Trump campaign DID collude with Russia

[JimH52]

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, Perjury. What has Trump lied under oath about? All politicians lie, its what they do best. Remember "if you like your plan you can keep it" "the average family will save $2500 per year" "I never sent classified data on my personal server" "I did not have sex with that woman".

Two posts in a row with Hillary Hillary Hillary. One more time. She's not the President. She's not even a Senator. Get over her and address the current liar in chief. You can't help yourself can you?

When the heat gets too much on trump....They pull the Hillary card. It is old and no one cares!

trump is an illegitimate president.

beating Hillary makes him illegitimate? can you explain further?

He was chosen and aided by a foreign adversary in order to remove the US as the free world leader. He is doing Putin's bidding.

are you really that stupid? Putin had everything he needed to blackmail Hillary into doing exactly what he wanted. He has nothing on Trump. Do you ever think before typing bullshit?

Mueller will find out why Putin and trump are married...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

No, you are misrepresenting the facts. the intelligence community clearly said that, though the Russians did foment chaos and division on both sides of the aisle, they clearly targeted their effort to helping Trump win. Period. that is a fact, and you need to come to terms with it.

I am still waiting for one of you lefties to tell us exactly what the Russians did, which votes were affected, how many were affected, in what states, and how they did it.

Talking to a person from a foreign country is not collusion and is not a crime. the Mueller witch hunt has found nothing, except actual collusion by the Hillary campaign in paying for a dossier of lies and then the Obama admin using it fraudulently at the FISA court to get warrants to spy on political enemies during the campaign.

LOL

You hand a note to a bank teller demanding money but then you flee because you notice a cop -- according to your idiocy, no crime was committed because the bank robber didn't benefit from the crime.

OK, once again, how exactly did Trump benefit from the Russians posting crap on facebook?

before you try to answer, remember that the Hillary campaign did exactly the same thing but spent millions more on it.

OK, once again, how exactly did Trump benefit from the Russians posting crap on facebook?

He's president, fool.

Listen to his more “LARGER POINT” that President Obama was trying to make and wanted to ensure Trump and the American people of. Then look at the article headline below.

Obama White House Knew of Russian Election Hacking, but Delayed Telling

Why do you believe President Obama responded as he did on the White House lawn?

Because in all intensive purposes everyone, (I mean the media was SOLD on this with all their polling numbers) they honestly believed Hillary would win and no one would be the wiser. If there was another Clinton in the White House, would we EVER know anything about Russia?

Then Hillary lost. You can end it right there, because all these theories and conspiracies are going to hit IMMEDIATELY. Suddenly things didn’t go as planned, the American people didn’t elect a woman. Wait a minute, the Russians were behind this! Even while Hillary contends it was Comey’s fault with the talk of those damn emails again. Today she says “No, It’s the women! Yes they were not strong enough. Listening to their white male husbands, boss, sons, because we all know white males are all republican. See you don’t want to elect her!!! She is a criminal!” - Hillary Clinton’s own words.

What IS rather evident in all this is everyone’s hatred for Trump. Regardless of the facts they want to impeach him, just like Maxine Waters. “Impeach 45!!! Impeach 45!! “

Truth hurts. However there is plenty of evidence out there from the DNC and liberal progressives. All they need to do is drum up a little evidence...

Shall we continue?

Continue what? Your rambling?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Have any of you nutjobs established yet that:
A). There is nothing criminal about collusion? Every administration does it.
B). It's not as if Hillary didn't seek dirt on Trump?
C). What makes it a crime is when money changes hands and so far that only occurred AFAIK when the DNC hired Steele.

That is true. But there is Obstruction of Justice, Money laundering, and other federal crimes
Odd how cons always bring up a dem. But you missed an important point, me boy. Money changed hands when the Republican national committee first hired Steele. You seem to simply ignore the fact that the dossier was started and initial work on it was done for repubs.

