Tired of not-winning? ... Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter

The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...

What does this have to do with Trump?

The amount of your refund, is determined by how much you over pay. If you WANT a refund, you just jack up your with-holdings. How dumb is that? I want to be poorer all year long... so I can get a check back from the government?

Hey idiot.... put your money in a savings account, and at the end of the year, you'll have the same amount of money in that account, that you would have had in a refund... except with interest.

And if you have an emergency during the year, you could use it.

Trump has nothing to do with how stupid you are in giving too much money to the government. Dumbest thing in the world....

"I'm mad at Trump because I didn't over pay all year long! It's all his fault I wasn't poorer the entire year!"

Are you a moron? Oh... right... your worse than a moron... you are a Democrap.

You are dumber than you seem.

People are calculating their taxes. They made about the same as the previous year under the old tax code, they took the same withholding, and they expected a LARGER refund because that's what Trump promised. When many people didn't see any increase in their paycheck when the cuts took effect. Trump said they'd get a big refund from the cuts, but they are now finding that they're paying MORE than they did last year.

People are mad at Trump because HE LIED.

You're making it up. Back this up with proof. PROVE that people that made the same in 2017 and 2018 had the same withholding and got back less. You can't, you make shit up to fill in the blanks to try to make this point that you're trying to prove.

You're not even from fucking America? You're from fucking Canada? How the fuck do you know what our taxes are you doing? Mind your own god damned business you damn frozen ape. You rely on our military to protect you. Canada has always reminded me of that whiney little neighborhood kid who has a huge big brother. The kid goes around pissing everyone off and talking shit knowing his big brother would kick anyones ass who tried anything.
Whenever they fought.....Canada 2- USA 0

Canada didn't even exist. Your knowledge of history is typical for a libtard.
 
What does this have to do with Trump?

The amount of your refund, is determined by how much you over pay. If you WANT a refund, you just jack up your with-holdings. How dumb is that? I want to be poorer all year long... so I can get a check back from the government?

Hey idiot.... put your money in a savings account, and at the end of the year, you'll have the same amount of money in that account, that you would have had in a refund... except with interest.

And if you have an emergency during the year, you could use it.

Trump has nothing to do with how stupid you are in giving too much money to the government. Dumbest thing in the world....

"I'm mad at Trump because I didn't over pay all year long! It's all his fault I wasn't poorer the entire year!"

Are you a moron? Oh... right... your worse than a moron... you are a Democrap.

You are dumber than you seem.

With barely the population of California.


People are calculating their taxes. They made about the same as the previous year under the old tax code, they took the same withholding, and they expected a LARGER refund because that's what Trump promised. When many people didn't see any increase in their paycheck when the cuts took effect. Trump said they'd get a big refund from the cuts, but they are now finding that they're paying MORE than they did last year.

People are mad at Trump because HE LIED.
Only a fucking moron depends on their tax return


You're missing the point. People aren't counting on their tax returns.

People are upset because Trump promised them middle class tax cuts, and delivered increases instead.
If you dont like the tax cuts, do what the hollyweird elite promised to do, and move to Canada. See how much of YOUR money, if you actually work, goes to the government and you get nothing in return...Stupid liberals, the most redundant statement of all.

As a Canadian, you haven't the vagues clue what you're talking about. Canadians pay far less in taxes American pay for health care and taxes, and we get to keep more of what we make.

Our taxes provide us with one of the best education systems in the world, higher quality health care than the US, infrastructure, and programs for our people. We don't pay for a bloated military, or give massive tax breaks to corporations. Our country is run efficiently, at a much lower cost that the prolifigate waste and abuses of American public policies.
 
Trump needs the missing taxpayer refund money to bolster his wealth which is sagging like his ass and jowls.
Apparently, you enjoy embarrassing yourself.

That's funny, coming from a Trump supporter. Everything you voted for is a lie.

