There is No Future Battle of Armageddon:

[Iamartiewhitefox]

Against Christian Zionism

What people are saying about Christian Zionism

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Against Christian Zionism - Wild Olive
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"Hal Lindsey is the leader of the Christian Zionism movement" Hal Lindsey is undoubtedly the most influential of all Christian Zionists of the 20 th century. Although rarely quoted by others, he has nevertheless been described by Time as 'The Jeremiah for this Generation, and by the New York Times as 'the best selling author of the decade.
Ephraimites · Christians Against Israel · Bad Theologies · Dual Covenant · Two Jerusalems
Hal Lindsey : Father of Apocalyptic Christian Zionism
stephensizer.com/articles/hallindsey.htm
1. The Significance of Hal Lindsey to Christian Zionism Hal Lindsey is undoubtedly the most influential of all Christian Zionists of the 20th century.

I say Old Scofield to direct people to a spesific book. That is evil? It is a well made book. It is a beutiful book. The concordance it has is useful.

 

[surada]

Yes----he had read the writings of your hero, Adolf Hitler, and
understood what the world was facing. He did not declare "war"
He suggested an economic boycott. You are quoting the islamo
nazi bullshit upon which you were suckled and is your religion.
What do you "IMAGINE" BDS is all about? I will help----it is an
attempt at genocide via starvation siege----nothing new for islamo-
nazi scum. HISTORICALLY---your fellow scum have favored the
technique for millennia. For modern examples----think Biafra,
East Pakistan, and East Jerusalem (1947) Back in the day---
Zoroastrians escaped by sea to Bombay (same inducement)

Samuel Untermyer was an important US zionist and fundraiser for the 5 million starving Jews in Europe from about 1900. He paid Scofield to write the Bible and paid to have it published.

 

[Iamartiewhitefox]

Against Christian Zionism

What people are saying about Christian Zionism

www.wildolive.co.uk

Against Christian Zionism - Wild Olive
www.wildolive.co.uk/against_christian_zionism.htm
"Hal Lindsey is the leader of the Christian Zionism movement" Hal Lindsey is undoubtedly the most influential of all Christian Zionists of the 20 th century. Although rarely quoted by others, he has nevertheless been described by Time as 'The Jeremiah for this Generation, and by the New York Times as 'the best selling author of the decade.
Ephraimites · Christians Against Israel · Bad Theologies · Dual Covenant · Two Jerusalems
Hal Lindsey : Father of Apocalyptic Christian Zionism
stephensizer.com/articles/hallindsey.htm
1. The Significance of Hal Lindsey to Christian Zionism Hal Lindsey is undoubtedly the most influential of all Christian Zionists of the 20th century.

Truth is not in Hal Lindsey. He is making demons to have false confidence concerning the end on the world. The lack of truth being spoken is making people to march around thinking that they have great power when they destroy god's image. Jesus healed that image. A simple basic truth, is not being taught.

 

[surada]

Interpreting Revelation: There is No Future Battle of Armageddon — A New Day Dawning

Did that get your attention?

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excerpt:

So what is this passage about? Revelation is to be interpreted according to the first verse of the book... "the Revelation (apocalypse-unveiling) of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must SHORTLY take place. And He sent and SIGNIFIED it by His angel to His servant John."

Apocalyptic language through signs. ie, there are nearly 400 references to the Hebrew scriptures that sign point to a previous event so we can understand that the destruction of Jerusalem will take place in such a manner. Apocalyptic is written in cataclysmic, cosmic, grandiose, language to paint a strong heart picture.

Megiddo is the place in history where wars and the blood-shed of kings took place. (2 Kings 9:27; 2 Kings 23:29, and historically)

So Armageddon in Revelation is not about a great end time battle in our future. It was a sign to describe in apocalyptic language the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. In other words, just as there were slaughters in the valley in the past (sign pointing-Revelation 1:1), now in John's day, Jerusalem, which sits on a mountain (Mt Zion-2500 ft elevation), will experience slaughter.

Zechariah prophesied it as well using the same idea about Jerusalem: "On that day the weeping in JERUSALEM will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of MEGIDDO." (12:11) It was used by John as a figure of speech to say Jerusalem would experience death and war just as in Megiddo in the past.

It is true the world goes through many upheavals and transitions, but Is. 9 says, "of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end." We have a hope filled future that the "KNOWLEDGE of the glory of the Lord will cover the earth as the waters cover the sea!"

2. ACCORDING TO THE FUTURISTS JESUS WILL COME LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT IN A SECRET RAPTURE. THEY TEACH THIS COULD HAPPEN AT ANY TIME AND AFTERWARDS IS THE TRIBULATION AND ARMAGEDDON.

