Thom Brennaman, Reds Announcer fired after calling Kansas City "the fag capital of the world"

[RodISHI]

36 year career is over

Reds Announcer Is Suspended After Using Homophobic Slur on Air (Published 2020)

The announcer, Thom Brennaman, apologized for his remarks, and said, “I don’t know if I’m going to be putting on this headset again.”

www.nytimes.com

I thought it was either San Francisco or Chicago???

More gay people in NYC than there are people total...in SF!

More mandated vaccines earlier than California perhaps? Probably other factors in that also.

Altering DNA by early vaccines, chemicals and such. I don't have the links offhand but they are out there if it is a subject that peaks your interest.

 

[toobfreak]

Sure sure, no one minded any of the racial, ethnic, religious, or sexual slurs tossed about in your youth. Everyone was perfectly happy being insulted by anyone at any time, everyone just looked at it as a joke and laughed.

Yep. Because no one was offended, it wasn't like we ran up to japanese and yelled Hey Jap! Hey Gook! This was just slang used in personal conversation. What one might call colloquialisms. There was no hate, no offense intended, it was just part of the parlance of the times.

Just yesterday I was watching a rerun of the old 1975 game show "The Match Game" where the host Gene Rayburn and all six Hollywood panelists were doing "Japanese" imitations "taking like Japs" doing the stereotypical "Jap talk" anyone would recognize as a Jap where you substitute L's for all of your R's, in regards to one of the game questions being asked.

This went on for several minutes, everyone on stage was laughing and the whole studio audience was howling. There were no boos, no tears, no one walked out or filed a lawsuit.

Because back then, people knew how to laugh at themselves. No one took things so serious. The problem isn't familiar slang being taken as a "racial slur," the problem is idiots like you making it such an issue.

Did the term Jap begin as a common term, or was it used as a racial slur and became a common term? How about Gook? Or fag, which is what the thread began with?

Jap was used as a slur during WWII. I don't know if gook has ever been anything but a derogatory word. Fag has certainly been used as a slur for a long time in this country.

Maybe "back then" you were in a position to use ethnic or racial slurs without repercussion, so it seemed to you as if everyone was OK with it. Maybe you didn't see or notice people who were offended by the terms. Maybe those people hid the offense they felt. I have no idea. On the other hand, I feel pretty confident that the people those various terms were created to insult didn't all feel happy about their common usage.

Sure, some people might get overly offended. Some people look for offense in everything. But you know, some people are happy to offend and/or remain willfully oblivious to when they give offense.

I wonder what other insults and slurs you think ought to still be used commonly?

You seem to miss the point that originally, slang such as Japs used to be used to UNITE our country against a common enemy, us against them. It helped forge this nation into the strongest nation on the planet. Today, there is no such illusion of unity. Instead, slang is still used, but to divide us. We are divided easily by simply using different standards for different groups, by banning the word n*gg*r (see, I bet I can't even use that here and would be loathe to try) EVEN THOUGH BLACKS ROUTINELY USE IT THEMSELVES, OPENLY, and why? Because they protested that it offended them, yet I see a thousand hateful offensive things thrown about everyday, derisions of Trump, Trump supporters, anyone even remotely thought to be a Trump supporter, etc., republicans, gun owners, religious people, traditional values, yet despite the outcry of protests against such hateful and offensive language, a DIFFERENT STANDARD is used and not another word is thought about it.

Right now, millions and millions of ordinary people are being offended by slang, derision and offensive language, all in the name of protecting another group from offensive language. And we are not even allowed to talk about or debate it.

There is no uniting this country against a common enemy any more. This nation can't even agree who their enemy is. Many of the people in this country think AMERICA is the enemy, its own people, is fighting against itself, and that is why this country is falling.

We pay far more attention to words today than we do our real, concrete, actual problems. And you are the living proof.

 

[Marion Morrison]

36 year career is over

Reds Announcer Is Suspended After Using Homophobic Slur on Air (Published 2020)

The announcer, Thom Brennaman, apologized for his remarks, and said, “I don’t know if I’m going to be putting on this headset again.”

www.nytimes.com

Did they become San Francisco or something?

 

[Montrovant]

Sure sure, no one minded any of the racial, ethnic, religious, or sexual slurs tossed about in your youth. Everyone was perfectly happy being insulted by anyone at any time, everyone just looked at it as a joke and laughed.

