Trump: 75 year old man pushed by police faked his fall

[Mac-7]

Meaning obama was racist?

If so I agree

Who knows how you get that ^^^ from this vvv

"I don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts, what role race played in that. But I think it's fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home, and, number three, what I think we know separate and apart from this incident is that there's a long history in this country of African Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately."​

If race is “separate and apart from this incident” why is obama babbling on about it?

obama was the racist for casting aspersions on a white cop based only on his skin color

 

[ColtMadeMenEqual]

Donald Trump believes the 75 year old man who sustained injuries after being pushed to the ground by Buffalo police was not only faking it, but "could be" ANTIFA member, without citing evidence.
And to think that a couple of days ago his advisers were floating a speech to unite and heal the country:

Reminds me of how Barry said the police had acted racistly against his professor buddy BEFORE he knew what the hell he was talking about.... they should really learn to say nothing until they know the facts.

If you are speaking about the guy who was harassed for trying to get into his own home, that was racism.

He was briefly detained and questioned. Personally if the police were called because someone was entering my home through the window instead of the door I would want that person briefly detained and questioned. Even if that person were me.

Gates didn't climb through a window.

Factually correct, he was just seen trying to force his front door open and the cops were called to investigate. Either way I would hope the cops WOULD investigate if it were my home. Racism would have been "eh that's a black guy's house, don't investigate"

Investigating him wasn't the issue. Arresting him was. It was the cop's call to make and he could have arrested him or just walked away. Why arrest someone who proved they were in their own residence just because they became belligerent for having to prove they were rightfully in their own residence? There was no reason to arrest him as evidenced by the charges being dropped.

And that is why , for example, more black teens are arrested for marijuana posession than whites. Or ultimately it is how people end up dead over shit light a stupid arrest for selling cigarettes without a license.

Don't fight with the fucking police. Don't be a belligerent asshole. No shit if you piss a cop off and then they have a choice on whether to cite you or arrest you they are going to get their revenge by arresting you. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that point?

I've been stopped for triple digit speeding and walked away with a warning. Why ? Because I wasn't an asshole about it, I did something wrong. I just took my medicine, I wasn't a dick to the cop , no reason to end up tased or dead over a speeding ticket.

Are you saying a Harvard Professor wasn't smart enough to understand this?

I'm saying some people don't respect the police. That's not a reason to be arrested or abused by them.

I don't disagree

What I am saying, is that if you are an asshole to someone who has the power to arrest you for crimes you have committed, you're stupid.

OR you just believe you're above the law.

Does anyone believe a Harvard professor is stupid?

Nope, this guy thought "I know the President of the US, so I'm above the law" and was an asshole to the cop who then arrested him for the crime he DID commit.

Do YOU believe that that type of behavior helps anyone? Isn't it more likely that this cop walked away from that whole incident more determined than ever to arrest blacks who broke the law? Of course it is.

Respect goes both ways.

He committed no crime. That isn't going to stop you though is it?

Disorderly conduct is a crime. One that a police officer can use discretion on whether to make an arrest or not. Gates DID commit that crime. That's why he was arrested.

That charge was later dropped, but dropping the charges doesn't mean the crime wasn't committed.

Now seriously, if you're not even serious enough about your own beliefs to have a honest discussion, why should I or anyone else take you seriously?

 

[Mac-7]

Donald Trump believes the 75 year old man who sustained injuries after being pushed to the ground by Buffalo police was not only faking it, but "could be" ANTIFA member, without citing evidence.
And to think that a couple of days ago his advisers were floating a speech to unite and heal the country:

The old man was a liberal asshole

but I dont think the fall was faked

A "Liberal asshole" for trying to return a helmet to the police?

LOLOL

You morons get sillier by the day.

A "Liberal asshole" for trying to return a helmet to the police?

is that what elderly protester claims or did yiu just make that up?

I'm not aware he's said anything. I read it online.

Pknopp already conceded it was not true

Except, no, he didn't... and... Gugino is seen on video approaching police with one of their helmets... and it's been reported he was attempting to return it.

Who reported it?

is there a link for that?

