The Very Worst Racist

[JakeStarkey]

Dixiecrats found a home in the GOP.

False. Debunked countless times.

Always proved, and the right always lied. Tis what is, and the millennials know it.

 

[2aguy]

Another myth buster about the democrat southern strategy claim...

The Southern Strategy Myth and the Lost Majority RedState

 

[Vigilante]

 

[JakeStarkey]

Bull was certainly elite TPM material, for suh.

 

[2aguy]

As to the Kevin Phillips myth...

Setting History Straight How Did the Southern Strategy Myth Begin WayneDupree.com

A lazy, negligent editor partially read the story. And wrote a headline for it that attributed Nixon’s campaign success–to a plan he rejected. In fact, Phillips isn’t even mentioned in Nixon’s memoirs.

Is all of this the result of a negligent copy editor at the New York Times? Or did they purposely work with the Democrat Party to create this myth? That has crossed my mind and it’s certainly not beyond the realm of possibility.

Boyd wrote in his article, “Though Phillips’s ideas for an aggressive anti-liberal campaign strategy that would hasten defection of the working-class democrats to the republicans did not prevail in the 1968 campaign, he won the respect John Mitchell.” (Mitchell was a well-known Washington insider at the time).

 

[Vigilante]

Bull was certainly elite TPM material, for suh.

But Flakey, he was a Democrap!

 

[Rikurzhen]

Dixiecrats found a home in the GOP.

False. Debunked countless times.

1964:

1968:

What happened later....?

What happened after 1968? This is what happened in 1976, by county:

Nice map.

Meaningless.

Not meaningless at all. Here's the state map. This is a direct falsification of your thesis. Was Carter a Conservative?

What happened next...Ronald Reagan, the man who was against the Civil Rights Act was voted in the next election, aMemba?

Are you kidding me? Why are you trying to cram your hypothesis to fit the data when the data shows something diffrent? The ENTIRE NATION went for Reagan, so why do you apply special rules to the South that you don't apply to all other states?

Are you familiar with the term Southern Strategy?

Yes, the Southern Strategy, the big BOLD LIE that's become accepted as truth:

If the parties had in some meaningful way flipped on civil rights, one would expect that to show up in the electoral results in the years following the Democrats’ 1964 about-face on the issue. Nothing of the sort happened: Of the 21 Democratic senators who opposed the 1964 act, only one would ever change parties. Nor did the segregationist constituencies that elected these Democrats throw them out in favor of Republicans: The remaining 20 continued to be elected as Democrats or were replaced by Democrats. It was, on average, nearly a quarter of a century before those seats went Republican. If southern rednecks ditched the Democrats because of a civil-rights law passed in 1964, it is strange that they waited until the late 1980s and early 1990s to do so.​

Here's how propagandists construct the Big Lie. They take some facts, overlook others, and the actually outright lie about the conclusions. What is the Big Lie about the Southern Strategy? Nixon did it. He flipped the South by appealing to their racism. Most of the South went for Wallace in 1968. The traditionally liberal parts of the country went for Humphrey and the rest of the nation went for Nixon. When the rest of the nation supports Nixon there are no nefarious motives assigned, but when a few Southern states follow the lead of the rest of the nation then they're doing it for the wrong reasons. What was their alternative, vote for Wallace or Humphrey and neither of those was palatable. Nixon didn't do anything.

Come 1972, the Big Lie has us believe that Nixon clamped a lock-down on the South. Well, he did the same everywhere except in Massachusetts. Now what happened in 1976, did that lock-down hold? Nope, look at all of those Democratic electoral votes in the South - a solid Democratic victory through every state which should be impossible if the Republicans had a lock on the Southern vote.

Jump forward to the Clinton years and let's see how much of a lock the Republicans have on the South. After the Reagan years, it should have been impossible for Clinton to win many of those states, remember the Southern Democrats were all Republicans now, except for the fact that evidence shows this not to be the case.

So what did happen in the South? This:

The Republican ascendancy in Dixie is associated with the rise of the southern middle class, the increasingly trenchant conservative critique of Communism and the welfare state, the Vietnam controversy and the rise of the counterculture, law-and-order concerns rooted in the urban chaos that ran rampant from the late 1960s to the late 1980s, and the incorporation of the radical Left into the Democratic party. Individual events, especially the freak show that was the 1968 Democratic convention, helped solidify conservatives’ affiliation with the Republican party. Democrats might argue that some of these concerns — especially welfare and crime — are “dog whistles” or “code” for race and racism, but this criticism is shallow in light of the evidence and the real saliency of those issues among U.S. voters of all backgrounds and both parties for decades. Indeed, Democrats who argue that the best policies for black Americans are those that are soft on crime and generous with welfare are engaged in much the same sort of cynical racial calculation President Johnson was practicing when he informed skeptical southern governors that his plan for the Great Society was “to have them ******* voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.” Johnson’s crude racism is, happily, largely a relic of the past, but his strategy endures.​

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just in case you need input in this regard, I think your effort to assure that no one will take you seriously, as an adult,

has succeeded. You can probably terminate that mission knowing you've succeeded.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Bull was certainly elite TPM material, for suh.

