Time for Reparations to the Irish

[IM2]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Show me an Irishman who had his children sold off or was whipped

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100s Of Thousands Of Irish Slaves Were Brought To The New World By England

The Forgotten History Of The Irish Sold Into Slavery

"What captivity has been to the Jews, exile has been to the Irish. For us, the romance of our native

knowledgenuts.com

Read the book White Cargo, tragic

People forget every race has been involved in buying and selling slaves. Again, holding present day people responsible for the past makes no sense. It is a tool to divide people.

The Irish worked through it, some others not so much

No, the Irish were white and benefitted from being white.

Was being white their choice somehow? Did you chose to be Black?

Yes in fact they made that choice.

“In the early years of immigration the poor Irish and blacks were thrown together, very much part of the same class competing for the same jobs. In the census of 1850, the term mulatto appears for the first time due primarily to inter-marriage between Irish and African Americans. The Irish were often referred to as Negroes turned inside out and Negroes as smoked Irish. A famous quip of the time attributed to a black man went something like this: "My master is a great tyrant, he treats me like a common Irishman." Free blacks and Irish were viewed by the Nativists as related, somehow similar, performing the same tasks in society. It was felt that if amalgamation between the races was to happen, it would happen between Irish and blacks. But, ultimately, the Irish made the decision to embrace whiteness, thus becoming part of the system which dominated and oppressed blacks. Although it contradicted their experience back home, it meant freedom here since blackness meant slavery.

An article by a black writer in an 1860 edition of the Liberator explained how the Irish ultimately attained their objectives: "Fifteen or twenty years ago, a Catholic priest in Philadelphia said to the Irish people in that city, 'You are all poor, and chiefly laborers, the blacks are poor laborers; many of the native whites are laborers; now, if you wish to succeed, you must do everything that they do, no matter how degrading, and do it for less than they can afford to do it for.' The Irish adopted this plan; they lived on less than the Americans could live upon, and worked for less, and the result is, that nearly all the menial employments are monopolized by the Irish, who now get as good prices as anybody. There were other avenues open to American white men, and though they have suffered much, the chief support of the Irish has come from the places from which we have been crowded."

Once the Irish secured themselves in those jobs, they made sure blacks were kept out. They realized that as long as they continued to work alongside blacks, they would be considered no different. Later, as Irish became prominent in the labor movement, African Americans were excluded from participation. In fact, one of the primary themes of How the Irish Became White is the way in which left labor historians, such as the highly acclaimed Herbert Gutman, have not paid sufficient attention to the problem of race in the development of the labor movement.

And so, we have the tragic story of how one oppressed "race," Irish Catholics, learned how to collaborate in the oppression of another "race," Africans in America, in order to secure their place in the white republic. Becoming white meant losing their greenness, i.e., their Irish cultural heritage and the legacy of oppression and discrimination back home.”

Art McDonald, Ph.D., “How the Irish Became White”​

Let's cut to the chase you are born the color you are born with. What can't you understand about that? There is no choice in the matter.

Let's cut to the chase, Irish and other white ethnic groups chose to deny other of opportunity because of the color they were born with. And today they still do.

What a wicked victim you are, not. If you want do anything about it stop voting for Democrats because you are nothing but a plaything for them.

Don't try that victim shit with me. Face the truth and grow as a human being.

You play the victim card again, again, again, again....

So black folks demanding reparations is playing the victim card, but the Irish demanding reparations is righting a wrong. Smfh.

She's ignorant. That's why she is a female and a racist. White women with good sense understand what women have endured only dumb women are like this one.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Yes. The Irishman who was sick or injured was left to starve or live on whatever charity was available. He was disposable, a slave was valuable to his owner and would never be left to starve if injured. Frame it any way you want, voluntary immigrants were disposable, expensive slaves were not.

How many Irish were beaten, tortured, whipped, chained, raped, children taken away from them? I could go on but what would be the use, only a fool believes that a man brought here under his free will had it worse than a man who was brought here in chains.

I posted three articles that will give you an idea. Try reading them.

I read your articles, so I ask you again did a man who came here voluntarily have it worse than a more who was forced to come here in chains?

That does not apply when some Irish were slaves. That means they went where they were told. A lot did not end up in the US.

So the Irish that came here came in chains, half naked and were sold on auction blocks.

 

[westwall]

China has a monopoly on rare earth mining because they use slave labor.

And because senator Feinstein set it up for her husband to control the importation of those elements from China.

Convenient, isn't it.

