To Those On The Left: Why Are You Voting For Biden?

[pknopp]

One reason is Trump is either a coward or complicit in the bounty on American soldiers He was briefed in Feb and still played footsie with his pal Putin ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but there are so many other reasons to keep the hate filled POS out of our WH

What did you want him to do?

Sanction them worse than before Let Putin know we can do the same to him? Do SOMETHING instead of kissing putins ass trying to get him back in the G7

Sanctions only hurt the poor people of a country. What changes did sanctions in Cuba make?

The answer is to bring the troops home but the (D)'s bucked him on that.

 

[DustyInfinity]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a fucked up, PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

You never actually say why you think it is an ugly time in history. You make vague references to 1940's Germany and nationalism, and say you hate Trump and all his voters. As far as I can tell, his policies don't warrent such an assessment. Honestly, the only reason you would vote for Biden is that you support what the Democrats are doing. Their behavior since they lost the election has been an embarrassment to say the least.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

EASY QUESTION!
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3 years and 8 months into his first term and he's spent ONE ENTIRE YEAR ON VACATION AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE.


But worst of all, PUTIN OWNS HIM.

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That was good until you stated the phony establishment line that he’s owned by Putin. The evidence is readily available that disproves this. It does prove that the establishment d party and their friends in the MSM, can dupe vast numbers of Americans. The consequences are frightening.

Uh-huh.
One word for you, idiot.
Helsinki.
MSM just rolled the cameras, they didn't put the words in his mouth.

 

[Canon Shooter]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

Because he is not Trump. Any other reasons pale in comparison.

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

I'm a lot younger and I've never filed for bankruptcy or grabbed anyone by the pussy (well, no one who didn't want me to). Why not vote for me?

Okay. I'll give you a write in vote for something. But not for President. That vote is set in stone already and nothing can change it.

And, yet, you're unable to explain why...

BIDEN IS NOT TRUMP. That's why he is getting my vote. I explained that very clearly already. If you don't like my answer, that's your problem.

It's sad that you're not smart enough to point to even one of Biden's positions or policies which convince you he'll be a good President.

People like you shouldn't be permitted to vote...

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

 

[DustyInfinity]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

Because he is not Trump. Any other reasons pale in comparison.

What exactly gives you guys such a hate-boner for Trump? It gives a great excuse for justifying the lefts horrible behavior and voting for messed up things.

 

[Blaine Sweeter]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

Because he is not Trump. Any other reasons pale in comparison.

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

I'm a lot younger and I've never filed for bankruptcy or grabbed anyone by the pussy (well, no one who didn't want me to). Why not vote for me?

Okay. I'll give you a write in vote for something. But not for President. That vote is set in stone already and nothing can change it.

And, yet, you're unable to explain why...

BIDEN IS NOT TRUMP. That's why he is getting my vote. I explained that very clearly already. If you don't like my answer, that's your problem.

It's sad that you're not smart enough to point to even one of Biden's positions or policies which convince you he'll be a good President.

People like you shouldn't be permitted to vote...

I would vote for a gerbil in a coma before I would vote for Trump.
Biden is certainly not the perfect candidate, but he UNDERSTANDS how government works and will not be a fucking tin-pot dictator.

 

[pknopp]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

Because he is not Trump. Any other reasons pale in comparison.

What exactly gives you guys such a hate-boner for Trump? It gives a great excuse for justifying the lefts horrible behavior and voting for messed up things.

I'd prefer a president that doesn't act like a 12 year old.

 

[NotYourBody]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

Because he is not Trump. Any other reasons pale in comparison.

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

I'm a lot younger and I've never filed for bankruptcy or grabbed anyone by the pussy (well, no one who didn't want me to). Why not vote for me?

Okay. I'll give you a write in vote for something. But not for President. That vote is set in stone already and nothing can change it.

And, yet, you're unable to explain why...

BIDEN IS NOT TRUMP. That's why he is getting my vote. I explained that very clearly already. If you don't like my answer, that's your problem.

It's sad that you're not smart enough to point to even one of Biden's positions or policies which convince you he'll be a good President.

People like you shouldn't be permitted to vote...

Guaranteed, I will be voting. By mail!

I'm not sorry that makes you sad, bless your heart.

 

[LoneLaugher]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

I don't think it's a majority. Too many simply want to win. They don't care who it is or what they stand for. Our current governor is a coal baron that the (D)'s elected the last time and then he quickly flipped to (R). Everyone told me that I had to vote for him the last time or the (R) candidate would win (who was a terrible choice also) but I disagree with that kind of thinking.

I think the only positive was he was embarrassed into coming to some sort of agreement to pay his millions in mine safety violations.

It’s clear we need fundamental change, but neither party is offering that. Both parties are happy with the status quo. The consequences of this are the nation will continue to decline and the people will suffer. The 1% will do great.

I find it odd at how many vote against their own interests just to "win".

