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Surely it's fine if Muslims where what they want. Isn't that freedom?
So we are ok if all husbands tell their wives what they can and can not wear?
This is an issue where religion and social acceptance comes cross.
You didn't seem to care about religious freedom when it came to the wedding baker and the gay cake.
According to that its been set that we favour societal norms over religious freedom. So are we going back to religious freedom now? Or are we telling the religious people to get over it and evolve? Just like we did the bakers.......
Yes, I'm okay with husbands telling their wives what to wear. It happens all the time. An ex of mine, her uncle was color blind almost totally, couldn't tell the difference between almost any color, saw perhaps two colors. His wife told him what to wear.
In an ideal world relationships would be based on equality, love, trust, all of that stuff, but so many aren't. In Islam, in Christianity, in nothing, there are people who will dominate others.
I don't like Islam, I don't like any religion, and the fact that men use it as a way of keeping women down makes me angry. However sometimes you have to accept what you don't like.
If I can do everything I want, it's anarchy, which means murder is okay, which means I can be murdered. I don't like this. So.... I prefer a limited amount of freedom where murder is wrong and I don't get murdered so I can enjoy my limited freedom.
This is life.
If we want freedom we have to accept that some people won't have that freedom, because they've "chosen" to not to have it. The woman has had many chances to get away, but she didn't, for whatever reasons.
Well that's the difference between you and I. I don't stand for anyone who bullies a woman. Our women are our queens and if we don't stand up for them then who will?
As men it's our job.
I don't stand for people who bully women either. However what can I do? Bullying is a fine line. If you ban bullying then people are going to be more repressed than if they were bullied.
I once worked in a restaurant/bar (the restaurant was illegal as I found out when the inspectors turned up in town and the restaurant disappeared for a while) and a big group of people came in. The wife of one went and ordered food. One of the orders was wrong, probably not the woman's fault. But her husband started verbally laying into her. I basically told him to stop it, his response was that this whole thing should stay in the family and they never came back again.
Did I tolerate? No I didn't.
Then again I went into a restaurant recently and a boy started hitting his grandmother quite hard. His mother did nothing about it, the father did nothing about it. What could I do? Nothing.
It's a shame there is so much quoted here that your ridiculous statement gets missed.
You don't stand for people who bully women ..... But you ask what can you do.....
Here is what a man does.... He stands up and calls out this behavior and takes the criticism because it's the right thing to stand up against.
Cowards make excuses While Men just stand up.
Part of being a man is having the character and courage to stand up for women everywhere.
If someone wants to go the beach fully clothed...should they be required to get a permit?Don't they have beaches in the Arabian Peninsula? or thereabouts ...in Islamic territories?
do they have to go and pollute the Western world with their Sharia Law??
enough is enough me thinks!![]()
If someone wants to go the beach fully clothed...should they be required to get a permit?Don't they have beaches in the Arabian Peninsula? or thereabouts ...in Islamic territories?
do they have to go and pollute the Western world with their Sharia Law??
enough is enough me thinks!![]()
Conform or else in the land of the free.there is a standard of how you dress at the beach. The standard is not cover up everything except your eye balls .
So we are ok if all husbands tell their wives what they can and can not wear?
This is an issue where religion and social acceptance comes cross.
You didn't seem to care about religious freedom when it came to the wedding baker and the gay cake.
According to that its been set that we favour societal norms over religious freedom. So are we going back to religious freedom now? Or are we telling the religious people to get over it and evolve? Just like we did the bakers.......
Yes, I'm okay with husbands telling their wives what to wear. It happens all the time. An ex of mine, her uncle was color blind almost totally, couldn't tell the difference between almost any color, saw perhaps two colors. His wife told him what to wear.
In an ideal world relationships would be based on equality, love, trust, all of that stuff, but so many aren't. In Islam, in Christianity, in nothing, there are people who will dominate others.
I don't like Islam, I don't like any religion, and the fact that men use it as a way of keeping women down makes me angry. However sometimes you have to accept what you don't like.
If I can do everything I want, it's anarchy, which means murder is okay, which means I can be murdered. I don't like this. So.... I prefer a limited amount of freedom where murder is wrong and I don't get murdered so I can enjoy my limited freedom.
This is life.
If we want freedom we have to accept that some people won't have that freedom, because they've "chosen" to not to have it. The woman has had many chances to get away, but she didn't, for whatever reasons.
Well that's the difference between you and I. I don't stand for anyone who bullies a woman. Our women are our queens and if we don't stand up for them then who will?
As men it's our job.
I don't stand for people who bully women either. However what can I do? Bullying is a fine line. If you ban bullying then people are going to be more repressed than if they were bullied.
I once worked in a restaurant/bar (the restaurant was illegal as I found out when the inspectors turned up in town and the restaurant disappeared for a while) and a big group of people came in. The wife of one went and ordered food. One of the orders was wrong, probably not the woman's fault. But her husband started verbally laying into her. I basically told him to stop it, his response was that this whole thing should stay in the family and they never came back again.
Did I tolerate? No I didn't.
Then again I went into a restaurant recently and a boy started hitting his grandmother quite hard. His mother did nothing about it, the father did nothing about it. What could I do? Nothing.
It's a shame there is so much quoted here that your ridiculous statement gets missed.
You don't stand for people who bully women ..... But you ask what can you do.....
Here is what a man does.... He stands up and calls out this behavior and takes the criticism because it's the right thing to stand up against.
Cowards make excuses While Men just stand up.
Part of being a man is having the character and courage to stand up for women everywhere.
Then you come across another man who is bigger than you, more aggressive than you, has a gun, is mental, whatever. Then what?
However I was asking the "what can you do?" more in reference to making laws to stop such action.
