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As far as I know the Nashville shooter didn't use an AR-15, he used a Keltec Sub2000 carbine in 9mm pistol caliber, a 9mm Smith and Wesson Shield handgun and a Lead Star Arms Grunt 16" .223. He seems to have done all the killing with the 9mms, not the .223 which he seems to have used to shoot up the door.152 shots by the Nashville shooter with an AR-15 shows different.
You'll figure it out.What would need to be changed if it was originally designed to be semi-auto?
Seems like the problem was the .223, semi autos AND high capacity magazines.As far as I know the Nashville shooter didn't use an AR-15, he used a Keltec Sub2000 carbine in 9mm pistol caliber, a 9mm Smith and Wesson Shield handgun and a Lead Star Arms Grunt 16" .223. He seems to have done all the killing with the 9mms, not the .223 which he seems to have used to shoot up the door.
Very true. I carry two 15 round spare magazines of Federal LE/Person Defense in my shoulder holster, a capacity of 46 rnds as I carry with 15 and 1.Only because of magazine capacity. If one really wants to, they can also get magazines for pistols that carry 15 and 30 rounds per mag., but any skilled shooter can swap 6-8 round capacity mags in like 1-2 seconds showing that these shooters are not trained nor skilled.
Very true. I carry two 15 round spare magazines of Federal LE/Person Defense in my shoulder holster, a capacity of 46 rnds as I carry with 15 and 1.
Last time I checked, I don't live in N. Korea, nor do I have plans to visit. I live in the US where rights are recognized (so far) so your comment is irrelevant to the topic.I advise you not to take a vacation to North Korea
Your favorite line.
Can an inanimate ghost pull a trigger?
The COLT Ar 15 was designed to be a civilian model.What would need to be changed if it was originally designed to be semi-auto?
Sure -- if you want to put people you disagree with into boxcars, there's a great argument for banning all guns.
Those people are why we have the 2nd Amendment,
I made one argument, the one in the OP
And, apparently, you know you cannot argue against it.
Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.
Again, with an AR-15 the shooter got off 152 rounds in 10 minutes.You didn't understand....try reading it again....perhaps have a small child read it to you........
No, it doesnt and if you inderstood the issue you would know this....
Nashville
AR-15 rifle 6 killed
Kerch, Russia
5 shot, pump action shotgun, not a rifle, no magazine
20 killed
Navy Yard shooting
5 shot, pump action shotgun,not a rifle, no magazine
12 killed
The gun does not determine how many are killed and you have been explained this over and over
The amount of time the killer has in a gun free zone before someone shoota and stops them determines how many get killed as the two example above show.
Again, with an AR-15 the shooter got off 152 rounds in 10 minutes.
Are you hoping for better?
Again, the Nashville shooter got off 152 rounds in less than 10 minutes while you offer propaganda wanting more time for a murder with a different weapon.And again.....
You didn't understand....try reading it again....perhaps have a small child read it to you........
No, it doesnt and if you inderstood the issue you would know this....
Nashville
AR-15 rifle 6 killed
Kerch, Russia
5 shot, pump action shotgun, not a rifle, no magazine
20 killed
Navy Yard shooting
5 shot, pump action shotgun,not a rifle, no magazine
12 killed
Cumbria shooting in Britain...
...no semi-auto rifle...... Double barrel shotgun, bolt action rifle
13 killed, 11 injured....
Santa Fe, High school shooting....
No rifle, pump action shotgun, .38 caliber revolver
10 killed
The gun does not determine how many are killed and you have been explained this over and over
The amount of time the killer has in a gun free zone before someone shoota and stops them determines how many get killed as the two example above show.
Again, the Nashville shooter got off 152 rounds in less than 10 minutes while you offer propaganda wanting more time for a murder with a different weapon.
Seems like the problem was the .223, semi autos AND high capacity magazines.
Seems like the problem was the .223, semi autos AND high capacity magazines.
So, you pick the example of German fascism. "If we don't have guns, this one example is what WILL happen", and yet a place like the UK doesn't have many guns, and didn't turn into German fascism, did it?
You made an argument, and I'm arguing against it. By arguing against it you're telling me I can't argue against it. That seems a little weird.
Just because my argument is pointing out the tactic that you're using... doesn't mean it's not an argument.
Secondly, I don't necessarily disagree with you. Banning one gun type and not banning others isn't going to solve the problem. However I'm expanding the argument beyond that because we can't just go around talking only about one thing we probably agree on.
I feel we agree for different reasons, hence why I brought up that you're saying we shouldn't ban one type of gun because you don't want any type of gun to be banned, whereas I'm saying we shouldn't ban one type of gun, we should ban a lot more, or all types of guns.....
See?
and yet a place like the UK doesn't have many guns, and didn't turn into German fascism, did it?
Hilarious
Fuckup
Really the gun doesn't matter????
Yeah, so, why has no mass murderer chosen a ball and musket...
There's also no rational, reasoned argument in favor of possessing an AR 15.Every time an AR15 is used in a mass shooting - and quite often, even when they aren't - the anti-gun left, in a pre-packaged reactionary response , screams from a ban on same, complete with "information" designed to evoke an emotional response, and, they hope, gain your support for said ban.
What do they NOT tell you?
-American civilians own ~20,000,000 AR15s
-Of the 636 mas shootings in the US, 2022, 8 involved an AR15
-OF the 660 people killed in those mass shootings 54 were killed with an AR15.
[ SOURCES NOTED BELOW ]
Why do they not tell you this?
Because they know there's no sound argument for the ban they call for.
Because they know they need to prey on the emotions of the ignorant to move their ban forward
Because they know preying on the emotions of the ignorant works.
Because they don't care about mass shootings or the people in them - they just want to ban AR15s.
There's no rational, reasoned argument for a ban on AR15s; those who support said ban, in their responses, will demonstrate the truth of this statement.
20,000,000 AR15s:
Mass shootings as defined by:
Why even more Americans are arming up with AR-15 guns
What's behind the popularity of the AR-15, and what responsibility do gun makers have when their products are used in mass shootings?www.cnbc.com
Mass Shootings in 2022 | Gun Violence Archive
Supplemental / detailed information from;
US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation
There's also no rational, reasoned argument in favor of possessing an AR 15.
Possessing an AR 15 is a want, not a ‘need’ – and there’s nothing wrong with that; citizens are entitled to exercise a fundamental right without being required to ‘justify’ exercising that right as a ‘prerequisite’ to indeed do so.
It’s therefore silly and unnecessary to try to ‘justify’ possessing an AR 15 in an effort to oppose bans – there are other firearms better suited for self-defense and one isn’t going to deter ‘government tyranny’ with a semi-automatic carbine.
Last, there’s no political will in Washington to enact a ‘new’ AWB; and bans at the state level will soon be struck down by the Supreme Court – in fact, topics about ‘banning’ AR 15s are likewise silly and unnecessary.
