How about the Torah? Fuck that too?
Zone1 this is the end of human history and why
- Thread starter OneIsTheWord
- Start date
The Sage of Main Street
Gold Member
Opposites Distract
As long as you believe in Liberalism, which, like theism, is not based on reality, you'll drive people searching for answers into Christofascism.
The Sage of Main Street
Gold Member
Insulting Psychobabble
Frankenstein
Diamond Member
- Oct 28, 2022
- 11,117
- 7,391
- 1,938
Thank you for confirmation~
When John was allowed to view the writings of the fourth seal, this is what he saw:
Revelation 6:7-8
7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
If the fourth seal is a representation of the fourth thousand year period of the earth's temporal existence, this would include the days of King David and Solomon as well as the conquests of Babylonian Empire, Medo-Persian Empire, the Greco-Macedonian Empire, and the Roman Empire. These empires were the beasts the earth and caused much killing and death on the earth. Even in the times of David there was much war. The fourth seal or the fourth thousand year period the earth's temporal existence was a time of much war and death. This was a time that led up to the time of Christ and I believe included the days of Christ. One of the beasts even killed the Savior of this world.
When John was allowed to view the writings of the fifth seal, this is what he saw:
Revelation 6: 9-11
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
If the fifth seal is a representation of the fifth thousand year period of the earth's temporal existence, this would include the days of the Apostles and their martyrdoms. They were to await until the second coming of Christ before the wicked would be avenged on the earth. My personal belief is that the fifth seal lasted from 34 A.D. to 1033 A.D.
When John was allowed to view the writings of the sixth seal, this is what he saw:
Revelation 6:12-17
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Revelation 7
Chapter 7
John also sees in the sixth seal the Restoration of the gospel, the sealing of the 144,000, and the hosts of the exalted from all nations.
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
If the sixth seal is a representation of the sixth thousand year period of the earth's temporal existence, this, in my personal belief, will take us up to 2033 A.D. I believe the things spoken of will shortly come to pass within the next 8 years, it now being 2025. The 144,000 from each tribe of Israel will be chosen and they will assist in spreading the gospel over the face of the whole earth. There will be a great earthquake and the sun shall be darkened the moon will turn to blood and these things will be great signs before the second coming of Christ.
Throughout the rest of the Book of Revelation, John sees the events of the seventh seal, which is the era of the millennial reign of Jesus Christ upon the earth. Jesus' second coming will be sometime shortly after the opening of the seventh seal and after the silence in heaven for the space of 1/2 hour. I believe the second coming is not too far distant into the future and that there are those living today who will experience this greatest of events in human history. May we all prepare for this great event.
Revelation 6:7-8
7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
If the fourth seal is a representation of the fourth thousand year period of the earth's temporal existence, this would include the days of King David and Solomon as well as the conquests of Babylonian Empire, Medo-Persian Empire, the Greco-Macedonian Empire, and the Roman Empire. These empires were the beasts the earth and caused much killing and death on the earth. Even in the times of David there was much war. The fourth seal or the fourth thousand year period the earth's temporal existence was a time of much war and death. This was a time that led up to the time of Christ and I believe included the days of Christ. One of the beasts even killed the Savior of this world.
When John was allowed to view the writings of the fifth seal, this is what he saw:
Revelation 6: 9-11
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.
If the fifth seal is a representation of the fifth thousand year period of the earth's temporal existence, this would include the days of the Apostles and their martyrdoms. They were to await until the second coming of Christ before the wicked would be avenged on the earth. My personal belief is that the fifth seal lasted from 34 A.D. to 1033 A.D.
When John was allowed to view the writings of the sixth seal, this is what he saw:
Revelation 6:12-17
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Revelation 7
Chapter 7
John also sees in the sixth seal the Restoration of the gospel, the sealing of the 144,000, and the hosts of the exalted from all nations.
