Tonights Debate live 6-27-24

[Auld Phart]

Not even close. I'll give Trump this. He bashed Biden and Biden did not have good comebacks. I would have done better. Gavin would have done better. Joe's too old to be debating but the fact is, no one trusts Trump. Trust. And if you think Biden is on the same level as Trump as far as lying, then you're going to vote for Trump. Go for it. I'm white, a man, straight, can pretend I'm a Christian, too old to get abortions, college educated.

To be honest, I will be just fine when they cut social security 20%. It might mean I have to tap into my $avings but what do I care? I don't have any kids I need to worry about. I asked my brother something about how much he will leave his kids and he said "I don't care. I've given them everything so they should not rely on my money" but then the more we talked the more I realized he isn't going to touch the $9 million he has. The interest he makes is more than enough to live on. He's not even 55 so he even has to pay for healthcare for him and his wife, and it's expensive, but even with that and his baller lifestyle, he will probably end up having more money when he dies than he had today.

So I am no longer worrying about what I leave my nephews. They'll be millionaires by the time they are 65, even if they don't save a penny between now and then.

So long story short, I'm going to spend the $1 million I should have by the time I'm 62. The hope is I don't even need to touch the principal. $50K a year interest plus social security. I should be fine. Even if they cut social security 20% to "save" the program.

If Trump wins, I can't wait for them to cut social security 20%. I literally can't wait till all you broke ass Americans get hit with that. And they blame Democrats. I hope they do. I hope you believe it was Democrats who did it to you. Who cut your SOCIALISM!

And if you think Biden is on the same level as Trump as far as lying, then you're going to vote for Trump.

haven't yet, see no reason to do so in the future.

 

[el midgetron]

 

[Faun]

It’s still working on you I see.

Who knows what you see?

I showed you a post of mine from 3½ years ago saying then, he was too old and senile.

 

[el midgetron]

I am still struck by how the establishment media came out in unison and declared Biden lost. They have covered for senile Joe a thousand times before.

 

[el midgetron]

 

[dblack]

I am still struck by how the establishment media came out in unison and declared Biden lost. They have covered for senile Joe a thousand times before.

The whole thing was a cathartic release for everyone who's been desperately (if quietly) hoping that Biden would step aside. Now they can push him in that direction with clear justification. They kind of threw Biden under the bus in that regard, letting him make a fool of himself to make their point, but they knew they'd lose if the didn't rip off the scab and retool.

 

[mudwhistle]

New polls will be out in a couple days
Should be a wake-up call to Biden

Unless he comes to the realization that he can’t win, Dems can’t replace him

Biden needs to pull an LBJ and withdraw

So why did you people lie to us all these years and try to convince us that he was doing just fine?

 

[mudwhistle]

A lot of people who were undecided last night might lean Trump but you are right. There are a lot of Republicans and undecideds who won't vote for Trump because they don't trust him.

Look how much he lied last night. I hope the one lie does him in. Remember he said

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Where's Trump's shirt?

I didn't hear him lie.

Trump may have a difference of opinion from you lying liberals, but he wasn't lying.

He was clearly being honest. The only way you can claim Trump lied is by changing context and parsing words. You have to be dishonest to make it look like Trump is a liar.



It doesn't matter if Biden quits or not. The same people that have been running the government into the ground are still going to be doing it till January.

If a Democrat stays in the White House this country will continue to crumble and become a weak second-rate country like England. Frankly I think that's what Democrats want more than anything.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

 

[sealybobo]

haven't yet, see no reason to do so in the future.

Bull. Reagan raised retirement age in the 80's remember? He did it to future generations.

That's what I hope they do. Don't cut my ss. I'm mid 50's. Do it to people 40 and younger. Hispanic Immigrants. Make them pay in but get less out when they retire. They'll be happy with whatever they get. That's in exchange for them going through the normal immigration process.

 

[sealybobo]

I didn't hear him lie.

Trump may have a difference of opinion from you lying liberals, but he wasn't lying.

He was clearly being honest. The only way you can claim Trump lied is by changing context and parsing words. You have to be dishonest to make it look like Trump is a liar.



It doesn't matter if Biden quits or not. The same people that have been running the government into the ground are still going to be doing it till January.

If a Democrat stays in the White House this country will continue to crumble and become a weak second-rate country like England. Frankly I think that's what Democrats want more than anything.

He didn't have sex with a porn star? Let's start with that lie.

