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Do you ever comment on policy or just personal insults?Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is disappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...You're brainwashed functional moron doesn't know a God damn true thing. I have a masters in history and I'm really tired of dealing with you GOP voters who are no more than trolls. You've been wrecking the middle class and the country for 35 years and it just gets worse and worse. No modern country has more inequality and Injustice. And you idiots know an encyclopedia of b******* character assassination of Democrats...It's a smartphone dingbat... Try and focus on the fact that you are totally f***** and brainwashed thanks to the greedy idiot Mega Rich GOP.
Excuses, excuses, always excuses with you people. I have a smartphone, and have no difficulty being coherent and understandable. Try and focus on the fact that you're an illiterate goober.
Ehrmagerd, one of the stupidest, most incoherent posters I've ever encountered thinks mean things about me! Whatever shall I do? Oh, wait, I know: *yawn*
You're really tired of dealing with people who dare to disagree with you instead of just accepting your automatic rightness in all things. Well, let me just get right on not giving a shit about that. Suck it up, buttercup, and either get used to a free society or go live in one of those many "better" modern societies you seem to think exist.
Finally, it's hard to assassinate the character of Democrats, since they don't seem to have any.
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
How is the prosecution of Hillary coming, super dupe? LOL breaking news for twits like you there is no evidence of any of her supposed corruption, just a gigantic pile of crap...Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is údisappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...You're brainwashed functional moron doesn't know a God damn true thing. I have a masters in history and I'm really tired of dealing with you GOP voters who are no more than trolls. You've been wrecking the middle class and the country for 35 years and it just gets worse and worse. No modern country has more inequality and Injustice. And you idiots know an encyclopedia of b******* character assassination of Democrats...It's a smartphone dingbat... Try and focus on the fact that you are totally f***** and brainwashed thanks to the greedy idiot Mega Rich GOP.
Excuses, excuses, always excuses with you people. I have a smartphone, and have no difficulty being coherent and understandable. Try and focus on the fact that you're an illiterate goober.
Ehrmagerd, one of the stupidest, most incoherent posters I've ever encountered thinks mean things about me! Whatever shall I do? Oh, wait, I know: *yawn*
You're really tired of dealing with people who dare to disagree with you instead of just accepting your automatic rightness in all things. Well, let me just get right on not giving a shit about that. Suck it up, buttercup, and either get used to a free society or go live in one of those many "better" modern societies you seem to think exist.
Finally, it's hard to assassinate the character of Democrats, since they don't seem to have any.
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
Maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid parental leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid front of leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare etcetera you would understand what your family and friends would get out of it cheap colleg. Like most Dupes you need a 2 x 4 to the forehead LOL. And it appears you don't know about the W bush Republican World depression. Unbelievable.That was a pocket change compared to a fucked up socialist entitlement programs that we get nothing out of.Actually their debt like ours is mainly due to having to bail out their economies when W bush and you idiots destroyed the world economy through shear corruption and greed.
Jesus, what is it with you illiterate leftists today? Looks like the first social program we need is free education in how to punctuate and write a coherent paragraph. Good grief.
The trumptards are the uneducated and uninformed buffoons. That's why you're only about 30% of the country. The rest of the country isn't populated with lowlife trumpscum.
And the normal people articulate just fine. Unlike the drunks and losers the kleptocrats prey on.
Yeah, you're really displaying your intelligence and English comprehension by calling ME a "Trumptard". You invalidated your entire post in your second word, Mensa Girl.
I always love it when you leftists try to assert your intelligence by making yourselves sound even more ignorant.
The explanation is simple, you are an idiot.Well, wait a minute. If the minimum wage is the means to prosperity, why stop at $15 an hour?
Why not go to $100 an hour?
Maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid parental leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid front of leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare etcetera you would understand what your family and friends would get out of it cheap colleg. Like most Dupes you need a 2 x 4 to the forehead LOL. And it appears you don't know about the W bush Republican World depression. Unbelievable.That was a pocket change compared to a fucked up socialist entitlement programs that we get nothing out of.Actually their debt like ours is mainly due to having to bail out their economies when W bush and you idiots destroyed the world economy through shear corruption and greed.That’s why the countries have debt far too large to ever pay off,, just like us. And Europe depends on our military instead of paying for their own... the dead beats they are.