 

[kjw47]

you got that wrong too.

After Har-maggedon--death will be no more proves your teachers darkness, it has NOT occurred yet.

 

[surada]

After Har-maggedon--death will be no more proves your teachers darkness, it has NOT occurred yet.

There is no Har Maggedon. There is the plain of Megiddo .. and a location where the foreign armies of the Roman Empire gathered in 66 D.

You have never been to the Holy Lands, have you?

 

[kjw47]

There is no Har Maggedon. There is the plain of Megiddo .. and a location where the foreign armies of the Roman Empire gathered in 66 D.

You have never been to the Holy Lands, have you?

There isnt anything holy about those lands anymore. God cut the Israelite religion off of being his after they sent his son to his death.( Matthew 23:38-39) God is so loving and merciful though he left the door open to them---They MUST accept Jesus as the one sent forth to them from God-the Messiah---Its been over 1950 years, they outright refuse.
You will be very sad to find out the hard way that your teachers do not have truth. Har-mageddon is coming.

This world in its condition cannot go on for much longer. Global warming gets worse every year. Prices are skyrocketing. Violence has raised immensely in our cities. Cant have sex without a condom, cant go anywhere without a mask, cannot take a drink of water unless chlorine is added. The air is polluted, our food is polluted, the land is polluted. They are selling us cancer. Hearts are filling with hatred worse than ever. Nuclear bombs held over our heads. As Revelation says--The sea( human race) became agitated.
Soon many more will be forced into the streets because rents are ridiculous. The drug addiction is way up there. Just as the bible says--Men will become faint out of fear, not knowing the way out.
Do not be caught with this world and its darkness it is almost done.

Gods kingdom is mankinds ONLY remaining hope.

 

[surada]

There isnt anything holy about those lands anymore. God cut the Israelite religion off of being his after they sent his son to his death.( Matthew 23:38-39) God is so loving and merciful though he left the door open to them---They MUST accept Jesus as the one sent forth to them from God-the Messiah---Its been over 1950 years, they outright refuse.
You will be very sad to find out the hard way that your teachers do not have truth. Har-mageddon is coming.

This world in its condition cannot go on for much longer. Global warming gets worse every year. Prices are skyrocketing. Violence has raised immensely in our cities. Cant have sex without a condom, cant go anywhere without a mask, cannot take a drink of water unless chlorine is added. The air is polluted, our food is polluted, the land is polluted. They are selling us cancer. Hearts are filling with hatred worse than ever. Nuclear bombs held over our heads. As Revelation says--The sea( human race) became agitated.
Soon many more will be forced into the streets because rents are ridiculous. The drug addiction is way up there. Just as the bible says--Men will become faint out of fear, not knowing the way out.
Do not be caught with this world and its darkness it is almost done.

Gods kingdom is mankinds ONLY remaining hope.

OK.. no Holy Lands.. Have you been to Palestine?

 

[fncceo]

to prevent the complete slaughter of the Jews.

We've already taken care of that ...

 

[fncceo]

This world in its condition cannot go on for much longer. Global warming gets worse every year. Prices are skyrocketing. Violence has raised immensely in our cities. Cant have sex without a condom, cant go anywhere without a mask, cannot take a drink of water unless chlorine is added. The air is polluted, our food is polluted, the land is polluted. They are selling us cancer.

Except .. what you say isn't true.

Statistically speaking, people live longer lives and die violently much less frequently today than an any other time since humans first came down from the trees.

Despite the prognostications of doom and gloom, humans are doing quite well, thank you very much.

 

[surada]

Except .. what you say isn't true.

Statistically speaking, people live longer lives and die violently much less frequently today than an any other time since humans first came down from the trees.

Despite the prognostications of doom and gloom, humans are doing quite well, thank you very much.

Gloom and doom is the constant theme in the JW theology.

 

[fncceo]

Gloom and doom is the constant theme in the JW theology.

It's a common theme in everything we hear and see these days. It just doesn't align with facts.

 

[surada]

It's a common theme in everything we hear and see these days. It just doesn't align with facts.

The Rapture/end times scenario has become very popular since Prophet Hal Lindsey wrote Late Great Planet Earth.

 

[surada]

10 Reasons Why Jehovah’s Witnesses Are Unhappy | by ...




There a plenty of reasons that make Jehovah’s Witnesses unhappy, but here are 10 very good ones. 1) Denial of Self One thing you learn early on when you are born from Jehovah’s Witnesses parents...

 

[fncceo]

The Rapture/end times scenario has become very popular since Prophet Hal Lindsey wrote Late Great Planet Earth.

You don't even have to look to dour-faced religionists for doom and gloom -- which, practically speaking, is their stock and trade.