But Flakey, he was a Democrap!

So is Zell Miller. What's your opinion on him? ...assuming you've heard of him...

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are far right wing, yes.

Patriotic you are not.

My entertainment value among the 90% of Board that is sane is to make you cry and sigh, stumble and bumble, ramble and shamble: just like you did above.

But I DIDN'T play REP FROG to PAD my ratings as you did! You're at best DISHONEST, and at the worst, a mentally deranged 2 digit IQ'dsubversive.... Honestly I believe you're both!

We busted the far right thugs, which was the right thing to do. If you had been here, we would have busted you too.

And you have been much more decent since the system change.

 

[Vigilante]

Just in case you need input in this regard, I think your effort to assure that no one will take you seriously, as an adult,

has succeeded. You can probably terminate that mission knowing you've succeeded.

I see that my little TRUTHFUL cartoons, are really starting to annoy you little piss ant subversives...perhaps I should double my efforts.... Jobs not done until you pond scum are swept away!

 

[2aguy]

And more on the myth...

Nixon s Southern Strategy The Democrat-Lie Keeping Their Control Over the Black Community WayneDupree.com

 

[Vigilante]

Bull was certainly elite TPM material, for suh.

But Flakey, he was a Democrap!

So is Zell Miller. What's your opinion on him? ...assuming you've heard of him...

Good Man of the people of Georgia!

 

[2aguy]

Vigilante...good articles...I had that one a while back but couldn't find it...good job...I get so tired of the liberal/progressive/democrat/socialist/statists...lying about the racism inherent in their belief system...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just in case you need input in this regard, I think your effort to assure that no one will take you seriously, as an adult,

has succeeded. You can probably terminate that mission knowing you've succeeded.

I see that my little TRUTHFUL cartoons, are really starting to annoy you little piss ant subversives...perhaps I should double my efforts.... Jobs not done until you pond scum are swept away!

Zell Miller, the Right's favorite Democrat, was working for Lester Maddox about the time of your photo.

 

[2aguy]

And here is where the myth becomes the lie...

Nixon s Southern Strategy The Democrat-Lie Keeping Their Control Over the Black Community WayneDupree.com

Nixon won southern states strictly on economic issues. He focused on increasing tariffs on foreign imports to protect the manufacturing and agriculture industries of those states. Some southern elected officials agreed to support him for the sake of their economies, including South Carolina Senator Strom Thurmond.

In fact, Nixon made it clear to the southern elected officials that he would not compromise on the civil rights issue.

“On civil rights, Thurmond knew my position was very different from his,” Nixon wrote. “I was for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and he was against it. Although he disagreed with me, he respected my sincerity and candor.”

 

[NYcarbineer]

Bull was certainly elite TPM material, for suh.

But Flakey, he was a Democrap!

So is Zell Miller. What's your opinion on him? ...assuming you've heard of him...

Good Man of the people of Georgia!

lol, you stepped right into it. Zell Miller worked for Lester Maddox in the 60's, a guy best known for passing out axe handles intended to beat the fuck out of black people.

 

[2aguy]

Ah yes...the great LBJ and his great society...of control over minorities...and his plan...

Indeed, Democrats who argue that the best policies for black Americans are those that are soft on crime and generous with welfare are engaged in much the same sort of cynical racial calculation President Johnson was practicing when he informed skeptical southern governors that his plan for the Great Society was “to have them ******* voting Democratic for the next two hundred years.” Johnson’s crude racism is, happily, largely a relic of the past, but his strategy endures.

Funny how that line is never brought up when the dems are praising the Great Society and it's wonderfullness...

is, happily, largely a relic of the past, but his strategy endures.

That racism isn't a relic of the past...the democrats have just extended it to include everyone...and they pit one race against another to create their power over others....sort of like Ming the Merciless...you know in that Flash Gordon movie...great soundtrack...

 

[Vigilante]

Just in case you need input in this regard, I think your effort to assure that no one will take you seriously, as an adult,

has succeeded. You can probably terminate that mission knowing you've succeeded.

I see that my little TRUTHFUL cartoons, are really starting to annoy you little piss ant subversives...perhaps I should double my efforts.... Jobs not done until you pond scum are swept away!

Zell Miller, the Right's favorite Democrat, was working for Lester Maddox about the time of your photo.

Who did B.J. Clinton work for?....Fulbright!....He was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. How does fucking yourself with your stupidity feel?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just in case you need input in this regard, I think your effort to assure that no one will take you seriously, as an adult,

has succeeded. You can probably terminate that mission knowing you've succeeded.

I see that my little TRUTHFUL cartoons, are really starting to annoy you little piss ant subversives...perhaps I should double my efforts.... Jobs not done until you pond scum are swept away!

Zell Miller, the Right's favorite Democrat, was working for Lester Maddox about the time of your photo.

Who did B.J. Clinton work for?....Fulbright!....He was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. How does fucking yourself with your stupidity feel?

You're the one kissing Zell Miller's ass. The funniest part is that you didn't even know that he was one of the 60's Democrats you're bashing with that photo.

That is the best part. You retard.