There was more links and proof with Benghazi and Lois Lerner investigations. What was the outcome?

Accusations are not poof, me poor con. Benghazi was investigated over and over and over. So, no crimes were made, and no charges resulted. Same with Lois Lerner. Sorry you missed it. So, you need to find what the difference is between investigations and charges, me poor ignorant con. Both were investigated, And in both cases no charges were brought. Get your facts straight.

As long as Whiterwater investigation took....nothing....Clinton was impeached over lying about sex....the orange one's fate may be for a similar lie.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, Perjury. What has Trump lied under oath about? All politicians lie, its what they do best. Remember "if you like your plan you can keep it" "the average family will save $2500 per year" "I never sent classified data on my personal server" "I did not have sex with that woman".

Two posts in a row with Hillary Hillary Hillary. One more time. She's not the President. She's not even a Senator. Get over her and address the current liar in chief. You can't help yourself can you?

my post was about your hypocrisy and democrat lies, including Hillary's.

I asked you if Trump had lied under oath like bubba Clinton, has he? Has he violated national security laws regarding the handling and transmission of classified data, Hillary did.

the previous poster said that Clinton was impeached over sex. That is a lie, he was impeached for perjury, lying under oath.

Bill was impeached for lying under oath and obstruction of justice. Liberals know that they just like to pretend it was about sex. Bill’s and Hill’s opponents could care less about their arrangement. Democrats definitely don’t mind the Clinton arrangement. With that, why did Bill feel compelled to lie about it under oath as well as conspire around it to obstruct Justice?

 

[easyt65]

You remember when Trump paid $12 million to a foreign spy who was working with the Russians for a debunked Russian Propaganda Report and then used it illegally in the 2016 election?

...oh wait, that was Hillary.


Sara Carter: Clinton Funded Dossier Was Used By FBI To Obtain FISA Warrants On Trump Campaign

Christopher Steele: The Real Foreign Influence in the 2016 Election?

 

[Markymark11]

Two posts in a row with Hillary Hillary Hillary. One more time. She's not the President. She's not even a Senator. Get over her and address the current liar in chief. You can't help yourself can you?

When the heat gets too much on trump....They pull the Hillary card. It is old and no one cares!

trump is an illegitimate president.

beating Hillary makes him illegitimate? can you explain further?

He was chosen and aided by a foreign adversary in order to remove the US as the free world leader. He is doing Putin's bidding.

are you really that stupid? Putin had everything he needed to blackmail Hillary into doing exactly what he wanted. He has nothing on Trump. Do you ever think before typing bullshit?

Mueller will find out why Putin and trump are married...

You need to loosen that Tin foil hat of yours.

 

[Valerie]

Dark Money

In the age of Citizens United and unlimited campaign donations, the NRA has emerged as an important "dark money" hub in Republican politics. Under its tax code designation, the NRA is a "social welfare" organization, largely exempt from disclosing its donors. To skirt disclosure, other big-dollar political players – including a SuperPAC linked to Karl Rove and a "chamber of commerce" controlled by the Koch Brothers – have routinely steered money into the NRA, confident that the gun group's spending will advance the GOP cause.

It is illegal, however, for foreign money to be used to influence U.S. elections. According to McClatchy, the heart of the FBI investigation is whether the NRA became a conduit for Russian cash, linked to the Kremlin, that bolstered Trump.



The Banker and "Godfather"

The key figure in the NRA/Russia investigation, McClatchy reports, is Alexander Torshin. Torshin is a longtime Putin ally who previously served as a top Russian senator. He is now a deputy governor of Russia's central bank, where his purview includes cracking down on the outflow of dirty money.

That's ironic, because Torshin has been linked to money laundering. Bloomberg reported on the conclusions of a 2013 investigation by Spanish authorities, writing that "Alexander Torshin instructed members of the Moscow-based Taganskaya crime syndicate how to launder ill-gotten gains through banks and properties in Spain."