Buffalo Police injure a 75-year old protester | The Bay Observer

There is no new information in your link so nothing to excuse the old man from defying der fuhrer’s command to leave the area

 

[pknopp]

Donald Trump believes the 75 year old man who sustained injuries after being pushed to the ground by Buffalo police was not only faking it, but "could be" ANTIFA member, without citing evidence.
And to think that a couple of days ago his advisers were floating a speech to unite and heal the country:

Reminds me of how Barry said the police had acted racistly against his professor buddy BEFORE he knew what the hell he was talking about.... they should really learn to say nothing until they know the facts.

If you are speaking about the guy who was harassed for trying to get into his own home, that was racism.

He was briefly detained and questioned. Personally if the police were called because someone was entering my home through the window instead of the door I would want that person briefly detained and questioned. Even if that person were me.

Gates didn't climb through a window.

Factually correct, he was just seen trying to force his front door open and the cops were called to investigate. Either way I would hope the cops WOULD investigate if it were my home. Racism would have been "eh that's a black guy's house, don't investigate"

Investigating him wasn't the issue. Arresting him was. It was the cop's call to make and he could have arrested him or just walked away. Why arrest someone who proved they were in their own residence just because they became belligerent for having to prove they were rightfully in their own residence? There was no reason to arrest him as evidenced by the charges being dropped.

And that is why , for example, more black teens are arrested for marijuana posession than whites. Or ultimately it is how people end up dead over shit light a stupid arrest for selling cigarettes without a license.

Don't fight with the fucking police. Don't be a belligerent asshole. No shit if you piss a cop off and then they have a choice on whether to cite you or arrest you they are going to get their revenge by arresting you. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that point?

I've been stopped for triple digit speeding and walked away with a warning. Why ? Because I wasn't an asshole about it, I did something wrong. I just took my medicine, I wasn't a dick to the cop , no reason to end up tased or dead over a speeding ticket.

Are you saying a Harvard Professor wasn't smart enough to understand this?

I'm saying some people don't respect the police. That's not a reason to be arrested or abused by them.

I don't disagree

What I am saying, is that if you are an asshole to someone who has the power to arrest you for crimes you have committed, you're stupid.

OR you just believe you're above the law.

Does anyone believe a Harvard professor is stupid?

Nope, this guy thought "I know the President of the US, so I'm above the law" and was an asshole to the cop who then arrested him for the crime he DID commit.

Do YOU believe that that type of behavior helps anyone? Isn't it more likely that this cop walked away from that whole incident more determined than ever to arrest blacks who broke the law? Of course it is.

Respect goes both ways.

He committed no crime. That isn't going to stop you though is it?

Disorderly conduct is a crime. One that a police officer can use discretion on whether to make an arrest or not. Gates DID commit that crime. That's why he was arrested.

That charge was later dropped, but dropping the charges doesn't mean the crime wasn't committed.

Now seriously, if you're not even serious enough about your own beliefs to have a honest discussion, why should I or anyone else take you seriously?

There was no crime. Charges were dropped because there was no crime. He did nothing illegal.

 

[bendog]

Donald Trump believes the 75 year old man who sustained injuries after being pushed to the ground by Buffalo police was not only faking it, but "could be" ANTIFA member, without citing evidence.
And to think that a couple of days ago his advisers were floating a speech to unite and heal the country:

Reminds me of how Barry said the police had acted racistly against his professor buddy BEFORE he knew what the hell he was talking about.... they should really learn to say nothing until they know the facts.

If you are speaking about the guy who was harassed for trying to get into his own home, that was racism.

He was briefly detained and questioned. Personally if the police were called because someone was entering my home through the window instead of the door I would want that person briefly detained and questioned. Even if that person were me.

Gates didn't climb through a window.

Factually correct, he was just seen trying to force his front door open and the cops were called to investigate. Either way I would hope the cops WOULD investigate if it were my home. Racism would have been "eh that's a black guy's house, don't investigate"

Investigating him wasn't the issue. Arresting him was. It was the cop's call to make and he could have arrested him or just walked away. Why arrest someone who proved they were in their own residence just because they became belligerent for having to prove they were rightfully in their own residence? There was no reason to arrest him as evidenced by the charges being dropped.

And that is why , for example, more black teens are arrested for marijuana posession than whites. Or ultimately it is how people end up dead over shit light a stupid arrest for selling cigarettes without a license.

Don't fight with the fucking police. Don't be a belligerent asshole. No shit if you piss a cop off and then they have a choice on whether to cite you or arrest you they are going to get their revenge by arresting you. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that point?