Jesus, what is it with you illiterate leftists today? Looks like the first social program we need is free education in how to punctuate and write a coherent paragraph. Good grief.
The trumptards are the uneducated and uninformed buffoons. That's why you're only about 30% of the country. The rest of the country isn't populated with lowlife trumpscum.
And the normal people articulate just fine. Unlike the drunks and losers the kleptocrats prey on.
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Even McDonald's acknowledges that their business was intended for children.
Holding businesses that are created with the employment of kids & college students responsible for the poor choices people make in life is wrong. If you're in your mid to late 20's or higher & working for minimum wage you have no one to blame but yourself. You're poor choices should not result in a 10.00 Big Mac or 4 dollar fry.
so you pick a meme and think that's a truth?
reality: if you work 40 hours a week, you should be able to afford, food, shelter medicine and education.
Reality: if you work 40 hours a week, and can't afford food, shelter, medicine, and education (and coherent punctuation), that's on YOU, not your employer.
Imbeciles like you aren't worth concerning myself with punctuation.
Maybe you should concern yourself with the immorality of 1/3 of the country holding 70% hostage to your insanity, ignorance and bigotry.
Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country?
Do you ever comment on policy or just personal insults?Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is disappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...You're brainwashed functional moron doesn't know a God damn true thing. I have a masters in history and I'm really tired of dealing with you GOP voters who are no more than trolls. You've been wrecking the middle class and the country for 35 years and it just gets worse and worse. No modern country has more inequality and Injustice. And you idiots know an encyclopedia of b******* character assassination of Democrats...Excuses, excuses, always excuses with you people. I have a smartphone, and have no difficulty being coherent and understandable. Try and focus on the fact that you're an illiterate goober.
Ehrmagerd, one of the stupidest, most incoherent posters I've ever encountered thinks mean things about me! Whatever shall I do? Oh, wait, I know: *yawn*
You're really tired of dealing with people who dare to disagree with you instead of just accepting your automatic rightness in all things. Well, let me just get right on not giving a shit about that. Suck it up, buttercup, and either get used to a free society or go live in one of those many "better" modern societies you seem to think exist.
Finally, it's hard to assassinate the character of Democrats, since they don't seem to have any.
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
How is the prosecution of Hillary coming, super dupe? LOL breaking news for twits like you there is no evidence of any of her supposed corruption, just a gigantic pile of crap...Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is údisappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...You're brainwashed functional moron doesn't know a God damn true thing. I have a masters in history and I'm really tired of dealing with you GOP voters who are no more than trolls. You've been wrecking the middle class and the country for 35 years and it just gets worse and worse. No modern country has more inequality and Injustice. And you idiots know an encyclopedia of b******* character assassination of Democrats...Excuses, excuses, always excuses with you people. I have a smartphone, and have no difficulty being coherent and understandable. Try and focus on the fact that you're an illiterate goober.
Ehrmagerd, one of the stupidest, most incoherent posters I've ever encountered thinks mean things about me! Whatever shall I do? Oh, wait, I know: *yawn*
You're really tired of dealing with people who dare to disagree with you instead of just accepting your automatic rightness in all things. Well, let me just get right on not giving a shit about that. Suck it up, buttercup, and either get used to a free society or go live in one of those many "better" modern societies you seem to think exist.
Finally, it's hard to assassinate the character of Democrats, since they don't seem to have any.
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
Jesus you got nothing at all... LOL!Do you ever comment on policy or just personal insults?Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is disappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...You're brainwashed functional moron doesn't know a God damn true thing. I have a masters in history and I'm really tired of dealing with you GOP voters who are no more than trolls. You've been wrecking the middle class and the country for 35 years and it just gets worse and worse. No modern country has more inequality and Injustice. And you idiots know an encyclopedia of b******* character assassination of Democrats...
Ehrmagerd, one of the stupidest, most incoherent posters I've ever encountered thinks mean things about me! Whatever shall I do? Oh, wait, I know: *yawn*
You're really tired of dealing with people who dare to disagree with you instead of just accepting your automatic rightness in all things. Well, let me just get right on not giving a shit about that. Suck it up, buttercup, and either get used to a free society or go live in one of those many "better" modern societies you seem to think exist.
