This is why you shouldn't pay burger flippers 15 an hour

[Billy_Kinetta]

These are not career activities, nor are they worth a $30,000 annual salary.

It's 2016! Somebody should tell this guy that a $30,000 annual salary is not a lot of money.

It's a lot of money for flipping burgers.

 

[tyroneweaver]

I don't think we should pay one man at the top 1,500,000 bucks per year! At least the burger flipper is doing the hard work.

quite printing more money. that's the way to stop the rich from getting richer

 

[sealybobo]

W

I'll tell you "people" something. I don't work in fast food, but people who do, do a lot more then "flip burgers". That's a term used by those who are clueless

If you visit a Toyota or Honda plant down south you will see high paid Walmart workers and burger flippers who work for a company that fears the workers will unionize.

Fast food workers need to unite.

A couple of years ago VW told it's plant workers in the US to go ahead and have a vote whether the workers wanted to unionize. If they did then VW would endorse their decision. The workers overwhelmingly rejected to unionize.
People who work in FF businesses as a means of permanent long term employment do not have the education/IQ/skills to do anything else. Some are a perfect fit for the jobs they are hired to do. Some can't even be counted on to sweep the floor properly.
I once owned a restaurant. Before I opened I found my biggest problem was hiring decent clean honest staff.
I literally went to every restaurant and FF business in a five mile radius to 'head-hunt' the best staff I could find.
I ate at these restaurants a few times. I observed how the staff behaved. What their fingernails looked like (one of the most important things to watch for when hiring anyone for any job BTW), how they dressed and what their posture was etc.
When I found someone I thought was a potential employee I waited until they had left where they were working. I then approached them and explained who I was and why I wanted to have a few minutes of their time. This worked almost every time.

BTW the reason they were willing to leave their current jobs was because I offered them four bucks an hour more than they were making.

. Wow 4 bucks an hour more than they were making ? It sounds like you had done extensive research on the potential employee, and that they would be well worth the investment. Good for you, and I hope it was very prosperous for you. I agree that there are many factors to look at when hiring the right people for a job, but the idiot left has this mentality to leave no man behind, and it is the same mentality that haunts them and their being taken seriously in life.. I remember when hair nets were an absolute must when cooking and handling peoples food, but where do you see that anymore ? I have seen in these McDonald's employee's wearing these jamacan looking hair styles, and if anyone knows these styles, you don't wash your hair because the style will ruin if you do. Now how are resteraunts allowing it's customers to be abused like this ? Supply and demand chains that are found in industry today, has led the feds to push their agenda on corporations to force them to hire people in their industries being based upon political correctness, and anti-discrimination laws that have been taken to the extreme these days. We the people are being extremely abused by government and these corporations who are the lap dogs of government these days. Chic-filet is one of the most profitable resteraunt chain out there these days, and it's because it chose not to be PC, and instead did what was right as it should have. We as a people allowed the corps to become monopolies, and when they did we got screwed over badly by them and our government. Minimum wage should only be an entrance wage in which should quicky change soon after the employee proves to be a long term employee who will be a potential for the company worked for in the long term.... Minimum wage should keep up with inflation, but it should not be relied upon as a long term wage by anyone. The minimum should have a bottom it should not go lower than, but it should also have a top out in the minimum amount given during the training period. Minimum wage should be customized to each type of business out there, where as a one size fits all should never apply. Socialism, and big brother being to involved is not ever the answer, and we will end up faltering with all the craziness going on today in America.

An old Jew once said "in order to make profit you must 'buy right'".
The 'buy-right' in my case was to hire only the very best and pay them accordingly.
I never had any problem with my staff stealing, not showing up for work, coming to work stoned and or drunk, fighting with other staff, being rude to the customers.
I had the restaurant for four years and sold it for a good profit.
That was 25 years ago. Other restaurant/ff business owners thought I was crazy to pay my staff so much.
Ya crazy like a fox.
Before I sold the restaurant I even screened the buyer. I had to be positive he had the same philosophy about only hiring the very best and paying them accordingly. He still owes the business.
Today the restaurant is doing fine and some of the staff I hired are still working there.
If any of you have ever eaten at a Michelin star restaurant the first thing you notice when you walk in the door is the quality of the staff.
I been to lots of FF restaurants as I'm sure many of you have.
Some are fucking filthy dumps. Some you can eat off the floor. Guess which ones are making a profit?

