ll refuse COVID-19 vaccine

Why a growing number of Americans say they’ll refuse to take a COVID vaccine — and scientists are worried.

nypost.com

Promises were made by the Warp Speed team. You can't move the goal posts here. The failure to get the number of vaccines out and then the double failure of having the infrastructure in place to distribute them and having them get into people's arms in a timely fashion is a result of poor planning. You can't give Trump the credit for being the savior by developing the vaccine (which he didn't) and not give him the blame for the distro issues. If you can't, you're just a homer.

There is a difference between a "promise" and an "estimate". The CDC estimated that 20m doses of the vaccine could be distributed to the states by the end of 2020, it looks like they actually distributed 12.4m doses by the end of 2020. Its still a medical miracle to develop, test 3-phases, gain FDA approval, manufacture, and distribute 12.4m doses in 8-months, with hundreds of millions of doses to follow. That is a major success, period.
COVID-19 Cases, Deaths, and Trends in the US | CDC COVID Data Tracker

The goal posts were not moved, the weather and holidays slowed the initial delivery schedule slightly, no big deal. Besides, the delivery of doses isn't the main problem, its getting more shots in arms of a limited population. As the doses are made widely available to the public, the number of doses will accelerate. There is no "blame" it takes what it takes, the vaccine should get to herd immunity by late spring, so says Dr. Fauci:

Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April

Fauci said once the vaccine becomes widely available, if by "April, May, June, July, we get as many people vaccinated as possible, we could really turn this thing around" by the end of 2021.

health.wusf.usf.edu

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Gloomy Joe told us "Our Darkest Days are Ahead" once he's in office.

I prefer the presidents outlook (and look back)

Why do you think we are in the "dark days" (and getting darker)? Because Trump's outlook isn't positive. It ignores reality. He's incompetent. He blew the response to the virus and now after having months to prepare for distributing the vaccine that he stood up and tried to take credit for, we find out he fails miserably...again. Biden is being realistic. Looking at a 9/11 or greater every day for the past month, one wonders why Trump hasn't been removed. Because this situation is exactly why we have the 25th amendment.

12:00PM EST on 1/20/2021, he's gone. Good riddance to bad garbage.

WTF are you talking about?
1. Operation Warp Speed developed several vaccines in record time while keeping the US economy from tanking. That is a very positive outlook, on the COVID response, and the economy.
2. The vaccine is a success, not a failure. The vaccine is available, the states need to get the shots in arms faster.
3. Biden is a senile joke who never managed anything, he's just a figurehead who reads teleprompters.
4. Nancy will 25th Biden's ass shortly.

1) Keep drinking this Kool-Aid. There were several companies that already had vaccines in the pipe before the lightbulb went on for Warp Speed (which was just an attempt by Trump to salvage his re-election).
2) The vaccine is a success. However, it was the Trump administration's responsibility to make sure that the distribution plans included getting those shots into peoples arms. Again, you're missing the point that its the feds responsibility to provide leadership, planning, monetary assistance, and guidance to the states in coordinating their response to the virus. That..didn't..happen.
3) Just stop. Two in person debates put that to bed. Pull your head out of alt-right media. Stuff rots your brain.
4) Do any of you right wingers know how the Constitution handles the 25th amendment? What's the fixation with Pelosi? She doesn't get to make that determination.

1. You are the one drinking KoolAde. COVID-19 is a "novel virus" (that means new to humans), google it. So your partisan TDS bullshit is a lie. The Warp Speed vaccine development, testing, and production in less than a year is a medical miracle.
2. The vaccines are being distributed successfully. What's disturbing is that so many are refusing to take the vaccine?! Part of the problem is apparently a lack of manpower to give shots. Schools are closed, so many nurses stay home, and the hospitals and nursing homes are short-staffed. The shots will get in arms, but it will take time to resolve the manpower shortage. IMHO when the vaccines get to CVS and Walgreens et.al. the numbers will improve. The goal was to have everyone who wants a vaccine shot to have one by summer, this vaccine is more like the annual flu shot, not a one-time shot. So the shots will be an annual event, there is no finish-line.

