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Show where her agency told her not to use a personal account and she defied them
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These are the laws hilary broke with her classified materials violations….
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Care4all
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In fact, the government had to specifically link her email to their gvt System... she could not do that, her staff could not do that on their own....She didn'tAt best you have a security violation against Hillary. There was no breech.
Republicans will spend a year and millions of dollars investigating and the end result will be a statement saying she shouldn't have done that
If it was on a private server that was the breach….you cannot put that material on an unsecured server….
All material was unclassified and unmarked
Her agencies security division approved of the process. Just like they did for Colin Powell
You can make no claim that classified material got into the wrong hands. Security violation at best
C_Clayton_Jones
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"These are the laws hilary broke with her classified materials violations…."
No, these are the lies contrived and propagated by the right.
No, these are the lies contrived and propagated by the right.
Where_r_my_Keys
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"These are the laws hilary broke with her classified materials violations…."
No, these are the lies contrived and propagated by the right.
ROFMNAO!
Adorable...
Obiwan
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So you're implicating others in Obama's administration to Hillary's illegal behavior????In fact, the government had to specifically link her email to their gvt System... she could not do that, her staff could not do that on their own....She didn'tAt best you have a security violation against Hillary. There was no breech.
Republicans will spend a year and millions of dollars investigating and the end result will be a statement saying she shouldn't have done that
If it was on a private server that was the breach….you cannot put that material on an unsecured server….
All material was unclassified and unmarked
Her agencies security division approved of the process. Just like they did for Colin Powell
You can make no claim that classified material got into the wrong hands. Security violation at best
Nice...
Can you give us a few links for that?????
2aguy
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Show where her agency told her not to use a personal account and she defied themAnd her agency approved the setup like they did under PowellIf someone sent her unmarked classified information the violation is on themKeep telling yourself that…..if they copied the material without being able to take it off of the isolated, secure servers, then the designations wouldn't be on the email would it…if they copied it from memory, or made hard copy notes…but the material was still on her private server…..anyone else and they would already be facing charges….
No……she set up an unsecure private server……..had she used secure, government servers this would not be an issue.
Yeah…keep saying it…..it will make you think it is a convincing argument the more you repeat it….
Really...as Secretary of State they wanted her to use a private, unsecure server for government work...really?
aris2chat
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18 USC Sec. 1924
18 USC Sec. 793
Some 305 emails from the server were identified as containing classified information.
Yeah...but were they "Classified, classified" emails?
Secretary of State didn't realize what should be classified and not? her staff didn't?
AmericanFirst1
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You lose retard if that is all you have, which is normal for you. Scumbag.That's not even close to a correct usage of periods.that's awesome. what violations? you can show that clinton violated the cited laws?
She had classified information on her private server…that is a violation right there…however it got there……so in the least her aids are looking at some serious problems…the only way to get that information out of secured areas is to copy it by hand or memory…..and then upload it outside…so whoever went there and got the info…..they are in trouble.
2aguy
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this article explains what an "Air Gap" is and how there is no way classified information could leave a "SKIF" area because they are completely isolated. If there was classified information on Hilary's server laws were broken...
Hillary’s Air Gap Problem
Then I went overseas, where there were secure communications, but it was using a 30-year-old teletype. When I came back, things had changed: there was email. Working on a classified project, I had an actual terminal at my desk, and could send email to my colleagues. But only the ones on that project, because the whole computer, network and all, was in a shielded Secure Compartmented Information Facility, a SCIF. The only connections to the outside world were telephones with push-to-talk buttons, and the power lines – which were specially isolated so that no signals could leak out.
The effect was an air gap – there were no electronic connections to the outside world, so there were no pathways for secrets to escape by electronic means. Someone would have to carry a document, or a disk drive, out of the room, and we had guards and such to see they didn’t.
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This information would always be air-gapped. There is no (legitimate) way that a computer system could be connected to TS//SI//TK//NOFORN data and to the outside world.
What can happen is that someone copies information, onto a piece of paper or a thumb drive (actually systems that can handle TS shouldn’t have thumb drives either, but it’s too easy to sneak one in or out) and then copied into an email in an uncontrolled system – a cell phone or a laptop or an iPad. The person doing it has to know that it’s coming from a secure system, has to know how sensitive the data really is; they go through lots of training, repeated reminders, and come and go to the office through a freaking vault door that would do credit to a bank.
It has to be done on purpose, and it has to be done knowingly. There has to have been conscious intent to do it.
That, folks, is a violation of 18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, for which the prescribed punishment is to be “fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.” Which applies both to the sender, and to the recipient.
Hillary’s Air Gap Problem
Then I went overseas, where there were secure communications, but it was using a 30-year-old teletype. When I came back, things had changed: there was email. Working on a classified project, I had an actual terminal at my desk, and could send email to my colleagues. But only the ones on that project, because the whole computer, network and all, was in a shielded Secure Compartmented Information Facility, a SCIF. The only connections to the outside world were telephones with push-to-talk buttons, and the power lines – which were specially isolated so that no signals could leak out.
The effect was an air gap – there were no electronic connections to the outside world, so there were no pathways for secrets to escape by electronic means. Someone would have to carry a document, or a disk drive, out of the room, and we had guards and such to see they didn’t.
******************************
This information would always be air-gapped. There is no (legitimate) way that a computer system could be connected to TS//SI//TK//NOFORN data and to the outside world.
What can happen is that someone copies information, onto a piece of paper or a thumb drive (actually systems that can handle TS shouldn’t have thumb drives either, but it’s too easy to sneak one in or out) and then copied into an email in an uncontrolled system – a cell phone or a laptop or an iPad. The person doing it has to know that it’s coming from a secure system, has to know how sensitive the data really is; they go through lots of training, repeated reminders, and come and go to the office through a freaking vault door that would do credit to a bank.
It has to be done on purpose, and it has to be done knowingly. There has to have been conscious intent to do it.
That, folks, is a violation of 18 U.S. Code § 793 – Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information, for which the prescribed punishment is to be “fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.” Which applies both to the sender, and to the recipient.
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