Trump has been EXONERATED of all charges.

[IM2]

I'd like to know what we lost and you won. Because it's no win for us to live in a Mike Pence presidency. So what the fuck did you guys win? None of you get to tell the courts you won't obey a subpoena. None of you get to tell your friends not to testify if they see you commit a crime and are requested by the courts. What did you win, and what did we lose?

This he pissed of the libs so we won shit is childish. What you have won, is the chance to allow the president to do whatever he pleases, whenever he pleases and to whoever he pleases. Now this is not constitutional, but you guys swear you are all constitutional experts. You don't get to do whatever you want, to whoever you want, whenever you want. So what did you win and what did we lose?

We all lost in this situation and you republicans are too stump stupid to see it. Suckers.

You'll find out what you lost on November 8th, 2020

Trump will be officially removed on 1-20-2021.

Jeebus. Did you find the Delorean? You're gonna make bank on that shit. Just give me the winner of the next Superbowl and I'll be your friend forever (The one in 2021 not 2001 - that won't work for me)

I corrected my typo little boy. Trump is gone next year.

 

[miketx]

 

[miketx]

I'd like to know what we lost and you won. Because it's no win for us to live in a Mike Pence presidency. So what the fuck did you guys win? None of you get to tell the courts you won't obey a subpoena. None of you get to tell your friends not to testify if they see you commit a crime and are requested by the courts. What did you win, and what did we lose?

This he pissed of the libs so we won shit is childish. What you have won, is the chance to allow the president to do whatever he pleases, whenever he pleases and to whoever he pleases. Now this is not constitutional, but you guys swear you are all constitutional experts. You don't get to do whatever you want, to whoever you want, whenever you want. So what did you win and what did we lose?

We all lost in this situation and you republicans are too stump stupid to see it. Suckers.

You'll find out what you lost on November 8th, 2020

Trump will be officially removed on 1-20-2021.

Jeebus. Did you find the Delorean? You're gonna make bank on that shit. Just give me the winner of the next Superbowl and I'll be your friend forever (The one in 2021 not 2001 - that won't work for me)

I corrected my typo little boy. Trump is gone next year.

Where's he going? The west wing?

 

[Ken Mac]

We did not hear from anyone directly involved with the president


Perhaps next time YOUR House Clowns won't try to overturn an election on hearsay and feelings, Sport.

Perhaps next time the president will honor legal subpoenas, Sport.

Except...

They weren't legal. Dems should have taken the to the courts for them to decide. But if you read the rules, subpoena power has to be granted to a committee in congress by a full House vote and Nancy just skipped that step.

Soooooo

Yur wrong.

They were legal.

Eastlan v. United States Servicemen's Fund

Issuance of subpoenas such as the one in question is a legitimate use by Congress of its power to investigate, and the subpoena power may be exercised by a committee acting, as here, on behalf of one of the Houses.

Faun, Please keep up. My point was that Trump's counsel was challenging the validity. It is up to the court to decide. Somewhere in that document (which I've read) the full committee has to sign off on the subpoenas and only the three chairpersons signed off on it. That makes it invalid. The dems needed to challenge it and the didn't cuz they wanted to hurry up and get him out before the election. After wouldn't do them any good. Don't be fooled by the BS.

 

[Nostra]

Yes, in the trial. Over 100 video clips of the WITNESSES' TESTIMONY IN THE HOUSE was played during the trial.

About 28,000 documents were entered into the record, liar.

That lie won't fly. Get a new one.

Aww, you poor deranged TDSer, videos can't questioned.

First and only president ever to not have witnesses called in an impeachment trial.

More lies.

ZERO new witnesses were called during the Clinton trial. They brought in 3 who had already testified in the House to clarify that testimony. That was done behind closed doors, and only parts were made public.

That lie won't fly. Get a new one.

I didn't say, "new."

Sadly, your TDS affects your ability to comprehend.

List all the witnesses who testified during the Clinton trial...

