To the "Anti-vaxxers"

The covid vaccine is safe and effective.

Get the shot so we can end this shit

If it was adequately proven so, then it would have received FDA approval.

In any event, we are never going to end this sort of shit by caving in to the criminals and tyrants who are lying to us and scaring us in order to achieve and abuse power over us. Doing anything that they demand only encourages this sort of abuse.
 
I am putting this in politics instead of healthcare... because it is about the political side of all this.

I am as conservative as they come. Leftism is a cancer among us in many ways.
One, however, is not the vaccine.
Get vaccinated. We need to cut this thing down before a truly bad variant comes out. Delta is not it. It is not nearly as bad as bad as the original, but it can become worse as it will, inevitably morph itself.
As i have stated here a number of times my son is a Respiratory Specialist, and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist. Both at major hospitals.
At the hospital my daughter works at, there are 44 Covid patients. 6 are in ICU. 2 are likely to die.
Wanna know the demographics?
All but two are minorities.
Only one is vaccinated.

Let that sink in. It is the same all over. Right now Covid is a sickness, primarily for the unvaccinated. Yes you can spout off some anecdotal situations that show some vaccinated people getting sick and even dying. But folks, the numbers are simply what the numbers are. And the numbers are the sick enough to be hospitalized - are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

Getting vaccinated is not "giving in". It doesn't make you less conservative. It is not a "win" for the other side.
It is Goddamn common sense in order to stop a very possible bad ass variant from developing that will screw us over worse than 2020.
It should be left up to the individual. A large percentage of the population has a natural immunity now.
 
I am putting this in politics instead of healthcare... because it is about the political side of all this.

I am as conservative as they come. Leftism is a cancer among us in many ways.
One, however, is not the vaccine.
Get vaccinated. We need to cut this thing down before a truly bad variant comes out. Delta is not it. It is not nearly as bad as bad as the original, but it can become worse as it will, inevitably morph itself.
As i have stated here a number of times my son is a Respiratory Specialist, and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist. Both at major hospitals.
At the hospital my daughter works at, there are 44 Covid patients. 6 are in ICU. 2 are likely to die.
Wanna know the demographics?
All but two are minorities.
Only one is vaccinated.

Let that sink in. It is the same all over. Right now Covid is a sickness, primarily for the unvaccinated. Yes you can spout off some anecdotal situations that show some vaccinated people getting sick and even dying. But folks, the numbers are simply what the numbers are. And the numbers are the sick enough to be hospitalized - are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

Getting vaccinated is not "giving in". It doesn't make you less conservative. It is not a "win" for the other side.
It is Goddamn common sense in order to stop a very possible bad ass variant from developing that will screw us over worse than 2020.
Mind your own fucking business.
 
2% of the population? No stupid.

2% of infected people
Toro posted “number of deaths is currently 0.2% of the entire population.” Hmmm… seems your attempted insult went the wrong direction;)

I’ve seen you do this so many times Lesh, and your uneducated remarks are really old for all posters who come to learn. It does explain why numerous posters refer to you as Lush however;)
 
I am putting this in politics instead of healthcare... because it is about the political side of all this.

I am as conservative as they come. Leftism is a cancer among us in many ways.
One, however, is not the vaccine.
Get vaccinated. We need to cut this thing down before a truly bad variant comes out. Delta is not it. It is not nearly as bad as bad as the original, but it can become worse as it will, inevitably morph itself.
As i have stated here a number of times my son is a Respiratory Specialist, and my daughter is a Respiratory Therapist. Both at major hospitals.
At the hospital my daughter works at, there are 44 Covid patients. 6 are in ICU. 2 are likely to die.
Wanna know the demographics?
All but two are minorities.
Only one is vaccinated.

Let that sink in. It is the same all over. Right now Covid is a sickness, primarily for the unvaccinated. Yes you can spout off some anecdotal situations that show some vaccinated people getting sick and even dying. But folks, the numbers are simply what the numbers are. And the numbers are the sick enough to be hospitalized - are overwhelmingly unvaccinated.