The tax cuts are shit, there's no great job waiting for you, coal is not coming back, the Koreans have doubled their nuclear capacity, and there will be no wall.

I got a nice refund, I got a new job at twice the salary and was promoted twice in 2018, coal is coming back because we are selling it to China, the North Koreans have firecrackers, and the wall is being built.

Why do you lie?

The wall will never be built. NK was never a threat to the US. Coal will never come back. It will remain a small part of energy production.
 
Trump needs the missing taxpayer refund money to bolster his wealth which is sagging like his ass and jowls.
Apparently, you enjoy embarrassing yourself.

That's funny, coming from a Trump supporter. Everything you voted for is a lie.

The tax cuts are shit, there's no great job waiting for you, coal is not coming back, the Koreans have doubled their nuclear capacity, and there will be no wall.

I got a nice refund, I got a new job at twice the salary and was promoted twice in 2018, coal is coming back because we are selling it to China, the North Koreans have firecrackers, and the wall is being built.

Why do you lie?

The wall will never be built. NK was never a threat to the US. Coal will never come back. It will remain a small part of energy production.
Bwahahahahaha!!!!
 
You are dumber than you seem.

People are calculating their taxes. They made about the same as the previous year under the old tax code, they took the same withholding, and they expected a LARGER refund because that's what Trump promised. When many people didn't see any increase in their paycheck when the cuts took effect. Trump said they'd get a big refund from the cuts, but they are now finding that they're paying MORE than they did last year.

People are mad at Trump because HE LIED.
Only a fucking moron depends on their tax return


You're missing the point. People aren't counting on their tax returns.

People are upset because Trump promised them middle class tax cuts, and delivered increases instead.
If you dont like the tax cuts, do what the hollyweird elite promised to do, and move to Canada. See how much of YOUR money, if you actually work, goes to the government and you get nothing in return...Stupid liberals, the most redundant statement of all.

As a Canadian, you haven't the vagues clue what you're talking about. Canadians pay far less in taxes American pay for health care and taxes, and we get to keep more of what we make.

Our taxes provide us with one of the best education systems in the world, higher quality health care than the US, infrastructure, and programs for our people. We don't pay for a bloated military, or give massive tax breaks to corporations. Our country is run efficiently, at a much lower cost that the prolifigate waste and abuses of American public policies.

No, we pay for your criminally small military.

No you don't. Americans have this myth that the rest of us NEED you to defend us. From who? Nobody is attacking Canada. Nobody has EVER attacked Canada except Americans!!

Canada enter WWI in 2014. WWII in 1939. We did that WITHOUT YOU.

Trump is selling this lie that the rest of the world is relying on US military might to defend us, but we're NOT UNDER MILITARY ATTACK, and we haven't been since the War of 1812. The USA has built this massive military force because YOU WANT to, not because you need it.

You're bankrupting your country with this massive military, just like the Roman Republic did before you, and Trump's latest ploy it to act like the rest of the world made you do this. Bullshit. Since WWII, the United States has created enemies for itself throughout the world, propping up right-wing dictators, facists and despots the world over, so long as they renounced the Soviet Union and Russia. You armed the world to the teeth and profitted from the wars.

Now you complain we made you do this and the rest of us have to spend more. How about YOU SPEND LESS!
 
Only a fucking moron depends on their tax return


You're missing the point. People aren't counting on their tax returns.

People are upset because Trump promised them middle class tax cuts, and delivered increases instead.
If you dont like the tax cuts, do what the hollyweird elite promised to do, and move to Canada. See how much of YOUR money, if you actually work, goes to the government and you get nothing in return...Stupid liberals, the most redundant statement of all.

As a Canadian, you haven't the vagues clue what you're talking about. Canadians pay far less in taxes American pay for health care and taxes, and we get to keep more of what we make.