GO!

LOLOL

You're such a dumbfuck. You said there were 3. If you want their names... Google them yourself.

yeah, 3 that had already provided testimony to the House. They did so behind closed doors to clarify that testimony, and only portions were released.

That's not what YOUR House Clowns were begging for. They wanted the Senate to subpoena new witnesses and start the investigation all over. That isn't the job of the Senate, Fuckwit.

YOUR House Clowns showed up to trial without a case, and got their asses handed to them.

 

[Nostra]

He was exonerated, Sport.

Deal with it. You lost, again.

No, he was not exonerated, he was acquitted.... just a technical difference between finding a person not guilty, vs them being innocent.

Two different meanings.... acquitted is a finding that the prosecution did not have enough evidence to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt of their guilt...

An exoneration is when evidence is presented that PROVES innocence...

As example, if DNA evidence was found that completely exonerated a person of a crime, like DNA evidence that shows a man accused of raping a victim, could not have been the rapist etc...

He was innocent until proven guilty. He was found Not guilty therefore - innocent. Exonerated.

This isn't a court of law..... and there are no statutory crimes being charged and tried with punishment.

Exonerated means Proven innocent.....NOT innocent beyond a reasonable doubt....

example: a man was charged, found guilty, and then evidence like DNA that came forward, PROVED without any doubt, that the person was INNOCENT, and a Judge exonerates them, wipes his record clean to where the being charged, indicted and trial is cleared from his record, he was EXONERATED.

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

INNOCENT until proven guilty. He was not proven guilty, he was EXONERATED.


Innocent.

You lose, Loser. Deal with it.

 

[Ken Mac]

I'd like to know what we lost and you won. Because it's no win for us to live in a Mike Pence presidency. So what the fuck did you guys win? None of you get to tell the courts you won't obey a subpoena. None of you get to tell your friends not to testify if they see you commit a crime and are requested by the courts. What did you win, and what did we lose?

This he pissed of the libs so we won shit is childish. What you have won, is the chance to allow the president to do whatever he pleases, whenever he pleases and to whoever he pleases. Now this is not constitutional, but you guys swear you are all constitutional experts. You don't get to do whatever you want, to whoever you want, whenever you want. So what did you win and what did we lose?

We all lost in this situation and you republicans are too stump stupid to see it. Suckers.

You'll find out what you lost on November 8th, 2020

Trump will be officially removed on 1-20-2021.

Jeebus. Did you find the Delorean? You're gonna make bank on that shit. Just give me the winner of the next Superbowl and I'll be your friend forever (The one in 2021 not 2001 - that won't work for me)

I corrected my typo little boy. Trump is gone next year.

Regressing to name calling. You're losing the argument. Please keep ad hominem attacks out of the equation. It will help you.

 

[Faun]

No, he was not exonerated, he was acquitted.... just a technical difference between finding a person not guilty, vs them being innocent.

Two different meanings.... acquitted is a finding that the prosecution did not have enough evidence to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt of their guilt...

An exoneration is when evidence is presented that PROVES innocence...

As example, if DNA evidence was found that completely exonerated a person of a crime, like DNA evidence that shows a man accused of raping a victim, could not have been the rapist etc...

He was innocent until proven guilty. He was found Not guilty therefore - innocent. Exonerated.

This isn't a court of law..... and there are no statutory crimes being charged and tried with punishment.

Exonerated means Proven innocent.....NOT innocent beyond a reasonable doubt....

example: a man was charged, found guilty, and then evidence like DNA that came forward, PROVED without any doubt, that the person was INNOCENT, and a Judge exonerates them, wipes his record clean to where the being charged, indicted and trial is cleared from his record, he was EXONERATED.

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

And while be charged and taken to trial you are assumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore if not proven guilty, your back to being innocent. That's how our system works. Once found not guilty - you can only revert to innocent.