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
If the sixth seal is a representation of the sixth thousand year period of the earth's temporal existence, this, in my personal belief, will take us up to 2033 A.D. I believe the things spoken of will shortly come to pass within the next 8 years, it now being 2025. The 144,000 from each tribe of Israel will be chosen and they will assist in spreading the gospel over the face of the whole earth. There will be a great earthquake and the sun shall be darkened the moon will turn to blood and these things will be great signs before the second coming of Christ.
Throughout the rest of the Book of Revelation, John sees the events of the seventh seal, which is the era of the millennial reign of Jesus Christ upon the earth. Jesus' second coming will be sometime shortly after the opening of the seventh seal and after the silence in heaven for the space of 1/2 hour. I believe the second coming is not too far distant into the future and that there are those living today who will experience this greatest of events in human history. May we all prepare for this great event.
OneIsTheWord
Gold Member
- Jan 29, 2022
- 1,116
- 228
- 138
- Thread starter
- #26
greeting
thank you
If I may
Unfortunately, the word is specific meaning the word accuracy, there are men or women who are too far gone, their minds too raw, as you see, these types of individuals cannot be turned back their minds are too programmed in the condition they are, these type of people or individuals cannot be saved they're mine or two cardinal This is why they can never repent. But most likely one at the appointed time, all we are resurrected as shown with Lazarus, indicates that they do not wish to be resurrected in other words this is the only life they know, that it ends with total non-existence they do not believe the afterlife.
They won't acknowledge Christ because and they're mind is programmed in such a manner that they cannot come back to reality.
The root of sin has full bloom in their life they fill up their cups full of iniquity the people have filled up their cups with sins as we see in Jeremiah
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is of Sin is Death. This is the second death.
Revelation 2:11 He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
eternal death
In Rom. 1:18; God’s wrath is in view.
In Rom. 1:19-20. Man can clearly see the power of God in the world.
In Rom. 1:21-22; Man refuses to give God glory and honor, and man’s manifestation, total spiritual deadness, and total depravity, beginning with our first parents, Adam and Eve.
In Romans 1:24, 26, 28; God gives them up to a Reprobate mind, with no turning back
And Romans 1:29-31; There are 24 Sins, God speaks about in these verses.
In Romans 1:32; Man knows he deserves to be damned and that he persists in his sins, and that he even enjoys and delights to see others sin against God, because of his depravity.
Jeremiah 2:29-31 (KJV)Wherefore will ye plead with me? ye all have transgressed against me, saith the LORD. In vain have I smitten your children; they received no correction: your own sword ( see Psalm 140: 3) hath devoured your prophets,(means godly people), like a destroying lion. O generation, see ye the word of the LORD. Have I been a wilderness unto Israel? a land of darkness? wherefore say, my people, We are lords; we will come no more unto thee?
1Thess 2:15-16 (KJV)Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their prophets and have persecuted us; they please not God and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
and those guys who are into perdition by their own choice
we are persecuted because the truth is not in them
we are persecuted because the truth is not in them
Last edited:
Frankenstein
Diamond Member
- Oct 28, 2022
- 11,117
- 7,391
- 1,938
Correct, to tell them their lifestyle will cost them eternity is LOVE
Cougarbear
Gold Member
- Jan 29, 2022
- 12,072
- 5,838
- 208
Jesus Christ wasn't afraid to tell people when they were sinning. He offered a better alternative to what they were doing. We can then do the same. Yes, some will attack us emotionally and personally. It comes with the charge of being a servant of the Lord.