Finally, it's hard to assassinate the character of Democrats, since they don't seem to have any.
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
How is the prosecution of Hillary coming, super dupe? LOL breaking news for twits like you there is no evidence of any of her supposed corruption, just a gigantic pile of crap...Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is údisappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...You're brainwashed functional moron doesn't know a God damn true thing. I have a masters in history and I'm really tired of dealing with you GOP voters who are no more than trolls. You've been wrecking the middle class and the country for 35 years and it just gets worse and worse. No modern country has more inequality and Injustice. And you idiots know an encyclopedia of b******* character assassination of Democrats...
Ehrmagerd, one of the stupidest, most incoherent posters I've ever encountered thinks mean things about me! Whatever shall I do? Oh, wait, I know: *yawn*
You're really tired of dealing with people who dare to disagree with you instead of just accepting your automatic rightness in all things. Well, let me just get right on not giving a shit about that. Suck it up, buttercup, and either get used to a free society or go live in one of those many "better" modern societies you seem to think exist.
Finally, it's hard to assassinate the character of Democrats, since they don't seem to have any.
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
If you have to ask, you're too dumb to understand the answer. Run along.
Maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid parental leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid front of leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare etcetera you would understand what your family and friends would get out of it cheap colleg. Like most Dupes you need a 2 x 4 to the forehead LOL. And it appears you don't know about the W bush Republican World depression. Unbelievable.That was a pocket change compared to a fucked up socialist entitlement programs that we get nothing out of.Actually their debt like ours is mainly due to having to bail out their economies when W bush and you idiots destroyed the world economy through shear corruption and greed.
Jesus, what is it with you illiterate leftists today? Looks like the first social program we need is free education in how to punctuate and write a coherent paragraph. Good grief.
The trumptards are the uneducated and uninformed buffoons. That's why you're only about 30% of the country. The rest of the country isn't populated with lowlife trumpscum.
And the normal people articulate just fine. Unlike the drunks and losers the kleptocrats prey on.
Why didn't the other 70 % elect The Hag then?
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. Y'all talk about this perfect world senario where the rich guy is always the good guy, and the poor people are just a bunch of leeches trying to kill off their host, but in many many cases it has not been the case.A person that is not smart enough to research going rates and able to negotiate for themselves, deserve what they get. No one is forced to work for a particular company. You are advocating for big brother aka socialism.My opinion is that we should have a bottom that is a minimum start pay for skills and/or for unskilled labor. This way a company will know that it can't make millions upon millions without paying at the least by ones skill set (a minimum wage) for that skilled labor, and/or a (flat minimum wage) for unskilled labor. This is reasoned out because of companies attempting to work skilled or unskilled labor below a wage that is neither moral and/or ethical. Example : A burger flipper should not be forced to work below a wage level that is deemed immoral and unethical against what should be an American standard set by each state that is then set for the unskilled as a start wage in the state.
Skilled labor should be set by the skill in which varies across the board. Example : A company working a truck driver should not be found attempting to pay the skilled driver less than say $18.00 dollars an hour minimum considering the requirements (government regulations) it takes to become a truck driver today. A welder the same or a skilled trained beginner utility lineman the same or a skilled plumber the same, a mechanic the same etc.. All areas where people have got to be trained prior to stepping on the employers job site should have a minimum standard wage set by either the federal government or a states set minimum standard for skilled labor in which respects the employees efforts to be trained and certified before being hired. We should have a standard in which protects the unskilled laborer from being exploited. The idea that a company can play games with people's pay in ways that add to a companies bottom line based on GREED, instead of allowing profit sharing and minimum standards to apply should be unexceptable to anyone in this country.
Jesus you got nothing at all... LOL!Do you ever comment on policy or just personal insults?Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is disappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...Ehrmagerd, one of the stupidest, most incoherent posters I've ever encountered thinks mean things about me! Whatever shall I do? Oh, wait, I know: *yawn*
You're really tired of dealing with people who dare to disagree with you instead of just accepting your automatic rightness in all things. Well, let me just get right on not giving a shit about that. Suck it up, buttercup, and either get used to a free society or go live in one of those many "better" modern societies you seem to think exist.