As a result of this investigation, Spain convicted a Torshin underling – who reportedly called Torshin "boss" and "godfather" in recordings – and sentenced this man to nearly four years in prison for illegal transactions totaling more than $1.8 million. Torshin himself was not charged; a Spanish official told Bloomberg that Russia won't cooperate in cases against top politicians. Toshin has denied any wrongdoing.



NRA Connections

Torshin helped establish a Russian gun group called Right to Bear Arms, whose president calls Torshin "a great gun lover." Torshin is also a life member of the NRA – and forged ties to its leadership after attending the NRA's national convention in 2013. McClatchy reports that, in 2015, Toshin hosted "a high-level NRA delegation" during a week-long Moscow trip "that included meetings with influential Russian government and business figures." An attendee describes a debauched week: "They were killing us with vodka and the best Russian food," he told McClatchy. "The trip exceeded my expectations by logarithmic levels."


The Trump-Russia-NRA Connection: Here’s What You Need to Know




Trump Connections

At the May 2016 NRA convention in Louisville, Kentucky, where Donald Trump accepted the group's endorsement, Torshin shared a table at dinner with the candidate's son Donald Jr. According to Bloomberg, Torshin claimed to also have met now-president Trump at the convention, and that: "He keeps photos of the event on his computer tablet."

The 2016 NRA convention came off just as Russians were actively seeking contact with the Trump campaign – just weeks earlier, a Russian conduit told Trump staffer George Papadopoulos that Russia had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton, including thousands of her emails. – and hoping to set up a meeting with Trump and Putin.

According to the New York Times, Torshin tried to set up a dinner meeting in Louisville at the time of the NRA convention with then-candidate Trump – with the aim of connecting Trump with Putin. The request was conveyed through a Trump ally in the Christian conservative world, who reportedly sent the campaign an email with the subject line: "Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite." (Trump did not attend that dinner.)

Separately, an NRA member, Paul Erickson – who had been part of the 2015 NRA delegation to Moscow – wrote an email titled, "Kremlin Connection," to Trump campaign adviser Rick Dearborn, according to the New York Times. Erickson reportedly told the campaign that Russia was "quietly but actively seeking a dialogue with the U.S." and would be seeking "first contact" at the NRA convention.

Weeks later, in early June 2016, the trio of Donald Trump Jr., then-campaign manager Paul Manafort, and Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner took a meeting with a Putin-connected lawyer who had offered incriminating material on Hillary Clinton. Former Trump White House adviser Steve Bannon has dubbed that meeting "treasonous."



A Potential Game Changer

The allegation that Russia funneled money into the NRA – to directly support Trump's presidential bid – is staggering. Until now, we've understood the Russian support of Trump to have been oblique, delivered by a cadre of Facebook and Twitter trolls, and by the release of hacked DNC and Clinton campaign emails through Wikileaks.

The notion that the Kremlin was supporting Trump's presidential bid financially – and through an organization that holds itself up as a paragon of American patriotism – is almost unreal.




Sales of Trump properties suggestive of money-laundering: researcher

 

[easyt65]

You remember that time Trump and the Russians tried to hack US states' election systems / machines in 2016?

...oh wait, that was BARRY and his DHS.



Indiana joins Idaho in claiming DHS tried to hack their election systems

Homeland Security tied to attempted hack of Georgia's election database: Report

 

[Redfish]

Two posts in a row with Hillary Hillary Hillary. One more time. She's not the President. She's not even a Senator. Get over her and address the current liar in chief. You can't help yourself can you?

When the heat gets too much on trump....They pull the Hillary card. It is old and no one cares!

trump is an illegitimate president.

beating Hillary makes him illegitimate? can you explain further?

He was chosen and aided by a foreign adversary in order to remove the US as the free world leader. He is doing Putin's bidding.

are you really that stupid? Putin had everything he needed to blackmail Hillary into doing exactly what he wanted. He has nothing on Trump. Do you ever think before typing bullshit?