OneIsTheWord
Gold Member
- Jan 29, 2022
- 1,116
- 228
- 138
- Thread starter
- #29
sometimes people need the hard truth
Put on the whole armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil
.The Days of Evil
Put on the whole armor of God, so that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil
.The Days of Evil
Last edited:
Frankenstein
Diamond Member
- Oct 28, 2022
- 11,117
- 7,391
- 1,938
Correct, and I do not just willy nilly point the finger, and charge them with being sinners, in the right setting, or when asked I will simply tell them the truth
forkintheroad7
Platinum Member
- Apr 22, 2024
- 3,794
- 2,229
- 928
No one can accuse you of not loving Scripture.. LOL
Thanks. We all need to read Scripture every day. . and I mean EVERY day
We are so weak and stupid and sinful... Even once a day is not sufficient.. I don't like the changes the Catholic Church has had to go through since the hideous "reforms" of Vatican II... and yet at the Mass, Scripture is still read... one or 2 passages from the Old and one or 2 from the New --read every day, not just on Sunday..
God knows how to preserve His Church (though probably 90% of the current clergy and about the same %age of parishioners [?} are on their way to Hell) Jesus said most people end up there (Mt 7, Lk 13)
Carl in Michigan
Diamond Member
- Aug 15, 2016
- 61,052
- 46,188
- 3,615
"EVERY knee shall bow .."
“Every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father”.
Last edited:
Carl in Michigan
Diamond Member
- Aug 15, 2016
- 61,052
- 46,188
- 3,615
Admit you are Matthew the cross dresser
Stryder50
Platinum Member
Wait until you delve into the Islamic version.
Makes the "Cult Christian nonsense" pale in comparison.
No Allah, No Peace
Know Allah, Know Peace
Allah Akbar!
luiza
Diamond Member
Agreed, though all Abrahamic Cult Religions are on the brink of extinction .
At long last Control and Guilt will be importantly reduced for the poor Sheeple .
Meriweather
Not all who wander are lost
- Oct 21, 2014
- 20,266
- 4,363
- 165
What is the centerpiece of our faith? What drops right into the arms of God? It is not the bells and whistles. For example, the online Masses I attended, and then the Masses I could attend (in another state) reminded me of the way Mass was said when I was a child. For example, when Mass began, Father walked ahead of everyone else, he faced the altar, leading everyone in prayer. Often he read all the readings, he certainly read the Gospel. I miss that. Most often in the church I attend today, there is a huge procession of people at the beginning of Mass. Altar servers, readers, Eucharistic Ministers, ushers, etc. and Father is almost unnoticed at the back of the crowd. He gets to the altar, and faces us, not the altar. He does nothing, sometimes he is not even the one who reads the Gospel or gives the homily. He's just on the "stage". This arrangement disappoints me; I don't like it. But guess what. The procession into Church has nothing to do with my faith--or even the Mass if we come right down to it. Vatican II thought it was a great idea to show people were involved in the Mass. Instead of being followers, we were to demonstrate leadership. I get it, but to me it says "Look at me" not look at Christ.
However, the Mass is my faith, it is God in our midst, the teachings are central, the Sacrifice of the Mass ongoing not only in Church but in my life.
The other thing COVID did for me was to introduce me into some brilliant online studies of Catholicism, the Bible, the Catechism, and touching homilies that reach into our lives, into my heart.
No matter how great my disappointment is with the bells and whistles no one has ever brought me closer to Christ than the Catholic faith. I've just learned to fill in the edges with the Internet.
OneIsTheWord
Gold Member
- Jan 29, 2022
- 1,116
- 228
- 138
- Thread starter
- #37
Greetings
And how many are under the Law
Woodznutz
Platinum Member
- Dec 9, 2021
- 26,331
- 13,018
- 973
Without God calling you to belief, you won't believe. All is well.
Woodznutz
Platinum Member
- Dec 9, 2021
- 26,331
- 13,018
- 973
What news?
Similar threads
New Topics
-
the average price for a gallon of gas is down over 50 cents a gallon compared to one yr ago at this time !- Started by yidnar
- Replies: 0
-
Shri Thanedar- Can foreigners really impeach the peoples President?- Started by BrokeLoser
- Replies: 7
-
More anti-DEI shareholder proposals fail at Goldman Sachs, Levi's- Started by C_Clayton_Jones
- Replies: 4
-
-