Finally, it's hard to assassinate the character of Democrats, since they don't seem to have any.
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
How is the prosecution of Hillary coming, super dupe? LOL breaking news for twits like you there is no evidence of any of her supposed corruption, just a gigantic pile of crap...Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is údisappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...Ehrmagerd, one of the stupidest, most incoherent posters I've ever encountered thinks mean things about me! Whatever shall I do? Oh, wait, I know: *yawn*
You're really tired of dealing with people who dare to disagree with you instead of just accepting your automatic rightness in all things. Well, let me just get right on not giving a shit about that. Suck it up, buttercup, and either get used to a free society or go live in one of those many "better" modern societies you seem to think exist.
Finally, it's hard to assassinate the character of Democrats, since they don't seem to have any.
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
If you have to ask, you're too dumb to understand the answer. Run along.
Wait I thought the leftists wanted to tax us to prosperity?
I, for one, thought it to be a very good question. So, bleh.
Maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid parental leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare maybe if we had some of those socialist entitlement programs like a living wage paid front of leave free healthcare a month paid vacation daycare etcetera you would understand what your family and friends would get out of it cheap colleg. Like most Dupes you need a 2 x 4 to the forehead LOL. And it appears you don't know about the W bush Republican World depression. Unbelievable.That was a pocket change compared to a fucked up socialist entitlement programs that we get nothing out of.
Jesus, what is it with you illiterate leftists today? Looks like the first social program we need is free education in how to punctuate and write a coherent paragraph. Good grief.
The trumptards are the uneducated and uninformed buffoons. That's why you're only about 30% of the country. The rest of the country isn't populated with lowlife trumpscum.
And the normal people articulate just fine. Unlike the drunks and losers the kleptocrats prey on.
Why didn't the other 70 % elect The Hag then?
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your treasonous orange sexual predator got 3 million fewer votes. We did elect her.
Or does "we the people" only apply to rightwingnuts?
I don't go to sleep for hours but I'm getting away from you troll... Total waste of time...Jesus you got nothing at all... LOL!Do you ever comment on policy or just personal insults?Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is disappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
How is the prosecution of Hillary coming, super dupe? LOL breaking news for twits like you there is no evidence of any of her supposed corruption, just a gigantic pile of crap...Everything you know about the character of Democrats is garbage and fake news, dupe. Are you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country? and the middle class is údisappearing? All because of GOP tax policy the last 35 years and it's just getting worse...
Well, if YOU tell me it's wrong, that certainly means something . . . something very similar to what my son picks up after taking the dog for a walk, if you catch my drift.
Am I wasting time deciding whether or not I'm proud of a circumstance that exists only in your own fevered imagination? Am I spending any time taking that seriously and allowing it to serve as a parameter for . . . well, anything, really? Guess.
If you have to ask, you're too dumb to understand the answer. Run along.
Uh huh. Right. Whatever allows you to go to sleep feeling validated, twerp. Now seriously, run along. I'm moving on to meaningful discussions with people who actually deserve to be treated seriously.
. Wait, so how was he able to tell you these base pays you enquired about when choosing your skill ?? Who set them ???My opinion is that we should have a bottom that is a minimum start pay for skills and/or for unskilled labor. This way a company will know that it can't make millions upon millions without paying at the least by ones skill set (a minimum wage) for that skilled labor, and/or a (flat minimum wage) for unskilled labor. This is reasoned out because of companies attempting to work skilled or unskilled labor below a wage that is neither moral and/or ethical. Example : A burger flipper should not be forced to work below a wage level that is deemed immoral and unethical against what should be an American standard set by each state that is then set for the unskilled as a start wage in the state.
Skilled labor should be set by the skill in which varies across the board. Example : A company working a truck driver should not be found attempting to pay the skilled driver less than say $18.00 dollars an hour minimum considering the requirements (government regulations) it takes to become a truck driver today. A welder the same or a skilled trained beginner utility lineman the same or a skilled plumber the same, a mechanic the same etc.. All areas where people have got to be trained prior to stepping on the employers job site should have a minimum standard wage set by either the federal government or a states set minimum standard for skilled and unskilled labor in which respects the employees efforts to be trained and certified before being hired or protects the unskilled laborer from being exploited. The idea that a company can play games with people's pay in ways that add to a companies bottom line based on GREED, instead of allowing profit sharing and minimum standards to apply should be unexceptable to anyone in this country.
