flacaltenn
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There's small fragments of either side that NEITHER side "has to own"... That's the fallacy here.. You can't stop supremacists from "endorsing you", but you CAN disavow them if KNOW about them or if they have any influence on others... Doubt the drunken yahoos in your OP have much pull or persuasive power...
It's like when 2 or 3 white supremacist leaders ENDORSED OBAMA in 2008.. Think Esquire ran those interviews.. Or when anti-semites endorse libertarians because they confuse being against "foreign aid" with being "anti-jew or anti israel"...
You and I know the fringes don't REPRESENT the 2 brand name parties. But the "fringes" on the left now have legitimate REPRESENTATION in Congress in the form of "the squad" and 12 candidates for Prez who raised their hands in support for "open borders"...
Most of that being "political theater" to play to their every shrinking and progressive shifting base..
The side effects of division are upon all of us now.. And social media does NOTHING to get honesty out of EITHER side... And the main stream media constantly AMPLIFIES those divisions.. What do you think independents can DO about any of that? Other than disown provocation like your example here in the NAME of politics??
EDIT -- Esquire interviews with heads of "haters" was 2012.. Good read for those who stereotype race and politics...
Why White Supremacists Support Barack Obama
After James von Brunn's crime at the Holocaust Museum, re-introduce yourself to the five hate-mongers we met during the campaign.
www.esquire.com
If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John McCain over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but the McCain and Obama camps probably haven't factored in the following fact: In an informal Esquire survey, three out of four white supremacists prefer Obama, while McCain is the clear favorite among black nationalists. (Sure, our methodology suffered from an extraordinarily low sample size--limited to four white supremacists and one black nationalist--but just because it wouldn't fly with Gallup doesn't mean there ain't a kernel of truth in there.) This is just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a 46-year-old black man and a 71-year-old white man.
Tom Metzger
Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance
Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists
Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism
Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared on the episode of Geraldo Rivera's show in 1988 when Rivera's nose was broken in a brawl.
"The corporations are running things now, so it's not going to make much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much worse. He's a warmonger. He's a scary, scary person--more dangerous than Bush. Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of My Father, is a racist and I have no problem with black racists. I've got the quote right here: 'I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's white race.' The problem with Obama is he's being dishonest about his racial views. I'd respect him if he'd just come out and say, 'Yeah, I'm a black racist.' I don't hate black people. I just think it's in the best interest of the races to be separated as much as possible. See, I'm a leftist. I'm not a rightist. I hate the transnational corporations far more than any black person."
Rocky Suhayda
Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party
Likes: Hitler, white people
Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations
Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: "If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere."
"White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who happens to have a pale face. Personally I'd prefer the negro. National Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who supports the invasion of America by illegals--basically a continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist religion, is married to a black women--when usually negroes who have 'made it' immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize--that's the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it's good for all racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It'd be poetic justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern Sodom and Gomorrah."
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