My brother is a hiring VP and he believes in paying more not less too. God bless you for having a brain and heart

 

[beagle9]

These are not career activities, nor are they worth a $30,000 annual salary.

It's 2016! Somebody should tell this guy that a $30,000 annual salary is not a lot of money.

. Well would you feel for your young lawn mowing feller who is just starting out the same way ? That is the perspective most are comparing hamburger flipping jobs to I think. Instead of mowing lawns for extra cash, the youth are flipping burgers these days. Hmm 30 grand a year to mow lawns maybe ? I think I'm fixing to get the old push mower back out, and hang that old gallon milk jug for gas back on the handle bars again..

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

 

[Mr Natural]

These are not career activities, nor are they worth a $30,000 annual salary.

It's 2016! Somebody should tell this guy that a $30,000 annual salary is not a lot of money.

It's a lot of money for flipping burgers.

Maybe if you live in Gooberville it is.

 

[tigerred59]

Only in America, can a rich white guy, with orange skin, ie Trump who by the way, and others like him are the reason wages in this country hasn't caught up with inflation and the cost of living since the late 60's, convince stupid ignorant white people that its Obama's the black guys fought, life now sucks in america...LOLOLOL. Not these rich white mf's, these CEO's, the Wall street fucks, who keep their white ass's out of the middle class....endlessly. Truth be told, if this country stayed with the cost of living, min. wage should be about 20 bucks an hour.

80% of the jobs in this country are all service industry jobs, just about....and that includes the burger flippers that I hope spit on your shit when you come in, moron.

You know why all those good jobs got shipped overseas??? Free trade. Which the DEMOCRATS brought upon us.

That's right. Democrats wanted 3rd world shitholes to get all our jobs....then imported tens of millions of low skill immigrants.

So when your fellow black males age 18-35 can't find entry level work outside of McDonald's and WalMart.....now you know why.

The North American Free Trade Agreement: Ronald Reagan's Vision Realized

The NAFTA win is a great victory for free trade conservatives. It was they who first championed the notion of free trade with Mexico. And it is they who will carry the banner of free trade in the future -- a banner under which even Bill Clinton now marches.

Get Heritage Foundation...November 23, 1993

Two white presidential shit heads that sold the middle class to Asia for a buck!!

 

[beagle9]

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

. Minimum wage should be an entrance pay only... If can't move up from that, then find something one can move up from... Not all jobs are suitable to everyone, so stopping the search is to just give up and become stagnant... This is a bad way to be in life, but it should pressure one to do better, and not to expect the government to come to the rescue. That has become a major problem these days.

 

[tigerred59]

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

Hey white guy, if your options are that vast, then why are you fuck heads whining about taking back your country? You guys are such fuckin hypocrites.

 

[tyroneweaver]

As far as the OP title for this thread goes, my response is, the $15 an hour wage increase that was recently implemented for California is an inflation issue. I doubt the OP lives in L.A. because he ought to check out rent cost there. And gas and groceries for that matter. Just try and make it on less and you will be one of the many homeless living on the streets there mumbling to themselves.
Also the link has nothing to connect it to the title of this thread. Apparently the OP has access to a pc and the internet but has little or no knowledge as to make a valuable contribution to this message board.

Thx for proving my point. Your 2 cents is duly noted.

 

[beagle9]

The government should only seek to embarrass companies who do wrong, and to suggest boycotts and hold back government perks, but never tell a company what it wants it to do by force. Negotiations between companies and government should always be the norm, but never ending with government directly forcing a company into submission unless the company is breaking the laws.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

Hey white guy, if your options are that vast, then why are you fuck heads whining about taking back your country? You guys are such fuckin hypocrites.