I've been stopped for triple digit speeding and walked away with a warning. Why ? Because I wasn't an asshole about it, I did something wrong. I just took my medicine, I wasn't a dick to the cop , no reason to end up tased or dead over a speeding ticket.

Are you saying a Harvard Professor wasn't smart enough to understand this?

I'm saying some people don't respect the police. That's not a reason to be arrested or abused by them.

I don't disagree

What I am saying, is that if you are an asshole to someone who has the power to arrest you for crimes you have committed, you're stupid.

OR you just believe you're above the law.

Does anyone believe a Harvard professor is stupid?

Nope, this guy thought "I know the President of the US, so I'm above the law" and was an asshole to the cop who then arrested him for the crime he DID commit.

Do YOU believe that that type of behavior helps anyone? Isn't it more likely that this cop walked away from that whole incident more determined than ever to arrest blacks who broke the law? Of course it is.

Respect goes both ways.

He committed no crime. That isn't going to stop you though is it?

No, but they aren't fooling anyone else and probably not themselves. It will be interesting when Trump restarts his rallies. What's he going to rant about? Knocking over 75 year old men and putting them in a hospital? Tear gassing priests? Suburban moms have no reason to be less pissed off over his messing with their kids healthcare and DeVos and education. The gop got their asses handed to them in 2016 over that. Immigration?

Trump's defined himself.

 

[ColtMadeMenEqual]

Donald Trump believes the 75 year old man who sustained injuries after being pushed to the ground by Buffalo police was not only faking it, but "could be" ANTIFA member, without citing evidence.
And to think that a couple of days ago his advisers were floating a speech to unite and heal the country:

Reminds me of how Barry said the police had acted racistly against his professor buddy BEFORE he knew what the hell he was talking about.... they should really learn to say nothing until they know the facts.

If you are speaking about the guy who was harassed for trying to get into his own home, that was racism.

He was briefly detained and questioned. Personally if the police were called because someone was entering my home through the window instead of the door I would want that person briefly detained and questioned. Even if that person were me.

Gates didn't climb through a window.

Factually correct, he was just seen trying to force his front door open and the cops were called to investigate. Either way I would hope the cops WOULD investigate if it were my home. Racism would have been "eh that's a black guy's house, don't investigate"

Investigating him wasn't the issue. Arresting him was. It was the cop's call to make and he could have arrested him or just walked away. Why arrest someone who proved they were in their own residence just because they became belligerent for having to prove they were rightfully in their own residence? There was no reason to arrest him as evidenced by the charges being dropped.

And that is why , for example, more black teens are arrested for marijuana posession than whites. Or ultimately it is how people end up dead over shit light a stupid arrest for selling cigarettes without a license.

Don't fight with the fucking police. Don't be a belligerent asshole. No shit if you piss a cop off and then they have a choice on whether to cite you or arrest you they are going to get their revenge by arresting you. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that point?

I've been stopped for triple digit speeding and walked away with a warning. Why ? Because I wasn't an asshole about it, I did something wrong. I just took my medicine, I wasn't a dick to the cop , no reason to end up tased or dead over a speeding ticket.

Are you saying a Harvard Professor wasn't smart enough to understand this?

I'm saying some people don't respect the police. That's not a reason to be arrested or abused by them.

I don't disagree

What I am saying, is that if you are an asshole to someone who has the power to arrest you for crimes you have committed, you're stupid.

OR you just believe you're above the law.

Does anyone believe a Harvard professor is stupid?

Nope, this guy thought "I know the President of the US, so I'm above the law" and was an asshole to the cop who then arrested him for the crime he DID commit.

Do YOU believe that that type of behavior helps anyone? Isn't it more likely that this cop walked away from that whole incident more determined than ever to arrest blacks who broke the law? Of course it is.

Respect goes both ways.

He committed no crime. That isn't going to stop you though is it?

Disorderly conduct is a crime. One that a police officer can use discretion on whether to make an arrest or not. Gates DID commit that crime. That's why he was arrested.

That charge was later dropped, but dropping the charges doesn't mean the crime wasn't committed.

Now seriously, if you're not even serious enough about your own beliefs to have a honest discussion, why should I or anyone else take you seriously?

There was no crime. Charges were dropped because there was no crime. He did nothing illegal.

You're a child. I surrender to your immaturity..

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I read somewhere where Buffalo's Mayor stated he was a long-time "activist" and had been asked to stay out of the area,

What does that have to do with anything?

trump got his stupid conspiracy lie from russian operatives off oann.