Our taxes provide us with one of the best education systems in the world, higher quality health care than the US, infrastructure, and programs for our people. We don't pay for a bloated military, or give massive tax breaks to corporations. Our country is run efficiently, at a much lower cost that the prolifigate waste and abuses of American public policies.

No, we pay for your criminally small military.

No you don't. Americans have this myth that the rest of us NEED you to defend us. From who? Nobody is attacking Canada. Nobody has EVER attacked Canada except Americans!!

Canada enter WWI in 2014. WWII in 1939. We did that WITHOUT YOU.

Trump is selling this lie that the rest of the world is relying on US military might to defend us, but we're NOT UNDER MILITARY ATTACK, and we haven't been since the War of 1812. The USA has built this massive military force because YOU WANT to, not because you need it.

You're bankrupting your country with this massive military, just like the Roman Republic did before you, and Trump's latest ploy it to act like the rest of the world made you do this. Bullshit. Since WWII, the United States has created enemies for itself throughout the world, propping up right-wing dictators, facists and despots the world over, so long as they renounced the Soviet Union and Russia. You armed the world to the teeth and profitted from the wars.

Now you complain we made you do this and the rest of us have to spend more. How about YOU SPEND LESS!
You argue from a false premise. The US military is not defending anybody but our nation. What we are doing by defending this nation is keeping the European idiots from attacking each other. We learned after WWI that we had to move all the equipment back to fight WWII. So to stop WWIII we left our military all over the world. It has worked so far.
 
Only a fucking moron depends on their tax return


You're missing the point. People aren't counting on their tax returns.

People are upset because Trump promised them middle class tax cuts, and delivered increases instead.
If you dont like the tax cuts, do what the hollyweird elite promised to do, and move to Canada. See how much of YOUR money, if you actually work, goes to the government and you get nothing in return...Stupid liberals, the most redundant statement of all.

As a Canadian, you haven't the vagues clue what you're talking about. Canadians pay far less in taxes American pay for health care and taxes, and we get to keep more of what we make.

Our taxes provide us with one of the best education systems in the world, higher quality health care than the US, infrastructure, and programs for our people. We don't pay for a bloated military, or give massive tax breaks to corporations. Our country is run efficiently, at a much lower cost that the prolifigate waste and abuses of American public policies.

No, we pay for your criminally small military.

No you don't. Americans have this myth that the rest of us NEED you to defend us. From who? Nobody is attacking Canada. Nobody has EVER attacked Canada except Americans!!

Canada enter WWI in 2014. WWII in 1939. We did that WITHOUT YOU.

Trump is selling this lie that the rest of the world is relying on US military might to defend us, but we're NOT UNDER MILITARY ATTACK, and we haven't been since the War of 1812. The USA has built this massive military force because YOU WANT to, not because you need it.

You're bankrupting your country with this massive military, just like the Roman Republic did before you, and Trump's latest ploy it to act like the rest of the world made you do this. Bullshit. Since WWII, the United States has created enemies for itself throughout the world, propping up right-wing dictators, facists and despots the world over, so long as they renounced the Soviet Union and Russia. You armed the world to the teeth and profitted from the wars.

Now you complain we made you do this and the rest of us have to spend more. How about YOU SPEND LESS!
Lol
Are you so stupid to think that socialist entitlement programs does not dominate American spending/debt? Obviously the military does not...
 
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For the FY 2019 President Donald Trump proposed an increase to the military to $681.1 billion.

Entitlements are the biggest government programs in the US. The biggest entitlement programs benefit seniors. In FY 2018 the Social Security program cost $988 billion. In FY 2018 the Medicare health-care program cost $589 billion.

Spending is in three categories: Mandatory, which is at $2.739 trillion; Discretionary at $1.305 trillion;Interest on the National Debt, $363 billion.
 
You're not going to get as big of a refund when you paid less taxes all year long.

This article just explains so clearly how Americans are fucking stupid and can't see past the ends of their fat assed noses. The huffington puffington post is known Anti Trump so their opinion really isn't worth the dog shit it's written on.