Even today's purveyors of fun and creators of "The Happiest Place on Earth", instead of presenting us with a future of Jetson's apartment buildings in the sky, vacations on the moon, and better living through chemistry ... they now give us

A steam-punk, clockwork world where technology seems to have peaked in the 19th Century.

 

[surada]

You don't even have to look to dour-faced religionists for doom and gloom -- which, practically speaking, is their stock and trade.

Even today's purveyors of fun and creators of "The Happiest Place on Earth", instead of presenting us with a future of Jetson's apartment buildings in the sky, vacations on the moon, and better living through chemistry ... they now give us

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A steam-punk, clockwork world where technology seems to have peaked in the 19th Century.

True.. There is quite a backlash against science and modernity among some religious people.

JW's are date setters for the end times..

Failed date predictions of Jehovah's Witnesses

Failed date predictions of Jehovah's Witnesses

Failed Watchtower date predictions and changed date doctrine of Jehovah's Witnesses, including lesser known ones such as 1799, 1844, 1874, 1878, 1918, 1920 and the 1940's.

jwfacts.com

1874. 1874 was a key date for Russell. In many ways, 1874 was to Russell what 1914 is to Jehovah 's Witnesses today. 1874 was the time of the second coming or second advent, the start of Jesus' invisible presence, the start of the harvest work and the beginning of …

 

[Colin norris]

Interpreting Revelation: There is No Future Battle of Armageddon — A New Day Dawning

Did that get your attention?

www.anewdaydawning.com

There is No Future Battle of Armageddon:

Did that get your attention?

Revelation 16:16, "And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon."

Movies are made about it. Theologies are built around it. Book series are written about it. Fear is cultivated because of it.

1. BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS NO SUCH PLACE IN ISRAEL CALLED ARMAGEDDON?
It doesn't exist, nor will it exist in the future. The word is made up of two parts... Ar (har) which means "mountain" and Megiddo which is in the valley of Jezreel. There is no mountain there. (There is a small "tell" which is just where cities have built and rebuilt on top of each other but no mountain).

So what is this passage about? Revelation is to be interpreted according to the first verse of the book... "the Revelation (apocalypse-unveiling) of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants—things which must SHORTLY take place. And He sent and SIGNIFIED it by His angel to His servant John."

Apocalyptic language through signs. ie, there are nearly 400 references to the Hebrew scriptures that sign point to a previous event so we can understand that the destruction of Jerusalem will take place in such a manner. Apocalyptic is written in cataclysmic, cosmic, grandiose, language to paint a strong heart picture.

Megiddo is the place in history where wars and the blood-shed of kings took place. (2 Kings 9:27; 2 Kings 23:29, and historically)

So Armageddon in Revelation is not about a great end time battle in our future. It was a sign to describe in apocalyptic language the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. In other words, just as there were slaughters in the valley in the past (sign pointing-Revelation 1:1), now in John's day, Jerusalem, which sits on a mountain (Mt Zion-2500 ft elevation), will experience slaughter.

Zechariah prophesied it as well using the same idea about Jerusalem: "On that day the weeping in JERUSALEM will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of MEGIDDO." (12:11) It was used by John as a figure of speech to say Jerusalem would experience death and war just as in Megiddo in the past.

It is true the world goes through many upheavals and transitions, but Is. 9 says, "of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end." We have a hope filled future that the "KNOWLEDGE of the glory of the Lord will cover the earth as the waters cover the sea!"

2. ACCORDING TO THE FUTURISTS JESUS WILL COME LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT IN A SECRET RAPTURE. THEY TEACH THIS COULD HAPPEN AT ANY TIME AND AFTERWARDS IS THE TRIBULATION AND ARMAGEDDON.
They say that because he comes as a thief in the night there will be no signs preceding this rapture coming of the Lord.

continued

Don't bother continuing. There will be no judgement day etc. It's all bullshit like every piece of the religious crap you belch.
After 2000 years of religious threats to keep the believers in line, nothing has appeared. You can't be serious to suggest it is nigh .

 

[surada]

Don't bother continuing. There will be no judgement day etc. It's all bullshit like every piece of the religious crap you belch.
After 2000 years of religious threats to keep the believers in line, nothing has appeared. You can't be serious to suggest it is nigh .

Its first century history... not in the future.

The Great Revolt (66 - 70 CE)

Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org

 

[Colin norris]

Its first century history not in the future.

NOT in the future I envisage. There is no God and anyone who believes there is is a fool.

 

[fncceo]

NOT in the future I envisage. There is no God and anyone who believes there is is a fool.

You invest a lot of your emotions and energy into what other people think.

I can assure you that no one gives a fetid dingo's kidney what you think.

The least you can do is return the courtesy.