 

[IM2]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Yes. The Irishman who was sick or injured was left to starve or live on whatever charity was available. He was disposable, a slave was valuable to his owner and would never be left to starve if injured. Frame it any way you want, voluntary immigrants were disposable, expensive slaves were not.

How many Irish were beaten, tortured, whipped, chained, raped, children taken away from them? I could go on but what would be the use, only a fool believes that a man brought here under his free will had it worse than a man who was brought here in chains.

I posted three articles that will give you an idea. Try reading them.

You are simply lying about this matter.

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),

Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Eoin O'Carroll, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas, Christian Science Monitor, March 16, 2018, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,

How the Irish Became White

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Show me an Irishman who had his children sold off or was whipped

AOH Florida State Board is under construction

Friendship, Unity, and Christian Charity from the Sunshine State

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100s Of Thousands Of Irish Slaves Were Brought To The New World By England

The Forgotten History Of The Irish Sold Into Slavery

"What captivity has been to the Jews, exile has been to the Irish. For us, the romance of our native

knowledgenuts.com

Read the book White Cargo, tragic

People forget every race has been involved in buying and selling slaves. Again, holding present day people responsible for the past makes no sense. It is a tool to divide people.

The Irish worked through it, some others not so much

No, the Irish were white and benefitted from being white.

Yeah, White Privilege: work or starve.

Work or starve is the choice we all have now.

The Irish just like every other white ethnic group in this country, chose to unite around skin color and deny rights to those who were not white.

You are an idiot. Show me anyone in the USA that is starving. It just doesn't happen, even the homeless don't starve.

pretty much. Poor people in other countries pick food out of the garbage. Here poor people have flatscreens and smart phones

How many poor people's homes have you been in?

growing up quiet a few. As an adult never. Is there a point to the question?

Did most of them have flat screens in their homes?

 

[Rocko]

Time for Reparations to the Irish

They'll just use the money to buy more booze.

You got a problem with that?

Do you believe that black folks in America are overdue reparations?

why should anyone be compensated for what their ancestors went through?

So should black folks who suffered through Jim Crow segregation be compensated, since many of us are still alive today.

I don’t believe so, no. What would be the proper compensation for people who lived through those times?

 

[Unkotare]

...How many poor people's homes have you been in?

Many hundreds. What is the point of such a question?

 

[westwall]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Why did Irish get the dangerous jobs and not slaves?

Were they FORCED to do the dangerous jobs or were they PAID to do them?

A measure of both. Do the job, get paid shit wages, and possibly die, or starve.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Time for Reparations to the Irish

They'll just use the money to buy more booze.

You got a problem with that?

Do you believe that black folks in America are overdue reparations?

why should anyone be compensated for what their ancestors went through?

So should black folks who suffered through Jim Crow segregation be compensated, since many of us are still alive today.

I don’t believe so, no. What would be the proper compensation for people who lived through those times?

So now you are moving the goalposts, at first you are saying that the ancestors shouldn't be given reparations for the injustices that were done, now you are saying the folks who lived through the injustices shouldn't be compensated.

 

[Rocko]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Show me an Irishman who had his children sold off or was whipped

AOH Florida State Board is under construction

Friendship, Unity, and Christian Charity from the Sunshine State

www.aohflorida.org

100s Of Thousands Of Irish Slaves Were Brought To The New World By England

The Forgotten History Of The Irish Sold Into Slavery

"What captivity has been to the Jews, exile has been to the Irish. For us, the romance of our native

knowledgenuts.com

Read the book White Cargo, tragic

People forget every race has been involved in buying and selling slaves. Again, holding present day people responsible for the past makes no sense. It is a tool to divide people.

The Irish worked through it, some others not so much

No, the Irish were white and benefitted from being white.

Yeah, White Privilege: work or starve.

Work or starve is the choice we all have now.

The Irish just like every other white ethnic group in this country, chose to unite around skin color and deny rights to those who were not white.

You are an idiot. Show me anyone in the USA that is starving. It just doesn't happen, even the homeless don't starve.

pretty much. Poor people in other countries pick food out of the garbage. Here poor people have flatscreens and smart phones

How many poor people's homes have you been in?

growing up quiet a few. As an adult never. Is there a point to the question?

Did most of them have flat screens in their homes?

in the 80’s and mid 90’s flatscreens weren’t a thing. Now everyone has a flatscreen

 

[westwall]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Show me an Irishman who had his children sold off or was whipped

Reparations must begin immediately.

When America Despised the Irish: The 19th Century’s Refugee Crisis | HISTORY

Forced from their homeland because of famine and political upheaval, the Irish endured vehement discrimination before making their way into the American mainstream.

www.history.com

How do you get reparations for something you were PAID to do?