Hey OP, rather than spew bullshit, why not quote Trump saying that everyone would get a larger tax refund? Don't just make shit up, back it up.

It does not. You are a typical Trump supporter who is dumber than the average American. Fox News, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are all pro-Trump so I assume their opinion isn't worth dog shit. either
 
It looks like this is just another Democrat lie. This is why losing in 2016 came as such a shock. Democrats tell themselves stories that make them feel better. They have a media that supports the falsehoods. They reject the truth until it rolls over them.

Americans' Confidence in Their Finances Keeps Growing

Despite this, they still voted to return the House to Republicans. That tells me that they do not believe Trump and Republicans are the ones who helped their finances.
 
It looks like this is just another Democrat lie. This is why losing in 2016 came as such a shock. Democrats tell themselves stories that make them feel better. They have a media that supports the falsehoods. They reject the truth until it rolls over them.

Americans' Confidence in Their Finances Keeps Growing

Despite this, they still voted to return the House to Republicans. That tells me that they do not believe Trump and Republicans are the ones who helped their finances.
Record number of rinos retiring saved democrats hind end.
 
Stockholm syndrome to the max. Lefties are math-challenged.

Rw's are challenged in the reading comprehension dept ..

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
It’s your money to begin with. If less is withheld, less is returned. What is so hard to understand?

When the government set up the tax tables, they apparently set them up in a attempt to pretty much reduce or eliminate refunds. They apparently did not consider the fact that people are interested in getting bigger refunds.
 
Trump needs the missing taxpayer refund money to bolster his wealth which is sagging like his ass and jowls.


If you ever got a refund of more than a couple of hundred dollars, you're paying way too much in withholding.

.

That is true however some people use withholding as a way of saving money until they get their refund. The new withholding tables were put in place without the consent of taxpayers.


Sorry dipstick, you can request more be withheld. What you're really saying is most people are too ignorant to manage their own affairs.

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You are the dipstick as are all Trump supporters. The IRS sets all withholding tables. The only way to affect that is to decide whether or not to carry dependents. People are not ignorant. They use withholding the way they used a Christmas club account at one time. Save some money through withholding and buy something nice when you get your refund.


Damn son, not only are you a dipstick, you're a stupid dipstick.
Have you ever bothered to read the W-4 form? Line 6 allows you to request additional withholding.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/fw4.pdf

So feel free to loan the feds all the money, interest free, you wish.

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You are a stupid dipstick. Taxpayers were not informed of the Treasury's desire to lower or eliminate refunds and were unable to do so because of the new tax code.

Interest is hardly the issue. We are talking about 1 year and the interest would be negligible.
 
The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...

What does this have to do with Trump?

The amount of your refund, is determined by how much you over pay. If you WANT a refund, you just jack up your with-holdings. How dumb is that? I want to be poorer all year long... so I can get a check back from the government?

Hey idiot.... put your money in a savings account, and at the end of the year, you'll have the same amount of money in that account, that you would have had in a refund... except with interest.

And if you have an emergency during the year, you could use it.

Trump has nothing to do with how stupid you are in giving too much money to the government. Dumbest thing in the world....

"I'm mad at Trump because I didn't over pay all year long! It's all his fault I wasn't poorer the entire year!"

Are you a moron? Oh... right... your worse than a moron... you are a Democrap.

You are dumber than you seem.

People are calculating their taxes. They made about the same as the previous year under the old tax code, they took the same withholding, and they expected a LARGER refund because that's what Trump promised. When many people didn't see any increase in their paycheck when the cuts took effect. Trump said they'd get a big refund from the cuts, but they are now finding that they're paying MORE than they did last year.

People are mad at Trump because HE LIED.
Only a fucking moron depends on their tax return

No one is relying on their tax return. However they may have plans for the tax return.
 