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

Hey white guy, if your options are that vast, then why are you fuck heads whining about taking back your country? You guys are such fuckin hypocrites.

So, are they going to make you pay for the windows you broke?

 

[jasonnfree]

Only in America, can a rich white guy, with orange skin, ie Trump who by the way, and others like him are the reason wages in this country hasn't caught up with inflation and the cost of living since the late 60's, convince stupid ignorant white people that its Obama's the black guys fought, life now sucks in america...LOLOLOL. Not these rich white mf's, these CEO's, the Wall street fucks, who keep their white ass's out of the middle class....endlessly. Truth be told, if this country stayed with the cost of living, min. wage should be about 20 bucks an hour.

80% of the jobs in this country are all service industry jobs, just about....and that includes the burger flippers that I hope spit on your shit when you come in, moron.

You know why all those good jobs got shipped overseas??? Free trade. Which the DEMOCRATS brought upon us.

That's right. Democrats wanted 3rd world shitholes to get all our jobs....then imported tens of millions of low skill immigrants.

So when your fellow black males age 18-35 can't find entry level work outside of McDonald's and WalMart.....now you know why.

You're right to a point. The first big sellout was bill clinton with nafta. He was the guy who was against free trade as a candidate. Smells a lot like obama, no? Still, clinton had to twist arms to get all the demorats behind him on nafta. Republicans will always eagerly sell out their country for a campaign donation without an argument. Demorats only sell out after being wined and dined and weedled and cajoled into selling out their base, which they always do almost without exception. Look at how easily obama convinced kucinich to sign on to obama crappy care.

 

[Wyatt earp]

As far as the OP title for this thread goes, my response is, the $15 an hour wage increase that was recently implemented for California is an inflation issue. I doubt the OP lives in L.A. because he ought to check out rent cost there. And gas and groceries for that matter. Just try and make it on less and you will be one of the many homeless living on the streets there mumbling to themselves.
Also the link has nothing to connect it to the title of this thread. Apparently the OP has access to a pc and the internet but has little or no knowledge as to make a valuable contribution to this message board.

And also why illegal rentals are widespread in LA and So. CA in general. And of course the liberal governments there are legalizing grossly improper housing...anything to hide the truth of reality there.

Yes this is not a new issue with property in So. Cal. or happening elsewhere. Anyway someone can come up with to make more money and dodge tax assessments the better right?
To have to see what amounts to subletting an apartment or condo is distressing to regular owners for their neighbors. There is an issue that needs some addressing there. but if you can only find work in a fast food restaurant to survive then the wage should reflect the cost of living for the area. If not there may have to be some sort of mass housing like that used in China to support workers in proximity to the jobs. But i don't see America going in that direction. At least this isn't a totalitarian society just yet. THX 1138 comes to mind.

Going back to the old democrat/socialist/communist stand by- segeration, prisons?

Housing projects don't work.See the old cabrini green and Robert taylor homes in Chicago~ just prisions for the poor

Robert Taylor Homes public-housing project

Robert Taylor Homes would be humane replacements for slums was starting to crack. Many of the high-rise complexes were poorly constructed. Unemployment at CHA developments ran as high as 90 percent, and residents were at least twice as likely to be the victims of serious crime as other Chicagoans. The concentration of the poorest of the poor transformed Chicago's public housing into a national emblem of the failures of government-run shelter.

While many of the CHA's high-rises were built at a time when the civil rights movement seemed to be striking blows for racial and economic equality, Chicago and many other cities were sowing the seeds of an underclass of mostly black citizens who seemed consigned to live their lives in these vertical ghettos. James Weston and his family moved out of the Taylor project after five years, but that was a rare example of public housing serving as a stopping place on the way to a better life. Admitting the failure of densely packed high-rises, the CHA began demolishing buildings at Cabrini-Green and Henry Horner Homes in 1995 and is razing many more.