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
Back in the 80's I went to electronics school by request of my employer. Working full time and going to school at night became a real drag very quickly, so I thought about quitting. First however, I wanted to find out what I might be missing.
So I asked my teacher what the pay scale was if I graduated with my FCC license which was one year of schooling, he told me about 16K. Unhappy with the answer, I asked what I would be able to make with an associates degree which was two years of schooling. He told me about 18K. Hell, I was making more than that at the job I had. So I quit.
Electronics was very hard. It was all math. So why such little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics.
Your value as an employee is only as much as your boss can find another to do the same quality of work as you do. That's it. It doesn't matter how much experience, how much you invested, how long you went to school, your value to an employer is all based on supply and demand.
Any other modern country where they get Healthcare cheap education college and training, very cheap daycare and paid parental leave and a living wage etc etc. And no I'm not leaving my country and anyway you can't unless you're a millionaire or a doctor...any other modern country where are they get Healthcare cheap education education in college and training, very cheap daycare and paid parental leaveAre you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country?
Our so-called poor live better than some working people. What other country would you rather be poor in if not the United States?
The guy flipping burgers isn't risking spinal injuries for your viewing enjoyment.There is a concurrent board that questions high paid athletes kneeling, a slice of humble pie is in order. They play children' s games and get paid way more than a guy flipping burgers. I don't care what a quarterback does, but the guy that flips MY burger deserves a little more. Please.
Any other modern country where they get Healthcare cheap education college and training, very cheap daycare and paid parental leave and a living wage etc etc. And no I'm not leaving my country and anyway you can't unless you're a millionaire or a doctor...any other modern country where are they get Healthcare cheap education education in college and training, very cheap daycare and paid parental leaveAre you proud of the fact that the poor in the United States are worse off than in every other modernization country?
Our so-called poor live better than some working people. What other country would you rather be poor in if not the United States?
. Wait, so how was he able to tell you these base pays you enquired about when choosing your skill ?? Who set them ???My opinion is that we should have a bottom that is a minimum start pay for skills and/or for unskilled labor. This way a company will know that it can't make millions upon millions without paying at the least by ones skill set (a minimum wage) for that skilled labor, and/or a (flat minimum wage) for unskilled labor. This is reasoned out because of companies attempting to work skilled or unskilled labor below a wage that is neither moral and/or ethical. Example : A burger flipper should not be forced to work below a wage level that is deemed immoral and unethical against what should be an American standard set by each state that is then set for the unskilled as a start wage in the state.
Skilled labor should be set by the skill in which varies across the board. Example : A company working a truck driver should not be found attempting to pay the skilled driver less than say $18.00 dollars an hour minimum considering the requirements (government regulations) it takes to become a truck driver today. A welder the same or a skilled trained beginner utility lineman the same or a skilled plumber the same, a mechanic the same etc.. All areas where people have got to be trained prior to stepping on the employers job site should have a minimum standard wage set by either the federal government or a states set minimum standard for skilled and unskilled labor in which respects the employees efforts to be trained and certified before being hired or protects the unskilled laborer from being exploited. The idea that a company can play games with people's pay in ways that add to a companies bottom line based on GREED, instead of allowing profit sharing and minimum standards to apply should be unexceptable to anyone in this country.
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
Back in the 80's I went to electronics school by request of my employer. Working full time and going to school at night became a real drag very quickly, so I thought about quitting. First however, I wanted to find out what I might be missing.
So I asked my teacher what the pay scale was if I graduated with my FCC license which was one year of schooling, he told me about 16K. Unhappy with the answer, I asked what I would be able to make with an associates degree which was two years of schooling. He told me about 18K. Hell, I was making more than that at the job I had. So I quit.
Electronics was very hard. It was all math. So why such little pay? Because everybody and their mother was interested in electronics.
Your value as an employee is only as much as your boss can find another to do the same quality of work as you do. That's it. It doesn't matter how much experience, how much you invested, how long you went to school, your value to an employer is all based on supply and demand.