My personal preference is raising the personal deduction up to what a full time minimum wage job would pay; that would be around $36,088 on the very conservative end, and around $56,160 if using the gold standard, which is probably the best measure of real inflation. Defense spending should financed via a Federal tax on land, and not out of payroll tax revenues or income taxes.

Minimum wage is $15,000. Where are you getting this $36,000 number?

Regardless given that 40% or whatever of the public doesn't pay any tax, clearly people making minimum wage are not paying any tax. So reducing their taxable income to zero, when they already pay zero, won't make any difference.

There is no land the Federal government can tax. It isn't Federal land, and taxing land that isn't theirs to tax, is unconstitutional.

I would say a universal 5% income tax, should be more than enough to cover everything the Federal government does. (I should say, everything they are supposed to do constitutionally)
 
Trump needs the missing taxpayer refund money to bolster his wealth which is sagging like his ass and jowls.


If you ever got a refund of more than a couple of hundred dollars, you're paying way too much in withholding.

.

That is true however some people use withholding as a way of saving money until they get their refund. The new withholding tables were put in place without the consent of taxpayers.


Sorry dipstick, you can request more be withheld. What you're really saying is most people are too ignorant to manage their own affairs.

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You are the dipstick as are all Trump supporters. The IRS sets all withholding tables. The only way to affect that is to decide whether or not to carry dependents. People are not ignorant. They use withholding the way they used a Christmas club account at one time. Save some money through withholding and buy something nice when you get your refund.
Lol
Which is totally moronic, Letting the government use your money for most of the year for nothing. A smart person would have to pay in every year.... As late as possible

There is nothing moronic. You get nothing in terms of interest for 1 year. Again Christmas accounts used to do the same thing.
 
The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...

What does this have to do with Trump?

The amount of your refund, is determined by how much you over pay. If you WANT a refund, you just jack up your with-holdings. How dumb is that? I want to be poorer all year long... so I can get a check back from the government?

Hey idiot.... put your money in a savings account, and at the end of the year, you'll have the same amount of money in that account, that you would have had in a refund... except with interest.

And if you have an emergency during the year, you could use it.

Trump has nothing to do with how stupid you are in giving too much money to the government. Dumbest thing in the world....

"I'm mad at Trump because I didn't over pay all year long! It's all his fault I wasn't poorer the entire year!"

Are you a moron? Oh... right... your worse than a moron... you are a Democrap.

You are dumber than you seem.

People are calculating their taxes. They made about the same as the previous year under the old tax code, they took the same withholding, and they expected a LARGER refund because that's what Trump promised. When many people didn't see any increase in their paycheck when the cuts took effect. Trump said they'd get a big refund from the cuts, but they are now finding that they're paying MORE than they did last year.

People are mad at Trump because HE LIED.
Only a fucking moron depends on their tax return

No one is relying on their tax return. However they may have plans for the tax return.

Again, that would make you a moron.

If your budget and life plans, are centered around a tax return... that makes you an idiot.

If you are telling me, that you are blowing money, based on a tax return, because you are assuming money is coming from the government... you are a moron.
 
It looks like this is just another Democrat lie. This is why losing in 2016 came as such a shock. Democrats tell themselves stories that make them feel better. They have a media that supports the falsehoods. They reject the truth until it rolls over them.

Americans' Confidence in Their Finances Keeps Growing

Despite this, they still voted to return the House to Republicans. That tells me that they do not believe Trump and Republicans are the ones who helped their finances.
Record number of rinos retiring saved democrats hind end.

Not really. 30 Republican incumbents were defeated in 2018. Democrats gained very little from open Republican seats. They were mostly moderates in moderate districts.

