To those saying flipping burgers or dunking fries deserves 15.00 per hour...

[Cecilie1200]

Perhaps if those jobs paid more they would be filled...22 bucks per hour doesn't provide a great living.

Doesn't provide a great living WHERE?! Unless you live in some place like NYC or Boston, where the local economy has been totally fucked by leftist interference, $22 is quite good, especially for that level of skill.

I can assure you that if I was opening a paper mill, I would not be opening it some place with unskilled labor so spoiled and entitled that they thought $22 wasn't good enough, or some place where the economy was so screwed they might actually be right.

 

[initforme]

Why is a job vacancy a problem?

 

[Thinker101]

Perhaps if those jobs paid more they would be filled...22 bucks per hour doesn't provide a great living.

WTF!! Just like a liberal, first it's $15, now it's $22...what the hell how about $30

 

[depotoo]

A person that is not smart enough to research going rates and able to negotiate for themselves, deserve what they get. No one is forced to work for a particular company. You are advocating for big brother aka socialism.

My opinion is that we should have a bottom that is a minimum start pay for skills and/or for unskilled labor. This way a company will know that it can't make millions upon millions without paying at the least by ones skill set (a minimum wage) for that skilled labor, and/or a (flat minimum wage) for unskilled labor. This is reasoned out because of companies attempting to work skilled or unskilled labor below a wage that is neither moral and/or ethical. Example : A burger flipper should not be forced to work below a wage level that is deemed immoral and unethical against what should be an American standard set by each state that is then set for the unskilled as a start wage in the state.

Skilled labor should be set by the skill in which varies across the board. Example : A company working a truck driver should not be found attempting to pay the skilled driver less than say $18.00 dollars an hour minimum considering the requirements (government regulations) it takes to become a truck driver today. A welder the same or a skilled trained beginner utility lineman the same or a skilled plumber the same, a mechanic the same etc.. All areas where people have got to be trained prior to stepping on the employers job site should have a minimum standard wage set by either the federal government or a states set minimum standard for skilled labor in which respects the employees efforts to be trained and certified before being hired. We should have a standard in which protects the unskilled laborer from being exploited. The idea that a company can play games with people's pay in ways that add to a companies bottom line based on GREED, instead of allowing profit sharing and minimum standards to apply should be unexceptable to anyone in this country.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My opinion is that we should have a bottom that is a minimum start pay for skills and/or for unskilled labor. This way a company will know that it can't make millions upon millions without paying at the least by ones skill set (a minimum wage) for that skilled labor, and/or a (flat minimum wage) for unskilled labor. This is reasoned out because of companies attempting to work skilled or unskilled labor below a wage that is neither moral and/or ethical. Example : A burger flipper should not be forced to work below a wage level that is deemed immoral and unethical against what should be an American standard set by each state that is then set for the unskilled as a start wage in the state.

Skilled labor should be set by the skill in which varies across the board. Example : A company working a truck driver should not be found attempting to pay the skilled driver less than say $18.00 dollars an hour minimum considering the requirements (government regulations) it takes to become a truck driver today. A welder the same or a skilled trained beginner utility lineman the same or a skilled plumber the same, a mechanic the same etc.. All areas where people have got to be trained prior to stepping on the employers job site should have a minimum standard wage set by either the federal government or a states set minimum standard for skilled and unskilled labor in which respects the employees efforts to be trained and certified before being hired or protects the unskilled laborer from being exploited. The idea that a company can play games with people's pay in ways that add to a companies bottom line based on GREED, instead of allowing profit sharing and minimum standards to apply should be unexceptable to anyone in this country.

Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

Back in the 80's I went to electronics school by request of my employer. Working full time and going to school at night became a real drag very quickly, so I thought about quitting. First however, I wanted to find out what I might be missing.

So I asked my teacher what the pay scale was if I graduated with my FCC license which was one year of schooling, he told me about 16K. Unhappy with the answer, I asked what I would be able to make with an associates degree which was two years of schooling. He told me about 18K. Hell, I was making more than that at the job I had. So I quit.

Electronics was very hard. It was all math. So why such little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics.

Your value as an employee is only as much as your boss can find another to do the same quality of work as you do. That's it. It doesn't matter how much experience, how much you invested, how long you went to school, your value to an employer is all based on supply and demand.

 

[initforme]

The workers don't offer the job. The mill does.....nobody is forcing them to pay that wage. Blame the workers....typical of your type.

 

[danielpalos]

Employers aren't loyal to their employees. 22 dollars per hour is low. Although they do get time and a half for overtime. There are 10 positions open...some have been open for months.

Yeah, you probably make more off all the welfare benefits you get sitting on your duff, rather than contributing to society. A real mans man.


Not.

Depends on the job.