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

 

[ChemEngineer]

No one is proved innocent, f******* moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

Your vulgar filth and hatefulness have certainly convinced me, Faun.
I think you arrogant, condescending Leftists call yourselves "rational" and "intelligent." Your post certainly demonstrates such conduct. Why college professors use such language in their classrooms across the country, don't they? It's very convincing and powerful... to other Leftists, I mean. Not to anyone of wisdom.

"Anger comes from the bosom of a fool." - The Holy Bible

You are profanely angry and belong on my Ignore List.

ciao brutto

 

[Faun]

No, he was not exonerated, he was acquitted.... just a technical difference between finding a person not guilty, vs them being innocent.

Two different meanings.... acquitted is a finding that the prosecution did not have enough evidence to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt of their guilt...

An exoneration is when evidence is presented that PROVES innocence...

As example, if DNA evidence was found that completely exonerated a person of a crime, like DNA evidence that shows a man accused of raping a victim, could not have been the rapist etc...

He was innocent until proven guilty. He was found Not guilty therefore - innocent. Exonerated.

This isn't a court of law..... and there are no statutory crimes being charged and tried with punishment.

Exonerated means Proven innocent.....NOT innocent beyond a reasonable doubt....

example: a man was charged, found guilty, and then evidence like DNA that came forward, PROVED without any doubt, that the person was INNOCENT, and a Judge exonerates them, wipes his record clean to where the being charged, indicted and trial is cleared from his record, he was EXONERATED.

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

INNOCENT until proven guilty. He was not proven guilty, he was EXONERATED.


Innocent.

You lose, Loser. Deal with it.

...applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

 

[Nostra]

Trump was charged with what the Dems felt were impeachable offenses but the court said No.
The only thing Trump ever was and always will be was “charged”

The court didn't have all the information necessary to make a decision. 70 percent of the people wanted witnesses. This trial was a sham. trump has been impeached. He will forever be impeached. What he was not was convicted.

If the court lacked information it was because the prosecution failed to provide it.
Neither the court nor the defense provides it for the nor allows more time to see if something can fall in their lap

No, it was because trump blocked witnesses and documents. The motherfuckers is guilty as sure as my name here is IM2. We all know it. You know it. The only reason you are using this infantile argument is that he has an R beside his name.

The House had testimony from 13 of their witnesses, and submitted thousands of documents. They got witnesses.

They showed up with what they claimed was an "overwhelming" case, and immediately cried that the Senate needed to do the job of the House by starting another investigation. That isn't the Senate's job, Dopey. The Senate votes on the case the House brings.

The trial wasn't a sham, they used the same rules as they used in the Clinton trial. The only part that was a sham was the bullshit case YOUR House Clowns showed up with.

You lost. Deal with it, Loser.

EXONERATED FOREVER!

The trial was a sham. Clinton had witnesses. Clinton di8d not bl0ock all information. So just face the fact that you will be getting this in your face until trumps ass is gone. I don't care when it is, the mother fucker is guilty, he scammed the system with McConnell and the senate trial was a sham with an outcome that was determined before the house was done with its inquiry. I didn't lose anything. And you didn't win anything.

Your house had 18 witnesses, presented testimony of 13 of them at trail.

Your lie won't fly. Get a new one, liar.

INNOCENT!

 

[JustAGuy1]

I'd like to know what we lost and you won. Because it's no win for us to live in a Mike Pence presidency. So what the fuck did you guys win? None of you get to tell the courts you won't obey a subpoena. None of you get to tell your friends not to testify if they see you commit a crime and are requested by the courts. What did you win, and what did we lose?

This he pissed of the libs so we won shit is childish. What you have won, is the chance to allow the president to do whatever he pleases, whenever he pleases and to whoever he pleases. Now this is not constitutional, but you guys swear you are all constitutional experts. You don't get to do whatever you want, to whoever you want, whenever you want. So what did you win and what did we lose?

We all lost in this situation and you republicans are too stump stupid to see it. Suckers.

You'll find out what you lost on November 8th, 2020

Trump will be officially removed on 1-20-2001.

