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The hell it isn’t.
There’s no one more qualified to speak of the pervasive relationship between mind and matter than George Wald, Arthur Eddington, Von Weizsacker and Wolfgang Pauli.
Who are you to say they are wrong?
It only looks that way to you because you intentionally parse everything. It’s dishonest.Please don't meander over into the Copenhagen Quantum Intepretation.
So it’s just a coincidence the universe popped into existence hardwired to produce intelligence?
How is it dishonest?It only looks that way to you because you intentionally parse everything. It’s dishonest.
No, consciousness is a product of a physical brain. A neural network. I have never seen a disembodied "consciousness".
Not really. It’s an extension of QM but not necessarily warranted or accurateIncorrect. It’s quantum mechanics.
And George Wald, Arthur Eddington, Von Weizsacker and Wolfgang Pauli would disagree with you.I believe that is actually a gross overextension of Quantum Mechanics. Yes electrons have wave-particle duality but on a MACRO SCALE you really don't cease to exist the minute you are not being perceived by others.
Plants are not conscious to my knowledge. Do you have information to the contrary?various versions of your statement - yours among the most extreme ...
not the cns, physiology itself is a metaphysical substance irregardless its spiritual component and has synthesis yet undetermined ...
not to mention the other half - flora
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flora hasn't a cns, central nervous system, much less a single neuron - for its consciousness.
And none of what you quoted was falsifiable so it was pure conjecture on their part. I am as correct as they areAnd George Wald, Arthur Eddington, Von Weizsacker and Wolfgang Pauli would disagree with you.
Elaborate what you mean "Actual" makes no sense for either.It wasn't an answer. It was a question. "Actual religion" and "actual science" make no sense.
Because those are the only two states.The cat in the box actually IS dead or alive.
Where do you believe the energy came from to create the universe?That sounds like a completely unfalsifiable statement and as such doesn't have any real value to me.
George Wald, Arthur Eddington, Von Weizsacker and Wolfgang Pauli would disagree.Wow, that's some serious woo-woo there.
But according to QM it could.The problem with extrapolating this to the macro world is that you never see tennis balls "tunnelling" through walls.
Where do you believe the energy came from to create the universe?
Before I move on, I wanted to take a moment to thank you wonderful guys for derailing my thread with your hair-pulling slapfight. May I suggest you exchange phone numbers?George Wald, Arthur Eddington, Von Weizsacker and Wolfgang Pauli would disagree.
George Wald, Arthur Eddington, Von Weizsacker and Wolfgang Pauli would disagree.And besides it's super lazy new age junk to leverage quantum for explaining the physical macro world. Most of the time the "examples" people use don't really apply to the macro but DO apply to quantum level behaviors...and more importantly to the math. Sometimes the math demands conclusions that the brain can't really deal with. And so we come up with analogies which don't necessarily work to describe other things.
How is this conversation not consistent with the OP?Before I move on, I wanted to take a moment to thank you wonderful guys for derailing my thread with your hair-pulling slapfight. May I suggest you exchange phone numbers?
Plants are not conscious to my knowledge. Do you have information to the contrary?
Seems like it is on topic. Religion and science at odds.Before I move on, I wanted to take a moment to thank you wonderful guys for derailing my thread with your hair-pulling slapfight. May I suggest you exchange phone numbers?
Again… George Wald, Arthur Eddington, Von Weizsacker and Wolfgang Pauli would disagree.Yes it is . But that doesn’t mean it extends to the concept of consciousness