 

[depotoo]

Perhaps if those jobs paid more they would be filled...22 bucks per hour doesn't provide a great living.

$46 grand a year to start? You want a silver platter handed to you.

 

[initforme]

And if nobody wants to fill the kind then so be it. Companies either attract workers or they don't. Companies that cannot find workers are obviously had places to work.

 

[depotoo]

No, it doesn’t. Any wage is negotiable if you put in the time and effort, with good work ethic. If you feel they don’t, you move on.

Employers aren't loyal to their employees. 22 dollars per hour is low. Although they do get time and a half for overtime. There are 10 positions open...some have been open for months.

Yeah, you probably make more off all the welfare benefits you get sitting on your duff, rather than contributing to society. A real mans man.


Not.

Depends on the job.

 

[Rustic]

That’s why the countries have debt far too large to ever pay off,, just like us. And Europe depends on our military instead of paying for their own... the dead beats they are.

Actually their debt like ours is mainly due to having to bail out their economies when W bush and you idiots destroyed the world economy through shear corruption and greed.

That was a pocket change compared to a fucked up socialist entitlement programs that we get nothing out of.

Maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid parental leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid front of leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare etcetera you would understand what your family and friends would get out of it cheap colleg. Like most Dupes you need a 2 x 4 to the forehead LOL. And it appears you don't know about the W bush Republican World depression. Unbelievable.

Socialist entitlement programs are a fraud

Why?

Lousy implementation.

They should be limited use, no one should depend on them for anything

 

[initforme]

46 grand isn't even middle class anymore. Again the company offers that pay. Why are you harsh toward the workers?

 

[depotoo]

And if nobody wants to fill the kind then so be it. Companies either attract workers or they don't. Companies that cannot find workers are obviously had places to work.

Or it could be there is not enough labor.

 

[danielpalos]

No, it doesn’t. Any wage is negotiable if you put in the time and effort, with good work ethic. If you feel they don’t, you move on.

Employers aren't loyal to their employees. 22 dollars per hour is low. Although they do get time and a half for overtime. There are 10 positions open...some have been open for months.

Yeah, you probably make more off all the welfare benefits you get sitting on your duff, rather than contributing to society. A real mans man.


Not.

Depends on the job.

There is no unemployment Only underpayment under truer forms of Capitalism.

 

[danielpalos]

Actually their debt like ours is mainly due to having to bail out their economies when W bush and you idiots destroyed the world economy through shear corruption and greed.

That was a pocket change compared to a fucked up socialist entitlement programs that we get nothing out of.

Maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid parental leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid front of leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare etcetera you would understand what your family and friends would get out of it cheap colleg. Like most Dupes you need a 2 x 4 to the forehead LOL. And it appears you don't know about the W bush Republican World depression. Unbelievable.

Socialist entitlement programs are a fraud

Why?

Lousy implementation.

They should be limited use, no one should depend on them for anything

Why? Is there a time limit on Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

 

[depotoo]

46 grand isn't even middle class anymore. Again the company offers that pay. Why are you harsh toward the workers?

You expect to start at the top? An attitude such as yours will see you never make it to that middle class you speak of.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Why is a job vacancy a problem?

Because if it goes on long enough, the company is going to close up shop and move somewhere more reasonable and cost-effective to do business, and then you're left with nothing but your empty self-righteousness and a bunch of unemployed people.

 

[bripat9643]

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Even McDonald's acknowledges that their business was intended for children.
Holding businesses that are created with the employment of kids & college students responsible for the poor choices people make in life is wrong. If you're in your mid to late 20's or higher & working for minimum wage you have no one to blame but yourself. You're poor choices should not result in a 10.00 Big Mac or 4 dollar fry.

Kids have been shut out of these jobs by illegal aliens.

I went to Subways today, and there was a guy in his 50s behind the counter.

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[Cecilie1200]

The workers don't offer the job. The mill does.....nobody is forcing them to pay that wage. Blame the workers....typical of your type.

Yes, wages are just pulled out of people's asses at random, rather than being dictated by any sort of market forces.

I'll say it again: if your unskilled labor in your area thinks it's too good for $22 an hour, then they will have no one to blame but themselves when the employers take it on the road.

 

[Rustic]

That was a pocket change compared to a fucked up socialist entitlement programs that we get nothing out of.

Maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid parental leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid front of leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare etcetera you would understand what your family and friends would get out of it cheap colleg. Like most Dupes you need a 2 x 4 to the forehead LOL. And it appears you don't know about the W bush Republican World depression. Unbelievable.

Socialist entitlement programs are a fraud

Why?

Lousy implementation.

They should be limited use, no one should depend on them for anything

Why? Is there a time limit on Capitalism's natural rate of unemployment.

People need to take care of their own shit, and not depend on taking from other people