And if he isn't you'll kill yourself.

No, but I will watch our country crumble and die because we were stupid enough to give this fool a second term.

Dude get some MEDS. You are like a hysterical child

 

[Ken Mac]

He was innocent until proven guilty. He was found Not guilty therefore - innocent. Exonerated.

This isn't a court of law..... and there are no statutory crimes being charged and tried with punishment.

Exonerated means Proven innocent.....NOT innocent beyond a reasonable doubt....

example: a man was charged, found guilty, and then evidence like DNA that came forward, PROVED without any doubt, that the person was INNOCENT, and a Judge exonerates them, wipes his record clean to where the being charged, indicted and trial is cleared from his record, he was EXONERATED.

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

And while be charged and taken to trial you are assumed to be innocent unless proven guilty. Therefore if not proven guilty, your back to being innocent. That's how our system works. Once found not guilty - you can only revert to innocent.

LOLOL

a) you do not revert to innocent. You remain not guilty.

b) presumption of innocence only applies to legal cases, which the Senate trial was not.

c) Impeached Trump could still face legal charges once he's out of office.

d) Impeached Trump is still Impeached remains so.

Exonerated forever.

 

[Nostra]

He was innocent until proven guilty. He was found Not guilty therefore - innocent. Exonerated.

This isn't a court of law..... and there are no statutory crimes being charged and tried with punishment.

Exonerated means Proven innocent.....NOT innocent beyond a reasonable doubt....

example: a man was charged, found guilty, and then evidence like DNA that came forward, PROVED without any doubt, that the person was INNOCENT, and a Judge exonerates them, wipes his record clean to where the being charged, indicted and trial is cleared from his record, he was EXONERATED.

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

INNOCENT until proven guilty. He was not proven guilty, he was EXONERATED.


Innocent.

You lose, Loser. Deal with it.

...applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

Yeah............yeah..............we know you single digit IQ morons think Trump was guilty until he proved his innocence, but that isn't how our system works. You are innocent until proven guilty in any venue, Fuckwit.

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

Not guilty ≠ innocent.

Exonerated, Simpleton.

Deal with it. You lost.

LOL

According to you, OJ was exonerated.

See how stupid you sound?

Who?

OJ Simpson, ya moron.

When was he President, Fuckwit?

No one ever said he was, dumbfuck. But using your twisted logic, if being found not guilty means one is innocent and exonerated, that means OJ is innocent and exonerated of murdering his wife and Goldman.

Are ya feeling stupid yet??

 

[BlindBoo]

Perhaps next time the president will honor legal subpoenas, Sport.

obama fast and furious subpoenas - Google Search


Cocksucker Obama tossed the subpoenas in her CLOSET, and YOU CHEERED when she did.....

Obama exerts Executive privilege over one set of documents and you use that as cover for Trumpybear's blanket refusal to for every single document the House investigator asked for.

Trumpublicans have set a dangerous precedent with that. Enjoy.

Not at all, the prescribed method was being followed but the Dems didn't want to go that way because it is time consuming. Oh well

The claim of executive blanket immunity is equal to no accountability. Do you want the next Democrat president to have no accountability?

You are lying again. They didn't make a claim of blanket executive immunity.

The subpoenas were challenged on the basis they were invalid due to the refusal of Nazi Pelousy to hold a vote to initiate impeachment proceedings.

That lie won't fly. Get a new one.

The Executive Branch has no standing in the process the House uses to initiate impeachment proceeding and the argument lacks merit. Witnesses can choose to plead the 5th and the Executive can claim privileged over specific answers and documents.

 

[Nostra]

Exonerated, Simpleton.

Deal with it. You lost.

LOL

According to you, OJ was exonerated.

See how stupid you sound?

Who?

OJ Simpson, ya moron.

When was he President, Fuckwit?

No one ever said he was, dumbfuck. But using your twisted logic, if being found not guilty means one is innocent and exonerated, that means OJ is innocent and exonerated of murdering his wife and Goldman.