Now even conservatives are disgusted with him. One of them replied with a simple plead. "Just Stop."

You and those like you keep defending the indefensible. Which is why you use the stupid garbage you used above.

No one should be shoved to the cement ground, causing them to end up in an intensive care unit in serious condition.

Being politically active is no excuse to assault someone causing them to end up in an intensive care unit in serious condition.

It's just like when a normal person is told "I can't breathe" that normal person immediately stops doing whatever it is that's causing the other person to not be able to breathe. It's as simple as that.

What is so hard about that for you to understand?

If you don't want to stick with the honest facts of this case that's fine but you're just making a fool of yourself.

I notice not one word about my question. Why is that? Are you too much of a coward to admit that you wouldn't like a cop to have done that to anyone at the anti shutdown protests and what that cop did was not just wrong but also criminal? Are you too much of a coward to say you wouldn't like it if trump sent out a conspiracy lie he got from some russian operative about someone who was at the anti shutdown protests and injured that way by the cops?

Grow a spine.

I have already stated my opinion on both the cop and the perp.

 

[Mac-7]

So? He has the right to do that. It's called freedom of speech.

Not so

the cops have a right to do their job without verbal abuse from a conceited old black professor

He got off lighter than this angry black woman

 

[pknopp]

Donald Trump believes the 75 year old man who sustained injuries after being pushed to the ground by Buffalo police was not only faking it, but "could be" ANTIFA member, without citing evidence.
And to think that a couple of days ago his advisers were floating a speech to unite and heal the country:

Reminds me of how Barry said the police had acted racistly against his professor buddy BEFORE he knew what the hell he was talking about.... they should really learn to say nothing until they know the facts.

If you are speaking about the guy who was harassed for trying to get into his own home, that was racism.

He was briefly detained and questioned. Personally if the police were called because someone was entering my home through the window instead of the door I would want that person briefly detained and questioned. Even if that person were me.

Gates didn't climb through a window.

Factually correct, he was just seen trying to force his front door open and the cops were called to investigate. Either way I would hope the cops WOULD investigate if it were my home. Racism would have been "eh that's a black guy's house, don't investigate"

Investigating him wasn't the issue. Arresting him was. It was the cop's call to make and he could have arrested him or just walked away. Why arrest someone who proved they were in their own residence just because they became belligerent for having to prove they were rightfully in their own residence? There was no reason to arrest him as evidenced by the charges being dropped.

And that is why , for example, more black teens are arrested for marijuana posession than whites. Or ultimately it is how people end up dead over shit light a stupid arrest for selling cigarettes without a license.

Don't fight with the fucking police. Don't be a belligerent asshole. No shit if you piss a cop off and then they have a choice on whether to cite you or arrest you they are going to get their revenge by arresting you. How dumb do you have to be to not understand that point?

I've been stopped for triple digit speeding and walked away with a warning. Why ? Because I wasn't an asshole about it, I did something wrong. I just took my medicine, I wasn't a dick to the cop , no reason to end up tased or dead over a speeding ticket.

Are you saying a Harvard Professor wasn't smart enough to understand this?

I'm saying some people don't respect the police. That's not a reason to be arrested or abused by them.

I don't disagree

What I am saying, is that if you are an asshole to someone who has the power to arrest you for crimes you have committed, you're stupid.

OR you just believe you're above the law.

Does anyone believe a Harvard professor is stupid?

Nope, this guy thought "I know the President of the US, so I'm above the law" and was an asshole to the cop who then arrested him for the crime he DID commit.

Do YOU believe that that type of behavior helps anyone? Isn't it more likely that this cop walked away from that whole incident more determined than ever to arrest blacks who broke the law? Of course it is.

Respect goes both ways.

He committed no crime. That isn't going to stop you though is it?

No, but they aren't fooling anyone else and probably not themselves. It will be interesting when Trump restarts his rallies. What's he going to rant about? Knocking over 75 year old men and putting them in a hospital? Tear gassing priests? Suburban moms have no reason to be less pissed off over his messing with their kids healthcare and DeVos and education. The gop got their asses handed to them in 2016 over that. Immigration?

Trump's defined himself.

Odds are he rants about putting Hillary in prison.

 

[Mr Natural]

Looks like George Soros aka Kaiser Soze hired himself a stunt man.

