The U.S. and other nations have no definition of victory in Ukraine

[JWBooth]

The U.S. and other nations have no definition of victory in Ukraine​

I'm sure it has already been said, but I'm not reading nearly 250 posts.

“The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact.”​

Orwell - 1984​

 

[Deadstick]

Yes once the IMF get in it's game over for any Nation and it's independence.

 

[Ringo]