The same way you get paid for doing nothing and suffering not one tiny little bit.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

...How many poor people's homes have you been in?

Many hundreds. What is the point of such a question?

So you have been through hundreds of poor people's homes, what do you do just walk up to folks houses and walk through.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Show me an Irishman who had his children sold off or was whipped

AOH Florida State Board is under construction

Friendship, Unity, and Christian Charity from the Sunshine State

www.aohflorida.org

100s Of Thousands Of Irish Slaves Were Brought To The New World By England

The Forgotten History Of The Irish Sold Into Slavery

"What captivity has been to the Jews, exile has been to the Irish. For us, the romance of our native

knowledgenuts.com

Read the book White Cargo, tragic

People forget every race has been involved in buying and selling slaves. Again, holding present day people responsible for the past makes no sense. It is a tool to divide people.

The Irish worked through it, some others not so much

No, the Irish were white and benefitted from being white.

Yeah, White Privilege: work or starve.

Work or starve is the choice we all have now.

The Irish just like every other white ethnic group in this country, chose to unite around skin color and deny rights to those who were not white.

You are an idiot. Show me anyone in the USA that is starving. It just doesn't happen, even the homeless don't starve.

pretty much. Poor people in other countries pick food out of the garbage. Here poor people have flatscreens and smart phones

How many poor people's homes have you been in?

growing up quiet a few. As an adult never. Is there a point to the question?

Did most of them have flat screens in their homes?

in the 80’s and mid 90’s flatscreens weren’t a thing. Now everyone has a flatscreen

So if you're poor you shouldn't have a TV. You do know that a flat screen TV is pretty inexpensive today.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Show me an Irishman who had his children sold off or was whipped

Reparations must begin immediately.

When America Despised the Irish: The 19th Century’s Refugee Crisis | HISTORY

Forced from their homeland because of famine and political upheaval, the Irish endured vehement discrimination before making their way into the American mainstream.

www.history.com

How do you get reparations for something you were PAID to do?

The same way you get paid for doing nothing and suffering not one tiny little bit.

Who is receiving that kind of reparations?

 

[Lastamender]

Slavery was institutionalized in the Colonies by the English, the Spanish and every other European country for 200 hundred years. The Confederacy only existed for about 4 years. The last Yankee state to abolish slavery was New Jersey about ten years before the Civil War. The Irish immigrants in the early 1860's were snatched up almost before they left the ship to be used as cannon fodder in the Civil War by the hypocrite North.

So are you saying that the Irish who volunteered to come to America suffered worse than the black folks who were brought to this country in chains.

Yes. The Irishman who was sick or injured was left to starve or live on whatever charity was available. He was disposable, a slave was valuable to his owner and would never be left to starve if injured. Frame it any way you want, voluntary immigrants were disposable, expensive slaves were not.

How many Irish were beaten, tortured, whipped, chained, raped, children taken away from them? I could go on but what would be the use, only a fool believes that a man brought here under his free will had it worse than a man who was brought here in chains.

I posted three articles that will give you an idea. Try reading them.

You are simply lying about this matter.

Liam Hogan, All of my work on the “Irish slaves” meme (2015–’19),

Liam Hogan, Irish slaves’: the convenient myth, ‘Irish slaves’: the convenient myth

Eoin O'Carroll, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas, Christian Science Monitor, March 16, 2018, No, the Irish were not slaves in the Americas

Art McDonald, Ph.D., How the Irish Became White,

How the Irish Became White

Islam took slaves from Ireland and Europe and sold the majority of Black slaves to white traders. You want to blame someone, try them. And your article is bullshit.

 

[Rocko]

Time for Reparations to the Irish

They'll just use the money to buy more booze.

You got a problem with that?

Do you believe that black folks in America are overdue reparations?

why should anyone be compensated for what their ancestors went through?

So should black folks who suffered through Jim Crow segregation be compensated, since many of us are still alive today.

I don’t believe so, no. What would be the proper compensation for people who lived through those times?

So now you are moving the goalposts, at first you are saying that the ancestors shouldn't be given reparations for the injustices that were done, now you are saying the folks who lived through the injustices shouldn't be compensated.

actually the premise of those demanding reparations is because of slavery, which I addressed. You moved the goalposts by bringing up Jim Crow. Furthermore blacks aren’t the only group that has been treated badly by America in the past. Listen I never owned a slave and had nothing to do with segregation, so in my book we’re square.

 

[Unkotare]

...How many poor people's homes have you been in?

