The Very Worst Racist

[Rikurzhen]

Democrats are pretty good with crafting their Big Lies and it's especially handy to farm it out to the media allies to propagate. It's so damn effective that Republican morons begin to believe it.

First the Southern Strategy. Next the Clinton Surplus. The lie goes around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

 

[Vigilante]

Just in case you need input in this regard, I think your effort to assure that no one will take you seriously, as an adult,

has succeeded. You can probably terminate that mission knowing you've succeeded.

I see that my little TRUTHFUL cartoons, are really starting to annoy you little piss ant subversives...perhaps I should double my efforts.... Jobs not done until you pond scum are swept away!

Zell Miller, the Right's favorite Democrat, was working for Lester Maddox about the time of your photo.

Who did B.J. Clinton work for?....Fulbright!....He was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. How does fucking yourself with your stupidity feel?

You're the one kissing Zell Miller's ass. The funniest part is that you didn't even know that he was one of the 60's Democrats you're bashing with that photo.

That is the best part. You retard.

Sorry pond scum, but FULBRIGHT trumps your bullshit!

 

[2aguy]

First the Southern Strategy. Next the Clinton Surplus. The lie goes around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

Wait till they start the lies about how great obama was...the truth won't have opened it's eyes let alone getting out of bed...

 

[Rikurzhen]

First the Southern Strategy. Next the Clinton Surplus. The lie goes around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

Wait till they start the lies about how great obama was...the truth won't have opened it's eyes let alone getting out of bed...

That's already started. Future history will know that Obama was so great that he earned a Nobel Prize after only 21 days in office. No other President EVAH in the history of the entire world has every done so much in so little time to earn so many accolades around the world.

 

[Vigilante]

First the Southern Strategy. Next the Clinton Surplus. The lie goes around the world before the truth gets out of bed.

Wait till they start the lies about how great obama was...the truth won't have opened it's eyes let alone getting out of bed...

That's already started. Future history will know that Obama was so great that he earned a Nobel Prize after only 21 days in office. No other President EVAH in the history of the entire world has every done so much in so little time to earn so many accolades around the world.

 

[paperview]

Has someone informed the last two RNC chairmen they didn't reeeeeeally have to apologize for the Southern Strategy, cause man, that was kinda a hard nut to suck on.

 

[Rikurzhen]

Has someone informed the last two RNC chairmen they didn't reeeeeeally have to apologize for the Southern Strategy, cause man, that was kinda a hard nut to suck on.

Recall what I said about Republican morons? They've internalized the Big Lie. Look at all of the fan-boys who support Carson, they too have internalized the Democrats message that Republicans are racist because too few blacks elect to join and so they support Carson. Same with the idiots who champion Rubio because he's Hispanic. This identity politics crap gets cooked up in the meth-houses of the Democrats and then infects everyone. Why was Rubio being championed for a shot at the Presidency? What had he done? Why Carson, what has he done?

You're faced with a dilemma, do you assess the socioeconomic and political facts as they played out from the 1960s to present or do you pretend the facts don't exist and go with the statements of two RNC chairmen? You answer only to yourself, but when you go out in public, people can judge you for how you present yourself.

 

[2aguy]

Has someone informed the last two RNC chairmen they didn't reeeeeeally have to apologize for the Southern Strategy, cause man, that was kinda a hard nut to suck on.

Because they are politicians and have bought the big lie...it is easier to apologize for something that didn't happen then to try to fight for the truth...they're politicians after all...and they are establishment republicans...who think the best strategy against democrats is to play nice...and when you are up against liberal/progressive/democrat/socialists...playing nice gets you exactly what you deserve...nothing...that's what it got Dole, McCain and Romney...all led by the establishment....and that is why Cruz and Palin scare them...they actually fight back...and win...

 

[2aguy]

From this excellent article on the myth of the southern strategy...

The Southern Strategy Myth and the Lost Majority RedState

The actual 1960s-era Republican record on civil rights is also not what is painted by the myth. When Thurmond met with Nixon to pledge his support in 1968, he asked for reassurance from Nixon on one issue: missile defense. Williamson on Goldwater:

Goldwater had supported the 1957 and 1960 acts but believed that Title II and Title VII of the 1964 bill were unconstitutional, based in part on a 75-page brief from Robert Bork. But far from extending a welcoming hand to southern segregationists, he named as his running mate a New York representative, William E. Miller, who had been the co-author of Republican civil-rights legislation in the 1950s. The Republican platform in 1964 was hardly catnip for Klansmen: It spoke of the Johnson administration’s failure to help further the “just aspirations of the minority groups” and blasted the president for his refusal “to apply Republican-initiated retraining programs where most needed, particularly where they could afford new economic opportunities to Negro citizens.”

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Other planks in the platform included: “improvements of civil rights statutes adequate to changing needs of our times; such additional administrative or legislative actions as may be required to end the denial, for whatever unlawful reason, of the right to vote; continued opposition to discrimination based on race, creed, national origin or sex.” And Goldwater’s fellow Republicans ran on a 1964 platform demanding “full implementation and faithful execution of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and all other civil rights statutes, to assure equal rights and opportunities guaranteed by the Constitution to every citizen.” Some dog whistle.

yeah, the kkk of the democrats would have loved that...