Yep. Because no one was offended, it wasn't like we ran up to japanese and yelled Hey Jap! Hey Gook! This was just slang used in personal conversation. What one might call colloquialisms. There was no hate, no offense intended, it was just part of the parlance of the times.

Just yesterday I was watching a rerun of the old 1975 game show "The Match Game" where the host Gene Rayburn and all six Hollywood panelists were doing "Japanese" imitations "taking like Japs" doing the stereotypical "Jap talk" anyone would recognize as a Jap where you substitute L's for all of your R's, in regards to one of the game questions being asked.

This went on for several minutes, everyone on stage was laughing and the whole studio audience was howling. There were no boos, no tears, no one walked out or filed a lawsuit.

Because back then, people knew how to laugh at themselves. No one took things so serious. The problem isn't familiar slang being taken as a "racial slur," the problem is idiots like you making it such an issue.

Did the term Jap begin as a common term, or was it used as a racial slur and became a common term? How about Gook? Or fag, which is what the thread began with?

Jap was used as a slur during WWII. I don't know if gook has ever been anything but a derogatory word. Fag has certainly been used as a slur for a long time in this country.

Maybe "back then" you were in a position to use ethnic or racial slurs without repercussion, so it seemed to you as if everyone was OK with it. Maybe you didn't see or notice people who were offended by the terms. Maybe those people hid the offense they felt. I have no idea. On the other hand, I feel pretty confident that the people those various terms were created to insult didn't all feel happy about their common usage.

Sure, some people might get overly offended. Some people look for offense in everything. But you know, some people are happy to offend and/or remain willfully oblivious to when they give offense.

I wonder what other insults and slurs you think ought to still be used commonly?

You seem to miss the point that originally, slang such as Japs used to be used to UNITE our country against a common enemy, us against them. It helped forge this nation into the strongest nation on the planet. Today, there is no such illusion of unity. Instead, slang is still used, but to divide us. We are divided easily by simply using different standards for different groups, by banning the word n*gg*r (see, I bet I can't even use that here and would be loathe to try) EVEN THOUGH BLACKS ROUTINELY USE IT THEMSELVES, OPENLY, and why? Because they protested that it offended them, yet I see a thousand hateful offensive things thrown about everyday, derisions of Trump, Trump supporters, anyone even remotely thought to be a Trump supporter, etc., republicans, gun owners, religious people, traditional values, yet despite the outcry of protests against such hateful and offensive language, a DIFFERENT STANDARD is used and not another word is thought about it.

Right now, millions and millions of ordinary people are being offended by slang, derision and offensive language, all in the name of protecting another group from offensive language. And we are not even allowed to talk about or debate it.

There is no uniting this country against a common enemy any more. This nation can't even agree who their enemy is. Many of the people in this country think AMERICA is the enemy, its own people, is fighting against itself, and that is why this country is falling.

We pay far more attention to words today than we do our real, concrete, actual problems. And you are the living proof.

The problem is that part of the "us" in the country were people of Japanese origin. We were so united against the Japs that we put Japanese Americans into internment camps. Is that the history behind the word you want to use to justify its use?

I have never agreed with the transformation of n*gger to nigga, trying to make it an acceptable word, but only when used by some people. I'm not going to argue with you on that one.

There is a difference between making fun of an individual for the things that person says or does and using generalized ethnic slurs. If you can't see that, it's pretty sad. Derision of Trump is not the same as using the term gook, for example, unless that derision of Trump is through the use of a similar generalized slur. Derision of Trump supporters is also different unless it's through the use of similar terms. The whole point of this conversation we're having is that certain terms are inherently insults. Maybe you could argue terms like deplorables are similar, but just saying one dislikes Trump supports (or Biden supporters) is a far cry from calling someone a Jap, or gook, or fag.

I am living proof of paying more attention to words than problems? Because I'm spending some time talking about the use of slurs on a message board? OK captain hyperbole. You are doing the same thing, so I guess you, too, are living proof of that concept.

You sure are putting a lot of effort into arguing that you should be able to use ethnic and racial slurs, aren't you?

 

[Taz]

36 year career is over

Reds Announcer Is Suspended After Using Homophobic Slur on Air (Published 2020)

The announcer, Thom Brennaman, apologized for his remarks, and said, “I don’t know if I’m going to be putting on this headset again.”

www.nytimes.com

I thought wherever you live is the fag capital of America.