Trump was great last night. I figured out why. So much is riding on this election for him personally. A LOT of trouble goes away if he becomes POTUS. He did a great job I'll give him that. He delivered your message without the crazy.

 

[Auld Phart]

Bull. Reagan raised retirement age in the 80's remember? He did it to future generations.

That's what I hope they do. Don't cut my ss. I'm mid 50's. Do it to people 40 and younger. Hispanic Immigrants. Make them pay in but get less out when they retire. They'll be happy with whatever they get. That's in exchange for them going through the normal immigration process.

I was referring to voting for Trump.

(are you channeling Biden?)

 

[sealybobo]

Looks like they got the message that if they unfairly interrupted Trump they'd pay a price, so they haven't argued with him.

Biden is doing his closing statement and fucking it up royally.

I would have had a 2 minute tape of Trump saying all the horrible things he's said.

Hardly mentioned the Georgia case.

Fake electors

Rudy found guilty and owes money

Classified documents. Why did you lie to FBI Donald and not give them back?

There's plenty of evidence in the upcoming trials but Trump explained them all away last night and Biden didn't fight back. Oh well. Guess we are going to have to run more commercials to educate voters.

 

[justoffal]

Brandon looked like C3PO

Haldol products

 

[rightwinger]

Bull. Reagan raised retirement age in the 80's remember? He did it to future generations.

That's what I hope they do. Don't cut my ss. I'm mid 50's. Do it to people 40 and younger. Hispanic Immigrants. Make them pay in but get less out when they retire. They'll be happy with whatever they get. That's in exchange for them going through the normal immigration process.

Your SS is based on your top 30 years of contributions
Most immigrants do not have that and would get less

 

[sealybobo]

New polls will be out in a couple days
Should be a wake-up call to Biden

Unless he comes to the realization that he can’t win, Dems can’t replace him

Biden needs to pull an LBJ and withdraw

And kick Kamala to the curb. Republicans have enough video on her to show people she's nuts

The Governor and I and we were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time. Right? The significance of the passage of time.

So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to do to create these jobs. And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children and what that means to the future of our nation, depending on whether or not they have the resources they need to achieve their God-given talent.

 

[sealybobo]

Your SS is based on your top 30 years of contributions
Most immigrants do not have that and would get less

I'm saying whatever the formula is now, make them pay just as much in but the payout is 20% less and they can't draw till 67.

That's if they didn't go through the normal immigration process. All those people seeking asylum, this would be their deal. They'll work for 30 plus years, pay in, and never make it to 67. Work themselves to the bone.

AND, immigrants can't take the money back to Mexico/South America. We deposite in an American bank and you pay a tax moving the money out of the country. OR, come here, withdraw the money, spend some of it while you are here, and walk south illegally across the border back to your country. Don't get caught with all that money though. Border patrol or Human Trafficers will take that shit. Nothing over $10K.

 

[sealybobo]

haven't yet, see no reason to do so in the future.

You know what pisses me off? When my dad tells me he got a bump in SS. Why are we giving seniors who have a lot of money in the bank raises to ss? Freeze what they get. Never give them an increase. What you get now is what you get, till you die.

If ss is going broke in 10 years, stop giving COLA increases. God damn.

But they want those senior votes. Hopefully they want mine too. But Republicans in 10 years will blame Democrats.

 

[rightwinger]

And kick Kamala to the curb. Republicans have enough video on her to show people she's nuts

The Governor and I and we were all doing a tour of the library here and talking about the significance of the passage of time. Right? The significance of the passage of time.

So, when you think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to do to create these jobs. And there is such great significance to the passage of time when we think about a day in the life of our children and what that means to the future of our nation, depending on whether or not they have the resources they need to achieve their God-given talent.

I think Biden and his family realize he should not go further for his physical well being and for the good of the Country.

I think a fresh Democratic candidate would throw Trump for a loop. He already has a strategy for Kamala and will jump all over her.

A candidate like Whitmer, Moore, Newsom or Shapiro do not carry the political baggage and would offer sharp contrast to Trump

 

[rightwinger]

You know what pisses me off? When my dad tells me he got a bump in SS. Why are we giving seniors who have a lot of money in the bank raises to ss? Freeze what they get. Never give them an increase. What you get now is what you get, till you die.

If ss is going broke in 10 years, stop giving COLA increases. God damn.

But they want those senior votes. Hopefully they want mine too. But Republicans in 10 years will blame Democrats.

Seniors suffer from inflation like anyone else
COLAs are necessary