More Than 12.7 Billion Shots Given: Covid-19 Tracker

Bloomberg counted up the shots administered in 184 countries and 59 US states and territories

www.bloomberg.com

US: 20M Could Be Vaccinated This Year, 100M by Late February

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) expects to move quickly after a Dec. 10 review of the coronavirus vaccine developed by Pfizer and 20 million Americans could be vaccinated this year, its commissioner said on Friday. FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn declined to give a...

www.newsmax.com

Tasty Kool-Aid huh? Why did you bother linking the whole alt-right article on 20M being vaccinated by the end of 2020? We already know that didn't happen. It was closer to 2M. And the numbers for the rest are in jeopardy because it looks like Trump's admin fucked up the distribution plans in addition to the response. No one that I've seen is refusing to take it...the number of vaccines being shipped isn't what they said it would be and the distro plans made no allocation for extra money and extra manpower for the states so that they could get the shots into people's arms. Healthcare systems..overloaded. No leadership from Trump team. Starting to see a pattern?

OMG, its not a sprint, its a marathon. There were 20m doses distributed to states by the end of 2020, as promised. It is a medical miracle, like it or not. The injections are just starting, stay tuned as the shots get to the wider public, whoever wants one will be able to get one.

MSN

Scientists worry as more Americans say they’ll refuse COVID-19 vaccine

Why a growing number of Americans say they’ll refuse to take a COVID vaccine — and scientists are worried.

nypost.com

Promises were made by the Warp Speed team. You can't move the goal posts here. The failure to get the number of vaccines out and then the double failure of having the infrastructure in place to distribute them and having them get into people's arms in a timely fashion is a result of poor planning. You can't give Trump the credit for being the savior by developing the vaccine (which he didn't) and not give him the blame for the distro issues. If you can't, you're just a homer.

There is a difference between a "promise" and an "estimate". The CDC estimated that 20m doses of the vaccine could be distributed to the states by the end of 2020, it looks like they actually distributed 12.4m doses by the end of 2020. Its still a medical miracle to develop, test 3-phases, gain FDA approval, manufacture, and distribute 12.4m doses in 8-months, with hundreds of millions of doses to follow. That is a major success, period.
COVID-19 Cases, Deaths, and Trends in the US | CDC COVID Data Tracker

The goal posts were not moved, the weather and holidays slowed the initial delivery schedule slightly, no big deal. Besides, the delivery of doses isn't the main problem, its getting more shots in arms of a limited population. As the doses are made widely available to the public, the number of doses will accelerate. There is no "blame" it takes what it takes, the vaccine should get to herd immunity by late spring, so says Dr. Fauci:

Fauci Predicts U.S. Could See Signs Of Herd Immunity By Late March Or Early April

Fauci said once the vaccine becomes widely available, if by "April, May, June, July, we get as many people vaccinated as possible, we could really turn this thing around" by the end of 2021.

health.wusf.usf.edu

Last post on the subject. You do get that things happen from the top down right? This has been the issue from Day 1 (which I consider to be January 22, 2020). No federal leadership. Sorry, the guy in the WH is directly responsible for that...and he failed..miserably.

"Several states have also said it's been difficult to plan a vaccine rollout when their supply numbers from the Trump administration are constantly changing and they are only receiving information on vaccine supply on a week-to-week basis.
"There is no federal organization, no federal rollout, there is no coordination between the federal government and state governments," Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, a Democrat, said on CNN "Newsroom" Thursday".

A new year brings same problems with delayed vaccine distribution

The Trump administration enters 2021 well short of its goal to vaccinate 20 million people by January 1, leaving state health officials across the country scrambling to ramp up a massive vaccine distribution effort that is crucial to defeating the pandemic and yet faces critical delays.

www.cnn.com

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Democrats the party of bad news. Remember Carter and America's malaise?
Republicans are the party of optimism and hope for the future.

Welcome back!