 

[dannyboys]

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

. Minimum wage should be an entrance pay only... If can't move up from that, then find something one can move up from... Not all jobs are suitable to everyone, so stopping the search is to just give up and become stagnant... This is a bad way to be in life, but it should pressure one to do better, and not to expect the government to come to the rescue. That has become a major problem these days.

The country is going down the financial/social drain.
The Industrial revolution destroyed the negro labor based cotton industry just as it created tens of thousands of jobs in the 'rust belt' at the same time.
Tens of thousands of negroes left the South and ended up working in the manufacturing industry.
China and India woke up. Their basically slave labor destroyed the US manufacturing industry leaving hundreds of thousands of semi-literate people without a way to make a living in the US.
Combine that with a fucking farce education system almost exclusively controlled by LIB unions which 'streams' kids who don't know how to read or write by the hundreds of thousands, who also have zero chance to ever get a decent paying job and this is where the country is at now.
Anyone who believes the US economy can magically go back to what it was a few decades ago is delusional.
If I had any kids in the school system today I would make damn sure they were actually learning something. When they graduated actually knowing how to read and write I'd move heaven and earth to get them into good trade schools. Forget the Liberal Indoctrination Centers AKA colleges and universities. No one gives a shit about what medieval footwear looked like and they aren't going to pay anyone to find out.
Everyone needs an electrician or a plumber.

 

[sealybobo]

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

Yea but here's the problem. Obama has had a record 70 plus months of job growth but it is true a lot of those jobs have been low paying jobs. And all the profits are going to the people on top. So clearly it is the poorest among us that need a raise.

Consider a lot of people struggling are people who are starting their own business'. They need affordable healthcare. It's a lot easier to start a business in Canada because you don't have to worry about you and your employees healthcare.

In a way I agree with you though. And if you can't make it then don't breed.

 

[tigerred59]

I'll tell you "people" something. I don't work in fast food, but people who do, do a lot more then "flip burgers". That's a term used by those who are clueless

Its the 3rd thread on this one topic...you wonder what kind of "kick" conservative shit bags get out of attacking the poor. I mean, I understand they were never loved as kids but surely even people as dense as this can see they are repeating the cycle.

Here, here, I will never ever ever ever understand a people so drenched in Christian values, so wrapped up in Bible quotes and God, who spend every waking hour of their motherfuckin day, hating on minorities, women and the poor and wanting to take from them anything that has a tax dollar attached to it, as if these mindless dust balls are the only people in the country that work and pay taxes. Now, either these people are just fuck'd up in the head and don't know any better, or these is some serious crazy mf's that need some real Christian value shoved up their ass's.

 

[sealybobo]

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

. Minimum wage should be an entrance pay only... If can't move up from that, then find something one can move up from... Not all jobs are suitable to everyone, so stopping the search is to just give up and become stagnant... This is a bad way to be in life, but it should pressure one to do better, and not to expect the government to come to the rescue. That has become a major problem these days.

The country is going down the financial/social drain.
The Industrial revolution destroyed the negro labor based cotton industry just as it created tens of thousands of jobs in the 'rust belt' at the same time.
Tens of thousands of negroes left the South and ended up working in the manufacturing industry.
China and India woke up. Their basically slave labor destroyed the US manufacturing industry leaving hundreds of thousands of semi-literate people without a way to make a living in the US.
Combine that with a fucking farce education system almost exclusively controlled by LIB unions which 'streams' kids who don't know how to read or write by the hundreds of thousands, who also have zero chance to ever get a decent paying job and this is where the country is at now.
Anyone who believes the US economy can magically go back to what it was a few decades ago is delusional.
If I had any kids in the school system today I would make damn sure they were actually learning something. When they graduated actually knowing how to read and write I'd move heaven and earth to get them into good trade schools. Forget the Liberal Indoctrination Centers AKA colleges and universities. No one gives a shit about what medieval footwear looked like and they aren't going to pay anyone to find out.
Everyone needs an electrician or a plumber.