MacArthur, Thomas Charles NJ-3
Curbelo, Carlos FL-26
Donovan, Daniel M., Jr. NY-11
Faso, John J. NY-19
Valadao, David G. CA-21
Tenney, Claudia NY-22
Comstock, Barbara J. VA-10
Denham, Jeff CA-10
Lance, Leonard NJ-7
Poliquin, Bruce Lee ME-2
Knight, Steve CA-25
Paulsen, Erik MN-3
Roskam, Peter IL-6
Walters, Mimi CA-45
Young, David IA-3
Bishop, Michael Dean MI-8
Taylor, Scott William VA-2
Russell, Steve OK-5
Hultgren, Randy IL-14
Coffman, Mike CO-6
Rothfus, Keith PA-12
Handel, Karen GA-6
Culberson, John TX-7
Lewis, Jason Mark MN-2
Blum, Rod IA-1
Love, Ludmya Bourdeau (Mia) UT-4
Yoder, Kevin KS-3
Sessions, Pete TX-32
Rohrabacher, Dana CA-48
Brat, David A. VA-7
 
The feces has hit the fan at tax refund time as low and middle-class Americans are finding that Trump has his hand in their pocket and has stolen money from their refunds.

The wealthy are still doing just fine. The lies about the Trump tax cuts is now exposed that the low and middle class are financing the tax cuts for the wealthy people and corporations.

Donald Trump won't be able to spin his way out of the tax cut lie.

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter | HuffPost

Average Tax Refunds Down 8.4 Percent As Angry Taxpayers Vent On Twitter
Many workers who had always gotten a refund find out they now owe the IRS.
headshot
By Mary Papenfuss

Average tax refunds were down last week 8.4 percent for the first week of the tax season over the same time last year, according to the Internal Revenue Service. Dipping refunds are inflaming a growing army of taxpayers stunned by the consequences of the Trump administration’s tax law — and the effects of the partial government shutdown.

The average refund check paid out so far has been $1,865, down from $2,035 at the same point in 2018, according to IRS data. Low-income taxpayers often file early to pocket the money as soon as possible. Many taxpayers count on the refunds to make important payments, or spend the money on things like home repairs, a vacation or a car.

The IRS had estimated it would issue about 2.3 percent fewer refunds this year as a result of the changes in the federal tax law, according to Bloomberg. MSNBC reports that 30 million Americans will owe the IRS money this year — 3 million more than before Trump’s tax law.

“There are going to be a lot of unhappy people over the next month,” Edward Karl of the American Institute of CPAs told Politico. “Taxpayers want a large refund.” Some 71 percent of taxpayers received refunds last year worth about $3,000 on average, according to Karl.

Scads of taxpayers are complaining on Twitter that they have always received a refund — but now owe the IRS instead. ...

What does this have to do with Trump?

The amount of your refund, is determined by how much you over pay. If you WANT a refund, you just jack up your with-holdings. How dumb is that? I want to be poorer all year long... so I can get a check back from the government?

Hey idiot.... put your money in a savings account, and at the end of the year, you'll have the same amount of money in that account, that you would have had in a refund... except with interest.

And if you have an emergency during the year, you could use it.

Trump has nothing to do with how stupid you are in giving too much money to the government. Dumbest thing in the world....

"I'm mad at Trump because I didn't over pay all year long! It's all his fault I wasn't poorer the entire year!"

Are you a moron? Oh... right... your worse than a moron... you are a Democrap.

You are dumber than you seem.

People are calculating their taxes. They made about the same as the previous year under the old tax code, they took the same withholding, and they expected a LARGER refund because that's what Trump promised. When many people didn't see any increase in their paycheck when the cuts took effect. Trump said they'd get a big refund from the cuts, but they are now finding that they're paying MORE than they did last year.

People are mad at Trump because HE LIED.

Like it shoulda been a shock that a man who breaths lies....lied about this. He has many more lies planned to screw middle America.


the new tax tables and code changes were put in place by congress, Trump did not write any of it, he signed the bill. If you want to blame someone, start with Paul Ryan.

The withholding tables were not put in place by Congress. That was the Treasury Department.
 

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