Mueller will find out why Putin and trump are married...

I know that you have wet dreams over this, but its not going to happen.

BTW, Trump got 306 EC votes, the media lied to you when they said he had no path to 270. They are lying to you now about Mueller.

 

[Valerie]

Russia probed at least 7 states’ voter systems before the 2016 election

Department of Homeland Security officials confirmed in a June 2017 Senate intelligence hearing that at least 21 states were targeted and hackers had probed their registration systems. Only Illinois election officials testified to a breach — “a malicious cyber-attack of unknown origin” against the Illinois voter registration system that allowed hackers to access 90,000 voter registration records.

Officials with the Department of Homeland Security didn’t elaborate on the other targeted states. Sam Liles, then-acting director of the Cyber Division of the DHS, testified that Russians were testing systems’ vulnerability — which he compared to “someone walking down the street to see if you are home.”

At the same time, Liles conceded that ”a small number of networks were exploited — they made it through the door.” Then, as now, intelligence officials say none of the breaches affected the 2016 vote.

Report: Russia probed at least 7 states’ voter systems before the 2016 election


Why aren't Western sanctions stopping Putin?

"Facing international condemnation and new punitive measures over disrupting Western democracies and suspected of ordering the murder of a defector living in the U.K., Putin nonetheless coasted to a fourth presidential term, earning a congratulatory phone call and an offer of a summit meeting from President Trump."

 

[Markymark11]

I highly doubt Obama would have prevented being impeached if this much time was spent on digging up his dirt.

 

[easyt65]

Remember that time it was revealed Trump's campaign manager had taken THOUSANDS of UN-REPORTED stock from the Russians, that his company was working for the Russians, and that 1/3rd of his company's board of Directors were prominent Russians who had direct links to the Kremlin and Putin himself?

...oh wait, that was HILLARY's campaign manger, John Podesta.

Oops: The New York Times Accidentally Exposed 'The Hillary Clinton-Russia Nexus'! | Stock News & Stock Market Analysis - IBD

No One Mentions That The Russian Trail Leads To Democratic Lobbyists

 

[easyt65]

Russia probed at least 7 states’ voter systems before the 2016 election

Department of Homeland Security officials confirmed in a June 2017 Senate intelligence hearing that at least 21 states were targeted and hackers had probed their registration systems. Only Illinois election officials testified to a breach — “a malicious cyber-attack of unknown origin” against the Illinois voter registration system that allowed hackers to access 90,000 voter registration records.

Officials with the Department of Homeland Security didn’t elaborate on the other targeted states. Sam Liles, then-acting director of the Cyber Division of the DHS, testified that Russians were testing systems’ vulnerability — which he compared to “someone walking down the street to see if you are home.”

At the same time, Liles conceded that ”a small number of networks were exploited — they made it through the door.” Then, as now, intelligence officials say none of the breaches affected the 2016 vote.

Report: Russia probed at least 7 states’ voter systems before the 2016 election


Why aren't Western sanctions stopping Putin?

"Facing international condemnation and new punitive measures over disrupting Western democracies and suspected of ordering the murder of a defector living in the U.K., Putin nonetheless coasted to a fourth presidential term, earning a congratulatory phone call and an offer of a summit meeting from President Trump."

Thanks for showing Obama and the Russians worked together to attempt to hack US states' election devices / systems......

Has Mueller been made aware of this? (Not that he would care....)

 

[easyt65]

Remember that time Trump thought he was off mike and told Putin's puppet Medvedev to pass on to Putin that after his re-election he would be more flexible and willing to cooperate more?

...oh wait, that was OBAMA

 

[easyt65]

Remember that time when Trump presented a plastic 'Reset' prop to a Russian ambassador, and the plague on the prop moronically said 'Overcharge' in Russian instead of 'Reset'?

...oh wait, that was HILLARY.