 

[paperview]

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Having never interacted with you before, I just looked at your post history and the threads you've started.

Holy shit.

You are one fucked up dude.

I really have no inclination to any more more expend energy beyond the psychotic mess that I just saw. Yow.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bull was certainly elite TPM material, for suh.

But Flakey, he was a Democrap!

Yup, the millennials and the dems won't tolerate that, and the GOP will be out, period.

So we throw you out and negotiate with the millennials, women, and Hispanics: we don't need you, vigi.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Dixiecrats found a home in the GOP.

False. Debunked countless times.

1964:

1968:

What happened later....?

What happened after 1968? This is what happened in 1976, by county:

Nice map.

Meaningless.

Not meaningless at all. Here's the state map. This is a direct falsification of your thesis. Was Carter a Conservative?

What happened next...Ronald Reagan, the man who was against the Civil Rights Act was voted in the next election, aMemba?

Are you kidding me? Why are you trying to cram your hypothesis to fit the data when the data shows something diffrent? The ENTIRE NATION went for Reagan, so why do you apply special rules to the South that you don't apply to all other states?

Are you familiar with the term Southern Strategy?

Yes, the Southern Strategy, the big BOLD LIE that's become accepted as truth:

If the parties had in some meaningful way flipped on civil rights, one would expect that to show up in the electoral results in the years following the Democrats’ 1964 about-face on the issue. Nothing of the sort happened: Of the 21 Democratic senators who opposed the 1964 act, only one would ever change parties. Nor did the segregationist constituencies that elected these Democrats throw them out in favor of Republicans: The remaining 20 continued to be elected as Democrats or were replaced by Democrats. It was, on average, nearly a quarter of a century before those seats went Republican. If southern rednecks ditched the Democrats because of a civil-rights law passed in 1964, it is strange that they waited until the late 1980s and early 1990s to do so.​

Here's how propagandists construct the Big Lie. They take some facts, overlook others, and the actually outright lie about the conclusions. What is the Big Lie about the Southern Strategy? Nixon did it. He flipped the South by appealing to their racism. Most of the South went for Wallace in 1968. The traditionally liberal parts of the country went for Humphrey and the rest of the nation went for Nixon. When the rest of the nation supports Nixon there are no nefarious motives assigned, but when a few Southern states follow the lead of the rest of the nation then they're doing it for the wrong reasons. What was their alternative, vote for Wallace or Humphrey and neither of those was palatable. Nixon didn't do anything.

Come 1972, the Big Lie has us believe that Nixon clamped a lock-down on the South. Well, he did the same everywhere except in Massachusetts. Now what happened in 1976, did that lock-down hold? Nope, look at all of those Democratic electoral votes in the South - a solid Democratic victory through every state which should be impossible if the Republicans had a lock on the Southern vote.

Jump forward to the Clinton years and let's see how much of a lock the Republicans have on the South. After the Reagan years, it should have been impossible for Clinton to win many of those states, remember the Southern Democrats were all Republicans now, except for the fact that evidence shows this not to be the case.

So what did happen in the South? This:

The Republican ascendancy in Dixie is associated with the rise of the southern middle class, the increasingly trenchant conservative critique of Communism and the welfare state, the Vietnam controversy and the rise of the counterculture, law-and-order concerns rooted in the urban chaos that ran rampant from the late 1960s to the late 1980s, and the incorporation of the radical Left into the Democratic party. Individual events, especially the freak show that was the 1968 Democratic convention, helped solidify conservatives’ affiliation with the Republican party. Democrats might argue that some of these concerns — especially welfare and crime — are “dog whistles” or “code” for race and racism, but this criticism is shallow in light of the evidence and the real saliency of those issues among U.S. voters of all backgrounds and both parties for decades. Indeed, Democrats who argue that the best policies for black Americans are those that are soft on crime and generous with welfare are engaged in much the same sort of cynical racial calculation President Johnson was practicing when he informed skeptical southern governors that his plan for the Great Society was “to have them ******* voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.” Johnson’s crude racism is, happily, largely a relic of the past, but his strategy endures.​

And the racist Dems overwhelming went into the southern GOP. Fact.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Just in case you need input in this regard, I think your effort to assure that no one will take you seriously, as an adult,

has succeeded. You can probably terminate that mission knowing you've succeeded.

I see that my little TRUTHFUL cartoons, are really starting to annoy you little piss ant subversives...perhaps I should double my efforts.... Jobs not done until you pond scum are swept away!

Southern conservatives are holding the weapons and the dogs.

 

[paperview]

Hey ...Johan Goldberg...remember him? Lots of cons love him, what with his "Liberal Fascism."

What did he have to say?

QUOTE: "You know, conservatives were largely on the wrong side of the civil rights movement in the 1960s and we should fess up to that."