Getting vaccinated is not "giving in". It doesn't make you less conservative. It is not a "win" for the other side.
It is Goddamn common sense in order to stop a very possible bad ass variant from developing that will screw us over worse than 2020.

If you think covid is going anywhere then you're wrong and have no idea of what you speak. It's part of life on earth now and it will NEVER go away. You can't beat it. Much like the flu it's here to stay.

Anyone I don't give a shit if it's the president or the cdc there is no eliminating covid.

Any reasonably smart person knows this. If you vaccinated every person the planet right now there is a small percent of people covid would survive and mutate to change with the vaccine and continue to spread. As it does it will do so in different way with different strains. Eventually it will be like the flu where when you get a flu shot it only covers 4 or 5 of the strains of flu predicted to be the biggest out of dozens of strains.

You're an absolute fool if you think "we can beat covid" because we can't.
 
So you spoke up and told Democrats they had their heads shoved up their asses, take Trump's vaccine?

We both know you didn't say a word

Democrats weren't against taking a vaccine. They simply needed a medical professional to say it was safe, not a politician.

We can see now that Democrats are much more likely to get vaccinated than Republicans.

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Conventional vaccines stop viruses, stop transmission and offer immunity. mRNA isn't a vaccine and doesn't stop viral transmission and provides no immunity. Big difference plus this is new technology never before tested on humans. Aside from all of that, it hasn't gone through the necessary and proper clinical trials which last from 8-12 years. We have no idea of what the side effects are going to be on the human body.

Mrna research has been around for at least a decade & is not the same as previous vaccine procurement.

the most vulnerable among us in terms of immunity & circumstances that might show bigley side effects & become debilitated or keel over from the side effects are seniors. they were the 1st ones to get the shots, & they aren't experiencing mass detriments or death from 'em. that would be happening.
 
Democrats weren't against taking a vaccine. They simply needed a medical professional to say it was safe, not a politician

Um ... yeah ... you were afraid Trump would release the vaccine, not an actual medical company. Sure you were.

Democrats lie so much, and yet you're still so bad at it.

XponentialChaos: Um .. I was afraid Trump would release his home remedy as the vaccine. Duh, dar, drool. Yeah, that's the ticket ...

 
You dumbass ....

There's threads all over this board about fully vaxxed people dying from the Wuhan Virus.

You are a Marxist Fake News Sheeple who believes the government is your god and would defend them LYING to you and everyone else to the bitter end.

There is a reason Leftism is referred to as a Mental Disorder.
By crazy people most of whom were proud Q Kooks just a few months ago… and still believe quietly
 
That's your dumbass partisan opinion.

that's a fact, jack.


Not fact or evidence.

<ahem>

Delta Variant: What We Know About the Science​

Updated Aug. 6, 2021

Infections and Spread​

The Delta variant causes more infections and spreads faster than early forms SARS-CoV-2
The Delta variant is more contagious than previous strains--it may cause more than two times as many infections. Vaccines protect you.

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  • The Delta variant is more contagious: The Delta variant is highly contagious, nearly twice as contagious as previous variants.
  • Some data suggest the Delta variant might cause more severe illness than previous strains in unvaccinated persons. In two different studies from Canada and Scotland, patients infected with the Delta variant were more likely to be hospitalized than patients infected with Alpha or the original virus strains.
  • Unvaccinated people remain the greatest concern: Although breakthrough infections happen much less often than infections in unvaccinated people, individuals infected with the Delta variant, including fully vaccinated people with symptomatic breakthrough infections, can transmit it to others. CDC is continuing to assess data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit. However, the greatest risk of transmission is among unvaccinated people who are much more likely to contract, and therefore transmit the virus.
  • Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others. However, vaccinated people appear to be infectious for a shorter period: Previous variants typically produced less virus in the body of infected fully vaccinated people (breakthrough infections) than in unvaccinated people. In contrast, the Delta variant seems to produce the same high amount of virus in both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people. However, like other variants, the amount of virus produced by Delta breakthrough infections in fully vaccinated people also goes down faster than infections in unvaccinated people. This means fully vaccinated people are likely infectious for less time than unvaccinated people.
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)


5 Things To Know About the Delta Variant​

BY KATHY KATELLA AUGUST 3, 2021

From what we know so far, people who are fully vaccinated against the coronavirus appear to have strong protection against Delta compared to those who aren’t. Recent data on “breakthrough cases, from the Kaiser Foundation (while based on limited available data) put these cases at well below 1% in the United States, and effectively 0% for severe illness and death. But anyone who is unvaccinated and not practicing preventive strategies is at high risk for infection by the new variant, doctors say.