 

[easyt65]

Remember that time Trump 'paid $12 million for a FISA warrant' to spy on his political enemies during a US election?

....Oh wait, that was Hillary.


Mark Levin: "Hillary Clinton Paid For A Warrant," FBI Colluded With Russians Wittingly or Unwittingly

 

[easyt65]

The bitter truth of all of this Russian BS is THIS:

‘Russian collusion’ is a smokescreen to hide Hillary’s crimes - The Nation

....and the fact that Hillary lost the election instead of winning in a 'landslide' and became a 2-Time Loser.

 

[Valerie]

Remember that time Trump thought he was off mike and told Putin's puppet Medvedev to pass on to Putin that after his re-election he would be more flexible and willing to cooperate more?

...oh wait, that was OBAMA

yes i do remember, and in FACT, i expressed concern about it on this very forum at the time, too...

YET it has been proven that that administration IN FACT continued to support warranted FBI surveillance of russians...

and that's the very same warranted FBI surveillance which trumptards now weep over being caught in the middle of!

...and the very same surveillance that trumptards ridiculously claim was somehow a conspiracy against donny-liddle-hands.

get a clue, trumptards... maybe see if you can find a 4th grader explain it to you.

 

[jillian]

Russia probed at least 7 states’ voter systems before the 2016 election

Department of Homeland Security officials confirmed in a June 2017 Senate intelligence hearing that at least 21 states were targeted and hackers had probed their registration systems. Only Illinois election officials testified to a breach — “a malicious cyber-attack of unknown origin” against the Illinois voter registration system that allowed hackers to access 90,000 voter registration records.

Officials with the Department of Homeland Security didn’t elaborate on the other targeted states. Sam Liles, then-acting director of the Cyber Division of the DHS, testified that Russians were testing systems’ vulnerability — which he compared to “someone walking down the street to see if you are home.”

At the same time, Liles conceded that ”a small number of networks were exploited — they made it through the door.” Then, as now, intelligence officials say none of the breaches affected the 2016 vote.

Report: Russia probed at least 7 states’ voter systems before the 2016 election


Why aren't Western sanctions stopping Putin?

"Facing international condemnation and new punitive measures over disrupting Western democracies and suspected of ordering the murder of a defector living in the U.K., Putin nonetheless coasted to a fourth presidential term, earning a congratulatory phone call and an offer of a summit meeting from President Trump."

Thanks for showing Obama and the Russians worked together to attempt to hack US states' election devices / systems......

Has Mueller been made aware of this? (Not that he would care....)

keep dreaming, trumptard.

he has to meet his daily quota of garbage

 

[easyt65]

Remember that time Trump thought he was off mike and told Putin's puppet Medvedev to pass on to Putin that after his re-election he would be more flexible and willing to cooperate more?

...oh wait, that was OBAMA

yes i do remember, and in FACT, i expressed concern about it on this very forum at the time, too...

YET it has been proven that that administration IN FACT continued to support warranted FBI surveillance of russians...

and that's the very same warranted FBI surveillance which trumptards now weep over being caught in the middle of!

...and the very same surveillance that trumptards ridiculously claim was somehow a conspiracy against donny-liddle-hands.

get a clue, trumptards... maybe see if you can find a 4th grader explain it to you.

The same administration that hid Russian crimes and helped them acquire Uranium One...

The same administration that knew about Russian interference and chose to do nothing about it...

The same administration that illegally spied on US citizens, reporters, the media, US Senators, and even USSC Justices....

The same administration that intentionally used a debunked report from a foreign spy working with Russians to illegally obtain warrants to spy on the political opposition during a US Presidential election...

Uh-huh........

 

[Valerie]

^ your post is full of fake news...

you trumptard frauds need to make up your minds.

did the previous administration not do enough to protect the country from russia or did they over step their bounds with warranted surveillance of russian contacts ...?... which wooooopsy daisy, trumptards got caught *red-handed* in the middle of...which btw by definition is COLLUSION.