Very clever!

 

[HereinVirginia]

Lord almighty why can't this guy just shut up?
His running of the mouth is hurting him now for sure.

I voted for Trump and still support most of his agenda. However, I must say this as a realist. He is narcissistic and the past few weeks, he is killing his chances by using twitter to talk about a dead intern or about a setup in Buffalo. I don’t care about either incident and what is was or wasn’t.
Mr. President, it looks bad when dems are kneeling in African garb, pandering if you ask me, and you are picking on a 75 year old. Optics matter, they play their part.

After Mr. Floyd’s services are over, you must address the nation. Don’t repeat yourself 20 times, don’t make it about you, make it about us-America. If you fall flat with that, you will not have a second term. Unless it’s too late.

 

[bendog]

So? He has the right to do that. It's called freedom of speech.

Not so

the cops have a right to do their job without verbal abuse from a conceited old black professor

He got off lighter than this angry black woman

The cops assaulted a citizen. Maybe they had grounds to arrest him. But they used force to injure him, not arrest him, and he didn't pose any possible threat to the cops. And that's what the protests are about. Getting rid of cops who do that shit.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I read somewhere where Buffalo's Mayor stated he was a long-time "activist" and had been asked to stay out of the area,

And that changes what?...… EXACTLY?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

white lives don't matter anyway lol
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No one is saying that. What we are saying is the black lives matter needs to be articulated because, all too often cops and others act as if they don't matter

 

[meaner gene]

If someone came up to me all of a sudden and tried to touch me; I would take it as a threat and bash the MFs head in.

Old hippie with nothing to show for in life. He learned a lesson.

But you're not a cop, who swore to "protect and serve"

I'm sure you wouldn't run into a burning building either.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I read somewhere where Buffalo's Mayor stated he was a long-time "activist" and had been asked to stay out of the area,

What does that have to do with anything?

trump got his stupid conspiracy lie from russian operatives off oann.

Now even conservatives are disgusted with him. One of them replied with a simple plead. "Just Stop."

You and those like you keep defending the indefensible. Which is why you use the stupid garbage you used above.

No one should be shoved to the cement ground, causing them to end up in an intensive care unit in serious condition.

Being politically active is no excuse to assault someone causing them to end up in an intensive care unit in serious condition.

It's just like when a normal person is told "I can't breathe" that normal person immediately stops doing whatever it is that's causing the other person to not be able to breathe. It's as simple as that.

What is so hard about that for you to understand?

If you don't want to stick with the honest facts of this case that's fine but you're just making a fool of yourself.

I notice not one word about my question. Why is that? Are you too much of a coward to admit that you wouldn't like a cop to have done that to anyone at the anti shutdown protests and what that cop did was not just wrong but also criminal? Are you too much of a coward to say you wouldn't like it if trump sent out a conspiracy lie he got from some russian operative about someone who was at the anti shutdown protests and injured that way by the cops?

Grow a spine.

Word up Dana! Word up! You go girl!!

 

[meaner gene]

white lives don't matter anyway lol
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No one is saying that. What we are saying is the black lives matter needs to be articulated because, all too often cops and others act as if they don't matter

I wanna see people start to protest for the 75 year old guy in Buffalo. They can chant "white lives matter" just as much as black lives.

Martin Gugino should be as well known as George Floyd.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I read somewhere where Buffalo's Mayor stated he was a long-time "activist" and had been asked to stay out of the area,

And that changes what?...… EXACTLY?

Obviously, had he taken the Mayor's advice, he wouldn't have got knocked on his ass.

 

[pknopp]

I read somewhere where Buffalo's Mayor stated he was a long-time "activist" and had been asked to stay out of the area,

And that changes what?...… EXACTLY?

Obviously, had he taken the Mayor's advice, he wouldn't have got knocked on his ass.

What happened to him was bad especially at his age but probably not as bad as a cop getting arrested and put in jail.

 

[Picaro]

The creepy old faggot was deliberately blocking officers and pawing their shirts with his creepy claws. He wanted to get shoved, and the officers obliged. Go ahead make a martyr out of the gimp; so far all your 'martyrs' have provided in lots of laughs and 'good riddances'. You already glorified a piece of shit who beat and held a gun on a pregnant black woman, so it's not like you scum have principles. WE can learn his real history to go along with laughing at how stupid the left wing clown car occupants are yet again.