5 Things To Know About the Delta Variant

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated​

By CARLA K. JOHNSON and MIKE STOBBEJune 29, 2021
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Unvaccinated Americans Are Behind Rising Covid-19 Hospitalizations​

By
Melanie Evans
and
Julie Wernau
July 18, 2021 9:00 am ET
Unvaccinated Americans Are Behind Rising Covid-19 Hospitalizations


My point stands.

the only point you have is on top of yer head.

You have no evidence that the vaccine "protects people from severe cases that result in death or incapacity".

lol ... i just gave you several sources.

All you have is your dumbass partisan opinion.

repeating yerself doesn't make it true.
 
You are being lied to by the Marxist Fake News MSM, the CDC, and the mastermind of this Plandemic, Dr. F ....

However I am sure you lack the IQ to be anything other than a Marxist Fake News Sheeple.


but but but where's the part that says them thar vaxxed people are being hospitalised?

oh ya, it doesn't.
 
that's a fact, jack.




<ahem>

Delta Variant: What We Know About the Science​

Updated Aug. 6, 2021

Infections and Spread​

The Delta variant causes more infections and spreads faster than early forms SARS-CoV-2
The Delta variant is more contagious than previous strains--it may cause more than two times as many infections. Vaccines protect you.

resize iconView Larger
  • The Delta variant is more contagious: The Delta variant is highly contagious, nearly twice as contagious as previous variants.
  • Some data suggest the Delta variant might cause more severe illness than previous strains in unvaccinated persons. In two different studies from Canada and Scotland, patients infected with the Delta variant were more likely to be hospitalized than patients infected with Alpha or the original virus strains.
  • Unvaccinated people remain the greatest concern: Although breakthrough infections happen much less often than infections in unvaccinated people, individuals infected with the Delta variant, including fully vaccinated people with symptomatic breakthrough infections, can transmit it to others. CDC is continuing to assess data on whether fully vaccinated people with asymptomatic breakthrough infections can transmit. However, the greatest risk of transmission is among unvaccinated people who are much more likely to contract, and therefore transmit the virus.
  • Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others. However, vaccinated people appear to be infectious for a shorter period: Previous variants typically produced less virus in the body of infected fully vaccinated people (breakthrough infections) than in unvaccinated people. In contrast, the Delta variant seems to produce the same high amount of virus in both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people. However, like other variants, the amount of virus produced by Delta breakthrough infections in fully vaccinated people also goes down faster than infections in unvaccinated people. This means fully vaccinated people are likely infectious for less time than unvaccinated people.
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)


5 Things To Know About the Delta Variant​

BY KATHY KATELLA AUGUST 3, 2021

From what we know so far, people who are fully vaccinated against the coronavirus appear to have strong protection against Delta compared to those who aren’t. Recent data on “breakthrough cases, from the Kaiser Foundation (while based on limited available data) put these cases at well below 1% in the United States, and effectively 0% for severe illness and death. But anyone who is unvaccinated and not practicing preventive strategies is at high risk for infection by the new variant, doctors say.

5 Things To Know About the Delta Variant

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated​

By CARLA K. JOHNSON and MIKE STOBBEJune 29, 2021
Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

Unvaccinated Americans Are Behind Rising Covid-19 Hospitalizations​

By
Melanie Evans
and
Julie Wernau
July 18, 2021 9:00 am ET
Unvaccinated Americans Are Behind Rising Covid-19 Hospitalizations




the only point you have is on top of yer head.



lol ... i just gave you several sources.



repeating yerself doesn't make it true.
You are being LIED to.

And, you are too stupid to see it.
 

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