Are ya feeling stupid yet??

So, NOW you want to say impeachment is the same as the justice system when just a few posts ago you claimed just the opposite.

Oops!

You are too easy to destroy, Puddinhead.

 

[Nostra]

obama fast and furious subpoenas - Google Search


Cocksucker Obama tossed the subpoenas in her CLOSET, and YOU CHEERED when she did.....

Obama exerts Executive privilege over one set of documents and you use that as cover for Trumpybear's blanket refusal to for every single document the House investigator asked for.

Trumpublicans have set a dangerous precedent with that. Enjoy.

Not at all, the prescribed method was being followed but the Dems didn't want to go that way because it is time consuming. Oh well

The claim of executive blanket immunity is equal to no accountability. Do you want the next Democrat president to have no accountability?

You are lying again. They didn't make a claim of blanket executive immunity.

The subpoenas were challenged on the basis they were invalid due to the refusal of Nazi Pelousy to hold a vote to initiate impeachment proceedings.

That lie won't fly. Get a new one.

The Executive Branch has no standing in the process the House uses to initiate impeachment proceeding and the argument lacks merit. Witnesses can choose to plead the 5th and the Executive can claim privileged over specific answers and documents.

Subpoenas must be valid. They were challenged as being invalid due to the fact Nazi Pelousy didn't hold the required vote to initiate impeachment proceedings prior to them being issued.

You really are thick.

 

[BlindBoo]

This isn't a court of law..... and there are no statutory crimes being charged and tried with punishment.

Exonerated means Proven innocent.....NOT innocent beyond a reasonable doubt....

example: a man was charged, found guilty, and then evidence like DNA that came forward, PROVED without any doubt, that the person was INNOCENT, and a Judge exonerates them, wipes his record clean to where the being charged, indicted and trial is cleared from his record, he was EXONERATED.

Proven innocent" is the standard of justice used in totalitarian dictatorship. Every time you try to use it, you only demonstrate that you're a goose stepping Stalinist. All you TDS morons want to pretend this is some kind of legal process, but then when it's pointed out how Dims have violated the principles of the legal process, they resort to bleating that it's not a legal process. Anyone who isn't a brain damaged TDS moron can see that you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.

No one is proved innocent, fucking moron. In a court of law, you may be found "not guilty." That doesn't mean you're innocent, let alone, exonerated. It means the prosecutor couldn't prove you're guilty under the law.

INNOCENT until proven guilty. He was not proven guilty, he was EXONERATED.


Innocent.

You lose, Loser. Deal with it.

...applies to the justice system, dumbfuck.

Yeah............yeah..............we know you single digit IQ morons think Trump was guilty until he proved his innocence, but that isn't how our system works. You are innocent until proven guilty in any venue, Fuckwit.

So Sec. Clinton is innocent of all charges leveled against her? No jury has ever found her guilty have they?

 

[Faun]

Perhaps next time the president will honor legal subpoenas, Sport.

Except...

They weren't legal. Dems should have taken the to the courts for them to decide. But if you read the rules, subpoena power has to be granted to a committee in congress by a full House vote and Nancy just skipped that step.

Soooooo

Yur wrong.

They were legal.

Eastlan v. United States Servicemen's Fund

Issuance of subpoenas such as the one in question is a legitimate use by Congress of its power to investigate, and the subpoena power may be exercised by a committee acting, as here, on behalf of one of the Houses.

Faun, Please keep up. My point was that Trump's counsel was challenging the validity. It is up to the court to decide. Somewhere in that document (which I've read) the full committee has to sign off on the subpoenas and only the three chairpersons signed off on it. That makes it invalid. The dems needed to challenge it and the didn't cuz they wanted to hurry up and get him out before the election. After wouldn't do them any good. Don't be fooled by the BS.

Please cite the court case Trump filed to fight the subpoenas issued during the House inquiry...