How about ole history professor and GOP stalwart, Newt Gingrich:
"The fact is, it was the liberal wing of the Democratic Party that ended segregation. The fact is that it was Franklin Delano Roosevelt who gave hope to a nation that was in despair and could have slid into dictatorship. And the fact is, every Republican has much to learn from studying what the Democrats did right."

And The National Review, the John Birch Society, the Young American for Freedom, and other movement conservative organizations...the major conservative organizations still powerful today as they were then, nobody seems to want to talk about what their views were then - and who were - and are -- the people supporting them.

 

[Rikurzhen]

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Having never interacted with you before, I just looked at your post history and the threads you've started.

Holy shit.

You are one fucked up dude.

I really have no inclination to any more more expend energy beyond the psychotic mess that I just saw. Yow.

A non-response. The information in my comment, the maps, the socioeconomic data, is all you need to know. None of what you need to know to assess the Southern Strategy is dependent on the me.

That fact that you're engaging in ad hominem tells me a lot about you. Of course you're going to find anyone to the right of Stalin and Lenin objectionable to your political tastes but that should be immaterial to the issue. This is a direct FALSIFICATION of your hypothesis. Carter was not a conservative politician so this result should NOT have happened according to your hypothesis. Southern Strategy is a Big Lie whether you like me or not.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Let's say it again, and tell the far right to fuck off. America knows the truth, and if we in the GOP don't drop them after this election for good, the women and millennials and the Hispanics are going to the Dems in greater numbers and will stick it to us in 2016 for good. A bank teller, about 22, today told me (she's a millennial liberal) that her mother and three sisters, conservatives, have said they will vote for HRC. I think they will hold for 70% of women in 2015.

So let's say it again, because the rest of America agrees.

QUOTE: "You know, conservatives were largely on the wrong side of the civil rights movement in the 1960s and we should fess up to that. That's fine."

How about ole history professor and GOP stalwart, Newt Gingrich:
"The fact is, it was the liberal wing of the Democratic Party that ended segregation. The fact is that it was Franklin Delano Roosevelt who gave hope to a nation that was in despair and could have slid into dictatorship. And the fact is, every Republican has much to learn from studying what the Democrats did right."

 

[paperview]

Speech by George C. Wallace The Civil Rights Movement fraud, sham and hoax 1964

July 4, 1964

The [Civil Rights Act] is a fraud, a sham, and a hoax. This bill will live in infamy. To sign it into law at any time is tragic. To do so upon the eve of the celebration of our independence insults the intelligence of the American people.
It dishonors the memory of countless thousands of our dead who offered up their very lives in defense of principles which this bill destroys.

This bill is fraudulent in intent, in design, and in execution.

I am having nothing to do with this so-called civil rights bill.
The liberal left-wingers have passed it.

Now let them employ some pinknik social engineers in Washington, D.C., To figure out what to do with it.


It is perfectly obvious from the left-wing liberal press and from the left-wing law journals that what the court is saying behind all the jargon is that they don't like our form of government.

...
I am a conservative.

I intend to give the American people a clear choice. I welcome a fight between our philosophy and the liberal left-wing dogma which now threatens to engulf every man, woman, and child in the United States.
...
I intend to fight for a positive, affirmative program to restore constitutional government and to stop the senseless bloodletting now being performed on the body of liberty by those who lead us willingly and dangerously close to a totalitarian central government.
..."

Speech by George C. Wallace The Civil Rights Movement fraud, sham and hoax 1964 < 1951- < Documents < American History From Revolution To Reconstruction and beyond

 

[JakeStarkey]

After the attempted assassination that left GW crippled, he tried later to change from hatred.

The crippling is a metaphor of what his racial conservative hatred did to him emotionally.

 

[paperview]

"Southern Strategy is a Big Lie"

That's why ...in 2014 the GOP does not even have one single elected republican in Congress, has to issue "autopsy reports" after losing elections with directives about needing to get the minority vote -- and even people like Lindsey Graham saying "We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term." LOL

Try lying harder. It's not working.

 

[Rikurzhen]

"Southern Strategy is a Big Lie"

That's why ...in 2014 the GOP does not even have one single elected republican in Congress, has to issue "autopsy reports" after losing elections with directives about needing to get the minority vote -- and even people like Lindsey Graham saying "We're not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term." LOL

Try lying harder. It's not working.

You're still avoiding dealing with the falsification of your hypothesis.

Secondly, the "problem" of Republicans not having many black politicians or supporters is not the fault of Republicans. Remember always "Never blame the victim." Republicans are anti-racist so they have no race-based policies in their policy platform. Zero. Democrats, being racists, advocate all sorts of race-based policies and use these policies to bribe minorities.

It's not the fault of Republicans that so few blacks find anti-racist political positions appealing and instead prefer to be bought off with blatant racist appeals/bribes from Democrats.

Lindsay Graham is a waste of skin. He should be a Democrat if he believes that the way forward is to adopt Democratic Party type of racist policies which buy off minorities.