1. It amazes me the poor just keep on pumping out kids. When the economy took a dump birth rates went down in the middle class but not in the poor communities. Middle class people don't have more kids when they can't afford them because they don't want to be poor. The poormust not think it matters when it does. I can't understand someone trying to have a family in a ghetto. Why didn't James move the family out of the ghetto? Why did he have 3 kids? And at least he raised them right.

2. My bro went to msu and got a masters and is now a vp of a fortune 500. You would have sent him to plumbers school.

 

[sealybobo]

Gee I wonder if they opened the doors before they went outside. A bell shoulda gone off right then. sheesh
The reporter was about equally dumb. I guess air is technically a gas

Burger King employees smash windows following prank call

idiota, they were told it was the fire department and the place would blow up unless they let out the gas from a purported leak.

i figure you're worth about 4 cents an hour, but i still support your right to be able to feed, house and clothe yourself if you work a 40 hour week.

now run along like a good little winger

I excercised my right to learn a trade that is worth more than minimum wage.

. Minimum wage should be an entrance pay only... If can't move up from that, then find something one can move up from... Not all jobs are suitable to everyone, so stopping the search is to just give up and become stagnant... This is a bad way to be in life, but it should pressure one to do better, and not to expect the government to come to the rescue. That has become a major problem these days.

The country is going down the financial/social drain.
The Industrial revolution destroyed the negro labor based cotton industry just as it created tens of thousands of jobs in the 'rust belt' at the same time.
Tens of thousands of negroes left the South and ended up working in the manufacturing industry.
China and India woke up. Their basically slave labor destroyed the US manufacturing industry leaving hundreds of thousands of semi-literate people without a way to make a living in the US.
Combine that with a fucking farce education system almost exclusively controlled by LIB unions which 'streams' kids who don't know how to read or write by the hundreds of thousands, who also have zero chance to ever get a decent paying job and this is where the country is at now.
Anyone who believes the US economy can magically go back to what it was a few decades ago is delusional.
If I had any kids in the school system today I would make damn sure they were actually learning something. When they graduated actually knowing how to read and write I'd move heaven and earth to get them into good trade schools. Forget the Liberal Indoctrination Centers AKA colleges and universities. No one gives a shit about what medieval footwear looked like and they aren't going to pay anyone to find out.
Everyone needs an electrician or a plumber.

Look around you. What's wrong with your neighbors? Are they not raising their kids right? Did they not see jobs were leaving the country? Did they argue Mexicans were just here doing jobs Americans won't do? Are your neighborhoods no longer safe?

Most of this "the worlds going to hell shit is bs. What needs to change you don't want to change. Pay people more money and everyone's happy. Trickle down doesn't work.

And really the economy is back. We have never in the history of America had this many weeks in a row of job growth.

 

[charwin95]

I'll tell you "people" something. I don't work in fast food, but people who do, do a lot more then "flip burgers". That's a term used by those who are clueless

If you visit a Toyota or Honda plant down south you will see high paid Walmart workers and burger flippers who work for a company that fears the workers will unionize.

Fast food workers need to unite.

A couple of years ago VW told it's plant workers in the US to go ahead and have a vote whether the workers wanted to unionize. If they did then VW would endorse their decision. The workers overwhelmingly rejected to unionize.
People who work in FF businesses as a means of permanent long term employment do not have the education/IQ/skills to do anything else. Some are a perfect fit for the jobs they are hired to do. Some can't even be counted on to sweep the floor properly.
I once owned a restaurant. Before I opened I found my biggest problem was hiring decent clean honest staff.
I literally went to every restaurant and FF business in a five mile radius to 'head-hunt' the best staff I could find.
I ate at these restaurants a few times. I observed how the staff behaved. What their fingernails looked like (one of the most important things to watch for when hiring anyone for any job BTW), how they dressed and what their posture was etc.
When I found someone I thought was a potential employee I waited until they had left where they were working. I then approached them and explained who I was and why I wanted to have a few minutes of their time. This worked almost every time.

BTW the reason they were willing to leave their current jobs was because I offered them four bucks an hour more than they were making.

Did you check their green card?