No one knows what Biden’s platform is. He is merely running on “I’m not Trump,” and apparently that’s enough for many voters.

Voters who get their news from the MSM, we usually vote against their own interests. They’ve been propagandized.

Are you HONESTLY saying that you, a politics junkie who claims to know every fucking thing, does not know what Biden’s platform is? You have no idea how he is likely to govern?

Talk about buying a bullshit narrative.

Please inform me of what policies and changes Joe is offering.

No. I’ll leave you to wallow in your willful ignorance.

Why bother if you simply want to avoid the actual issues? What was asked of you is not an irrational or ignorant question. By not answering all you are doing is admitting there are no major differences.

Couldn’t be honest, huh? Sad.

Why is Bernie endorsing Biden for president? What did Bernie say the Policy differences between Biden and Trump are when he endorsed him?

I can't say I ever heard him state the differences. Why is Bernie endorsing him? He doesn't want to get blamed if he loses. I would prefer he didn't but it's not a major issue as his endorsement doesn't mean all that much.

Why do die hard Bernie supporters trust him to run the nation but refuse to trust him when it comes to his endorsements?

I see that you “thanked” the comment about me voting for Hitler over Trump. That’s awesome.

Being that you are so evasive it gives people pause to wonder what else you would support. You still haven't answered a single question I asked you.

I’m sorry. What question have you asked?

I'm not going to go round and round with your evasion. You know what I (and others) have asked.

Ahhh. You want me to waste time and effort outlining the policy differences between Trump and Biden? That was Gipper’s BS question.

I’ll give you a few in video form...so you can then pretend that you didn’t see it and that I never answered your question.

Granted I stopped at the first difference. Created a data base........he's been in office for decades and he just now supports this (even though he didn't actually do anything to create it) now? What about the years he ignored police violence?

You didn’t even pay attention to the first difference. And then you stopped?

As I anticipated, you don’t really want to know the policy differences between Trump and Biden. You are not engaging in an honest discussion here.

I paid attention and addressed it. You ignored what I said. When the first point is bogus there is little reason to continue.

You didn’t pay attention. The video did not claim that Biden made a database. That was describing a Trump BS executive order.

Please. Try harder.

Here is the deal, contrarian.

I support much of Bernie’s agenda. I prefer a more aggressive progressive position than Biden usually takes. Bernie was not my first choice in 2020 but I did vote for him in the 2016 primary.

Policies are one part of the equation. And while there are VAST policy differences between Trump and Biden, my decision to vote FOR Biden is just as much a result of the other part of the equation.

Character.

Joe Biden is a better man. This is not something that any honest person will dispute.

So, if you *cough, cough* feel that they are the same policy wise, you’d STILL be in favor of Biden over Trump based solely on character.

Just like Bernie. Just like any reasonable progressive.

We are now done here.

"Better man" is subjective. He supported every foolish war we have engaged in. I can never describe someone like that as a "better man".

LL doesn’t know anything real about his record. CNN never told her.

Her? Idiot.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I'll admit that this questions assumes that those on the left are going to vote for Joe Biden for President.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

Because he is not Trump. Any other reasons pale in comparison.

I'm not Trump. Why not vote for me?

I'm a lot younger and I've never filed for bankruptcy or grabbed anyone by the pussy (well, no one who didn't want me to). Why not vote for me?

Because you're not a nominee for any political party.

 

[Mac1958]

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

My question to you is a very simple one: Why are you voting for Biden?

I don't want to. He's a terrible candidate. The Democratic Party is a PC/Identity Politics-consumed shit show. And even though I definitely agree with the Democrats (in general) on more issues -- and isn't that how we make voting decisions, usually? -- I would very much like to vote third party.

But (a) I live in a purple state, and (b) I think Trumpism is an ugly moment in our history, so it looks like I don't have a fucking choice.

If that's successful, the next step is to get to work on the Democratic Party, which damn sure needs it.

The party routinely gives a middle finger to the people who want to see change. What makes you think you can change that?

Which party are we talking about?

The one you say you want to work on.

Well, three part answer, trying to keep it brief:

1. Creating change is easier -- well, less terribly difficult and impossible -- on a local/state level if you have the patience and keep going.

We had a great candidate for change here in WV for governor.

Stephen Smith for WV Governor: WV Can’t Wait!

The DNC came in late and ran another corporate (D). Plowed a ton of money into his campaign and then got Manchin to back him.

No, I think they are pretty much as corrupted as the (R)'s.

2. The bigger problem is the system under which these people operate, and we have to keep pounding on that -- unfortunately the country as a whole is more concerned about who the Kardashian girls are banging, so this is a slow process.

As long as the government continues to "give" the people a few bucks here or there they are going to be complacent enough until it all crashes.

3. All we can do is our little part when we can, and support those few remaining souls who appear to have retained some degree of reason and critical thinking.

Too bad the party overall doesn't.

Well, the lunatics are in control of the asylum. The question is whether the rest of us -- the majority -- can get it back.