Many hundreds. What is the point of such a question?

So you have been through hundreds of poor people's homes, what do you do just walk up to folks houses and walk through.

I have devoted most of my adult working life to serving people who happen to be "poor." Yes, people of all 'colors,' since I know how important that is to racists like you.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Fuk the Irish

A bunch of drunks

LoL

aren’t you Irish

 

[IM2]

why should anyone be compensated for what their ancestors went through?

Reparations go beyond slavery. but before our next lesson understand that you pay native americans every year for what their ancestors went through.

ALL RISE!

This lesson is titled:

BUILT ON SLAVERY-THE MODERN AMERICAN FINANCIAL INDUSTRY

Slaves worked for free. But that did not mean they had no value. Indeed, slaves were literally more valuable than gold. Ned & Constance Sublette wrote “The American Slave Coast: A History of the Slave-Breeding Industry “ the following passage is from a blog titled “A History of the Slave-Breeding Industry in the United States,” by Jason Kottke who quotes from a Pacific Standard review of the book:

“By a conservative estimate, in 1860 the total value of American slaves was $4 billion, far more than the gold and silver then circulating nationally ($228.3 million, “most of it in the North,” the authors add), total currency ($435.4 million), and even the value of the South’s total farmland ($1.92 billion). Slaves were, to slavers, worth more than everything else they could imagine combined.”

Ned & Constance Sublette, The American Slave Coast: A History of the Slave-Breeding Industry​

Slaves were worth more than the total currency plus all the farmland in the South combined yet did not receive a dime. As I write this America has 1.9 trillion dollars of total currency in circulation according to the federal reserve. In 1860 the total value of slaves was 17- and one-half times more than the money circulating in the economy. Giving todays amount of currency in circulation, the same equivalence in comparison to the value of slaves would make slaves worth 33,250,000,000,000 dollars. Remember that slaves were considered property. Because they were, the following activity could occur.

During slavery, more specifically during the 19th century, wealthy slaveowners looking for a way to get additional capital to buy more slaves came up with an idea- slave backed securities. Your eyes are not playing tricks on you. Slaveowners securitized slavery. Cornell professors Edward E. Baptist and Louis Hyman detailed how it was done in an article published by the Chicago Sun-Times on its website dated March 7, 2014. This is from the article:

In the 1830s, powerful Southern slaveowners wanted to import capital into their states so they could buy more slaves. They came up with a new, two-part idea: mortgaging slaves; and then turning the mortgages into bonds that could be marketed all over the world.

First, American planters organized new banks, usually in new states like Mississippi and Louisiana. Drawing up lists of slaves for collateral, the planters then mortgaged them to the banks they had created, enabling themselves to buy additional slaves to expand cotton production. To provide capital for those loans, the banks sold bonds to investors from around the globe — London, New York, Amsterdam, Paris. The bond buyers, many of whom lived in countries where slavery was illegal, didn’t own individual slaves — just bonds backed by their value. Planters’ mortgage payments paid the interest and the principle on these bond payments. Enslaved human beings had been, in modern financial lingo, “securitized.”

As slave-backed mortgages became paper bonds, everybody profited — except, obviously, enslaved African Americans whose forced labor repaid owners’ mortgages. But investors owed a piece of slave-earned income. Older slave states such as Maryland and Virginia sold slaves to the new cotton states, at securitization-inflated prices, resulting in slave asset bubble. Cotton factor firms like the now-defunct Lehman Brothers — founded in Alabama — became wildly successful. Lehman moved to Wall Street, and for all these firms, every transaction in slave-earned money flowing in and out of the U.S. earned Wall Street firms a fee.

The infant American financial industry nourished itself on profits taken from financing slave traders, cotton brokers and underwriting slave-backed bonds. But though slavery ended in 1865, in the years after the Civil War, black entrepreneurs would find themselves excluded from a financial system originally built on their bodies.

Edward E. Baptist and Louis Hyman, American Finance Grew on the Back of Slaves

“Again and again, African-American individuals and families have worked hard to produce wealth, but American finance, whether in the antebellum period or today, has snatched black wealth through bonds backed by asset securitization.”

Edward E. Baptist and Louis Hyman, American Finance Grew on the Back of Slaves
​

Edward E. Baptist and Louis Hyman, American Finance Grew on the Back of Slaves, Chicago Sun-Times.com March 7, 2014, derived from: American Finance Grew on the Back of Slaves

 

[Rocko]

Fuk the Irish

A bunch of drunks

LoL

aren’t you Irish

He’s taking white guilt to the next level lol