How can you tell?If someone wants to go the beach fully clothed...should they be required to get a permit?Don't they have beaches in the Arabian Peninsula? or thereabouts ...in Islamic territories?
do they have to go and pollute the Western world with their Sharia Law??
enough is enough me thinks!![]()
No....if the person is not a Sharia Law Islamist.
Fuck Islamic terrorists.
If someone wants to go the beach fully clothed...should they be required to get a permit?Don't they have beaches in the Arabian Peninsula? or thereabouts ...in Islamic territories?
do they have to go and pollute the Western world with their Sharia Law??
enough is enough me thinks!![]()
How can you tell?If someone wants to go the beach fully clothed...should they be required to get a permit?Don't they have beaches in the Arabian Peninsula? or thereabouts ...in Islamic territories?
do they have to go and pollute the Western world with their Sharia Law??
enough is enough me thinks!![]()
No....if the person is not a Sharia Law Islamist.
Fuck Islamic terrorists.
Do you need a permit to say that you don't require a permit?
?If someone wants to go the beach fully clothed...should they be required to get a permit?Don't they have beaches in the Arabian Peninsula? or thereabouts ...in Islamic territories?
do they have to go and pollute the Western world with their Sharia Law??
enough is enough me thinks!![]()
Public beaches have standards. It's a hygienic risk to be fully clothed.
How do you know they support Sharia Law?...and why these sharia law people are going to the beach anyway?
it's not in the Koran.
STOP POLLUTING FRENCH BEACHES YOU SCUM!
Conform or else in the land of the free.there is a standard of how you dress at the beach. The standard is not cover up everything except your eye balls .Yes, I'm okay with husbands telling their wives what to wear. It happens all the time. An ex of mine, her uncle was color blind almost totally, couldn't tell the difference between almost any color, saw perhaps two colors. His wife told him what to wear.
In an ideal world relationships would be based on equality, love, trust, all of that stuff, but so many aren't. In Islam, in Christianity, in nothing, there are people who will dominate others.
I don't like Islam, I don't like any religion, and the fact that men use it as a way of keeping women down makes me angry. However sometimes you have to accept what you don't like.
If I can do everything I want, it's anarchy, which means murder is okay, which means I can be murdered. I don't like this. So.... I prefer a limited amount of freedom where murder is wrong and I don't get murdered so I can enjoy my limited freedom.
This is life.
If we want freedom we have to accept that some people won't have that freedom, because they've "chosen" to not to have it. The woman has had many chances to get away, but she didn't, for whatever reasons.
Well that's the difference between you and I. I don't stand for anyone who bullies a woman. Our women are our queens and if we don't stand up for them then who will?
As men it's our job.
I don't stand for people who bully women either. However what can I do? Bullying is a fine line. If you ban bullying then people are going to be more repressed than if they were bullied.
I once worked in a restaurant/bar (the restaurant was illegal as I found out when the inspectors turned up in town and the restaurant disappeared for a while) and a big group of people came in. The wife of one went and ordered food. One of the orders was wrong, probably not the woman's fault. But her husband started verbally laying into her. I basically told him to stop it, his response was that this whole thing should stay in the family and they never came back again.
Did I tolerate? No I didn't.
Then again I went into a restaurant recently and a boy started hitting his grandmother quite hard. His mother did nothing about it, the father did nothing about it. What could I do? Nothing.
It's a shame there is so much quoted here that your ridiculous statement gets missed.
You don't stand for people who bully women ..... But you ask what can you do.....
Here is what a man does.... He stands up and calls out this behavior and takes the criticism because it's the right thing to stand up against.
Cowards make excuses While Men just stand up.
Part of being a man is having the character and courage to stand up for women everywhere.
Then you come across another man who is bigger than you, more aggressive than you, has a gun, is mental, whatever. Then what?
However I was asking the "what can you do?" more in reference to making laws to stop such action.
I guess That's the difference between you and I .... I stand up for what's right all the time.
That's ok. You can't help the type of man that you have become. Maybe your wife or husband will have enough balls for you.
Conform or else in the land of the free.there is a standard of how you dress at the beach. The standard is not cover up everything except your eye balls .Well that's the difference between you and I. I don't stand for anyone who bullies a woman. Our women are our queens and if we don't stand up for them then who will?
As men it's our job.
I don't stand for people who bully women either. However what can I do? Bullying is a fine line. If you ban bullying then people are going to be more repressed than if they were bullied.
I once worked in a restaurant/bar (the restaurant was illegal as I found out when the inspectors turned up in town and the restaurant disappeared for a while) and a big group of people came in. The wife of one went and ordered food. One of the orders was wrong, probably not the woman's fault. But her husband started verbally laying into her. I basically told him to stop it, his response was that this whole thing should stay in the family and they never came back again.
Did I tolerate? No I didn't.
Then again I went into a restaurant recently and a boy started hitting his grandmother quite hard. His mother did nothing about it, the father did nothing about it. What could I do? Nothing.
It's a shame there is so much quoted here that your ridiculous statement gets missed.
You don't stand for people who bully women ..... But you ask what can you do.....
Here is what a man does.... He stands up and calls out this behavior and takes the criticism because it's the right thing to stand up against.
Cowards make excuses While Men just stand up.
Part of being a man is having the character and courage to stand up for women everywhere.
Then you come across another man who is bigger than you, more aggressive than you, has a gun, is mental, whatever. Then what?
However I was asking the "what can you do?" more in reference to making laws to stop such action.
I guess That's the difference between you and I .... I stand up for what's right all the time.
That's ok. You can't help the type of man that you have become. Maybe your wife or husband will have enough balls for you.
No, the difference between you and me is that I can come onto a forum like this and be sensible and not make stuff up about other people.
He has a right to be a rightard lunatic.
Fair enough, Lucie.Some men are men of action and some are not.....