I used to be more confident about that. Now I'm about 50/50.

Well, we should identify who are the lunatics? I guess it should be obvious, but these are strange times.

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

 

[JoeB131]

We are Venezuela without the ability to endlessly print money and that isn't going to last forever.

Okay, you tell yourself that, buddy.

Now, I'm the first one to say, a lot of Ven. problems are the economic war the rest of the world has waged on it.

The other part of the problem is, SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK. If I can get just as much money sitting on my ass as I do going out and busting it every day, I'm going to sit on my ass and watch Star Trek Reruns all day. And it's going to be reruns because no one is going to be inspired to make new episodes of Star Trek if they can't make money doing it.

Yes, wealth distribution should be more equitable, but there should be rewards for hard work. Socialism doesn't do that, it actively discourages it, which is why the USSR failed, why Venezuela is continuing to fail, and why China failed until it traded their Mao Suits for business suits.

 

[JoeB131]

Just having Biden elected would be an indication that this ugly, temporary madness is over.

That. I'll just take that. That would be enough. That's how fucking low my standards are now.

don't worry, you'll be whining about how he doesn't love Wall Street Greed enough.

You were just fine with what Trump did when the Markets were doing well, Mitlaufer Mac. Hey, that's my new name for you.

 

[JoeB131]

Well, I guess I'd start the identification with those who have no knowledge of, accurate understanding of, or interest in, the actual perspectives or positions of the other "side".

Okay, Mitlaufer Mac, who are those, exactly? Seems to me both sides understand each other pretty well.

Heck, I voted Republican for years, before I realized the absolute loons had taken over.

 

[JoeB131]

That’s it? The wall, police reform, and reduce carbon emissions. Those are all minor issues. Expanding Ocare is dumb. We need Medicareforall.

So, in essence, Joe offers fringe minor differences and that’s enough for you.

Nothing on stopping the non-stop wars, the ever expanding police state, the ever expanding fascism of big government, nothing income inequality, nothing on helping average Americans who have nothing and are drowning in debt. Nothing on reforming our justice system.Nothing...

Actually, quite a lot, but never mind. It's just as easy to let the Perfect be the enemy of the good.

Biden will be an improvement over Trump. If it were up to me, I'd be all for Single Payer, but the country (not Wall Street or the Corporations, but the people) aren't there yet. They like their private insurance and they want to keep it.

Fixing all of those other issues, most of them would require a much larger consensus on them that we have now. Take, "non-stop wars". Okay. When the war started, it had 93% approval. Bin Laden is dead, Al Qaeda is pretty much gone as an organization, but we are still there. Why? Because it isn't effecting most of us personally. We got rid of the draft, we don't have a loved one over there unless they chose to join the military.

The reason why you had riots in the street over Vietnam was because those folks didn't want to be drafted. No draft, no outrage. I'd pull the plug on the Afghanistan Circus right now, but I wouldn't have to live with the consequences if the Taliban takes over.

 

[JoeB131]

"Better man" is subjective. He supported every foolish war we have engaged in. I can never describe someone like that as a "better man".

So did most Americans. So what "foolish wars" are you talking about?

He didn't become a Senator until Vietnam was over, so we can't count that one.

The Gulf War- Sorry, hardly a "foolish" war, as Iraq was clearly in violation of Kuwait's sovereignty and the entire UN voted to expel them.

The War in Afghanistan? Again, we were attacked, the UN Authorized intervention, and 93% of the country favored it.

The War in Iraq- Yes, we can fault Joe and most of the Dem leadership for that one.

So by "every foolish war", do you mean, "one foolish war?

 

[jc456]

It's his heart, not his brain.

Nah, it is pretty simple, they are unAmericans. The nation is now split in at least two nations. They want their socialism and shitholes and in my opinion they should be provided with that option.

I'm actually trying to get some sincere answers from those who are planning on voting for Biden.

Please, let's not turn this into a complete shit show before the first response is posted...

That’s funny

 

[JoeB131]

The standard of the Democrat party is very very low these days, where are the Humphreys, the Kennedys, of the Roosevelts people, the ones who loved America despite their personal flaws, they would NEVER condone the leftist hate that have been prominent in the streets these days.

I could ask the same of the GOP... Where are the Eisenhowers, the Nixons, the Reagans who would never endorse the crazies showing up on Capitol steps with guns whining that they have to wear a mask when they go out.

So let's be honest about these riots, shall we. Black folks have been asking for YEARS to address the issue of police violence. All the way back to Rodney King, which happened in 1992. And we ignored the peaceful please, we ruined Colin Kapernick's career... We blurted out "Blue Lives Matter", as if it were anywhere near the same thing.

I am loath to agree with Mitlaufer Mac, who thinks that anyone who doesn't think what he does is a "wild eyed extermist", but I will admit, we are in an odd time, where we went from a calm moment to plague, recession and riots in four months flat. We ignored these problems for a long time, and the Chickens are coming home to roost.